Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line
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Thanks to JTPrime17, we have a wave breakdown of the 2024 Legacy Line, along with two listings for generations selects multipacks. While we know a commander class and titan class figure is coming next year, it is unknown which characters those are.
Tra Gen Legacy UNI Commander
Product Number: F8513
Tra Gen Legacy UNI Titan
Product Number: F8512
Wave 1: January 2024
Core Energon Megatron
Core BW Tasmanian Kid
Core Bouldercrash
Deluxe Animated Bumblebee
Deluxe Rescue Bots Chase
Deluxe Cyberverse Windblade
Deluxe Magneous
Voyager Prime Thundertron
Voyager Animated Optimus Prime
Leader BW Tigerhawk
Leader Optimus Prime
Wave 2: April 2024
Core BM Cheetor
Core BW Dinobot
Deluxe G1 Sureshot
Deluxe G1 Gears
Deluxe Cyberverse Chromia
Deluxe Rock 2
Voyager BW Silverbolt
Voyager Cybertron Starscream
Leader G1 Sandstorm
Wave 3: July 2024
Core Rock 3
Deluxe RID Sideburn
Deluxe Cybertron Hot Shot
Deluxe Rock 3
Deluxe Strongarm PR
Voyager Cybertron Vector Prime
Leader Armada Galvatron
Wave 4: October 2024
Core Energon Galvatron
Deluxe G1 Optimus Prime
Deluxe Slipstream
Deluxe G1 Quake
Voyager Animated Motormaster
Voyager Metalhawk PR
Leader Soundwave
Tra Gen Legacy UNI Commander
Product Number: F8513
Tra Gen Legacy UNI Titan
Product Number: F8512
Wave 1: January 2024
Core Energon Megatron
Core BW Tasmanian Kid
Core Bouldercrash
Deluxe Animated Bumblebee
Deluxe Rescue Bots Chase
Deluxe Cyberverse Windblade
Deluxe Magneous
Voyager Prime Thundertron
Voyager Animated Optimus Prime
Leader BW Tigerhawk
Leader Optimus Prime
Wave 2: April 2024
Core BM Cheetor
Core BW Dinobot
Deluxe G1 Sureshot
Deluxe G1 Gears
Deluxe Cyberverse Chromia
Deluxe Rock 2
Voyager BW Silverbolt
Voyager Cybertron Starscream
Leader G1 Sandstorm
Wave 3: July 2024
Core Rock 3
Deluxe RID Sideburn
Deluxe Cybertron Hot Shot
Deluxe Rock 3
Deluxe Strongarm PR
Voyager Cybertron Vector Prime
Leader Armada Galvatron
Wave 4: October 2024
Core Energon Galvatron
Deluxe G1 Optimus Prime
Deluxe Slipstream
Deluxe G1 Quake
Voyager Animated Motormaster
Voyager Metalhawk PR
Leader Soundwave
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Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167440)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:44am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:44am CDT
A Core Beast Machines Cheetor is very random.
these pre-war packs are pretty neat too
these pre-war packs are pretty neat too
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167443)
Posted by Spider5800 on August 25th, 2023 @ 9:18am CDT
Posted by Spider5800 on August 25th, 2023 @ 9:18am CDT
Welp, looks like the guy predicting that other character would be remolded into Tigerhawk was right.
Core BM Cheetor IS an odd choice though. Guess someone felt he needed to have a version in every size class imaginable. Maybe they'll keep Beast Machines tradition alive and make all the other characters, but in completely incorrect scales for each other (I'm guessing deluxe Primal, voyager Blackarachnia, leader Nightscream, and commander Rattrap, with a core class Tankor thrown in for a sole villain).
Excited to see how the voyager BW Silverbolt turns out, I never had one as a kid.
Core BM Cheetor IS an odd choice though. Guess someone felt he needed to have a version in every size class imaginable. Maybe they'll keep Beast Machines tradition alive and make all the other characters, but in completely incorrect scales for each other (I'm guessing deluxe Primal, voyager Blackarachnia, leader Nightscream, and commander Rattrap, with a core class Tankor thrown in for a sole villain).
Excited to see how the voyager BW Silverbolt turns out, I never had one as a kid.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167447)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 9:41am CDT
Huh?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 9:41am CDT
Spider5800 wrote:Welp, looks like the guy predicting that other character would be remolded into Tigerhawk was right.
Huh?
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167452)
Posted by Spider5800 on August 25th, 2023 @ 9:59am CDT
My bad, I was misremembering a quote from earlier in the thread, they were actually predicting Tigerhawk would be remolded into a different character.
I saw the leak rumor about Thundertron first, so must have just got it mixed up.
Posted by Spider5800 on August 25th, 2023 @ 9:59am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Spider5800 wrote:Welp, looks like the guy predicting that other character would be remolded into Tigerhawk was right.
