Wonderfest 2017 - New Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Godbomber #TFワンフェス17w

Choujin Gattai!

Godbomber is HUGE!!!!!!!

Gotta admit, it is making me wonder where the heck Godbomber was in those TR Boxsets when it would have made sense with Magnus Prime and it was consistently rumoured. Would've liked it a heck of a lot more than I-am-totally-quickswitch-and-not-bad-extremely-loose-redeco
Maybe they changed their plans half the way through?

The Wonderfest 2017 juggernaut just keeps on rolling, with the next set of figures up for images. Here we have the LG-EX headmaster set, which is comprised of 6 Hasbro Titans Return Titan Master figures in Takara legends coloring, so that way if you own a legends figure, you can actually swap heads with appropriate colors! The set is comprised of: Brainstorm, Hardhead, Chromedome, Flywheels, Gong (AKA Brawn), and Grimlock. You can check out the images below courtesy of Twitter users いたっちょ＠PSO2_Ship1, たごーる, and トランスフォーマー情報局!

Wow, I did not expect Godbomber to be so big.

Maybe that's why is TR self is no longer in that one box set. Maybe he's big enough they had to qualify him as a leader class and he'll be in a 3rd box set!

The reason why Ginrai had those funky feat. May can't come soon enough!

Would be nice to get the takara headmasters individually.

These look really nice, alot better than the lazy no paint hasbro ones

may cant come soon enough!
im a little concerned about his wings being too high and too short though

TFPhotoguy wrote:Would be nice to get the takara headmasters individually.

These look really nice, alot better than the lazy no paint hasbro ones

The 2 new ones Hasbro revealed today are pretty amazing!

william-james88 wrote:

TFPhotoguy wrote:Would be nice to get the takara headmasters individually.

These look really nice, alot better than the lazy no paint hasbro ones

The 2 new ones Hasbro revealed today are pretty amazing!

Who are those two Hasbro commissioned Takara to make? The one on the right I am assuming is Thunderwing. The one on the left looks like Hotrod or Rodimus.

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TFPhotoguy wrote:Would be nice to get the takara headmasters individually.

These look really nice, alot better than the lazy no paint hasbro ones

The 2 new ones Hasbro revealed today are pretty amazing!

Who are those two Hasbro commissioned Takara to make? The one on the right I am assuming is Thunderwing. The one on the left looks like Hotrod or Rodimus.

Rodimus Prime and Thunderwing. They come as heads only in the speed and strength Titans return sets. Rodimus was confirmed to have diecast. Thunderwing maybe

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TFPhotoguy wrote:Would be nice to get the takara headmasters individually.

These look really nice, alot better than the lazy no paint hasbro ones

The 2 new ones Hasbro revealed today are pretty amazing!

Who are those two Hasbro commissioned Takara to make? The one on the right I am assuming is Thunderwing. The one on the left looks like Hotrod or Rodimus.

Rodimus Prime and Thunderwing. They come as heads only in the speed and strength Titans return sets. Rodimus was confirmed to have diecast. Thunderwing maybe

Wild conjecture on Rodimus. Is it possible to have a Takara vehicle/ body for him too? Even Thunderwing using the Skyshadow mold? Takara please please? So long as it ain't a Mall exclusive.

That God Bomber is something else. May can't come soon enough!

Magnus Prime looks good but I really don't like the Godbomber stuff at all.

Rodimus Prime head looks cool but what body would you put it on?
Don't like the Thunderwing face much. But still their robot modes are nicely painted.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Magnus Prime looks good but I really don't like the Godbomber stuff at all.

Rodimus Prime head looks cool but what body would you put it on?
Don't like the Thunderwing face much. But still their robot modes are nicely painted.

Well... given that their only difference in animation was ever their head design, probably Hot Rod.

In any case, think you've got the wrong thread friend

Kurona wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Magnus Prime looks good but I really don't like the Godbomber stuff at all.

Rodimus Prime head looks cool but what body would you put it on?
Don't like the Thunderwing face much. But still their robot modes are nicely painted.

Well... given that their only difference in animation was ever their head design, probably Hot Rod.

In any case, think you've got the wrong thread friend

What do you mean? The Hot Rod body isn't Rodimus Prime.

