Takara-Tomy to Put Orange Cap On at Factory for Special US "Safe" MP-05 Megatron?

Well it will be a crying shame if that is the case.

Allow me to demonstrate

And just to clarify by "special US release" that does not mean a Hasbro release like 20th anniversary Prime. The distributor said that it would be the same MP-05 Japanese megatron but with a orange cap so it can go out to places Like HLJ.com for sale in the US.

Take it with salt though people.

Air Commander Starscream wrote:And just to clarify by "special US release" that does not mean a Hasbro release like 20th anniversary Prime. The distributor said that it would be the same MP-05 Japanese megatron but with a orange cap so it can go out to places Like HLJ.com for sale in the US.

Take it with salt though people.

Well put my friend. Yet I still can't help but feel alot of people will enter this discussion in page 7 and ask "OMFG! THEY ARE RELEASING THIS IN THE USA!!!"

Either way, I'm salting lunch with it right now.

Redimus wrote:Hopefully it'll be one of those: 'it has a cap which you shouldnt take off, no matter how much it spoils it, you shouldnt take it off by simply unscrewing it, no you shouldt, nudge nudge, wink wink'.

Like the "Do Not Remove" tags from Mattress's.

That's awfully thoughtful of them. It may be a crying shame, but paying a lot of money for a tf to be confiscated and destroyed is also a crying shame. Look on the bright side; paint it black!

Lord Crump wrote:That's awfully thoughtful of them. It may be a crying shame, but paying a lot of money for a tf to be confiscated and destroyed is also a crying shame. Look on the bright side; paint it black!

Thoughtful, or 'damn, this product is probably gonna sell more overseas than it will here, we better use their laws this time'.

That's what I was thinking Redimus. They probably recognize that the demand will be even higher over here, just like MP Starscream

I'm thinking I'll just buy MP-05 at Botcon. No fuss, no customs issues (others will have dealt with it already), no worry.

well i have two sides to this because i am in law enforcement i feel as a fan it sucks that there has to be a orange cap on 100 dollar megatron masterpiece it is totally going to ruin it but as a police officer i think this the only way we can have this "toy gun" imported in a society that we live in. we have arrested 14 year olds for having 357 magnums and just plain out regular guns so imagine if a kid pulls this out on you a stop how it would make u feel if u have to use deadly physical force i think in all as being in law enforcement this "toy gun" should not be imported at all, but as fan it is great reproduction and will be awesome to have but i do not want to have deal with this at work it would really suck!!!

Chops13 wrote:well i have two sides to this because i am in law enforcement i feel as a fan it sucks that there has to be a orange cap on 100 dollar megatron masterpiece it is totally going to ruin it but as a police officer i think this the only way we can have this "toy gun" imported in a society that we live in. we have arrested 14 year olds for having 357 magnums and just plain out regular guns so imagine if a kid pulls this out on you a stop how it would make u feel if u have to use deadly physical force i think in all as being in law enforcement this "toy gun" should not be imported at all, but as fan it is great reproduction and will be awesome to have but i do not want to have deal with this at work it would really suck!!!

With as many as will actually get to the US and the even fewer which might end up in the hands of children, I'd say it's more likely that the kid will have a real gun than MP-05 Megatron.

As for me, I need that MP-05 so I can have an even bigger gun against my head.

Stop looking for a punchline, there isn't one!

I am praying Fan to Fan makes it through customs!(~()()~!

unfortunately your right it is easier for kids to get a real gun bit what i am saying if that one kid gets a hold of this "toy gun" it is just one more stupid thing we can avoid from happening. there has to be an easier way to solve this situation then messing up a one hundred dollar toy !!

I don't care. It's still Megatron. And of course, it could be much...much worse.

omg its not g1 if they change one thing its not g1 thats how most of the g1 fans act. Well heres gow u fix the tip saw it off and then use touch up paint.

Either way, i'm still getting it! It's one of the best representations of Megs ever!! The tip can always be painted or like someone else suggested, simply cut off.