Huh?
My bad, I was misremembering a quote from earlier in the thread, they were actually predicting Tigerhawk would be remolded into a different character.
sol magnus wrote:I think Thundertron is going to be a retool of Tigerhawk, and I will get it if it is.
I saw the leak rumor about Thundertron first, so must have just got it mixed up.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167458)
Posted by william-james88 on August 25th, 2023 @ 11:06am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 25th, 2023 @ 11:06am CDT
Thundertron and Tigerhawk won't be sharing the same mold.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167461)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:16pm CDT
I'm curious why Silverbolt is a voyager? Considering the original was a deluxe and he wasn't exactly a massive character in the show? 
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167464)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:36pm CDT
It's like it's 2021 all over again: size class does not equal height. My guess is it's going to go into the engineering, and both modes should have a sizeable wingspan. Whether he'll justify the voyager class price for fans is an open question, but I'm not surprised by the class in any event.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:36pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm curious why Silverbolt is a voyager? Considering the original was a deluxe and he wasn't exactly a massive character in the show?
It's like it's 2021 all over again: size class does not equal height. My guess is it's going to go into the engineering, and both modes should have a sizeable wingspan. Whether he'll justify the voyager class price for fans is an open question, but I'm not surprised by the class in any event.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167466)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:44pm CDT
Given his wingspan, I was hoping for a voyager
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:44pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm curious why Silverbolt is a voyager? Considering the original was a deluxe and he wasn't exactly a massive character in the show?
It's like it's 2021 all over again: size class does not equal height. My guess is it's going to go into the engineering, and both modes should have a sizeable wingspan. Whether he'll justify the voyager class price for fans is an open question, but I'm not surprised by the class in any event.
Given his wingspan, I was hoping for a voyager
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167467)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:44pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:44pm CDT
Height and mass for a medium sized character didn't necessitate a class change. He also isn't exactly an intricate figure/design in either mode. That needed extra size to be "fixed".
The wingspan wasn't a source of complaint for the deluxe figure. Only that there should have been a hinge to pivot the angle of the back kibble in bot mode.
The wingspan wasn't a source of complaint for the deluxe figure. Only that there should have been a hinge to pivot the angle of the back kibble in bot mode.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167469)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:52pm CDT
Maybe, maybe not. Why not wait to actually see the figure and decide if it's in the wrong class?
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:52pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Height and mass for a medium sized character didn't necessitate a class change. He also isn't exactly an intricate figure/design in either mode. That needed extra size to be "fixed".
The wingspan wasn't a source of complaint for the deluxe figure. Only that there should have been a hinge to pivot the angle of the back kibble in bot mode.
Maybe, maybe not. Why not wait to actually see the figure and decide if it's in the wrong class?
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167470)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:54pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:54pm CDT
I didn't say it was the "wrong class", like a child/fanboy. I queried why there was an upscale?
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167471)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:57pm CDT
I didn't call you a child or a fanboy, and I already said I don't know why it went up a size class. There are multiple generations figures who have changed class recently without being any taller, and it's generally reflected in the part count and engineering. Without seeing the figure, like I said before, I couldn't tell you if it was a good decision or not. But I think it's silly to automatically challenge it as undeserved when we haven't seen the toy yet.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:57pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I didn't say it was the "wrong class", like a child/fanboy. I queried why there was an upscale?
I didn't call you a child or a fanboy, and I already said I don't know why it went up a size class. There are multiple generations figures who have changed class recently without being any taller, and it's generally reflected in the part count and engineering. Without seeing the figure, like I said before, I couldn't tell you if it was a good decision or not. But I think it's silly to automatically challenge it as undeserved when we haven't seen the toy yet.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167472)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:59pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 12:59pm CDT
I have always considered Silverbolt a larger character, and I had always hoped he'd get a voyager grade toy.
For one thing, beast wars deluxes are not modern deluxes in any capacity, and to me compared to the recent beasts it feels small.
Some comparison pics. He is kneeling to be about the same height as Blackarachnia (deluxe), and he's about a head shorter than TM Megatron, who is of comparable height to his OG body, which got a Leader toy. And I would think Quickstrike would be a Cliffjumper-esque deluxe, so the scale would be good there too.
So voyager should fit him perfectly.
Also, I hope that a Windrazor repaint is in the cards for him. I hold a special place in my heart for him/them, and that is a character that also feels like it deserves a voyager size, given how he/they were formed.
For one thing, beast wars deluxes are not modern deluxes in any capacity, and to me compared to the recent beasts it feels small.
Some comparison pics. He is kneeling to be about the same height as Blackarachnia (deluxe), and he's about a head shorter than TM Megatron, who is of comparable height to his OG body, which got a Leader toy. And I would think Quickstrike would be a Cliffjumper-esque deluxe, so the scale would be good there too.
