Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Devastator: The Gestalt

Woah, the mean green machine's got ankle tilts even in Combined Mode!

Edit: Holy Poorly Optimized Videoplayer Batman! This is a nightmare to watch. I've gotten as far as Hook on top of Long Haul's Shoulders and the thing has given out completely.

It still won't load for me and at this point. I'm fine. I'll wait for a legit review or hell, wait the toy itself not be spoiled

That confirms it. Whether you're a reviewer from the US, or a review from China, you're gonna have shaky "ETR" (Epileptic Transformers Reviewer) syndrome.

So far, I am very impressed with the engineering to this toy, especially the joints. Very elegant solutions to this combiner. Too bad about the forearm kibble (the biggest disappointment to this set besides Mixmaster's "alt mode") - could have made it so that the treads of Bonecrusher and Scavenger forms Devastator's forearms like TFC's Hercules.

Super Megatron wrote:That confirms it. Whether you're a reviewer from the US, or a review from China, you're gonna have shaky "ETR" (Epileptic Transformers Reviewer) syndrome.

So far, I am very impressed with the engineering to this toy, especially the joints. Very elegant solutions to this combiner. Too bad about the forearm kibble (the biggest disappointment to this set besides Mixmaster's "alt mode") - could have made it so that the treads of Bonecrusher and Scavenger forms Devastator's forearms like TFC's Hercules.

Ah, but THEN you'd have G1 purists and Classics collectors complaining about that not being how it was, just like Mixmaster. It's the fraggin' Kobayashi Maroon of Transformers!

Shuttershock wrote:

Super Megatron wrote:That confirms it. Whether you're a reviewer from the US, or a review from China, you're gonna have shaky "ETR" (Epileptic Transformers Reviewer) syndrome.

So far, I am very impressed with the engineering to this toy, especially the joints. Very elegant solutions to this combiner. Too bad about the forearm kibble (the biggest disappointment to this set besides Mixmaster's "alt mode") - could have made it so that the treads of Bonecrusher and Scavenger forms Devastator's forearms like TFC's Hercules.

Ah, but THEN you'd have G1 purists and Classics collectors complaining about that not being how it was, just like Mixmaster. It's the fraggin' Kobayashi Maroon of Transformers!

I'm a classics only collector and I am all about this toy. I said before I have Maketoys green giant but I am all about this guy. I'm not someone who complains and screams "hastak is crap and doesn't give us good stuff and 3rd parties are the way to go!"

It's amazing that after 9 years were still getting G1 modernized toys because they really don't have be giving us that stuff They could be just focusing on movie and RID stuff but they're not. I'm just thankful they're doing stuff like this.

Random, I've been saying that since Wave 1 of Classics hit the shelf

Not sure if I did the links right, this is the first time I've tried sharing anything like that here; but, here are mirrored YouTube videos I found.

Having seen these reviews, I'm all-in on Devy now. The transformations are simple but intricate enough, the articulation on the individual bots is impressive given the sacrifices they had to make, and I can deal with the lack of good elbows on Scrapper and Long Haul. BRING HIM ON!

shajaki wrote:Random, I've been saying that since Wave 1 of Classics hit the shelf

I'm honestly not that bugged by devastators "flaws". So what if scrapper doesn't have elbows or long haul is stocky. 90% of the time he'll be in combine mode

Randomhero wrote:

shajaki wrote:Random, I've been saying that since Wave 1 of Classics hit the shelf

I'm honestly not that bugged by devastators "flaws". So what if scrapper doesn't have elbows or long haul is stocky. 90% of the time he'll be in combine mode

exaclty its samething as leader lutra magnus legs are hollow on his back side who puts there transformers on shelf looking at there backside as someone buy combiner not to be put on shelf in combined not many people put there combiner bots on shelf in single bot forms unless its to save space.


thank you iphone not able play video have to play it on home computer

Randomhero wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Super Megatron wrote:That confirms it. Whether you're a reviewer from the US, or a review from China, you're gonna have shaky "ETR" (Epileptic Transformers Reviewer) syndrome.

So far, I am very impressed with the engineering to this toy, especially the joints. Very elegant solutions to this combiner. Too bad about the forearm kibble (the biggest disappointment to this set besides Mixmaster's "alt mode") - could have made it so that the treads of Bonecrusher and Scavenger forms Devastator's forearms like TFC's Hercules.

Ah, but THEN you'd have G1 purists and Classics collectors complaining about that not being how it was, just like Mixmaster. It's the fraggin' Kobayashi Maroon of Transformers!