That pretty much flies in the face of all those people who always post stuff like "Takara's market is for Japan only, stoopid! To try and appeal to the U.S. market is treaspassing on Hasbro, stooooooopid!"

:rolleyes:

So Takara does think about potential worldwide sales. As in all of life, you do what ever you can to help yourself make a buck and a living.

I'm with Redimus. I hope it's one of those caps like the Classics Megatron had.

I got my crow bar ready!

I personally don't mind this. I have no intention of waving this in front of nobody because that is not my nature. Even if the cap is put by a third party I wouldn't mind either as I would have the toy opened anyway because if I shell out that much $$$ I MUST have the satisfaction of "playing" (i.e. transforming) it. Otherwise I would rather stare at pics on the PC.

But if this is going to be such a hassle, there should be an alternative, like a BinalTech-fashioned tank with plenty of details or a smaller but insanelly detailed released with plenty of stuff like must anime mecha kits. I will be conformed with everything that do NOT look like Live Megatron.

Hot_Rod wrote:So Takara does think about potential worldwide sales. As in all of life, you do what ever you can to help yourself make a buck and a living.

Ah... you are starting to understand Japanese business logic at its core.

Down_Shift wrote:Well it will be a crying shame if that is the case.

Allow me to demonstrate

I'm glad to be living in Japan.

If this turns out to be true, how will Takara determine which places get an orange cap? Will the retailers have a choice to choose? There are some Japanese retailers and Canadian retailers that sell to the U.S.

I understand the thinking of adding the orange cap to the barrel tip, as Im sure that there are people in the States who could confuse a huge, oversized hand pistol as the real deal.

Oh, man, I think Ebay is about to become my new best friend.

Another reason why I'm happy not to be American. I'll make sure my version is uncapped. You suck USA.

relax, just remove the stupid thing when you get it.

I did check with my import guy, and he told me he'd get me a clean one, I hope this doesn't screw it up

As long as the tip isn't glued on, why is everybody crying?
Take out the dremel and saw it off, if it doesn't just pop off.
It's not like Takara WANTS to put a cap on it, it's just another U.S. regulation. And I think we all can do for a little more of that. YEAH....GO AUTHORITY!!!! I don't know what I would do if I didn't have good ol' Uncle Sam tellin' me what was good for me.

DISCHARGE wrote:As long as the tip isn't glued on, why is everybody crying?
Take out the dremel and saw it off, if it doesn't just pop off.
It's not like Takara WANTS to put a cap on it, it's just another U.S. regulation. And I think we all can do for a little more of that. YEAH....GO AUTHORITY!!!! I don't know what I would do if I didn't have good ol' Uncle Sam tellin' me what was good for me.

my thoughts exactly!

I'm getting mine from Agesthreeandup.com. They've confirmed that they're not getting tips put on theirs.

What I'd like to know is this:

If it's being shipped in Bot mode, if the customs people aren't familiar with transformers, how are they going to know if the picture of the gun on the box which doesn't have an orange tip is different from the transformer in the box? It'd be kinda hard to see the orange tip without opening it anyway and looking at it.

covered by this part as set forth in ?1150.1

What does 1150.1 say? I'll bet debunks this whole thing.

Let's see

This part applies to toy, look-alike, and imitation firearms (“devices”) having the appearance, shape, and/or configuration of a firearm and produced or manufactured and entered into commerce on or after May 5, 1989, including devices modelled on real firearms manufactured, designed, and produced since 1898. This part does not apply to:

(a) Non-firing collector replica antique firearms, which look authentic and may be a scale model but are not intended as toys modelled on real firearms designed, manufactured, and produced prior to 1898;

