Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #26 WW2 Bumblebee

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Broken video.

Okay we should be good to go now! I found the problem. Thanks for pointing it out

Good video but showing articulation is waste Of time they all move same in same figure class

dragons wrote:Good video but showing articulation is waste Of time they all move same in same figure class

Some points have become standard like the knees, hips, elbows, shoulders and head, but other points like the feet and waist have not.

dragons wrote:Good video but showing articulation is waste Of time they all move same in same figure class

No it is not. Often, even if the same point of articulations are present, the kibble get in the way. This is important to point out.

Oaky, finally saw the video. Too bad it's a low def blurry mess, but eh, better than nothing.

I'm a bit disappointed that this WW2 bee is a TOTAL SHELLFORMER. He's comparable to AoE Galvatron or even Cybertron Thunderblast. Absolutely NO vehicle get carried over to the robot mode. Plus that color is plain and boring. It should have more dirt and battle damage painted on. Especially for a 30$ deluxe.


I still want it though, for the Legacy. Plus I'm sure Toyhax will come up with an interesting Reprolabels upgrade set.

william-james88 wrote:dotm guzzle AND rotf lockdown

I can testify firsthand to that, I can’t even find a broken version of that figure so I can just get his engine, and it feels like a wast to pay about double the original price when I still have the rest of him AND ratchet’ EMP for him

All this Lockdown talk:





Alt modes scale pretty well, but bot modes put SS Lockdown at the kids' table:

Hard pass

I like it enough but i prefer the third party figure that turns into the old mercedes-benz instead.

You mean, the thing he actually turned into in the movie?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:I like it enough but i prefer the third party figure that turns into the old mercedes-benz instead.

IM not feeling bad at saying I'd rather buy this expensive version than wasting my money on the SS one.

ZeroWolf wrote:With thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Nemesis Primal, we've learned that YouTuber TonTon Reviews has uploaded another review of a forthcoming Studio Series deluxe! This time it's #26 WW2 Bumblebee! Inspired by flashback footage in the fifth Transformers movie, The Last Knight. As well as having a hand held gun, he also comes with a mighty looking hammer,which forms the barrel of the tanks main weapon.

We have embedded the video for your convenience.



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That's not true... The back of the car goes into slots in the legs to replicate how his wheels are in the middle of his feet in the film. Also in all fairness, that design wouldn't be able to turn into that car without a little shell forming.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You mean, the thing he actually turned into in the movie?

Exactly.

-Kanrabat- wrote:IM not feeling bad at saying I'd rather buy this expensive version than wasting my money on the SS one.

Yeah. Dunno how much this one will be. They also have Bulldog (the tank that guards Burton's mansion) and a tri-plane Starscream (with alternate Blitzwing) head too which is also very cool. I need to know the prices. At least since these are Studio scale they shouldn't be as costly as the third party Masterpiece scale toys. Right?

Ok, to round up a few points:

I consider TLK as the start of the SS line. A lot of things from that line carried over, so as far as I am concerned, the TLK guys, and even most of the AOE lot are good for this line.

TLK Hound is a really good figure to me. He is a great Hound and I have no bones with him being the definitive Hound for my collection.

That new Optimus looks great, and I am so glad I passed on the first one.

I did figure out why they did the deco and design choices they did for that first Prime though: The black in the middle of the chest is where he got run through and blasted, and the muted colors reflect his death!

while it's not perfect by any means, I really like the looks of World War Bee, and I'm hoping this means a World War Hot Rod is also in the works to go with his brother.

Finally, have some Dropkick. still holding out hopes for a muscle car version of him

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I consider TLK as the start of the SS line. A lot of things from that line carried over, so as far as I am concerned, the TLK guys, and even most of the AOE lot are good for this line.

TLK Hound is a really good figure to me. He is a great Hound and I have no bones with him being the definitive Hound for my collection.

Yeah, I got him last week for £13.19 from The Entertainer which is almost £20 cheaper than when he first came out and he's a lot of fun and already has made it onto my Studio shelf (along with TLK Prime, Berserker and Megatron. Wave 3 Bumblebee is usually there too but he's on a special mission at present)



I'm very tempted to buy the Dr Wu upgrade kit for Hound (and the Toyhax labels to give him more details and the red cross logos) to add more accurate feet, and extra weapons including his gatling gun thing that turns into the back part of his vehicle which is missing on the TLK figure.

I'm sure this is in the thread somewhere, but I'll ask here anyway. What's the difference between yellow Ratchet (04) and green Ratchet (16), besides the color (obviously)?

Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm sure this is in the thread somewhere, but I'll ask here anyway. What's the difference between yellow Ratchet (04) and green Ratchet (16), besides the color (obviously)?

