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On a different note, I just nabbed my own Voyagers. I can confirm that nowhere on Starscream's packaging or instructions does it give us a name for his combiner. It's just called a Super Robot on the instructions.

Ultra Markus wrote:that rodimus prime vehicle mode reminds me of something

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Old meme, like 1986 old, still valid and never gets old.

Kurona wrote:What happened to Catilla?

This one?

Prime Masters:
Wave 2
Landmine- E1116, 63050964886
Catilla- E1115, 63050964887

Misnamed Alchemist Prime with Submarauder. It's also possible it was an attempt to release Toraizer in his stead early on, but the name stuck for some reason.

I found a good set of weapons for Slash!

So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I'm honestly surprised Takara hasn't taken a crack at Liokaiser yet. I can easily see them creating a Leozack and Jallguar to replace evil Sky Lynx. I would buy that in a heartbeat and never again look upon my Hasbro version.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:A brilliant point.

A well reasoned response

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I have some Seacons and Monstercons that need updating, dang it.

Also, if given the choice between buying a half-complete combiner or not buying them at all, I'm going the cheap route and saving my cash for something else. Starscream seems . . . halfhearted at best, and Elita 1 is a recolored copy. Inferno is just a red Hot Spot. Hasbro wants us to buy these but won't provide enough limbots to to complete them? Sorry, but no.

Shelf Warmer #1, Shelf Warmer #2, and Shelf Warmer #3.

Brokebot wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:A brilliant point.

A well reasoned response

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I have some Seacons and Monstercons that need updating, dang it.

Also, if given the choice between buying a half-complete combiner or not buying them at all, I'm going the cheap route and saving my cash for something else. Starscream seems . . . halfhearted at best, and Elita 1 is a recolored copy. Inferno is just a red Hot Spot. Hasbro wants us to buy these but won't provide enough limbots to to complete them? Sorry, but no.

Shelf Warmer #1, Shelf Warmer #2, and Shelf Warmer #3.

Honestly, Starscream's torso mode is the best thing about him. His jet mode doesn't hold together well, and his robot mode is very bland. His torso mode, however is very solid and utilizes a very interesting transformation. If I had to pick one voyager out of these oddballs to keep in combiner mode, it'd be him.

william-james88 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)

For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better

what about devestator?

Lore Keeper wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I'm honestly surprised Takara hasn't taken a crack at Liokaiser yet. I can easily see them creating a Leozack and Jallguar to replace evil Sky Lynx. I would buy that in a heartbeat and never again look upon my Hasbro version.

then check this out! http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/c ... r.1104026/

Just got grimlock and the prime masters at TRU in Cedar Rapids. $5.99 for prime masters...

then check this out! http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/c ... r.1104026/

I saw that earlier today. It's quite impressive.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:that rodimus prime vehicle mode reminds me of something

2a1d7ee1-507b-434f-8395-13434e20bc7c.jpg

Old meme, like 1986 old, still valid and never gets old.

Yep, there was definitely a joke about him being a "space Winnebago" in the '80s.

Lore Keeper wrote:

bodrock wrote:Has anyone received their HTS Prime Master orders yet? I'm just wondering how long it usually takes them to deliver....

I got mine yesterday, but I live pretty close to their warehouse, so I usually get my package the day after it ships.

Same, mine came in Friday, but Pennsylvania to Maine isn't all that far.

Ultra Markus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)

For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better

what about devestator?

Personally I like to think of him/them as a simplified Masterpiece rather than part of Combiner Wars. They look fantastic both individually and combined alongside real MPs and Devastator properly towers over everyone. But then, I have the Unite Warriors version so I can say for sure I would feel the same way with the CW version.

In other news, the Prime Masters are pretty fun figures. I don't know if I would say they're better than Titan Masters Since TM vehicles had three modes (a ride-on mode, a ride-in mode, and a weapon mode) while PM armors only turn into suits or weapons, but they do look pretty good in both modes. As a bonus you can detach the weapon end from the back of the armor and there's a tiny handle so the armor can hold on and use it as a full weapon itself. The Metalhawk armor does this best because of how far down the gun the handle is. The Skullgrin armor I think looks better holding the claw weapon than he looks turning into one. I imagine the Submarauder armor is going to be a similar case, looking better holding the triton than turning into one.