And why wrong thread? :O

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Magnus Prime looks good but I really don't like the Godbomber stuff at all.

Rodimus Prime head looks cool but what body would you put it on?
Don't like the Thunderwing face much. But still their robot modes are nicely painted.

Well... given that their only difference in animation was ever their head design, probably Hot Rod.

In any case, think you've got the wrong thread friend

What do you mean? The Hot Rod body isn't Rodimus Prime.

And why wrong thread? :O

In both the cartoon and Marvel, Hot Rod and Rodimus had no discernible differences between their bodies other than Rodimus having slightly darker shades of colour, more lines on his face and sometimes he was taller. So the Hot Rod body... does work as Rodimus if you really want it to.

And that'd be 'cos all the stuff you mentioned aside from Godbomber were Hasbro reveals last night, not Takara

Kurona wrote:In both the cartoon and Marvel, Hot Rod and Rodimus had no discernible differences between their bodies other than Rodimus having slightly darker shades of colour, more lines on his face and sometimes he was taller. So the Hot Rod body... does work as Rodimus if you really want it to.

And that'd be 'cos all the stuff you mentioned aside from Godbomber were Hasbro reveals last night, not Takara

Titans Hot Rod works fine as Hot Rod but doesn't have the size/stature of Rodimus Prime who should be Voyager class in comparison to the HR toy and scale with other figures of similar rank and power like Voyager Megatron, Galvatron, Optimus Prime. And plus the alt-mode is vastly different. A full Rodimus Prime voyager figure by either Hasbro or Takara could be awesome. He's never really had a successful & affordable one of that form.

And I was responding to the image posted in this thread just a few posts above.

Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

steals_your_goats wrote:Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

The whole Transformers booth was not that big, admittedly, and they focused a lot on Godbomber, the TLK stuff, and then general showcases from the MP line and Prime 1 Studio. Maybe Legends is reaching towards its end, to make space for the movie year? Maybe a hiatus? I dunno, I'm just saying words.

Va'al wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

The whole Transformers booth was not that big, admittedly, and they focused a lot on Godbomber, the TLK stuff, and then general showcases from the MP line and Prime 1 Studio. Maybe Legends is reaching towards its end, to make space for the movie year? Maybe a hiatus? I dunno, I'm just saying words.

It's entirely possible that legends is ending. Disappointing if the case but at least I can order Sixshot now and quit waiting on Takara so I don't miss out entirely.

Quickswitch not Greatshot? Please Takara! Maybe Christmas 2017?

After all the stuff bought in 2016 I wouldn't mind a short hiatus.

Looking forward to the clones though.

Can Sixshot transform without removing the Titan Master?

Cyberpath wrote:After all the stuff bought in 2016 I wouldn't mind a short hiatus.

Looking forward to the clones though.

Can Sixshot transform without removing the Titan Master?

He can indeed, though if I recall correctly not removing the Titan Master somehow interferes with the Wolf mode.

Cyberpath wrote:Can Sixshot transform without removing the Titan Master?

Yes.

Cool! I might replace my "G1" brick sometime.

Leader class is a good size too, since he was Skyfire-kind of tall in Rebirth. (He could also scale down like Megatron in gun-mode. Shame he doesn't come with a mini-me gun. )

Kurona wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:After all the stuff bought in 2016 I wouldn't mind a short hiatus.

Looking forward to the clones though.

Can Sixshot transform without removing the Titan Master?

He can indeed, though if I recall correctly not removing the Titan Master somehow interferes with the Wolf mode.

There is a hole in the wolf head right behind the ears. The titan master, in head mode, is supposed to lodge right in there. If you keep the titan master in the helmet for transformation, there will be a hole in the wolf mode neck

Cyberpath wrote:After all the stuff bought in 2016 I wouldn't mind a short hiatus.

Looking forward to the clones though.

Can Sixshot transform without removing the Titan Master?

Yes! Get him bro'/ Aside from the lack of ratchets on the knees, he's a great fig! Or maybe wait for the Takara version

Va'al wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

The whole Transformers booth was not that big, admittedly, and they focused a lot on Godbomber, the TLK stuff, and then general showcases from the MP line and Prime 1 Studio. Maybe Legends is reaching towards its end, to make space for the movie year? Maybe a hiatus? I dunno, I'm just saying words.