Gun instead of saw

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm sure this is in the thread somewhere, but I'll ask here anyway. What's the difference between yellow Ratchet (04) and green Ratchet (16), besides the color (obviously)?

Gun instead of saw

That's it? Thanks. I guess I'll be buying the green one, since he'll be paired up with Lockdown in my SS collection.

Took these pictures after seeing a comment in another thread, but figured I'd share these here for funsies. Movie 1 bots vs. Studio bots, and my collective (somewhat) bot and con shelves with Studio Series mixed in for a size comparison. (I have a bunch more near these shelves, but decided it was easier to look at the one shelf for both)

Video review for SS Jetfire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8uLAK_cZlE&t=911s

Only real improvements are Jetfire's robot mode and the fact that he comes with the axe. Although they didn't get the axe fully correct. In the movie the axe and his cane are one and the same: the axe blades swing out and connect to the top of the cane. For the purposes of this line and its use of 5mm ports, that could be represented by the cane splitting to allow a second 5mm post section on it somewhat above the wheels to be stuck up through the hand, and the axe blades being a piece that slots on top of the cane.

Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime:


https://m.facebook.com/TFUTH/photos/a.5 ... 547001989/

SillyMcGilly wrote:Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime:


https://m.facebook.com/TFUTH/photos/a.5 ... 547001989/

ugh i wish this was a fake... oh well, maybe the toy looks better than the weirdly proportioned and illogical cgi model... now there's lazily designed 'cybertronian' g1 optimus in studio series and siege...

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime:


https://m.facebook.com/TFUTH/photos/a.5 ... 547001989/

ugh i wish this was a fake... oh well, maybe the toy looks better than the weirdly proportioned and illogical cgi model...

At least I'M hyped outta my wits. So sh.

SillyMcGilly wrote:Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime:


https://m.facebook.com/TFUTH/photos/a.5 ... 547001989/

Oh god how many voyager Optimus Primes am I gonna have by next year? I keep wanting them all and they just keep getting better!

SillyMcGilly wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime:


https://m.facebook.com/TFUTH/photos/a.5 ... 547001989/

ugh i wish this was a fake... oh well, maybe the toy looks better than the weirdly proportioned and illogical cgi model...

At least I'M hyped outta my wits. So sh.

Thsy should have done that in the Bumblebee movie line instead of the Evasion mode-style Legendary Optimus Prime that doesn't appear in the film at all. Does this mean Studio Series is gonna be taken over by all those damn g1-style bots from the cybertron scenes? We already have that stuff in Siege where it doesn't contaminate my movie collection.

That and the new IDW G1 reboot Prime and Megatron looking much the same as they did ever did just shows the franchise is all out of ideas...

Autobot Roadburn wrote:Oh god how many voyager Optimus Primes am I gonna have by next year? I keep wanting them all and they just keep getting better!

This site needs a like button, foreal.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime:


https://m.facebook.com/TFUTH/photos/a.5 ... 547001989/

ugh i wish this was a fake... oh well, maybe the toy looks better than the weirdly proportioned and illogical cgi model...

At least I'M hyped outta my wits. So sh.

Thsy should have done that in the Bumblebee movie line instead of the Evasion mode-style Legendary Optimus Prime. Does this mean Studio Series is gonna be taken over by all those damn g1-style bots from the cybertron scenes? We already have that stuff in Siege where it doesn't contaminate my movie collection.

That and the new IDW G1 reboot Prime and Megatron looking much the same as they did ever did just shows the franchise is all out of ideas...

You say that like it's a terrible thing.

Also this is the new movie. Not IDW. Ffs. Let me enjoy my dream movie.

SillyMcGilly wrote:You say that like it's a terrible thing.

It is is you're absolutely sick to death of G1 which I have pretty much been since... well... the late 80s bar an occasional purchase here and there of updated toys most of which were then sold off soon after.

Fine if it has it's own separate things but when it starts taking over non-G1 stuff that folk like me love to collect it's a bit of a kick in the teeth.

Also this is the new movie. Not IDW. Ffs. Let me enjoy my dream movie.

Never said it was. I saw the movie last Saturday. It was not great.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:You say that like it's a terrible thing.

It is is you're absolutely sick to death of G1 which I have pretty much been since... well... the late 80s bar an occasional purchase here and there of updated toys most of which were then sold off soon after.

Fine if it has it's own separate things but when it starts taking over non-G1 stuff that folk like me love to collect it's a bit of a kick in the teeth.

Also this is the new movie. Not IDW. Ffs. Let me enjoy my dream movie.

Never said it was. I saw the movie last Saturday. It was not great.

