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Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Transformers News: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Saturday, February 18th, 2017 7:59PM CST

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Did you really think New York Toy Fair was all we had this weekend? Wrong!

Wonderfest 2017 is currently going on and there are both a ton of new things being revealed, as well as a ton of new images for upcoming product. Among those upcoming products is Masterpiece Cheetor! Cheetor was given his own display alongside Big Bot himself, and can be seen from many different angles thanks to Twitter users tsukiryu@WF5-23-13, ひでΩ ☀(アローラの姿), くろさび, and 小山田(アドビ). You can check out all the mirrored images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section!

Transformers News: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Transformers News: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Transformers News: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Transformers News: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Transformers News: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Transformers News: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Transformers News: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w
Credit(s): tsukiryu@WF5-23-13, ひでΩ ☀(アローラの姿), くろさび, and 小山田(アドビ)on Twitter

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Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1860892)
Posted by SureShot18 on February 18th, 2017 @ 8:00pm CST
Not too much longer now. Soon he'll be mine. :DANCE:
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1860893)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2017 @ 8:00pm CST
Ultra gear!

Now THAT'S gorgeous!

There he is, my little guy. There he is. My little guy. Isn't he cute?
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1861032)
Posted by fenrir72 on February 18th, 2017 @ 10:48pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Did you really think New York Toy Fair was all we had this weekend? Wrong!

Wonderfest 2017 is currently going on and there are both a ton of new things being revealed, as well as a ton of new images for upcoming product. Among those upcoming products is Masterpiece Cheetor! Cheetor was given his own display alongside Big Bot himself, and can be seen from many different angles thanks to Twitter users



Robo whiskers! :x
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862368)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 23rd, 2017 @ 11:01am CST
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862370)
Posted by TheMuffin on February 23rd, 2017 @ 11:37am CST
It's so pretty. Wish I'd remembered to pre order it.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862420)
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 23rd, 2017 @ 2:42pm CST
HLJ called, payment is made and shipped. be here in 3 to 5 business days. Interesting to note, Grapple dropped as well. These two guys together are costing less to ship than Primal was back in October.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862427)
Posted by SureShot18 on February 23rd, 2017 @ 3:06pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:HLJ called, payment is made and shipped. be here in 3 to 5 business days. Interesting to note, Grapple dropped as well. These two guys together are costing less to ship than Primal was back in October.

HLJ rang here too. I'll probably choose cheaper and slower shipping when I pay but I'll have my first MP very soon. :DANCE:
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862476)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 23rd, 2017 @ 7:54pm CST
Tons more in hand pics here - https://twitter.com/ZEAMTIGER/media

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Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862481)
Posted by Overcracker on February 23rd, 2017 @ 8:19pm CST
Those pics just make me want it more. Damn Anime Export, when are you going to ship it?

Anyway, gotta give props to the engineering team, that cheetah mode has very few robot parts actually showing and is thin as all heck.

And the robot mode really looks cool.

Not sure which Cheetah face I'll give him though.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862498)
Posted by william-james88 on February 23rd, 2017 @ 9:19pm CST
Fellow Seibertronian Sabreblade has pointed us to a twitter page loaded with in hand images of the newly released Masterpiece MP 34 Cheetor. Here they are below, giving us the best look at this figure yet. You can see how well articulates it is and all the accessoried he comes with and the different display options they provide, like all those cheetah expressions.

We also get a sense of scale with him next to the generations Rattrap and Rhinox molds.

Enjoy!

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Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862501)
Posted by SureShot18 on February 23rd, 2017 @ 9:25pm CST
Looks like the fake cheeta head is right behind the gut gun in cheeta mode. You can see the ears towards the front of that section. Also it seems the real cheeta is sucked into the robot torso, as was expected. The fact that these pieces are on opposite sides of the beast mode but are right next to each other in robot mode means this is going to be a very interesting transformation.
Also Cheetor should be here Wednesday! I couldn't help it, I chose the faster shipping.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862508)
Posted by Kurona on February 23rd, 2017 @ 9:36pm CST
While shots with Rattrap and Rhinox are appreciated, I'm extremely surprised there's no photos of Cheetor with MP Primal. Surely that would have been the most obvious one?

In any case, holy heck he looks great. I don't even like Cheetor as much as the rest of the Maximals but he looks absolutely delicious here.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862513)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 23rd, 2017 @ 10:12pm CST
Check out his Beast Mode eye articulation:

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Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862529)
Posted by lowman_x on February 23rd, 2017 @ 11:22pm CST
A beauty of a figure bar a minor quibble: not digging the half-tone patterning/style of his cheetah spots. It's really throwing me.