I'm a classics only collector and I am all about this toy. I said before I have Maketoys green giant but I am all about this guy. I'm not someone who complains and screams "hastak is crap and doesn't give us good stuff and 3rd parties are the way to go!"

It's amazing that after 9 years were still getting G1 modernized toys because they really don't have be giving us that stuff They could be just focusing on movie and RID stuff but they're not. I'm just thankful they're doing stuff like this.

Keep in mind, the CHUG line is supposed to draw in the more hardcore, diehard G1/G2/MW/BW/BM/RID2001/A/E/C/Ani/Prime/RID2015/DW/IDW fans. There is NO WAY Hasbro/Takara would let that big fish swim away.

About this new Mixmaster - it just seem like they could had picked a better alt mode choice. It just seem like a lazy choice on their part when a typical front ender looks like these:







It doesn't look like any of that at all. With Devastator's foot sticking out like that, it made the effort all the more lazy.

Super Megatron wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Super Megatron wrote:That confirms it. Whether you're a reviewer from the US, or a review from China, you're gonna have shaky "ETR" (Epileptic Transformers Reviewer) syndrome.

So far, I am very impressed with the engineering to this toy, especially the joints. Very elegant solutions to this combiner. Too bad about the forearm kibble (the biggest disappointment to this set besides Mixmaster's "alt mode") - could have made it so that the treads of Bonecrusher and Scavenger forms Devastator's forearms like TFC's Hercules.

Ah, but THEN you'd have G1 purists and Classics collectors complaining about that not being how it was, just like Mixmaster. It's the fraggin' Kobayashi Maroon of Transformers!

I'm a classics only collector and I am all about this toy. I said before I have Maketoys green giant but I am all about this guy. I'm not someone who complains and screams "hastak is crap and doesn't give us good stuff and 3rd parties are the way to go!"

It's amazing that after 9 years were still getting G1 modernized toys because they really don't have be giving us that stuff They could be just focusing on movie and RID stuff but they're not. I'm just thankful they're doing stuff like this.

Keep in mind, the CHUG line is supposed to draw in the more hardcore, diehard G1/G2/MW/BW/BM/RID2001/A/E/C/Ani/Prime/RID2015/DW/IDW fans. There is NO WAY Hasbro/Takara would let that big fish swim away.

About this new Mixmaster - it just seem like they could had picked a better alt mode choice. It just seem like a lazy choice on their part when a typical front ender looks like these:







It doesn't look like any of that at all. With Devastator's foot sticking out like that, it made the effort all the more lazy.

Lol I didn't know Mixmaster was a real vehicle! XD

If you quote a post that has lots of images in it, please snip out the images.
And preferably any quoted content that doesn't relate to what you're replying to.

Anyway yes, barrel-forward cement trucks are a thing. We talked about this 80 pages ago, so you have no excuse for not knowing this. [/joke]

Having now watched the videos, That Devastator is a lot more well designed and intricate than I ever anticipated. Every combiner joint is well fastened, everything is really well engineered, and this thing just looks like such a great job. I am giving Hasbro a fist bump for this one so far. Once one of reviewers I watch and can understand reviews this, I can give a better opinion, but these videos made Devastator look amazing. Well Done!
PS: Anyone else remember that guy who saw Devastator at some foreign toy fair and said we was nothing to be excited about, that he was crap, and said similar things about Defensor? I think that guy has extremely high standards. He needs a chill pill man, cause both of those guys look amazing

Who are these people that keep getting their hands on CW Devy?!

Looks like Aus is getting Devy on the 22nd of this month via Big W's toy sale. There's some chatter on the Otca forums that it'll be sub Au$200

This Devy photo-blitz sire is weakening me. I like him the more I see him, especially when he's with MP's

shajaki wrote:Who are these people that keep getting their hands on CW Devy?!

I wish these people, instead of taking stupid pictures, would actually do a review!

SillySpringer wrote:I wish these people, instead of taking stupid pictures, would actually do a review!

Who do you think did those Chinese videos?

Sabrblade wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I wish these people, instead of taking stupid pictures, would actually do a review!

Who do you think did those Chinese videos?

The Chinese.

SillySpringer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I wish these people, instead of taking stupid pictures, would actually do a review!

Who do you think did those Chinese videos?

The Chinese.

And who do you think takes these toy pics?

Sabrblade wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I wish these people, instead of taking stupid pictures, would actually do a review!

Who do you think did those Chinese videos?

The Chinese.

And who do you think takes these toy pics?

This is the stolen Chinese blood money edition of Devastator after all.

Sabrblade wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I wish these people, instead of taking stupid pictures, would actually do a review!

Who do you think did those Chinese videos?