So voyager should fit him perfectly.
Also, I hope that a Windrazor repaint is in the cards for him. I hold a special place in my heart for him/them, and that is a character that also feels like it deserves a voyager size, given how he/they were formed.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167473)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:07pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:07pm CDT
^ Megatron was crouching for the "selfie", if you recall.
This is a more accurate depiction of his height. He is roughly as tall as Primal.
Hence the query. How to put this? His design was basic and simple. Four limbs, representing the same four Beast limbs. His crotch flap covers the bot body in Beast Mode. Beast head over bot head etc His design could easily be replicated in a core class figure. So parts count would be minimal. Similarly engineering isn't too dissimilar from other four legged Beast Bots.
This is a more accurate depiction of his height. He is roughly as tall as Primal.
AcademyofDrX wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I didn't say it was the "wrong class", like a child/fanboy. I queried why there was an upscale?
I didn't call you a child or a fanboy, and I already said I don't know why it went up a size class. There are multiple generations figures who have changed class recently without being any taller, and it's generally reflected in the part count and engineering.
Hence the query. How to put this? His design was basic and simple. Four limbs, representing the same four Beast limbs. His crotch flap covers the bot body in Beast Mode. Beast head over bot head etc His design could easily be replicated in a core class figure. So parts count would be minimal. Similarly engineering isn't too dissimilar from other four legged Beast Bots.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167477)
Posted by Spider5800 on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:46pm CDT
You can't really go off their toy sizes, at least not the first season characters. Blackarachnia was one of the smallest characters on the show, roughly the same height as Rattrap, but her toy was like twice Rattrap's toy height. Meanwhile, Terrorsaur was one of the taller Predacons, but had the smallest toy of all of them.
Silverbolt in the show was slightly shorter than Transmetal Primal, which makes sense as a large deluxe or a short voyager, since Primal got slightly bigger when he was upgraded and Transmetal Megatron is still roughly leader size.
Interestingly, Transmetal 2 Dinobot should also be leader class at that scale, and everyone bigger than that probably makes more sense at commander, which is kind of nuts.
Posted by Spider5800 on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:46pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I have always considered Silverbolt a larger character, and I had always hoped he'd get a voyager grade toy.
For one thing, beast wars deluxes are not modern deluxes in any capacity, and to me compared to the recent beasts it feels small.
Some comparison pics. He is kneeling to be about the same height as Blackarachnia (deluxe), and he's about a head shorter than TM Megatron, who is of comparable height to his OG body, which got a Leader toy. And I would think Quickstrike would be a Cliffjumper-esque deluxe, so the scale would be good there too.
You can't really go off their toy sizes, at least not the first season characters. Blackarachnia was one of the smallest characters on the show, roughly the same height as Rattrap, but her toy was like twice Rattrap's toy height. Meanwhile, Terrorsaur was one of the taller Predacons, but had the smallest toy of all of them.
Silverbolt in the show was slightly shorter than Transmetal Primal, which makes sense as a large deluxe or a short voyager, since Primal got slightly bigger when he was upgraded and Transmetal Megatron is still roughly leader size.
Interestingly, Transmetal 2 Dinobot should also be leader class at that scale, and everyone bigger than that probably makes more sense at commander, which is kind of nuts.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167478)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:51pm CDT
Since MP Blackarachnia has already been released. I hope this is addressed with MP Rattrap.
One of the reasons it is highly doubtful the TM line will appear in the Masterpiece collection.
I don't think I ever noticed that TM2 Blackarachnia was still that small
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:51pm CDT
Spider5800 wrote: Blackarachnia was one of the smallest characters on the show, roughly the same height as Rattrap, but her toy was like twice Rattrap's toy height.
Since MP Blackarachnia has already been released. I hope this is addressed with MP Rattrap.
Spider5800 wrote:
Interestingly, Transmetal 2 Dinobot should also be leader class at that scale, and everyone bigger than that probably makes more sense at commander, which is kind of nuts.
One of the reasons it is highly doubtful the TM line will appear in the Masterpiece collection.
I don't think I ever noticed that TM2 Blackarachnia was still that small
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167479)
Posted by Spider5800 on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:56pm CDT
Yep, her toy was the equivalent of a voyager today (think it was called mega class at the time?), so a lot of people misremember her getting huge in the show, but she was still the same height.
Posted by Spider5800 on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:56pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:One of the reasons it is highly doubtful the TM line will appear in the Masterpiece collection.
I don't think I ever noticed that TM2 Blackarachnia was still that small
Yep, her toy was the equivalent of a voyager today (think it was called mega class at the time?), so a lot of people misremember her getting huge in the show, but she was still the same height.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167480)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:58pm CDT
With the number of parts she has, TM Blackie would be sold as a LEADER if reissued today.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 25th, 2023 @ 1:58pm CDT
Spider5800 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:One of the reasons it is highly doubtful the TM line will appear in the Masterpiece collection.