Bay has overstayed his welcome. TLK bombed, and for good reason. Stop acting like onetoy out of a movie where most of the main cast are new designs is the end of creativity as we know it. There are many more people who wanted to see this toy made than not, and Studio Series is the only place it fits. It all comes down to: If you don't like it, save it for me. Shatter and Dropkick and ESPECIALLY Blitzwing should be Bayish enough to suite your fancy, so that proves they wanna appeal to everyone. Stop taking it so fucking personal, sheesh..

And I will be the judge of that this weekend, Bayboy.

SillyMcGilly wrote:Bay has overstayed his welcome. TLK bombed, and for good reason. Stop acting like onetoy out of a movie where most of the main cast are new designs is the end of creativity as we know it.

I didn't say just one toy. I referred to all the G1 stuff in the movie and the IDW reboot just using all the boring new G1 siege toys rather than doing anything fresh and interesting.

Shatter and Dropkick and ESPECIALLY Blitzwing should be Bayish enough to suite your fancy, so that proves they wanna appeal to everyone.

What do you mean 'ESPECIALLY' Blitzwing? He was the most G1-ish of those three! Hell, everyone thought he was a G1-inspired Starscream for crying out loud... And that's not the point. If that movie is a prequel (like several elements of the plot and certain character designs suggest) then it's saying ALL the Transformers I've spent past 11 years collecting and admiring actually used to look like their G1 counterparts that I do not!

Stop taking it so **** personal, sheesh..

Yeah I should totally be quiet and have no complaints or voice my opinion at all. Like all those G1 fans did from 2007 to 2017. Yeah cos I sure never got a bashing from any of them when i expressed my love for the movie designs.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Bay has overstayed his welcome. TLK bombed, and for good reason. Stop acting like onetoy out of a movie where most of the main cast are new designs is the end of creativity as we know it.

I didn't say just one toy. I referred to all the G1 stuff in the movie and the IDW reboot just using all the boring new G1 siege toys rather than doing anything fresh and interesting.

Shatter and Dropkick and ESPECIALLY Blitzwing should be Bayish enough to suite your fancy, so that proves they wanna appeal to everyone.

What do you mean 'ESPECIALLY' Blitzwing? He was the most G1-ish of those three! Hell, everyone thought he was a G1-inspired Starscream for crying out loud... And that's not the point. If that movie is a prequel (like several elements of the plot and certain character designs suggest) then it's saying ALL the Transformers I've spent past 11 years collecting and admiring actually used to look like their G1 counterparts that I do not!

Stop taking it so **** personal, sheesh..

Yeah I should totally be quiet and have no complaints or voice my opinion at all. Like all those G1 fans did from 2007 to 2017. Yeah cos I sure never got a bashing from any of them when i expressed my love for the movie designs.

I like the movie designs too. At least.. Some of them. But sometimes "new" isn't NEW anymore. New to me is making a movie that actually brings the original cartoon's concepts to a cinematic form. We've had 5 movies of Bayhem and Bayformers since 2007 ffs. Sometimes old is the new new.

And about Blitzwing, he's the least G1 to me because he looks so different from his original design. That gas mask face is super sick though.

Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Silly McGilly, we've learned that Transformers Universe Thailand Facebook Group has leaked a look at the instructions for a potential Studio Series toy of Optimus Prime as seen in the Transformers Bumblebee movie!



While there isn't a lot to go on as we see a close up of the figure's chest shoulders and head but we can see that it's like all other Optimus in the line so far and is a Voyager class and is given the number #38, meaning that if indeed real, he'll be in the wave after Bonecrusher and 2007 Optimus (potentially).

Please bare in mind that we have had no official word from Hasbro on this figures existence so please treat all news on the subject till confirmed.

What do you think of this? Too good to be true? Or a bought on sight must-have? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

I hope this is true. 4 years ago I thought with AOE evasion mode optimus was the optimus we had always wanted for the films. I was wrong. This is the Optimus we always wanted.

I have major mixed feelings about the studio Series as a whole. I'm no fan of the movies and most of the designs to me look like they threw a can into a shredder and called it a robot. But I decided to give the line a try because I don't like slagging things off without at least trying them and I've been met with mostly disappoinment. Stinger's shoulder pad snapped off, ratchet is a loose mess with panels that won't stay tabbed, you literally can't transform the first bumblebee or crowbar without half of it's bits falling off, blackout is a clumsy mess with an alt mode that doesn't hold together, Jazz's alt mold can't peg together properly, I can't transform the Volkswagen bumblebee because the headlights are fused in place, and Dropkick is just overall dreadful. I haven't been collecting seriously long (I mainly started in combiner Wars) but I've collected nearly every single figure to come out of the prime wars trilogy and I haven't had this many problems with any of those lines.