(b) Traditional B-B, paint-ball, or pellet-firing air guns that expel a projectile through the force of compressed air, compressed gas or mechanical spring action, or any combination thereof, as described in American Society for Testing and Materials standard F 589–85, Standard Consumer Safety Specification for Non-Powder Guns, June 28, 1985. This incorporation by reference was approved by the Director of the Federal Register in accordance with 5 U.S.C. 552(a) and 1 CFR part 51. Copies may be obtained from the American Society for Testing and Materials, 1916 Race Street, Philadelphia, PA 19103. Copies may be inspected at the office of the Associate Director for Industry and Standards, National Institute for Standards and Technology, Gaithersburg, Maryland, or at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). For information on the availability of this material at NARA, call 202–741–6030, or go to: http://www.archives.gov/federal_registe ... ions.html; and

(c) Decorative, ornamental, and miniature objects having the appearance, shape and/or configuration of a firearm, including those intended to be displayed on a desk or worn on bracelets, necklaces, key chains, and so on, provided that the objects measure no more than thirty-eight (38) millimeters in height by seventy (70) millimeters in length, the length measurement excluding any gun stock length measurement.

CynicalFailure wrote:Either way, i'm still getting it! It's one of the best representations of Megs ever!! The tip can always be painted.......

Someone finally understands me!!! I've told you all that paint can do wonders. Either that or just get some adhesive
remover if they glue it on....& if they screw it on....well, God had man invent the screwdriver for a reason, didn't He?

kary wrote:Another reason why I'm happy not to be American. I'll make sure my version is uncapped. You suck USA.

Hey lets try and tone it down there cowboy. Those kind of comments are unnecesary.

Kronos wrote:If it's being shipped in Bot mode, if the customs people aren't familiar with transformers, how are they going to know if the picture of the gun on the box which doesn't have an orange tip is different from the transformer in the box? It'd be kinda hard to see the orange tip without opening it anyway and looking at it.

Because it STILL transforms into a real gun hence why toy gun laws apply. Also if a kid were to get shot and killed the company who sold it would be liable for damages because they did not put on the orange cap to corespond with US toy laws.

kary wrote:Another reason why I'm happy not to be American. I'll make sure my version is uncapped. You suck USA.

it is not like any american that wants mp megs is begging for an orange cap on it

its unfortunate esp for those dealers that said "will NOT have orange cap"

Oh, boo hoo. An orange cap on the end don't bother me, I expected it. I never really got all the whining about it, I mean so what. Better they put something on it that can be removed if you want than not and us never seeing it come here legally at all. It's a great toy, and I'll still get it, cap or not. It's a toy gun, oversized or not, so the laws gonna step in. It's really time to get past it, the law has been in place for years now, it's not like it's something new here.

the reason people are crying isnt that it has an orange tip on it, its because the package is being ripped open, and modified by someone. now mind you, i open most of my figs, but it still irks me to know that SOMEONE ELSE has opened MY toy. however, if this rumor is true, and the orange tip is applied at the factory, then it could still be sealed.

only time will tell. im still up in arms as to what to do about my preorder.

It seems like the unmodified MP Megs could be quite valuable down the road.

If applying orange tips to fake guns is so crucial why dont we see criminals walking around with blaze orange tips on their real guns?

Immortal Starscream wrote:the reason people are crying isnt that it has an orange tip on it, its because the package is being ripped open, and modified by someone. now mind you, i open most of my figs, but it still irks me to know that SOMEONE ELSE has opened MY toy. however, if this rumor is true, and the orange tip is applied at the factory, then it could still be sealed.

only time will tell. im still up in arms as to what to do about my preorder.

Ok, that makes sense. I wouldn't want anyone rippin' into my new, minty fresh MP 05 to modify that as well. But being it's gonna be put on by Takara/Tomy, I don't see a problem.

Just want to throw this out to everybody again.....this is a RUMOR and is in no way proven to be correct, just word from one source.

Crazy laws. What's to stop a criminal from painting the muzzle of his real firearm bright orange, so that a cop or another person thinks the gun is just a toy? This kind of thing swings both ways. I'm glad to say that the last toy gun I bought was a slightly scaled-down military rifle, way back in 1986 or so, just before that law went into effect.