I don't think I ever noticed that TM2 Blackarachnia was still that small
Yep, her toy was the equivalent of a voyager today (think it was called mega class at the time?), so a lot of people misremember her getting huge in the show, but she was still the same height.
With the number of parts she has, TM Blackie would be sold as a LEADER if reissued today.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167487)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 3:51pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 3:51pm CDT
That odd Deluxe G1 Optimus being a Wave 4 release makes it even more strange, considering that implies it's a retool like Slipstream likely is (unless Quake isn't a new mold?).
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167488)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 3:54pm CDT
Even funnier when you consider:
1) 2024 wave 1 leader Prime is rumored to be a new mold, of what Prime no one is really sure
2) Bulkhead was supposed to be retooled into an Optimus Prime, but that hasn't happened yet
3) I'm not sure there is a good mold for an Optimus to be retooled from at the deluxe price.
Unless.....hear me out.....
We are getting G2 Gobots Prime from sideswipe officially
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 3:54pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:That odd Deluxe G1 Optimus being a Wave 4 release makes it even more strange, considering that implies it's a retool like Slipstream likely is (unless Quake isn't a new mold?).
Even funnier when you consider:
1) 2024 wave 1 leader Prime is rumored to be a new mold, of what Prime no one is really sure
2) Bulkhead was supposed to be retooled into an Optimus Prime, but that hasn't happened yet
3) I'm not sure there is a good mold for an Optimus to be retooled from at the deluxe price.
Unless.....hear me out.....
We are getting G2 Gobots Prime from sideswipe officially
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167489)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 25th, 2023 @ 3:57pm CDT
If this is not one more
MOTHER
FUKKING
HARD TO GET EXCLUSIVE
And a MAINLINE toy for once, I'd be all over it.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 25th, 2023 @ 3:57pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:We are getting G2 Gobots Prime from sideswipe officially
If this is not one more
MOTHER
FUKKING
HARD TO GET EXCLUSIVE
And a MAINLINE toy for once, I'd be all over it.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167491)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 4:15pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 4:15pm CDT
But then it wouldn't exactly fit the description of "G1 Optimus", and thusly the confusion continues.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Unless.....hear me out.....
We are getting G2 Gobots Prime from sideswipe officially
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167497)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 25th, 2023 @ 7:22pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 25th, 2023 @ 7:22pm CDT
I'm most excited for tigerhawk and silverbolt, I'm glad the latter is a voyager! I want nice wings!
I'm also looking forward to Tasmanian kid, windblade, slipstream, Sandstorm, and the rock-bots. I hope vector Prime and the animated Bumblebee & Optimus Prime are cool too
I hope leader Soundwave is Prime universe or idw or something. If its g1 then ill still get it because I adore Soundwave but still
Thundertron is confusing me. There's am upcoming voyager AND a leaked Walmart leader class. So which one will I want? Haha because I'm getting that character one way or another
I'm also looking forward to Tasmanian kid, windblade, slipstream, Sandstorm, and the rock-bots. I hope vector Prime and the animated Bumblebee & Optimus Prime are cool too
I hope leader Soundwave is Prime universe or idw or something. If its g1 then ill still get it because I adore Soundwave but still
Thundertron is confusing me. There's am upcoming voyager AND a leaked Walmart leader class. So which one will I want? Haha because I'm getting that character one way or another
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167499)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 25th, 2023 @ 7:30pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 25th, 2023 @ 7:30pm CDT
If the next capsule will be mayhem themed, any chance Bludgeon will be released in that line? Mayhaps with a remolded chest?
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167500)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 25th, 2023 @ 7:51pm CDT
There's always a chance. How many versions of Impactor did we get including retailer exclusives, including with an alternate head in one. That said, I would much rather see any of the other members, especially the many that haven't shown up in Generations recently. Maybe this is how we get some more Deluxe Insecticons?
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 25th, 2023 @ 7:51pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:If the next capsule will be mayhem themed, any chance Bludgeon will be released in that line? Mayhaps with a remolded chest?
There's always a chance. How many versions of Impactor did we get including retailer exclusives, including with an alternate head in one. That said, I would much rather see any of the other members, especially the many that haven't shown up in Generations recently. Maybe this is how we get some more Deluxe Insecticons?
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167501)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 25th, 2023 @ 7:57pm CDT
I'm hoping for different characters as well, I already have legacy bludgeon on preorder and I wouldn't want to double dip if the other one looks better
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 25th, 2023 @ 7:57pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:If the next capsule will be mayhem themed, any chance Bludgeon will be released in that line? Mayhaps with a remolded chest?