Also, the placement of Rattrap's gun in beast mode is unfortunate when he stands on his back legs... LOL
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862533)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 23rd, 2017 @ 11:41pm CST
lowman_x wrote:A beauty of a figure bar a minor quibble: not digging the half-tone patterning/style of his cheetah spots. It's really throwing me.
There's a very specific reason for those spots looking the way they do.

They replicate the UVW map stretching that Mainframe used to create the cheetah spots on Cheetor's CG model.

That's right. Takara actually recreated 1996 television budget-level CGI techniques in physical 2017 plastic form. It is so OCD-absurd that I can't help but admire how far they went to achieve such meticulously-faithful perfection, warts and all, in plastic form.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862535)
Posted by lowman_x on February 24th, 2017 @ 12:18am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
lowman_x wrote:A beauty of a figure bar a minor quibble: not digging the half-tone patterning/style of his cheetah spots. It's really throwing me.
There's a very specific reason for those spots looking the way they do.

They replicate the UVW map stretching that Mainframe used to create the cheetah spots on Cheetor's CG model.

That's right. Takara actually recreated 1996 television budget-level CGI techniques in physical 2017 plastic form. It is so OCD-absurd that I can't help but admire how far they went to achieve such meticulously-faithful perfection, warts and all, in plastic form.


Yeah, I'd figured that they were going for 1990s texture mapped realism, but IRL it's making me dislike the figure despite all of the really good aspects about it (of which there are plenty).
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862536)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 24th, 2017 @ 12:19am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
lowman_x wrote:A beauty of a figure bar a minor quibble: not digging the half-tone patterning/style of his cheetah spots. It's really throwing me.
There's a very specific reason for those spots looking the way they do.

They replicate the UVW map stretching that Mainframe used to create the cheetah spots on Cheetor's CG model.

That's right. Takara actually recreated 1996 television budget-level CGI techniques in physical 2017 plastic form. It is so OCD-absurd that I can't help but admire how far they went to achieve such meticulously-faithful perfection, warts and all, in plastic form.


Well "spotted", my friend.

Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862537)
Posted by Kurona on February 24th, 2017 @ 12:49am CST
If MP-38 is any indication, they might end up releasing a toy-accurate version somewhere down the line - not to mention the likelihood of Shadow Panther and Tigatron redecoes. There's hope for the mold yet if you don't like how it looks here :)
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862538)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2017 @ 1:00am CST
Kurona wrote:If MP-38 is any indication, they might end up releasing a toy-accurate version somewhere down the line - not to mention the likelihood of Shadow Panther and Tigatron redecoes. There's hope for the mold yet if you don't like how it looks here :)
Shadow Panther I could see, but Tigatron would need his own bigger but similarly-engineered mold.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862540)
Posted by Kurona on February 24th, 2017 @ 1:13am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:If MP-38 is any indication, they might end up releasing a toy-accurate version somewhere down the line - not to mention the likelihood of Shadow Panther and Tigatron redecoes. There's hope for the mold yet if you don't like how it looks here :)
Shadow Panther I could see, but Tigatron would need his own bigger but similarly-engineered mold.

Certainly, but I've been wondering whether or not they would actually do that. How much money they'd be able to make off a Tigatron mold, and if they'd actually go for that extra effort or just throw their arms up, say 'fuck it' and just use Cheetor.
Of course, that's not confirmed, but I think it wouldn't be wise to say it's out of the realm of possibility. He should get his own mold, and maybe he will, but I won't be terribly surprised if they do just decide to not go to that extra effort.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862557)
Posted by Insurgent on February 24th, 2017 @ 3:36am CST
I'll be in my bunk. Lol.

I seriously can't wait for this guy. So much beast wars love. I'm happy.and I'm super happy they've gone for the toon style fur patterns instead of realistic fur pattern. The characters wouldn't look right otherwise.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862558)
Posted by Ravage XK on February 24th, 2017 @ 3:41am CST
I have never been much of a fan of animal alt modes beyond the Dinobots but I did enjoy the Beast Wars show. I cannot wait to get this to go with Primal. I'll be getting it for my birthday, I just hope it gets here in time.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862648)
Posted by Overcracker on February 24th, 2017 @ 11:11am CST
Finally!.