The Chinese.

And who do you think takes these toy pics?

Actually the majority of people in China don't speak exclusively Mandarin Chinese. There are actually a lot of English speaking people there, so I don't get why an english speaking person in China can't do a review in English. Even if they don't have access to Youtube or Google.

Probably because they were intending to do it for a Chinese audience.

I normally don't watch the transformation part of video reviews because I don't want to spoil the surprise, but I just couldn't turn away from Devastator being built. That is some impressive engineering going on there. With all the little tabs, flip outs, folds and such, I'm surprised each bot has three modes.

Pre-orders, why you no open?

carytheone wrote:I normally don't watch the transformation part of video reviews because I don't want to spoil the surprise, but I just couldn't turn away from Devastator being built. That is some impressive engineering going on there. With all the little tabs, flip outs, folds and such, I'm surprised each bot has three modes.

Pre-orders, why you no open?

It is quite remarkable the engineering involved. I mean look at them! Ankle tilts on all 7 bots!! The arms are not hollow! The arms even peg in in like 3 different spots! This is fantastic engineering if you ask me, and quite remarkable to watch the combination.

Burn wrote:Probably because they were intending to do it for a Chinese audience.

Oh! Man! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT!

Never mind I'm just digging my hole deeper. I am thinking to hard about this.

carytheone wrote:I normally don't watch the transformation part of video reviews because I don't want to spoil the surprise, but I just couldn't turn away from Devastator being built. That is some impressive engineering going on there. With all the little tabs, flip outs, folds and such, I'm surprised each bot has three modes.

Pre-orders, why you no open?

That really is the perfect word for it: built. Not combined to form a whole, built to form a towering structure of hate.

Shuttershock wrote:That really is the perfect word for it: built. Not combined to form a whole, built to form a towering structure of hate.

Devastator: Built to RUIN!

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:That really is the perfect word for it: built. Not combined to form a whole, built to form a towering structure of hate.

Devastator: Built to RUIN!

MERGE FOR THE KILL!!!

megatronus wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:That really is the perfect word for it: built. Not combined to form a whole, built to form a towering structure of hate.

Devastator: Built to RUIN!

MERGE FOR THE KILL!!!

RELEASE THE THUNDERKRACKEN! Oh sorry wrong con.

DEVASTATE!

SillySpringer wrote:Actually the majority of people in China don't speak exclusively Mandarin Chinese. There are actually a lot of English speaking people there, so I don't get why an english speaking person in China can't do a review in English. Even if they don't have access to Youtube or Google.

Having spent several years there, I have to say there is a HUGE difference between being able to tell someone where the bathroom is and being able to describe something like this, while using all the specialized language required in describing Devy. It could well be that the people who got ahold of this are third party factory workers (buddy of a buddy), which doesn't necessarily preclude the fact that they are English speakers of the caliber of us. Is all a question of accessibility. By the time someone gets an English translation done, Devy will be in the English-speaking audience's hands. I recommend patience.

Optimutt wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Actually the majority of people in China don't speak exclusively Mandarin Chinese. There are actually a lot of English speaking people there, so I don't get why an english speaking person in China can't do a review in English. Even if they don't have access to Youtube or Google.

Having spent several years there, I have to say there is a HUGE difference between being able to tell someone where the bathroom is and being able to describe something like this, while using all the specialized language required in describing Devy. It could well be that the people who got ahold of this are third party factory workers (buddy of a buddy), which doesn't necessarily preclude the fact that they are English speakers of the caliber of us. Is all a question of accessibility. By the time someone gets an English translation done, Devy will be in the English-speaking audience's hands. I recommend patience.

Fine!
Patients is a virtue.

SillySpringer wrote:Fine!
Patients is a virtue.

No, patients are people in a doctor's office. Patience is a virtue. Stay in school.


I think I may have realized why they inverted Mixmaster. The way Devastator is built traditionally, Bonecrusher is the only limb that points upward, while Scavenger, Scrapper, and Mixmaster all point downwards. But now that they've turned Mixmaster into a barrel-forward truck, and have him mount with his cab at the knee, he points upward. And he's on the same side as Bonecrusher. It's not exactly symmetry, but it's.... well it's something. Or maybe I'm reading too much into this.

Trust these to be in Chinese! but here's a 2 part vid review of CW Titan Class Devastator

https://youtu.be/4tl3WDpHKHw

& part 2

https://youtu.be/t6eK3jE_CcI

Erm.....who moved my post?

shajaki wrote:Who are these people that keep getting their hands on CW Devy?!

I guess they didnt have Apollyon in time

That Bot wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Fine!
Patients is a virtue.