There's always a chance. How many versions of Impactor did we get including retailer exclusives, including with an alternate head in one. That said, I would much rather see any of the other members, especially the many that haven't shown up in Generations recently. Maybe this is how we get some more Deluxe Insecticons?
I'm hoping for different characters as well, I already have legacy bludgeon on preorder and I wouldn't want to double dip if the other one looks better
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167502)
Posted by LinaNui on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:06pm CDT
Sorry to drag this back up. Megatron has a misassembly in his knees. I believe this is the cause to him leaning back.
Posted by LinaNui on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:06pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Megatron was one I was really excited for, but for some reason, he has a really bad lean backwards and I can't figure out why. It feels like it's in his heels, but they are flat and level. I dunno. he's hard to stand in a neutral pose.
Sorry to drag this back up. Megatron has a misassembly in his knees. I believe this is the cause to him leaning back.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167503)
Posted by LinaNui on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:19pm CDT
Posted by LinaNui on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:19pm CDT
The sniper duel and Nacelle amazon sets have updated to release on 8/26! My ship dates still say 10/1, but hopefully that changes soon! Super pumped for these. Hopefully Nova isn't to far behind.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167504)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:41pm CDT
Thanks to the "backflip bump" because of the new poster, I could post this to ask for...
At least ONE Kiss Players reference. The easiest thing would be to repaint/remold the deluxe ER Prowl as Autorooper. And please include a little Atari figure ON SCALE with him.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:41pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Legacy would be a great format for a Transformers anthology series. One off episodes or mini series based on the lesser known/explored parts of the franchise. Transtech, Machine Wars, Marvel Run, Dreamwave, Devil's Due, IDW etc The comics have all had at least one story that would be really cool to see in motion. Giving a proper finale to the cancelled projects too EG Animated.
The line already exists to support the show, after all.
Thanks to the "backflip bump" because of the new poster, I could post this to ask for...
At least ONE Kiss Players reference. The easiest thing would be to repaint/remold the deluxe ER Prowl as Autorooper. And please include a little Atari figure ON SCALE with him.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167506)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:58pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 25th, 2023 @ 8:58pm CDT
Didn't they include that Autotrooper head as an alt head for the Animated one in the Buzzworthy Troop set?-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Legacy would be a great format for a Transformers anthology series. One off episodes or mini series based on the lesser known/explored parts of the franchise. Transtech, Machine Wars, Marvel Run, Dreamwave, Devil's Due, IDW etc The comics have all had at least one story that would be really cool to see in motion. Giving a proper finale to the cancelled projects too EG Animated.
The line already exists to support the show, after all.
Thanks to the "backflip bump" because of the new poster, I could post this to ask for...
At least ONE Kiss Players reference. The easiest thing would be to repaint/remold the deluxe ER Prowl as Autorooper. And please include a little Atari figure ON SCALE with him.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167507)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 25th, 2023 @ 9:04pm CDT
There will be an Autorooper in the next BWBB 4 pack, but it will be based on the Siege Ironhide figure. So it doesn't really count.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 25th, 2023 @ 9:04pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:Didn't they include that Autotrooper head as an alt head for the Animated one in the Buzzworthy Troop set?
There will be an Autorooper in the next BWBB 4 pack, but it will be based on the Siege Ironhide figure. So it doesn't really count.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167512)
Posted by Emerje on August 26th, 2023 @ 2:54am CDT
Two thing:
There's no indication that he's being up scaled just because he's being up classed. This could easily (and likely) be the same situation as SS86 Voyager Ironhide who is actually shorter than the WFC Deluxe figures.
Second, what you described isn't how Silverbolt transforms, his actual transformation requires folding the wolf head down to form the torso, folding the front legs down to form the bot leg and crotch, and swinging the back legs forward to finish the torso and form the arms. A Core couldn't do all that. I imagine they'll also go for cartoon accuracy and make it so the wings can fold on his back instead of sit on his shoulders which the original couldn't do due to his action feature.
(edit: fixed a word)
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 26th, 2023 @ 2:54am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I didn't say it was the "wrong class", like a child/fanboy. I queried why there was an upscale?
I didn't call you a child or a fanboy, and I already said I don't know why it went up a size class. There are multiple generations figures who have changed class recently without being any taller, and it's generally reflected in the part count and engineering.
Hence the query. How to put this? His design was basic and simple. Four limbs, representing the same four Beast limbs. His crotch flap covers the bot body in Beast Mode. Beast head over bot head etc His design could easily be replicated in a core class figure. So parts count would be minimal. Similarly engineering isn't too dissimilar from other four legged Beast Bots.
Two thing:
There's no indication that he's being up scaled just because he's being up classed. This could easily (and likely) be the same situation as SS86 Voyager Ironhide who is actually shorter than the WFC Deluxe figures.