So now here's where the mixed feelings come in, I WANT this line to be good. While I don't like the movies or the designs really, the movies are pretty important to me. I'm 24 so I didn't grow up with G1 and no one in my family or even my friends like Transformers so the live action movies was the first experience I had with this fandom. It got me interested in the mythos of the whole brand which eventually lead to my discovery, and love, of the G1 continuity. So I want to have a representation of this introduction on my shelves and the fact that I've just been met with disappointment so far is really disheartening. I think the new WW2 Bumblebee looks good but the fact that it's a total shell former kind of ruins it. I think sideswipe and barricade look great but seeing as all but 2 of the figures I've collected from this line have alt mode issues it makes me majorly question whether or not I want to keep up with the line.

This new Optimus might be the make or break for me. I really like the new design but if it turns out to have another bad alt mode then I think I'll have to call it quits on the Studio Series.

I really hope that this is a fake, I want the constructicons to be released not another prime (or bumblebee)! I wish that they would reveal what number 31 since it should be releasing soon.

steals_your_goats wrote:I have major mixed feelings about the studio Series as a whole. I'm no fan of the movies and most of the designs to me look like they threw a can into a shredder and called it a robot. But I decided to give the line a try because I don't like slagging things off without at least trying them and I've been met with mostly disappoinment. Stinger's shoulder pad snapped off, ratchet is a loose mess with panels that won't stay tabbed, you literally can't transform the first bumblebee or crowbar without half of it's bits falling off, blackout is a clumsy mess with an alt mode that doesn't hold together, Jazz's alt mold can't peg together properly, I can't transform the Volkswagen bumblebee because the headlights are fused in place, and Dropkick is just overall dreadful. I haven't been collecting seriously long (I mainly started in combiner Wars) but I've collected nearly every single figure to come out of the prime wars trilogy and I haven't had this many problems with any of those lines.

So now here's where the mixed feelings come in, I WANT this line to be good. While I don't like the movies or the designs really, the movies are pretty important to me. I'm 24 so I didn't grow up with G1 and no one in my family or even my friends like Transformers so the live action movies was the first experience I had with this fandom. It got me interested in the mythos of the whole brand which eventually lead to my discovery, and love, of the G1 continuity. So I

want to have a representation of this introduction on my shelves and the fact that I've just been met with disappointment so far is really disheartening. I think the new WW2 Bumblebee looks good but the fact that it's a total shell former kind of ruins it. I think sideswipe and barricade look great but seeing as all but 2 of the figures I've collected from this line have alt mode issues it makes me majorly question whether or not I want to keep up with the line.

This new Optimus might be the make or break for me. I really like the new design but if it turns out to have another bad alt mode then I think I'll have to call it quits on the Studio Series.

All of my studio series figures have turned out just fine. The worst experience I've ever had with one was that my Ironhide was missing his silver Autobot Symbol. That and I guess ratchets legs being a but loose. I can transform my 01 Bumblebee without stuff falling off. The back of the helicopter is the only reports we've had of Blackout not staying together, and the arms not tabbing in, which isn't a huge deal. Stinger breaking is most likely your fault, or you may have just gotten a bad copy.

I do have a fix for your Jazz though. The car mode can stick together just fine. The instructions neglect to mention that you're supposed to use the plug on the roof and plug it into the port on his bottom torso. It's where a figure stand is supposed to go. Just do this easy step, and you should be good to go.

No doubt Prime will be in Voyager wave 6 with Rampage which shouldn't be too far off since wave 5 is going to be showing up soon. I'm guessing 31 will be an exclusive since Deluxe wave 5 has five figures already and Voyager wave 5 already has two.

Emerje

I really hope this is true. Also let's just take time to appreciate the elongated smokestacks. I've really wanted a toy of this design, and I think this will fill that need. Mark my words, this'll be the best Optimus Prime toy in the line. The simpler design, the beautiful sculpt, it's perfect.

What's Crackin'? wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I have major mixed feelings about the studio Series as a whole. I'm no fan of the movies and most of the designs to me look like they threw a can into a shredder and called it a robot. But I decided to give the line a try because I don't like slagging things off without at least trying them and I've been met with mostly disappoinment. Stinger's shoulder pad snapped off, ratchet is a loose mess with panels that won't stay tabbed, you literally can't transform the first bumblebee or crowbar without half of it's bits falling off, blackout is a clumsy mess with an alt mode that doesn't hold together, Jazz's alt mold can't peg together properly, I can't transform the Volkswagen bumblebee because the headlights are fused in place, and Dropkick is just overall dreadful. I haven't been collecting seriously long (I mainly started in combiner Wars) but I've collected nearly every single figure to come out of the prime wars trilogy and I haven't had this many problems with any of those lines.