If I get the MP-05 Megatron, and his gun barrel has an orange tip, I'm breaking out the paints and repainting that bastard. The toy would never leave my room anyway.

FellintoOblivion wrote:If applying orange tips to fake guns is so crucial why dont we see criminals walking around with blaze orange tips on their real guns?

The same reason that crooks that rob convienence stores often don't wear masks.

Air Commander Starscream wrote:

Kronos wrote:If it's being shipped in Bot mode, if the customs people aren't familiar with transformers, how are they going to know if the picture of the gun on the box which doesn't have an orange tip is different from the transformer in the box? It'd be kinda hard to see the orange tip without opening it anyway and looking at it.

Because it STILL transforms into a real gun hence why toy gun laws apply. Also if a kid were to get shot and killed the company who sold it would be liable for damages because they did not put on the orange cap to corespond with US toy laws.

You're missing what I'm saying. I'm saying if someone bought the orange tipped version, customs will STILL open your box since it's being shipped in bot mode and they can't see the orange tip. I doubt that Takara's going to put a pic of the orange tip on the box.

Can't the tip be easily removed or painted over?

Suck it up, or paint it black.

It aint rocket science poeple.

Simple answer don't buy it from BigBadToyStore or whoever chooses to carry these modified versions (if this comes to pass which i doubt). Buy from a private seller on ebay or another auction site who can pick you up an unmodifified Japanese release. Christ, that what I do anyway, it's cheaper and faster!

Yours AK

Psychout wrote:Suck it up, or paint it black.

It aint rocket science poeple.

Word up.

But just to be clear, if he turned into a rocket would he still have the orange tip?

Chops13 wrote:well i have two sides to this because i am in law enforcement i feel as a fan it sucks that there has to be a orange cap on 100 dollar megatron masterpiece it is totally going to ruin it but as a police officer i think this the only way we can have this "toy gun" imported in a society that we live in. we have arrested 14 year olds for having 357 magnums and just plain out regular guns so imagine if a kid pulls this out on you a stop how it would make u feel if u have to use deadly physical force i think in all as being in law enforcement this "toy gun" should not be imported at all, but as fan it is great reproduction and will be awesome to have but i do not want to have deal with this at work it would really suck!!!

Oh good, maybe someone who can finally answer my question. So, I'm just curious, if a kid pulled a realistic gun on you with an orange cap, do you treat it as a real gun? If the kid looks like he's going to pull the trigger on you, do you take him down? If so, don't you think it would look much worse that a cop took down a kid with a toy gun with an orange cap than if the cop took down a kid a realistic looking gun with no cap? The outcome is the same and is bad but I'm just saying the publicity would be worse with the cap. And if you don't take him down and it turns out the be a real gun, you get shot if you do nothing.

I'm still suprised with all the orange cap issues with MP-05. I got a unmodified TFC-06 reissue two weeks ago with very little issues (drove to toynk.com's store and bought it) and that's an almost a 1:1 replica of a real pistol (Walther P-38/P-1), packaged in gun mode, and no one can get an unmodified MP-05 which is going to be about 2 to 3 times the size of the original.

muswp1 wrote:I'm still suprised with all the orange cap issues with MP-05. I got a unmodified TFC-06 reissue two weeks ago with very little issues (drove to toynk.com's store and bought it) and that's an almost a 1:1 replica of a real pistol (Walther P-38/P-1), packaged in gun mode, and no one can get an unmodified MP-05 which is going to be about 2 to 3 times the size of the original.

Ya me too. Silver Snail in Toronto got them from a company in the US and none of them are modified.

The way I look at it is, if it's tipped when you get it, find a way to deal with it. I'm not saying that to be rude to anyone, but as an actual statement. No one can say for sure that they can get it with out a cap yet because no one has actually tried to get an MP-05 into their country. (seeing as it has yet to be released)

HLJ, BBTS, AHQ, none of them know 100% for sure weather they can get it with or without a cap if this rumor is indeed true.