nightshade666 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:nightshade666 wrote:No moreso than G1 Tracks, who was equally given a vain personality and an exaggerated campy voice. Yet, people adamantly defend Tracks as not being such.
I am not sure about that one because tracks is not like knock out. plus he is an autobot and more people defend him.
He's every bit as vain as Knock Out is, regardless of his faction. Back in the day, people were claiming that Tracks was gay just as much as people do today about Knock Out.
I am inferring that nowadays people are more criticizing and sarcastic
Well, I certainly can't argue that last point since I'm one of the leaders in that particular pack. What gets me is that folks considered Tracks gay way back in the day. I never thought he was gay, I just thought he was an arrogant, narcissistic douchebag. Kind of like taking Sunstreaker and jacking him up a few notches.
I have to applaud everyone for the input that's been presented so far. This has been one of the most thought inspiring, "science meets philosophy" debates that I've seen on here and the level of civility is absolutely heartening. As for my own take on the subject, I honestly don't know where to begin with my own input. So many theories that I may subscribe to have already been touched upon and I feel that the only true, rock solid answer we would ever get would be to actually ask the one individual who is responsible for the creation of the entire TF mythos from day one. Since that isn't likely to happen due to the fact that so many hands have been dipped into that particular creative pot that no one knows for certain anymore just who to turn to, this leaves the entire topic within the realm of the ponderings of the ancient philosophers of our own origins.
However, if I had to theorize I would have to say that ultimately I would like to think that the creation of a new Cybertronian spark would come about from the mixing of two distinct "parent" sparks. A portion of each spark being joined in whatever manner (not necessarily by any standard manner thought of as "sexual") to create a decidedly new and unique spark around which a spark casing would form and later a protoform shell, and after a given span of time a developed protoform would come fully on-line and take a form resembling at first something that appeared to be a mix of both "Parents".
While this has nothing to do with the topic of Gender and everything to do with conception it does bring to light that the Gender issue is really only an issue with wholly organic life-forms. While we have established that, by definiton, the Transformers are "biological", the need for gender is not really a "need" in the process of biology for their race but is something that would only be a nagging preoccupation in the minds of sentient "organics" such as ourselves. I would propose that "gender", much the same as their ability to transform, is an adaptive feature used to blend in to their environment and is really only a noticeable feature outside the confines of Cybertron itself. Within their own race it is something that would not be noticed or acknowledged any more than making the distinction between a Cybertronians alt-mode resembling a Ford or a Chevy. The Cybertronian could care less, it's just fitting in to it's new environment.
That's just my take on it. Whether or not it fits with any of the multitude of explanations out there, whether it somehow falls in line with any continuity is not of particular concern to me. It's just one fans opinion or insight into the possibilities. After all, this discussion has blurred the lines between philosophy and science and speculation is the only realm that covers both adequately until such time as hard "science-fact" can resolve the issue.