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Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862657)
Posted by Va'al on February 24th, 2017 @ 11:53am CST
We seen a fair number of in-hand images for MP-34 Cheetor, the latest Beast Wars Masterpiece Transformer, from Takara Tomy, earlier today (check them out again here) - but another toy blogger also brings us a fairly important comparison: how does Cheetor / Cheetus look next to MP-32 Optimus Primal / Beast Convoy? Check out the images below and find out!

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Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862658)
Posted by Ravage XK on February 24th, 2017 @ 11:55am CST
Looks awesome is how he looks.

Never would have thought that I would be looking forward to this as much as I am.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862797)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 24th, 2017 @ 10:43pm CST
Doesn't the Tigatron here look amazing?

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I really like Cheetor here, but if a Tigatron is announced, I'd probably go for him instead. Him and Airazor would be BEAST! (pun intended)
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862799)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2017 @ 10:47pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:Doesn't the Tigatron here look amazing?
More like Cheetor cosplaying Tigatron. The limbs are too lanky and scrawny and the beast head's shaped all wrong. Tigatron's buffer that Cheetor. :CROW: :SERVO:
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862802)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 24th, 2017 @ 10:52pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Doesn't the Tigatron here look amazing?
More like Cheetor cosplaying Tigatron. The limbs are too lanky and scrawny and the beast head's shaped all wrong. Tigatron's buffer that Cheetor. :CROW: :SERVO:


Same construction in robot mode in Beast Wars pretty much. It's the bigger head that puts the scale off.

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Looks good to me. Just needs retooling on the beast parts and robot head.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862805)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2017 @ 10:57pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Doesn't the Tigatron here look amazing?
More like Cheetor cosplaying Tigatron. The limbs are too lanky and scrawny and the beast head's shaped all wrong. Tigatron's buffer that Cheetor. :CROW: :SERVO:


Same construction in robot mode in Beast Wars pretty much. It's the bigger head that puts the scale off.

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Looks good to me. Just needs retooling on the beast parts and robot head.
That's just the Japanese toy's box art, not the cartoon model.

The original toys were straight redecos of each other, but Mainframe modified Tigatron's CG model to better distinguish him from Cheetor.

Compare:

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Tigatron's cartoon model was bigger than Cheetor's, and his beast mode was shaped differently.

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Tigatron's beast mode has more overall mass to it. A larger head, thicker legs, a more rounded back and belly; about the only thing his and Cheetor's MPs could share is transformation engineering. The rest of Tigatron would need to be a larger mold.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862830)
Posted by Insurgent on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:43am CST
I wouldn't mind if tigatron is a remould, but he does need a thicker beast mode propertiins and new heads in both modes. I know he's meant to be taller than cheetor but he would be close enough for me.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862832)
Posted by Kurona on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:46am CST
I feel it is an extremely likely possibility. They'd do as much retooling as they could, but at the end of the day I simply find making a retool far more likely than an entirely new mold no matter how inaccurate to the actual sizes that may be. Takara may be miracle workers, but they're still a company.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862833)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:50am CST
There's no tidier method of hiding away those cheetah legs, huh?
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862836)
Posted by Insurgent on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:59am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:There's no tidier method of hiding away those cheetah legs, huh?


You mean on his back? That's screen accurate, down to the way they cross over each other.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862837)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 25th, 2017 @ 3:02am CST
Insurgent wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:There's no tidier method of hiding away those cheetah legs, huh?


You mean on his back? That's screen accurate, down to the way they cross over each other.


Yeah and I didn't like it then either (though to be honest I didn't care for Beast Wars in general.. stories were alright but the CGI was really hard for me to get past). Screen accuracy is not always a good thing. Suppose if you're a big fan of Cheetor this toy is great.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862838)
Posted by Kurona on February 25th, 2017 @ 3:05am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Insurgent wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:There's no tidier method of hiding away those cheetah legs, huh?


You mean on his back? That's screen accurate, down to the way they cross over each other.


Yeah and I didn't like it then either (though to be honest I didn't care for Beast Wars in general.. stories were alright but the CGI was really hard for me to get past). Screen accuracy is not always a good thing. Suppose if you're a big fan of Cheetor this toy is great.

Well, it is Masterpiece - screen accuracy is the name of the game. If you want a cool update you have to rely on Generations eventually coming up with something.
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Posted by Insurgent on February 25th, 2017 @ 3:07am CST
Screen accuracy is a big deal for the masterpiece line. If it was something like generations, I'd agree with you.