Words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm. I can see Takara taking a break for the movie line, then coming back with their versions of the Wave 3 and 4 figures.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

The whole Transformers booth was not that big, admittedly, and they focused a lot on Godbomber, the TLK stuff, and then general showcases from the MP line and Prime 1 Studio. Maybe Legends is reaching towards its end, to make space for the movie year? Maybe a hiatus? I dunno, I'm just saying words.

Words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm. I can see Takara taking a break for the movie line, then coming back with their versions of the Wave 3 and 4 figures.

That's very strange to me. Is there precedence for this sort of thing happening? I know there's quite a few figures they've originally skipped, but the bulk of a main line like this kept on hold for so long?

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

The whole Transformers booth was not that big, admittedly, and they focused a lot on Godbomber, the TLK stuff, and then general showcases from the MP line and Prime 1 Studio. Maybe Legends is reaching towards its end, to make space for the movie year? Maybe a hiatus? I dunno, I'm just saying words.

Words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm. I can see Takara taking a break for the movie line, then coming back with their versions of the Wave 3 and 4 figures.

That's very strange to me. Is there precedence for this sort of thing happening? I know there's quite a few figures they've originally skipped, but the bulk of a main line like this kept on hold for so long?

Honestly, I don't remember. I know Animated was held off because retailers wanted more movie toys. Thinking like Takara, outside of Sixshot they might feel the Headmaster line is done since most of the major characters have been released.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

The whole Transformers booth was not that big, admittedly, and they focused a lot on Godbomber, the TLK stuff, and then general showcases from the MP line and Prime 1 Studio. Maybe Legends is reaching towards its end, to make space for the movie year? Maybe a hiatus? I dunno, I'm just saying words.

Words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm. I can see Takara taking a break for the movie line, then coming back with their versions of the Wave 3 and 4 figures.

That's very strange to me. Is there precedence for this sort of thing happening? I know there's quite a few figures they've originally skipped, but the bulk of a main line like this kept on hold for so long?

Honestly, I don't remember. I know Animated was held off because retailers wanted more movie toys. Thinking like Takara, outside of Sixshot they might feel the Headmaster line is done since most of the major characters have been released.

I suppose... though also it would be odd of them to release Astrotrain and Blurr without giving us Blitzwing, Octane, Hot Rod and Kup. Those are a few pretty significant sets.

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

The whole Transformers booth was not that big, admittedly, and they focused a lot on Godbomber, the TLK stuff, and then general showcases from the MP line and Prime 1 Studio. Maybe Legends is reaching towards its end, to make space for the movie year? Maybe a hiatus? I dunno, I'm just saying words.

Words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm. I can see Takara taking a break for the movie line, then coming back with their versions of the Wave 3 and 4 figures.

That's very strange to me. Is there precedence for this sort of thing happening? I know there's quite a few figures they've originally skipped, but the bulk of a main line like this kept on hold for so long?

Honestly, I don't remember. I know Animated was held off because retailers wanted more movie toys. Thinking like Takara, outside of Sixshot they might feel the Headmaster line is done since most of the major characters have been released.

I suppose... though also it would be odd of them to release Astrotrain and Blurr without giving us Blitzwing, Octane, Hot Rod and Kup. Those are a few pretty significant sets.

Yes, but I also think it was odd of them to release the non-classic Headmasters.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Was this it for Wonderfest? If so that's incredibly disappointing. Takara hasn't shown a thing for the legends series besides the headmasters set for months. I really thought they were just saving stuff for this convention.

The whole Transformers booth was not that big, admittedly, and they focused a lot on Godbomber, the TLK stuff, and then general showcases from the MP line and Prime 1 Studio. Maybe Legends is reaching towards its end, to make space for the movie year? Maybe a hiatus? I dunno, I'm just saying words.

Words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm. I can see Takara taking a break for the movie line, then coming back with their versions of the Wave 3 and 4 figures.

That's very strange to me. Is there precedence for this sort of thing happening? I know there's quite a few figures they've originally skipped, but the bulk of a main line like this kept on hold for so long?