Second, what you described isn't how Silverbolt transforms, his actual transformation requires folding the wolf head down to form the torso, folding the front legs down to form the bot leg and crotch, and swinging the back legs forward to finish the torso and form the arms. A Core couldn't do all that. I imagine they'll also go for cartoon accuracy and make it so the wings can fold on his back instead of sit on his shoulders which the original couldn't do due to his action feature.
(edit: fixed a word)
Emerje
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167513)
Posted by TK415 on August 26th, 2023 @ 6:39am CDT
Posted by TK415 on August 26th, 2023 @ 6:39am CDT
Which characters do you think the commander and titan will be?
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167522)
Posted by o.supreme on August 26th, 2023 @ 10:56am CDT
Commander I strongly believe will be Armada Tidal Wave. Titan - I honestly have no idea. Some have speculated since the Quintesson corkscrew ship from TF:TM has appeared in some artwork, that may be a guess. But since it really isn't as iconic as the Ark or Nemesis, It's not really something I would want, not sure if the fandom really has been asking either.
At this point, the fact that neither we, nor insiders, have any clue what the Titan for the 2024 main Generations line will be, has me slightly excited.
As for all the most recent leaks... I guess the idea about doing another wreckers capsule on Amazon isn't happening. I just want a Diaclone colored Topspin to go with my Twintwist.
Posted by o.supreme on August 26th, 2023 @ 10:56am CDT
TK415 wrote:Which characters do you think the commander and titan will be?
Commander I strongly believe will be Armada Tidal Wave. Titan - I honestly have no idea. Some have speculated since the Quintesson corkscrew ship from TF:TM has appeared in some artwork, that may be a guess. But since it really isn't as iconic as the Ark or Nemesis, It's not really something I would want, not sure if the fandom really has been asking either.
At this point, the fact that neither we, nor insiders, have any clue what the Titan for the 2024 main Generations line will be, has me slightly excited.
As for all the most recent leaks... I guess the idea about doing another wreckers capsule on Amazon isn't happening. I just want a Diaclone colored Topspin to go with my Twintwist.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167523)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 26th, 2023 @ 11:01am CDT
I would love the corkscrew ship, but I'm sure it would be a nightmare to engineer. I would like a Junkion ship too, but that's even less iconic.
I'm convinced sooner than later Hasbro will take another stab at a G1 Metroplex, and an obvious Selects redeco opportunity adds an extra benefit. It's been a full ten years since the last one, not counting the later reissue, so I think the time is right.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 26th, 2023 @ 11:01am CDT
o.supreme wrote:TK415 wrote:Which characters do you think the commander and titan will be?
Commander I strongly believe will be Armada Tidal Wave. Titan - I honestly have no idea. Some have speculated since the Quintesson corkscrew ship from TF:TM has appeared in some artwork, that may be a guess. But since it really isn't as iconic as the Ark or Nemesis, It's not really something I would want, not sure if the fandom really has been asking either.
At this point, the fact that neither we, nor insiders, have any clue what the Titan for the 2024 main Generations line will be, has me slightly excited.
As for all the most recent leaks... I guess the idea about doing another wreckers capsule on Amazon isn't happening. I just want a Diaclone colored Topspin to go with my Twintwist.
I would love the corkscrew ship, but I'm sure it would be a nightmare to engineer. I would like a Junkion ship too, but that's even less iconic.
I'm convinced sooner than later Hasbro will take another stab at a G1 Metroplex, and an obvious Selects redeco opportunity adds an extra benefit. It's been a full ten years since the last one, not counting the later reissue, so I think the time is right.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167524)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 26th, 2023 @ 11:11am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 26th, 2023 @ 11:11am CDT
Maybe it'll be a mayhem twin twist that was captured and brainwashed or something lol
No chance of tidal wave being a small Titan with a lot of parts count?
No chance of tidal wave being a small Titan with a lot of parts count?
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167525)
Posted by Emerje on August 26th, 2023 @ 11:27am CDT
That can only mean one thing. Titan Class Optimus Prime!
About the leaks, I haven't noticed anyone commenting on the fact that we're getting two Thundertrons next year (aside from saying the Legacy figure isn't a retooled Tigerhawk). Not only that, they aren't the same class!
Voyager Prime Thundertron
Tra Gen Legacy Star Seekers Leader Thundertron
So what could that mean about the Star Seekers Thundertron? It would be very disappointing if the Legacy version is a retooled Leo Prime and the Leader version is a repainted Tigerhawk. I could see the Voyager being a new figure, but not both.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 26th, 2023 @ 11:27am CDT
o.supreme wrote:At this point, the fact that neither we, nor insiders, have any clue what the Titan for the 2024 main Generations line will be, has me slightly excited.
That can only mean one thing. Titan Class Optimus Prime!
About the leaks, I haven't noticed anyone commenting on the fact that we're getting two Thundertrons next year (aside from saying the Legacy figure isn't a retooled Tigerhawk). Not only that, they aren't the same class!
