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Sabrblade wrote:Those are Movie Optimus flames.

? No
Laser came first
Movie Optimus is obviously supposed to be an "cooler" imitation of laser prime
But they ultimately failed
They took what made Laser Prime cool and distorted it

I'd say they added the flames to honour live action Optimus, after all the movies brought many more fans to the franchise and more money to hasbro through profit shares and the movie toylines which were sublime.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Those are Movie Optimus flames.

? No
Laser came first
Movie Optimus is obviously supposed to be an "cooler" imitation of laser prime
But they ultimately failed
They took what made Laser Prime cool and distorted it

No no, see, the original G2 Laser Optimus from the 90s had no flames on its truck nose. The colors just faded from black to red in a smooth gradient:




Hasbro later gave the design Movie Optimus's flames when they made the Reveal the Shield version of Laser Optimus in 2011:



When they did the Titans Return version in the proper G2 Laser Optimus colors, they got rid of the truck nose's flames and put back the black-to-red gradiant:



But now with this Lagacy version, Hasbro has restored the flames once again:

ZeroWolf wrote:I'd say they added the flames to honour live action Optimus, after all the movies brought many more fans to the franchise and more money to hasbro through profit shares and the movie toylines which were sublime.

No it's just a stylization of the front of the color split between red and black on the front of the origional.

The return of Optimus Prime I wish had been

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I'd say they added the flames to honour live action Optimus, after all the movies brought many more fans to the franchise and more money to hasbro through profit shares and the movie toylines which were sublime.

No it's just a stylization of the front of the color split between red and black on the front of the origional.

Might want to check the post above mine.

Technically prime and hot rod were dual leaders in the Japanese only Headmasters anime...for all of two-three episodes till prime died again (wanting to give Goku from DBZ a run for his money on death counts)

Laser Prime cleans up beautifully

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Laser Prime cleans up beautifully

No need to post the review one sentence at a time, one picture at a time.
Just post your review in one extensive post. It's way easier to read and follow this way.

Okay I was asleep on this one....why the hell did I pay over $30 bucks for Red Cog? Right away I thought it was a pricing error but there it was clear as day on the freakin' peg. So I'm highly considering returning this guy with the hopes of maybe a mark down or lucky to make it to clearance but FRAK that much...? And I loved for a moment looking at all the various prices for Deluxe size figures...$22...$24....

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Nice. I'm awaiting Scourge, hopefully he scales well with UW Baldigus.

Baldigus. Is that Ruination?

The Japanese version, yes.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Okay I was asleep on this one....why the hell did I pay over $30 bucks for Red Cog? Right away I thought it was a pricing error but there it was clear as day on the freakin' peg. So I'm highly considering returning this guy with the hopes of maybe a mark down or lucky to make it to clearance but FRAK that much...? And I loved for a moment looking at all the various prices for Deluxe size figures...$22...$24....

Maybe you paid extra for the soda cans, arcee attachment, and other useless goodies.

I was going to ask, does red cog stay together better than the origional?

Wildrider is anything but a wild ride.

I got him earlier this week and opened him up yesterday.

He doesn't get as tabby as other Legacy figures, which results in a few bits being left a bit loose when transformed, nothing figure ruining, but not as good as Dragstrip.

Transformation is bog standard for a car. Lower legs open up and fold in half etc etc.

Putting him into leg mode involves folding the hood and windscreen up. Yeah, that's it.

Because he doesn't tab together tightly as others, getting him to connect to Menasor was a bit troublesome. There are two pegs at the top and two notches further down which all need to line up, the loosey goosey-ness (again it's only a minor looseness not anything major) made it a bit hard to get all four to line up.

Eventually I got him connected and ... yeah. He faces backwards. I know this is cartoon accuracy but for display purposes Wildrider and Breakdown will essentially not be seen and are virtually pointless.

Burn wrote:Wildrider is anything but a wild ride.