Honestly, I don't remember. I know Animated was held off because retailers wanted more movie toys. Thinking like Takara, outside of Sixshot they might feel the Headmaster line is done since most of the major characters have been released.

I suppose... though also it would be odd of them to release Astrotrain and Blurr without giving us Blitzwing, Octane, Hot Rod and Kup. Those are a few pretty significant sets.

Yes, but I also think it was odd of them to release the non-classic Headmasters.

Not necessarily - after all, these are major characters. They released Optimus Maximus and Sky Reign just fine and even added their own new Combiners-out-of-previously-non-combining-characters into the mix, so they seem pretty easy-going on gimmicks being added like that.

fenrir72 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:After all the stuff bought in 2016 I wouldn't mind a short hiatus.

Looking forward to the clones though.

Can Sixshot transform without removing the Titan Master?

Yes! Get him bro'/ Aside from the lack of ratchets on the knees, he's a great fig! Or maybe wait for the Takara version

Yeah, I think I'll wait to see what Takara does with him first.

Anybody else hoping Takara releases a gift set of the Insecticons with matching paint and weapons? I'd be happy if they just included three reflectors.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody else hoping Takara releases a gift set of the Insecticons with matching paint and weapons? I'd be happy if they just included three reflectors.

I'm definitely hoping for that. Maybe we could get a retool of Shrapnel and Bombshell to include transparent yellow cockpits to match Kickback as well?

I'm still debating on getting Hasbro Skullcruncher or Takara Skull. I already have Takara Weirdwolf and Wipe so I should just complete the set but man they look eerily similar.

Blurrz wrote:I'm still debating on getting Hasbro Skullcruncher or Takara Skull. I already have Takara Weirdwolf and Wipe so I should just complete the set but man they look eerily similar.

Get Takara's Skullcruncher. Their Headmaster face is much more media accurate. The Hasbro version has more toy accurate black optics, though they are rendered strangely as big bulging square eyes instead of a visor.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody else hoping Takara releases a gift set of the Insecticons with matching paint and weapons? I'd be happy if they just included three reflectors.

I'm definitely hoping for that. Maybe we could get a retool of Shrapnel and Bombshell to include transparent yellow cockpits to match Kickback as well?

I was thinking about that but realized it would require a lot of new tooling, I think Shrapnel's chest is part of the transformation for example. I don't think they ever released reflector so this would be a chance for them.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Blurrz wrote:I'm still debating on getting Hasbro Skullcruncher or Takara Skull. I already have Takara Weirdwolf and Wipe so I should just complete the set but man they look eerily similar.

Get Takara's Skullcruncher. Their Headmaster face is much more media accurate. The Hasbro version has more toy accurate black optics, though they are rendered strangely as big bulging square eyes instead of a visor.

Also, the beast's head has a red tongue and silver teeth.

Skull's Yummy Gummy Tongue

Cyberpath wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Blurrz wrote:I'm still debating on getting Hasbro Skullcruncher or Takara Skull. I already have Takara Weirdwolf and Wipe so I should just complete the set but man they look eerily similar.

Get Takara's Skullcruncher. Their Headmaster face is much more media accurate. The Hasbro version has more toy accurate black optics, though they are rendered strangely as big bulging square eyes instead of a visor.

Also, the beast's head has a red tongue and silver teeth.

I forgot about that detail. I love when Takara goes the extra mile for things like that. They gave Legends Weirdwolf the same premium deco for his maw and teeth. The extra paint work on the rhino mouth for Legends-EX Rhinox, by the way, is also superb!

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Blurrz wrote:I'm still debating on getting Hasbro Skullcruncher or Takara Skull. I already have Takara Weirdwolf and Wipe so I should just complete the set but man they look eerily similar.

Get Takara's Skullcruncher. Their Headmaster face is much more media accurate. The Hasbro version has more toy accurate black optics, though they are rendered strangely as big bulging square eyes instead of a visor.

Also, the beast's head has a red tongue and silver teeth.

I forgot about that detail. I love when Takara goes the extra mile for things like that. They gave Legends Weirdwolf the same premium deco for his maw and teeth. The extra paint work on the rhino mouth for Legends-EX Rhinox, by the way, is also superb!