Voyager Prime Thundertron
Tra Gen Legacy Star Seekers Leader Thundertron
So what could that mean about the Star Seekers Thundertron? It would be very disappointing if the Legacy version is a retooled Leo Prime and the Leader version is a repainted Tigerhawk. I could see the Voyager being a new figure, but not both.
Emerje
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167527)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 26th, 2023 @ 11:53am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 26th, 2023 @ 11:53am CDT
As mentioned previously, it doesn't really make sense for tigerhawk and thundertron to share a mold (though who knows at this point). I'd be bummed if they make thundertron out of the Leo Prime mold, that doesn't really fit either
I'm wondering if the leader version will be the same as the voyager but with more accessories? Or a bonus core class figure? Maybe the leaks aren't completely accurate with the size classes or something
I'm wondering if the leader version will be the same as the voyager but with more accessories? Or a bonus core class figure? Maybe the leaks aren't completely accurate with the size classes or something
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167528)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 26th, 2023 @ 12:25pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 26th, 2023 @ 12:25pm CDT
Some extremely important tidbits that I found out about both my Leo Prime and his Nemesis version.
1) For both, there shouldn't be any "visible bot head syndrome" in lion mode. The head is inside a shell that can be pulled down, then rotated do make the lion's belly. I never watched any video reviews nor looked at the instructions so....
2) Leo Prime isn't missing any guns. It's Nemesis Leo who come with two extras.
That is all.
1) For both, there shouldn't be any "visible bot head syndrome" in lion mode. The head is inside a shell that can be pulled down, then rotated do make the lion's belly. I never watched any video reviews nor looked at the instructions so....
2) Leo Prime isn't missing any guns. It's Nemesis Leo who come with two extras.
That is all.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167530)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 26th, 2023 @ 12:36pm CDT
Don't care, it's just a guess/wishful thinking.
I am hoping machine wars
Thanks! I will need to look at that tomorrow night
Yep, snipers and Nacelle all moved up, dang! I wanted that one to stick to October!
To Hasbro, it will, and to be honest, I think the fact that *anything* Kiss Players is happening is wild.
Tidal Wave Commander (though i would prefer Titan) and Titan Iaconus are my guesses/hopes.
Anyways, Armada Prime is the figure of the year, no doubt.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 26th, 2023 @ 12:36pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:But then it wouldn't exactly fit the description of "G1 Optimus", and thusly the confusion continues.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Unless.....hear me out.....
We are getting G2 Gobots Prime from sideswipe officially
Don't care, it's just a guess/wishful thinking.
Razorbeast88 wrote:I hope leader Soundwave is Prime universe or idw or something. If its g1 then ill still get it because I adore Soundwave but still
I am hoping machine wars
LinaNui wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Megatron was one I was really excited for, but for some reason, he has a really bad lean backwards and I can't figure out why. It feels like it's in his heels, but they are flat and level. I dunno. he's hard to stand in a neutral pose.
Sorry to drag this back up. Megatron has a misassembly in his knees. I believe this is the cause to him leaning back.
Thanks! I will need to look at that tomorrow night
LinaNui wrote:The sniper duel and Nacelle amazon sets have updated to release on 8/26! My ship dates still say 10/1, but hopefully that changes soon! Super pumped for these. Hopefully Nova isn't to far behind.
Yep, snipers and Nacelle all moved up, dang! I wanted that one to stick to October!
-Kanrabat- wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Didn't they include that Autotrooper head as an alt head for the Animated one in the Buzzworthy Troop set?
There will be an Autorooper in the next BWBB 4 pack, but it will be based on the Siege Ironhide figure. So it doesn't really count.
To Hasbro, it will, and to be honest, I think the fact that *anything* Kiss Players is happening is wild.
TK415 wrote:Which characters do you think the commander and titan will be?
Tidal Wave Commander (though i would prefer Titan) and Titan Iaconus are my guesses/hopes.
Anyways, Armada Prime is the figure of the year, no doubt.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167532)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 26th, 2023 @ 1:07pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 26th, 2023 @ 1:07pm CDT
"Armada Optimus, TF of the year."
Unless something mind-blowing come out before December 31st, Armada Optimus Prime is a very, very strong contender.
Unless something mind-blowing come out before December 31st, Armada Optimus Prime is a very, very strong contender.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167533)
Posted by TK415 on August 26th, 2023 @ 1:54pm CDT
Posted by TK415 on August 26th, 2023 @ 1:54pm CDT
Right, I forgot, likely Tidal Wave. Thanks Supreme and Primal!
I wonder if they will go with Supreme Starscream from Transformers Cybertron.
Does RID have a Titan?
or
Animated Omega Supreme from the Ark. That would make sense with Animated figures coming out.