So now here's where the mixed feelings come in, I WANT this line to be good. While I don't like the movies or the designs really, the movies are pretty important to me. I'm 24 so I didn't grow up with G1 and no one in my family or even my friends like Transformers so the live action movies was the first experience I had with this fandom. It got me interested in the mythos of the whole brand which eventually lead to my discovery, and love, of the G1 continuity. So I

want to have a representation of this introduction on my shelves and the fact that I've just been met with disappointment so far is really disheartening. I think the new WW2 Bumblebee looks good but the fact that it's a total shell former kind of ruins it. I think sideswipe and barricade look great but seeing as all but 2 of the figures I've collected from this line have alt mode issues it makes me majorly question whether or not I want to keep up with the line.

This new Optimus might be the make or break for me. I really like the new design but if it turns out to have another bad alt mode then I think I'll have to call it quits on the Studio Series.

All of my studio series figures have turned out just fine. The worst experience I've ever had with one was that my Ironhide was missing his silver Autobot Symbol. That and I guess ratchets legs being a but loose. I can transform my 01 Bumblebee without stuff falling off. The back of the helicopter is the only reports we've had of Blackout not staying together, and the arms not tabbing in, which isn't a huge deal. Stinger breaking is most likely your fault, or you may have just gotten a bad copy.

I do have a fix for your Jazz though. The car mode can stick together just fine. The instructions neglect to mention that you're supposed to use the plug on the roof and plug it into the port on his bottom torso. It's where a figure stand is supposed to go. Just do this easy step, and you should be good to go.

If you can transform that bumblebee without the hood falling off then you must be using kid gloves because I'm seems that literally everybody else has the issue. I've seen plenty of other people have issues with blackouts panels lining up but even if it's "not a huge deal" that's not the point. It shouldn't be an issue at all.

As for jazz, I honestly didn't know about that peg. I don't use instructions anyway but I just tried what you said and it worked great so thank you. Now I like jazz a bunch more.

steals_your_goats wrote:

What's Crackin'? wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I have major mixed feelings about the studio Series as a whole. I'm no fan of the movies and most of the designs to me look like they threw a can into a shredder and called it a robot. But I decided to give the line a try because I don't like slagging things off without at least trying them and I've been met with mostly disappoinment. Stinger's shoulder pad snapped off, ratchet is a loose mess with panels that won't stay tabbed, you literally can't transform the first bumblebee or crowbar without half of it's bits falling off, blackout is a clumsy mess with an alt mode that doesn't hold together, Jazz's alt mold can't peg together properly, I can't transform the Volkswagen bumblebee because the headlights are fused in place, and Dropkick is just overall dreadful. I haven't been collecting seriously long (I mainly started in combiner Wars) but I've collected nearly every single figure to come out of the prime wars trilogy and I haven't had this many problems with any of those lines.

So now here's where the mixed feelings come in, I WANT this line to be good. While I don't like the movies or the designs really, the movies are pretty important to me. I'm 24 so I didn't grow up with G1 and no one in my family or even my friends like Transformers so the live action movies was the first experience I had with this fandom. It got me interested in the mythos of the whole brand which eventually lead to my discovery, and love, of the G1 continuity. So I

want to have a representation of this introduction on my shelves and the fact that I've just been met with disappointment so far is really disheartening. I think the new WW2 Bumblebee looks good but the fact that it's a total shell former kind of ruins it. I think sideswipe and barricade look great but seeing as all but 2 of the figures I've collected from this line have alt mode issues it makes me majorly question whether or not I want to keep up with the line.

This new Optimus might be the make or break for me. I really like the new design but if it turns out to have another bad alt mode then I think I'll have to call it quits on the Studio Series.

All of my studio series figures have turned out just fine. The worst experience I've ever had with one was that my Ironhide was missing his silver Autobot Symbol. That and I guess ratchets legs being a but loose. I can transform my 01 Bumblebee without stuff falling off. The back of the helicopter is the only reports we've had of Blackout not staying together, and the arms not tabbing in, which isn't a huge deal. Stinger breaking is most likely your fault, or you may have just gotten a bad copy.

I do have a fix for your Jazz though. The car mode can stick together just fine. The instructions neglect to mention that you're supposed to use the plug on the roof and plug it into the port on his bottom torso. It's where a figure stand is supposed to go. Just do this easy step, and you should be good to go.

If you can transform that bumblebee without the hood falling off then you must be using kid gloves because I'm seems that literally everybody else has the issue. I've seen plenty of other people have issues with blackouts panels lining up but even if it's "not a huge deal" that's not the point. It shouldn't be an issue at all.