I got him earlier this week and opened him up yesterday.

He doesn't get as tabby as other Legacy figures, which results in a few bits being left a bit loose when transformed, nothing figure ruining, but not as good as Dragstrip.

Transformation is bog standard for a car. Lower legs open up and fold in half etc etc.

Putting him into leg mode involves folding the hood and windscreen up. Yeah, that's it.

Because he doesn't tab together tightly as others, getting him to connect to Menasor was a bit troublesome. There are two pegs at the top and two notches further down which all need to line up, the loosey goosey-ness (again it's only a minor looseness not anything major) made it a bit hard to get all four to line up.

Eventually I got him connected and ... yeah. He faces backwards. I know this is cartoon accuracy but for display purposes Wildrider and Breakdown will essentially not be seen and are virtually pointless.

Does wildrider add any stability to Menasor or is it just making the leg look more filled out.

ZeroWolf wrote:Does wildrider add any stability to Menasor or is it just making the leg look more filled out.

He's a gap filler. All the stability is in the feet and ratcheted ankle tilts.

Burn wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Does wildrider add any stability to Menasor or is it just making the leg look more filled out.

He's a gap filler. All the stability is in the feet and ratcheted ankle tilts.

So you could basically stick Snicker bars on Menasor's limbs and it will achieve the same purpose as "combining" with proper limb gap-filler bots.

If Motormaster wouldn't be so expensive, I could create some crazy customs with that principle. Oh well. I'm still going to build the proper Legacy Menasor regardless.

Burn wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Does wildrider add any stability to Menasor or is it just making the leg look more filled out.

He's a gap filler. All the stability is in the feet and ratcheted ankle tilts.

We already knew it stands on it's own without cars attached. It's kind of a strange question.

Sabrblade wrote:

I like how the Japanese United figure said, "screw it! Gradient AND flames!!"

Nemesis Destron wrote:Okay I was asleep on this one....why the hell did I pay over $30 bucks for Red Cog? Right away I thought it was a pricing error but there it was clear as day on the freakin' peg. So I'm highly considering returning this guy with the hopes of maybe a mark down or lucky to make it to clearance but FRAK that much...? And I loved for a moment looking at all the various prices for Deluxe size figures...$22...$24....

Deluxe figures are $25 now, the extras are $5 which is actually a reduced price compared to the Centurion Drone and Tricranius which both added $10 to the then current Deluxe price.

Emerje

sol magnus wrote:

Burn wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Does wildrider add any stability to Menasor or is it just making the leg look more filled out.

He's a gap filler. All the stability is in the feet and ratcheted ankle tilts.

We already knew it stands on it's own without cars attached. It's kind of a strange question.

Just because we know it stands on its own doesn't mean it feels completely stable. I can get plenty of my figures to stand for a picture without them feeling all that sturdy. That's not even considering how the stability would be affected with both car arms and weapons outstretched. Perhaps with car arms and no car legs, certain poses would be harder to do because figure would be top heavy. I'm not sure what you think is strange about the question

Nemesis Destron wrote:Okay I was asleep on this one....why the hell did I pay over $30 bucks for Red Cog? Right away I thought it was a pricing error but there it was clear as day on the freakin' peg. So I'm highly considering returning this guy with the hopes of maybe a mark down or lucky to make it to clearance but FRAK that much...? And I loved for a moment looking at all the various prices for Deluxe size figures...$22...$24....

RED Cog is released as a weapons pack, similar to other packs we got in both Kingdom and Siege which have 1 deluxe that splits apart along with extra weapons for différent characters. Hence why he is that much.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Burn wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Does wildrider add any stability to Menasor or is it just making the leg look more filled out.

He's a gap filler. All the stability is in the feet and ratcheted ankle tilts.

We already knew it stands on it's own without cars attached. It's kind of a strange question.