I wonder if they will go with Supreme Starscream from Transformers Cybertron.
Does RID have a Titan?
or
Animated Omega Supreme from the Ark. That would make sense with Animated figures coming out.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167535)
Posted by Burn on August 26th, 2023 @ 3:49pm CDT
Posted by Burn on August 26th, 2023 @ 3:49pm CDT
Plot twist ... Titan Class Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167537)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 26th, 2023 @ 3:57pm CDT
BTW, I once owned the damn thing just for kicks. I paid around 20$can for it. Complete and unbroken. Damn, it was.... interesting....
I dumped it soon after at my local geek store to get in store credit.... 40$can!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 26th, 2023 @ 3:57pm CDT
Burn wrote:Plot twist ... Titan Class Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
BTW, I once owned the damn thing just for kicks. I paid around 20$can for it. Complete and unbroken. Damn, it was.... interesting....
I dumped it soon after at my local geek store to get in store credit.... 40$can!
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167540)
Posted by Burn on August 26th, 2023 @ 4:26pm CDT
When I first moved into my townhouse and was setting the collection up, I put him on the top shelf, not because he's a top shelf Transformer, but because I wouldn't be looking that high to see the piece of shit. Anyway, his tail fell off and fell down the back of the bookcase. I didn't care, I knew it was there.
Years passed and I moved from the townhouse to a proper sized house which meant moving the collection. When I moved the bookcase, there was the tail. Before putting it back on display I transformed it, just to remind myself how crap it is, then put it back into beast mode and again, put it on the top shelf, and again, the tail fell off.
I don't really hate Transformer designs, some I'll simply dislike, but Supreme Class Cheetor is an absolute piece of shit but I can't bring myself to part with it, because it actually looks good in beast mode, even without a tail.
I pity the poor bastard who bought that thing after you sold it, even at $20CAN that was too much to pay.
Posted by Burn on August 26th, 2023 @ 4:26pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Burn wrote:Plot twist ... Titan Class Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
BTW, I once owned the damn thing just for kicks. I paid around 20$can for it. Complete and unbroken. Damn, it was.... interesting....
I dumped it soon after at my local geek store to get in store credit.... 40$can!
When I first moved into my townhouse and was setting the collection up, I put him on the top shelf, not because he's a top shelf Transformer, but because I wouldn't be looking that high to see the piece of shit. Anyway, his tail fell off and fell down the back of the bookcase. I didn't care, I knew it was there.
Years passed and I moved from the townhouse to a proper sized house which meant moving the collection. When I moved the bookcase, there was the tail. Before putting it back on display I transformed it, just to remind myself how crap it is, then put it back into beast mode and again, put it on the top shelf, and again, the tail fell off.
I don't really hate Transformer designs, some I'll simply dislike, but Supreme Class Cheetor is an absolute piece of shit but I can't bring myself to part with it, because it actually looks good in beast mode, even without a tail.
I pity the poor bastard who bought that thing after you sold it, even at $20CAN that was too much to pay.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167544)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 26th, 2023 @ 5:59pm CDT
If I remember, the store priced it at around 70$can plus 15% in sale taxes and guess what... it only took him just a few weeks to sell it!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 26th, 2023 @ 5:59pm CDT
Burn wrote:
I pity the poor bastard who bought that thing after you sold it, even at $20CAN that was too much to pay.
If I remember, the store priced it at around 70$can plus 15% in sale taxes and guess what... it only took him just a few weeks to sell it!
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167547)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 26th, 2023 @ 6:36pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 26th, 2023 @ 6:36pm CDT
I think we're forgetting with inflation the 2024 Titan could very well be that Missing Link Optimus Prime.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167553)
Posted by Emerje on August 26th, 2023 @ 7:49pm CDT
If that were the case then Hasbro wouldn't be selling them on Pulse for $120 right now.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 26th, 2023 @ 7:49pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think we're forgetting with inflation the 2024 Titan could very well be that Missing Link Optimus Prime.
If that were the case then Hasbro wouldn't be selling them on Pulse for $120 right now.
Emerje
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167557)
Posted by Dark Starscream on August 27th, 2023 @ 7:25am CDT
Devcon is my pick. Man, this guy looks like he stepped right out of the TV.
Posted by Dark Starscream on August 27th, 2023 @ 7:25am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:"Armada Optimus, TF of the year."
Unless something mind-blowing come out before December 31st, Armada Optimus Prime is a very, very strong contender.
Devcon is my pick. Man, this guy looks like he stepped right out of the TV.
Re: Wave Breakdown of 2024 Transformers Legacy Line (2167558)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 27th, 2023 @ 7:28am CDT
My money is still on Maudlin Prime.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 27th, 2023 @ 7:28am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think we're forgetting with inflation the 2024 Titan could very well be that Missing Link Optimus Prime.
My money is still on Maudlin Prime.