As for jazz, I honestly didn't know about that peg. I don't use instructions anyway but I just tried what you said and it worked great so thank you. Now I like jazz a bunch more.

Glad I was able to help. Jazz is my personal favorite toy from the line. My 01 bumblebee has had the back pack fall off before. This issue is more prominent on the first release, but no I've never used kid gloves, I just take it nice and easy. I think hasbro learned not having one of those metal rods in the back was a mistake, because the Clunker Bee seems to have a rod holding the backpack together. Also yeah stuff not tabbing together shouldn't be an issue, but it is. Sometimes you need to sand stuff down, which could cause more harm than good. You shouldn't have to fix that either. My Ratchet always has had stuff tab in just fine. I have no idea how your SS 18 bumblebee has its headlights fused together, but I know they are stuck on pieces on the chest, which move in and out. If you can't move those pieces you should take it back to the store and get a new one.

steals_your_goats wrote:

What's Crackin'? wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I have major mixed feelings about the studio Series as a whole. I'm no fan of the movies and most of the designs to me look like they threw a can into a shredder and called it a robot. But I decided to give the line a try because I don't like slagging things off without at least trying them and I've been met with mostly disappoinment. Stinger's shoulder pad snapped off, ratchet is a loose mess with panels that won't stay tabbed, you literally can't transform the first bumblebee or crowbar without half of it's bits falling off, blackout is a clumsy mess with an alt mode that doesn't hold together, Jazz's alt mold can't peg together properly, I can't transform the Volkswagen bumblebee because the headlights are fused in place, and Dropkick is just overall dreadful. I haven't been collecting seriously long (I mainly started in combiner Wars) but I've collected nearly every single figure to come out of the prime wars trilogy and I haven't had this many problems with any of those lines.

So now here's where the mixed feelings come in, I WANT this line to be good. While I don't like the movies or the designs really, the movies are pretty important to me. I'm 24 so I didn't grow up with G1 and no one in my family or even my friends like Transformers so the live action movies was the first experience I had with this fandom. It got me interested in the mythos of the whole brand which eventually lead to my discovery, and love, of the G1 continuity. So I

want to have a representation of this introduction on my shelves and the fact that I've just been met with disappointment so far is really disheartening. I think the new WW2 Bumblebee looks good but the fact that it's a total shell former kind of ruins it. I think sideswipe and barricade look great but seeing as all but 2 of the figures I've collected from this line have alt mode issues it makes me majorly question whether or not I want to keep up with the line.

This new Optimus might be the make or break for me. I really like the new design but if it turns out to have another bad alt mode then I think I'll have to call it quits on the Studio Series.

All of my studio series figures have turned out just fine. The worst experience I've ever had with one was that my Ironhide was missing his silver Autobot Symbol. That and I guess ratchets legs being a but loose. I can transform my 01 Bumblebee without stuff falling off. The back of the helicopter is the only reports we've had of Blackout not staying together, and the arms not tabbing in, which isn't a huge deal. Stinger breaking is most likely your fault, or you may have just gotten a bad copy.

I do have a fix for your Jazz though. The car mode can stick together just fine. The instructions neglect to mention that you're supposed to use the plug on the roof and plug it into the port on his bottom torso. It's where a figure stand is supposed to go. Just do this easy step, and you should be good to go.

If you can transform that bumblebee without the hood falling off then you must be using kid gloves because I'm seems that literally everybody else has the issue. I've seen plenty of other people have issues with blackouts panels lining up but even if it's "not a huge deal" that's not the point. It shouldn't be an issue at all.

As for jazz, I honestly didn't know about that peg. I don't use instructions anyway but I just tried what you said and it worked great so thank you. Now I like jazz a bunch more.

I’ve been able to transform Bee without popping his back off , though I do admit that Blackout is a bit tricky, but after a while he seems to get easier, Stinger is also fine, but Crowbar is a hot mess with all his dreads, it is pretty much impossible for him to line up correctly without some fiddling, he’s even worse than Berserker!

What's Crackin'? wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

What's Crackin'? wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I have major mixed feelings about the studio Series as a whole. I'm no fan of the movies and most of the designs to me look like they threw a can into a shredder and called it a robot. But I decided to give the line a try because I don't like slagging things off without at least trying them and I've been met with mostly disappoinment. Stinger's shoulder pad snapped off, ratchet is a loose mess with panels that won't stay tabbed, you literally can't transform the first bumblebee or crowbar without half of it's bits falling off, blackout is a clumsy mess with an alt mode that doesn't hold together, Jazz's alt mold can't peg together properly, I can't transform the Volkswagen bumblebee because the headlights are fused in place, and Dropkick is just overall dreadful. I haven't been collecting seriously long (I mainly started in combiner Wars) but I've collected nearly every single figure to come out of the prime wars trilogy and I haven't had this many problems with any of those lines.