As for the cgi... Yeah i can understand how it looks dated. But for the second ever show to ever be made from cgi, when it was in it's infancy, it was groundbreaking at the time.
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 25th, 2017 @ 3:54am CST
Insurgent wrote:Screen accuracy is a big deal for the masterpiece line. If it was something like generations, I'd agree with you.


As for the cgi... Yeah i can understand how it looks dated. But for the second ever show to ever be made from cgi, when it was in it's infancy, it was groundbreaking at the time.



I know it was early CGI but even then it just looked horrendous to me and really off-putting. Amazes me that even now you get CGI cartoons that just lack a sense of 'life' to them in their environments (I tried watching Beware the Batman and Gotham felt so empty and hollow... not a city at all but just cheap looking backdrops). Even now I still far prefer 2D animation over 3D. I'd take the classic era Disney over Pixar anyday.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862904)
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 25th, 2017 @ 1:31pm CST
If plastic tires on their masterpiece cars don't bother Takara, then and undersized Tigatron won't bother them either.
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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 25th, 2017 @ 1:40pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
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SillySpringer wrote:Doesn't the Tigatron here look amazing?
More like Cheetor cosplaying Tigatron. The limbs are too lanky and scrawny and the beast head's shaped all wrong. Tigatron's buffer that Cheetor. :CROW: :SERVO:


Same construction in robot mode in Beast Wars pretty much. It's the bigger head that puts the scale off.

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Looks good to me. Just needs retooling on the beast parts and robot head.
That's just the Japanese toy's box art, not the cartoon model.

The original toys were straight redecos of each other, but Mainframe modified Tigatron's CG model to better distinguish him from Cheetor.

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Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Tigatron's cartoon model was bigger than Cheetor's, and his beast mode was shaped differently.

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Tigatron's beast mode has more overall mass to it. A larger head, thicker legs, a more rounded back and belly; about the only thing his and Cheetor's MPs could share is transformation engineering. The rest of Tigatron would need to be a larger mold.


I get the beast mode, and I already knew that. Robot mode looks pretty dang close to me though, and if anything he looks less bulky because of the larger head.

Like I said, I think they have the capability to change the beast mode parts pretty well and still keep a similar robot mode look. I like to give Takara a good creative chance.

Also I'd prefer Tigatron to not be too big actually because I would want him to fit relatively well with some CHUG figures. His size is hard enough to fit now. I also wouldn't really care to get Tigatron either unless there's an Airazor toy that's decently scaled enough to fit with him.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862910)
Posted by wilcosu35 on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:22pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:If plastic tires on their masterpiece cars don't bother Takara, then and undersized Tigatron won't bother them either.



I wouldn't bet too heavily on that. Plastic tires instead of rubber isn't of the same significance as having figures in correct scale with eachother, and that is one of the strongpoints of the modern Masterpiece line. Tigatron was a lot taller than Cheetor in the cartoon, and i don't see Takara ignoring that size difference, not when they place emphasis on correct scale. I think that if we do get a Tigatron, he will be the same kind of transformation, except larger in size.
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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CST
wilcosu35 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:If plastic tires on their masterpiece cars don't bother Takara, then and undersized Tigatron won't bother them either.



I wouldn't bet too heavily on that. Plastic tires instead of rubber isn't of the same significance as having figures in correct scale with eachother, and that is one of the strongpoints of the modern Masterpiece line. Tigatron was a lot taller than Cheetor in the cartoon, and i don't see Takara ignoring that size difference, not when they place emphasis on correct scale. I think that if we do get a Tigatron, he will be the same kind of transformation, except larger in size.


Either that or they make the legs longer or something. Idunno.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862912)
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:26pm CST
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:31pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:I'll believe it when I see it.


Me too. I just don't see them using the same design of the robot mode but upscaling it slightly where they'd need to use completely different parts on the whole thing and waste all that recolor potential. I personally don't remember Tigatron being much larger than Cheetor in the cartoon if at all, and making a whole new thing just to make him slightly taller just seems like a waste to me IMHO.


...and making the legs slightly longer would only make him taller. He would look even thinner than Cheetor then, and that's not accurate visually at all.