No, patients are people in a doctor's office. Patience is a virtue. Stay in school.


I think I may have realized why they inverted Mixmaster. The way Devastator is built traditionally, Bonecrusher is the only limb that points upward, while Scavenger, Scrapper, and Mixmaster all point downwards. But now that they've turned Mixmaster into a barrel-forward truck, and have him mount with his cab at the knee, he points upward. And he's on the same side as Bonecrusher. It's not exactly symmetry, but it's.... well it's something. Or maybe I'm reading too much into this.

That damn auto correct!

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:Who are these people that keep getting their hands on CW Devy?!

I guess they didnt have Apollyon in time

Perfect scale!

I actually am hoping to get some masterpieces soon, after I get some more main line stuff.

I found another in hand image, whatever that's worth.


And a picture of the original pencil drawing for this guy's box art.

Ooh and it has a signature on it too.

Anybody recognise the John Hancock?

Look very Dreamwave house style to me. Complete with dull surprise.

MemphisR56 wrote:Ooh and it has a signature on it too.

Anybody recognise the John Hancock?

Look very Dreamwave house style to me. Complete with dull surprise.

Marcelo Matere, as reported here: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ere/32289/

Va'al wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:Ooh and it has a signature on it too.

Anybody recognise the John Hancock?

Look very Dreamwave house style to me. Complete with dull surprise.

Marcelo Matere, as reported here: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ere/32289/

Va'al, you being an englishman, I am surprised to see you know the lingo. Do you know why Americans call signatures John Hancocks? He was one of America's founding fathers and his signature on the Declaration of Independence is by FAR the biggest. He wanted it to be big so that the King of England could see it without needing his spectacles

One of the things I love about this Devastator, is that he looks chunky, and he doesn't look like a bunch of robots slapped together to make something vaguely humanoid. He isn't spindly, he is just right! =) Unlike Menasor...

william-james88 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:Ooh and it has a signature on it too.

Anybody recognise the John Hancock?

Look very Dreamwave house style to me. Complete with dull surprise.

Marcelo Matere, as reported here: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ere/32289/

Va'al, you being an englishman, I am surprised to see you know the lingo. Do you know why Americans call signatures John Hancocks? He was one of America's founding fathers and his signature on the Declaration of Independence is by FAR the biggest. He wanted it to be big so that the King of England could see it without needing his spectacles

I am European. Yorkshire and Tuscan at a stretch. None of this Englishman business.

Devastator is for preorder on Ebay.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FTransfomers-Com%20...%202c9b8802e5%3C%2Fa%3E%3F

eBay having a pre-order isn't really the same as a specialty store (BBTS) or a brick&mortar store (Wal-Mart) having them....

SillySpringer wrote:One of the things I love about this Devastator, is that he looks chunky, and he doesn't look like a bunch of robots slapped together to make something vaguely humanoid. He isn't spindly, he is just right! =) Unlike Menasor...

I tend to disagree. This Menasor is following the "proper" transformation, but if you fan-mode him he looks sooooo much better. The thighs look normal and he looks very tall. also, if you switch Deadend and Breakdown, Dead end forms a nice kneepad that hides Motormasters foot and combiner slot, improving his appearance. It also looks better to have the arms out a click. Look up the Optibotimus review, I think he did a good job of fixing him.
PS: If your Menasor is leaning forward or backward, rotate the Thigh pieces. They turn the legs in or out, but also make him lean depending on which way you turn. It really helps! My Menasor looks amazing with these "upgrades"

Like this?

shajaki wrote:Like this?

Actually no. Mine still has his legs facing the right way. Mine stands as follows:
1) Move legs in a click so leg bots are just touching
2)Get him to a slight lean-forward position if he won't stand up straight
3)Rotate the Motormaster legs out, like the back of MM legs are going to face front, but they only rotate a little
4)when he's straight up, it worked!
The feet on my menasor are about 15-20 degrees apart at the front, and mine stands beautifully. He is very much better than most pics give him credit for

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

shajaki wrote:Like this?

Actually no. Mine still has his legs facing the right way. Mine stands as follows:
1) Move legs in a click so leg bots are just touching
2)Get him to a slight lean-forward position if he won't stand up straight
3)Rotate the Motormaster legs out, like the back of MM legs are going to face front, but they only rotate a little
4)when he's straight up, it worked!
The feet on my menasor are about 15-20 degrees apart at the front, and mine stands beautifully. He is very much better than most pics give him credit for

That's all well and good, but I like my guy to give the semblence of movement, and this configuration just won't do it.

My Menasor can still strike a pose