So now here's where the mixed feelings come in, I WANT this line to be good. While I don't like the movies or the designs really, the movies are pretty important to me. I'm 24 so I didn't grow up with G1 and no one in my family or even my friends like Transformers so the live action movies was the first experience I had with this fandom. It got me interested in the mythos of the whole brand which eventually lead to my discovery, and love, of the G1 continuity. So I

want to have a representation of this introduction on my shelves and the fact that I've just been met with disappointment so far is really disheartening. I think the new WW2 Bumblebee looks good but the fact that it's a total shell former kind of ruins it. I think sideswipe and barricade look great but seeing as all but 2 of the figures I've collected from this line have alt mode issues it makes me majorly question whether or not I want to keep up with the line.

This new Optimus might be the make or break for me. I really like the new design but if it turns out to have another bad alt mode then I think I'll have to call it quits on the Studio Series.

All of my studio series figures have turned out just fine. The worst experience I've ever had with one was that my Ironhide was missing his silver Autobot Symbol. That and I guess ratchets legs being a but loose. I can transform my 01 Bumblebee without stuff falling off. The back of the helicopter is the only reports we've had of Blackout not staying together, and the arms not tabbing in, which isn't a huge deal. Stinger breaking is most likely your fault, or you may have just gotten a bad copy.

I do have a fix for your Jazz though. The car mode can stick together just fine. The instructions neglect to mention that you're supposed to use the plug on the roof and plug it into the port on his bottom torso. It's where a figure stand is supposed to go. Just do this easy step, and you should be good to go.

If you can transform that bumblebee without the hood falling off then you must be using kid gloves because I'm seems that literally everybody else has the issue. I've seen plenty of other people have issues with blackouts panels lining up but even if it's "not a huge deal" that's not the point. It shouldn't be an issue at all.

As for jazz, I honestly didn't know about that peg. I don't use instructions anyway but I just tried what you said and it worked great so thank you. Now I like jazz a bunch more.

Glad I was able to help. Jazz is my personal favorite toy from the line. My 01 bumblebee has had the back pack fall off before. This issue is more prominent on the first release, but no I've never used kid gloves, I just take it nice and easy. I think hasbro learned not having one of those metal rods in the back was a mistake, because the Clunker Bee seems to have a rod holding the backpack together. Also yeah stuff not tabbing together shouldn't be an issue, but it is. Sometimes you need to sand stuff down, which could cause more harm than good. You shouldn't have to fix that either. My Ratchet always has had stuff tab in just fine. I have no idea how your SS 18 bumblebee has its headlights fused together, but I know they are stuck on pieces on the chest, which move in and out. If you can't move those pieces you should take it back to the store and get a new one.

I've only bought four Studio Series Transformers (two 'Bees, Jazz, and Dropkick), and aside from the hot mess that is 01 1977 Camaro 'Bee I've not had any issues. Even then I added the rod to hold the roof and windshield on myself, but I had to spend four hours with an emery board (nail file) and shave down the plastic assembly for where the hood snaps down hiding the head as the plastic and a peg stuck out about two millimeters. I was about ready to just return the "cheap knockoff" of quality when I finally got it to snap together and even then there's a good deformation in the black plastic of this assembly where the metal peg for the hinge of the hood has still had to force through the edge of the piece I was sanding down before it could snap together. Now the sucker sits in car mode (the reason why I bought it) with Jazz sitting on him to reenact his introductory scene from the '07 movie.

Otherwise, I really don't know if I'd even buy this OP as I'm still on the fence about the whole new Jet-powered OP with Jetfire. I want to love the cantankerous old jet, but I can't un-see his beard sticking out of the Blackbird, and the OP would only be for when I want to display the powered mode. So I might just stick with my MPM and MP-1 OPs, and ignore the Studio Series for awhile after Shatter.

What's Crackin'? wrote:Glad I was able to help. Jazz is my personal favorite toy from the line. My 01 bumblebee has had the back pack fall off before. This issue is more prominent on the first release, but no I've never used kid gloves, I just take it nice and easy. I think hasbro learned not having one of those metal rods in the back was a mistake, because the Clunker Bee seems to have a rod holding the backpack together. Also yeah stuff not tabbing together shouldn't be an issue, but it is. Sometimes you need to sand stuff down, which could cause more harm than good. You shouldn't have to fix that either. My Ratchet always has had stuff tab in just fine. I have no idea how your SS 18 bumblebee has its headlights fused together, but I know they are stuck on pieces on the chest, which move in and out. If you can't move those pieces you should take it back to the store and get a new one.