Just because we know it stands on its own doesn't mean it feels completely stable. I can get plenty of my figures to stand for a picture without them feeling all that sturdy. That's not even considering how the stability would be affected with both car arms and weapons outstretched. Perhaps with car arms and no car legs, certain poses would be harder to do because figure would be top heavy. I'm not sure what you think is strange about the question

Maybe its the plethora of pictures as Menasor I've seen either on Youtube or static photos. That it stands with no issues doesn't seem to be an issue (to me).

sol magnus wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Burn wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Does wildrider add any stability to Menasor or is it just making the leg look more filled out.

He's a gap filler. All the stability is in the feet and ratcheted ankle tilts.

We already knew it stands on it's own without cars attached. It's kind of a strange question.

Just because we know it stands on its own doesn't mean it feels completely stable. I can get plenty of my figures to stand for a picture without them feeling all that sturdy. That's not even considering how the stability would be affected with both car arms and weapons outstretched. Perhaps with car arms and no car legs, certain poses would be harder to do because figure would be top heavy. I'm not sure what you think is strange about the question

Maybe its the plethora of pictures as Menasor I've seen either on Youtube or static photos. That it stands with no issues doesn't seem to be an issue (to me).

Yeah, seems like they've gotten Menasor into some cool poses. And I haven't paid too much attention to videos, so you probably have a better idea of the stability than I do. But I'm just wondering if fully combined mode adds some more weight in the base as far as the legs are concerned, and if the arms would make the figure top heavy without the legs. I could be wrong, maybe the shape of the feet creates stability with or without added weight, just wondering since smaller figures sometimes have the problem of becoming top heavy and toppling when upper body has more weight than lower body

I found before I put Wildrider on that there was POTENTIAL there for him to be a little top heavy and COULD lean/topple forward. So while it's not much, I guess having them on the back gives him that LITTLE bit of extra stability.

But the feet and ratchet ankles do a really good job of holding him in place.

I don't have Wild Rider yet, but my Motormaster just arrived earlier today...

He looks just as good if not a little better in-hand.
What I'm most impressed with is the engineering, and the quality...
Even though I hadn't read or heard of any real complaints with QC, as I was transforming Motormaster, and just a little while ago the trailer, I couldn't help but continuously wonder, "Okay, what isn't going to work right? What isn't going to lock, tab or connect correctly? How is this release going to be a letdown?". This was a very faint questioning in the back of my mind.
But I'm happy to report that I really can't think of a legit negative to this figure so far...

I absolutely love the look.
And yes, he is very stable... Actually, I'm a bit surprised at how stable he is. And all I have right now is Dragstrip attached.
But I doubt adding any other figures is going to decrease the stability...
As Burn said, I could see having the leg figures attached possibly adding to the overall stability by adding a little more weight to the lower legs.

Oh, here's one thing I don't really like-- the blaster is kind of lame.
I have no intention of using the "battle station" mode. Ever. So maybe it works best for that mode.
But for Motormaster or Menasor, it just doesn't work imo.
So IF I can get a cool blaster from a 3P, I may... Otherwise I'm good with him just wielding the included sword.

If you can count/call Menasor a single figure, I'm calling it now-- he'll be my figure of year.
Hands-down, no question.
I'd also say completing this set has surpassed the excitement I had waiting for SS86 Sludge.
Which for me is saying a whole lot.

If you've been on the fence about getting Menasor, I am highly recommending going for it.
Amazon has both Motormaster and Dragstrip available for the original prices ($85, & $23).

Imo this set is not to be missed.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Oh, here's one thing I don't really like-- the blaster is kind of lame.

You would be hard pressed to find anyone who disagrees with this.

I did see someone on Facebook had worked out a way to make it into an arm mountable blaster, unfortunately by the time I'd unpacked my Motormaster and put him into Menasor mode I had no chance of finding that post.

The Skullgrin reveal and the Metalhawk listing has me excited cause that could mean a possible Octopunch and then a repaint/retool into a Seaspray figure.