Emerje

Lore Keeper wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I'm honestly surprised Takara hasn't taken a crack at Liokaiser yet. I can easily see them creating a Leozack and Jallguar to replace evil Sky Lynx. I would buy that in a heartbeat and never again look upon my Hasbro version.

I'm campaigning on Twitter to get a lot of stuff out of this line.

Since Deluxe-Duocon-tech is coming up in this line, I don't see why Leozack and Jellguar are out of the question.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Since Deluxe-Duocon-tech is coming up in this line, I don't see why Leozack and Jellguar are out of the question.

Implementation of proper Combiner Ports, two each. It's worth noting that Deluxes don't have proper ratchet joints, thus no springs. And it's springs that are inside those ports.

Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy may surprise us, but first I wanna see Slog and Birdbrain for precedence, since Wildfly was on the brain of Cutthroat's designer.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Since Deluxe-Duocon-tech is coming up in this line, I don't see why Leozack and Jellguar are out of the question.

Implementation of proper Combiner Ports, two each. It's worth noting that Deluxes don't have proper ratchet joints, thus no springs. And it's springs that are inside those ports.

Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy may surprise us, but first I wanna see Slog and Birdbrain for precedence, since Wildfly was on the brain of Cutthroat's designer.

One could just get switched to a legends-class 'add on', like the original CW Groove or Powerglide for Superion.

Skritz wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Since Deluxe-Duocon-tech is coming up in this line, I don't see why Leozack and Jellguar are out of the question.

Implementation of proper Combiner Ports, two each. It's worth noting that Deluxes don't have proper ratchet joints, thus no springs. And it's springs that are inside those ports.

Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy may surprise us, but first I wanna see Slog and Birdbrain for precedence, since Wildfly was on the brain of Cutthroat's designer.

One could just get switched to a legends-class 'add on', like the original CW Groove or Powerglide for Superion.

They could, but it would still just feel like a cop out. Engineering two roughly deluxe size figures that each possess two combiner ports and attach to each other is far from the hardest or most expensive thing HasTak has had to do.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Skritz wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Since Deluxe-Duocon-tech is coming up in this line, I don't see why Leozack and Jellguar are out of the question.

Implementation of proper Combiner Ports, two each. It's worth noting that Deluxes don't have proper ratchet joints, thus no springs. And it's springs that are inside those ports.

Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy may surprise us, but first I wanna see Slog and Birdbrain for precedence, since Wildfly was on the brain of Cutthroat's designer.

One could just get switched to a legends-class 'add on', like the original CW Groove or Powerglide for Superion.

They could, but it would still just feel like a cop out. Engineering two roughly deluxe size figures that each possess two combiner ports and attach to each other is far from the hardest or most expensive thing HasTak has had to do.

That would result in rather big legs and chests tho...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Skritz wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Since Deluxe-Duocon-tech is coming up in this line, I don't see why Leozack and Jellguar are out of the question.

Implementation of proper Combiner Ports, two each. It's worth noting that Deluxes don't have proper ratchet joints, thus no springs. And it's springs that are inside those ports.

Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy may surprise us, but first I wanna see Slog and Birdbrain for precedence, since Wildfly was on the brain of Cutthroat's designer.

One could just get switched to a legends-class 'add on', like the original CW Groove or Powerglide for Superion.

They could, but it would still just feel like a cop out. Engineering two roughly deluxe size figures that each possess two combiner ports and attach to each other is far from the hardest or most expensive thing HasTak has had to do.

That would result in rather big legs and chests tho...

Just means he never skips leg day or chest day.

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm honestly surprised Takara hasn't taken a crack at Liokaiser yet. I can easily see them creating a Leozack and Jallguar to replace evil Sky Lynx.

I cant.

Ultra Markus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)

For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better

what about devestator?

I assumed we were referring only to the scramble city bots.

For clarity, I am saying most of these things are very doable, and there are some companies that would go the extra mile. I'm in no way implying that I expect any of this to happen. Hasbro's logistical and financial philosophy don't really align with my way of thinking.

I think we have a better chance of a Voyager Leozack and Legends class Jallguar that can double as Leokaiser's belt rather than his actual upper legs.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I think we have a better chance of a Voyager Leozack and Legends class Jallguar that can double as Leokaiser's belt rather than his actual upper legs.

Emerje

I can see this working quite well.

It's cool to have random combinations of torsos/limbs...

But as others have mentioned, the Seacons & the Pretender Monsters need an update, too.

Since I'm in Oregon, I probably won't see my Prime Masters from HTS til Tuesday or so.