It's not they did anything special with more paint for Skull: they simply removed the silver apps from the tongue as it's the same plastic as the cover. Krok has proven that.

Thank you all for reaffirming my expensive tastes

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Blurrz wrote:I'm still debating on getting Hasbro Skullcruncher or Takara Skull. I already have Takara Weirdwolf and Wipe so I should just complete the set but man they look eerily similar.

Get Takara's Skullcruncher. Their Headmaster face is much more media accurate. The Hasbro version has more toy accurate black optics, though they are rendered strangely as big bulging square eyes instead of a visor.

Also, the beast's head has a red tongue and silver teeth.

I forgot about that detail. I love when Takara goes the extra mile for things like that. They gave Legends Weirdwolf the same premium deco for his maw and teeth. The extra paint work on the rhino mouth for Legends-EX Rhinox, by the way, is also superb!

It's not they did anything special with more paint for Skull: they simply removed the silver apps from the tongue as it's the same plastic as the cover. Krok has proven that.

What do you mean?

Takara: red piece with painted silver teeth.

Hasbro: white piece and unpainted:

Blurrz wrote:Thank you all for reaffirming my expensive tastes

Blurrz wrote:I'm still debating on getting Hasbro Skullcruncher or Takara Skull. I already have Takara Weirdwolf and Wipe so I should just complete the set but man they look eerily similar.

Get the Takara if you are after anime accuracy.

So, uh, hey guys. Remember waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back on Page 80 when we got our first look (though, by now the pics are broken) at the packaging of the 2015 Legends LGEX Black Convoy (the Deluxe class RtS Optimus Prime redeco) and I pointed out the box's referring to Black Convoy's faction in English as "Predacon" instead of "Decepticon"?

No?

Well, it led to this very mild back-and-forth between me and JelZe, in which I tried to make a case for Takara having gone with "Decepticon" for Black Convoy's box than over making more sense than their going with "Predacon" would, but I conceded to JelZe's point about "Predacon" working fine since A) Black Convoy's original Car Robots toy still bore the "Destronger" faction name and B)"Destronger" was changed to "Predacon" in the English Robots in Disguise dub.

So, if I conceded back then, why am I digging this up again? Well, I recently learned something more about this that I didn't know before. JelZe's point about Black Convoy's original toy being labeled a Destronger has even more weight to this matter than I previously thought.

Basically, all of the bad guy toys in the original Car Robots line were Destrongers, including the Combatrons. But more importantly, what I learned recently is that the Destrongers, even back in 2000, were Beast Era Predacons! Not just by use of the symbol (as that could be, and has been, interpreted as just a mere reuse of the symbol), but there is actual Car Robots material from back then, the year 2000, that specifically states that the Destrongers belong to the very same faction that all of the Beast Era (non-Unicronian) bad guy toys belonged to: The Destrons.

Though the word "Destron" was originally just the Japanese name for "Decepticon", it was also used as the Japanese name for the Beast Era "Predacon" faction. And back in the year 2000, the word "Destron" was completely synonymous with "Predacon" when paired with the symbol. And that very symbol was also applied to the Destrongers.

The aforementioned material that links the Destrongers to the Destrons is none other than the Japanese bio of the Car Robots Gigatron toy:

Gigatron D-001
Destronger Dark God of Destruction
A god of destruction who rules the Destrongers, the elite forces of the cosmic devils the Destrons. As a top Destron soldier, he has participated in numerous battles over the years. Under those severe conditions, he gained the technology for his six step transformations.
10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10

There you have it. The Destrongers were Destrons all along, never their own unique faction (as the English Robots in Disguise dub would have us believe). Just a single platoon with a fancy name and which belonged to the greater-known faction of the time.

Were you aware of this, JelZe? It enhances your original point more than ever.

I was lightly aware of that, but given that bios hardly ever make it verbatim into the greater fiction I didn't really give it that much thought.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I was lightly aware of that, but given that bios hardly ever make it verbatim into the greater fiction I didn't really give it that much thought.

I see that as more true for Hasbro's bios than for Takara's.