Edit: They also could work around it by releasing a toy-accurate Cheetor and then a toy-accurate Tigatron with new beast parts and just call them an homage to the toy redos, and just skip the cartoon version.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862915)
Posted by wilcosu35 on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:41pm CST
I direct your attention to page 3 of this thread, Sabrblade's second post on the page shows some significant size difference between Tigatron and Cheetor, the latter roughly coming up to the former's chest

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Posted by william-james88 on February 25th, 2017 @ 2:56pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:I'll believe it when I see it.

Me too. While I dont think it will be a straight up redeco, I do feel this will be an inferno/grappel scenario. Where the robot mode is very similar but the alt mode has lots of different parts to change the type of vehicle it is. Tigertron will most likely be a reshell, at leas thats what I believe.
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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 25th, 2017 @ 3:04pm CST
wilcosu35 wrote:I direct your attention to page 3 of this thread, Sabrblade's second post on the page shows some significant size difference between Tigatron and Cheetor, the latter roughly coming up to the former's chest

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Actually, now that I look at that image, you see Tigatron's upper body doesn't look much larger. Just his head and legs looks much bigger.

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Edit: And like I said before, the legs would be easy to do new parts for because they are also the legs in alt mode, and would need to be changed anyway. So, yay! It's easier than I thought!
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862925)
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 25th, 2017 @ 3:31pm CST
wilcosu35 wrote:I direct your attention to page 3 of this thread, Sabrblade's second post on the page shows some significant size difference between Tigatron and Cheetor, the latter roughly coming up to the former's chest

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I also direct your attention to the toys, which I have sitting in front of me right now (I dug them out of Tupperware to make sure), that were straight up repaints of each other. I stress, repaints. Every single part is identical. Not one single deviation, other than paint.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 25th, 2017 @ 6:35pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:
wilcosu35 wrote:I direct your attention to page 3 of this thread, Sabrblade's second post on the page shows some significant size difference between Tigatron and Cheetor, the latter roughly coming up to the former's chest

transformers-masterpiece-beast-wars-cheetor-discussion-t106911s50.php


I also direct your attention to the toys, which I have sitting in front of me right now (I dug them out of Tupperware to make sure), that were straight up repaints of each other. I stress, repaints. Every single part is identical. Not one single deviation, other than paint.


The point is that the media depictions, mostly the cartoons, are taken as the primary base for Masterpiece, not the original toys. Case in point: Lambor with Alert and the Datsun/Fairlady Z trio. The original toys were retools, and only with the outer car shells. The cartoons however gave more differences in robot mode, which were translated into the Masterpiece toys we have now. Toy features do get nods, as Ironhide as shown.

How will that affect a possible Tigatron? Parts will be switched out to make the cheetah into a tiger as per usual. Normally that would do it, but his mean size in the cartoon poses a bit of a problem, but I suspect TakaraTomy has taken that into account: by making the parts switched out slightly larger in places (hardly noticeable even), the sum of the differences could make up the difference in height, tho the result may not be perfect.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862949)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 25th, 2017 @ 6:46pm CST
Like I said above, everything on Cheetor's and Tigatron's upper bodies look almost the same size. It's the length of Tigatron's legs that really makes him look much bigger. This means it's quite possible that all they'll have to do is make longer and bulkier lower legs for Tigatron.
Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w (1862950)
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 25th, 2017 @ 6:57pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
wilcosu35 wrote:I direct your attention to page 3 of this thread, Sabrblade's second post on the page shows some significant size difference between Tigatron and Cheetor, the latter roughly coming up to the former's chest

transformers-masterpiece-beast-wars-cheetor-discussion-t106911s50.php


I also direct your attention to the toys, which I have sitting in front of me right now (I dug them out of Tupperware to make sure), that were straight up repaints of each other. I stress, repaints. Every single part is identical. Not one single deviation, other than paint.


The point is that the media depictions, mostly the cartoons, are taken as the primary base for Masterpiece, not the original toys. Case in point: Lambor with Alert and the Datsun/Fairlady Z trio. The original toys were retools, and only with the outer car shells. The cartoons however gave more differences in robot mode, which were translated into the Masterpiece toys we have now. Toy features do get nods, as Ironhide as shown.

How will that affect a possible Tigatron? Parts will be switched out to make the cheetah into a tiger as per usual. Normally that would do it, but his mean size in the cartoon poses a bit of a problem, but I suspect TakaraTomy has taken that into account: by making the parts switched out slightly larger in places (hardly noticeable even), the sum of the differences could make up the difference in height, tho the result may not be perfect.



I think you have too much faith. I have no doubt some parts will change to look more like a tiger, but mark my words, the sizes will be the exact same.

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