I like jazz quite a bit but the fact that alt mode was so gappy frustrated me to no end. The lacking metal rod was a huge mistake and I'm glad to hear that they fixed it with later releases. I have no idea why ss18 had the headlight issue, I assume it's a qc one off because the right one works perfectly fine but when I tried to move the left one it just sheared off. I would've taken it back but I had already recycled the packaging before it broke. I guess it's a good thing I like the robot mode so much.

FYI to everyone, this is not a fake. We knew from the listings that we were getting anoher voyager Optimus this year (along with a DOTM leader), we just didnt know from what movie he would be. Now we know. Also, thats so may damn optimus toys. 2 voyagers and 1 leader in Studio Series and a voyager and leader in Siege.

william-james88 wrote:FYI to everyone, this is not a fake. We knew from the listings that we were getting anoher voyager Optimus this year (along with a DOTM leader), we just didnt know from what movie he would be. Now we know. Also, thats so may damn optimus toys. 2 voyagers and 1 leader in Studio Series and a voyager and leader in Siege.

We knew there was another voyager prime? I knew of the dotm leader but I can't remember a listing explicitly saying voyager Optimus. I know there was the "hero" voyager which I said would be this version of Optimus.

william-james88 wrote:FYI to everyone, this is not a fake. We knew from the listings that we were getting anoher voyager Optimus this year (along with a DOTM leader), we just didnt know from what movie he would be. Now we know. Also, thats so may damn optimus toys. 2 voyagers and 1 leader in Studio Series and a voyager and leader in Siege.

There has been 9 bumblebees in the studio series in the first 30 figures. I think we can handle 5 optimus primes

william-james88 wrote:We knew from the listings that we were getting anoher voyager Optimus this year (along with a DOTM leader)

Oh, ok. I was worried this was what we were getting instead of the rumored DOTM leader. I’ll be waiting for the DOTM one, but I think Prime is one of the better cybertronian designs from what I’ve seen (his head is still very movieverse). Seeing the movie tomorrow, I’ll have a better verdict then!

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Bay has overstayed his welcome. TLK bombed, and for good reason. Stop acting like onetoy out of a movie where most of the main cast are new designs is the end of creativity as we know it.

I didn't say just one toy. I referred to all the G1 stuff in the movie and the IDW reboot just using all the boring new G1 siege toys rather than doing anything fresh and interesting.

Shatter and Dropkick and ESPECIALLY Blitzwing should be Bayish enough to suite your fancy, so that proves they wanna appeal to everyone.

What do you mean 'ESPECIALLY' Blitzwing? He was the most G1-ish of those three! Hell, everyone thought he was a G1-inspired Starscream for crying out loud... And that's not the point. If that movie is a prequel (like several elements of the plot and certain character designs suggest) then it's saying ALL the Transformers I've spent past 11 years collecting and admiring actually used to look like their G1 counterparts that I do not!

Stop taking it so **** personal, sheesh..

Yeah I should totally be quiet and have no complaints or voice my opinion at all. Like all those G1 fans did from 2007 to 2017. Yeah cos I sure never got a bashing from any of them when i expressed my love for the movie designs.

I like the movie designs too. At least.. Some of them. But sometimes "new" isn't NEW anymore. New to me is making a movie that actually brings the original cartoon's concepts to a cinematic form. We've had 5 movies of Bayhem and Bayformers since 2007 ffs. Sometimes old is the new new.

And about Blitzwing, he's the least G1 to me because he looks so different from his original design. That gas mask face is super sick though.

The problem is that the movie universe is. NOT. G1. It could do with some more elements from G1 and other pre-movie continuities - like the Autobots providing disaster relief - but it is not G1 and never has been. It is its own thing. And furthermore, we've seen Cybertronian robot and vehicle modes, and flashbacks to the war! The GEEWUN designs from the Bumblebee movie are totally at odds with that. Travis Knight is being a buttheaded GEEWUNner who refuses to play by the movie universe's house rules. It's the equivalent of someone coming into your house and throwing out your furniture to replace it with something different because they don't like the look of it. Something being "new" does not automatically make it good, especially when it doesn't fit where it's been put. The way Knight's going I'm surprised he didn't have Megatron turn into a handgun (unless he did; I haven't seen the movie yet).
And what's your problem with TLK? That it *gasp* actually answered the question of what happened to Cybertron that had been hanging in the air since the end of DOTM? That it didn't have stupid cheatsy "Transformium" transformations?

Now me, I'm a big fan of both G1 AND the movies. But I think GEEWUNnery should be kept to G1-based lines and continuities while other universes get to be their own thing.

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:FYI to everyone, this is not a fake. We knew from the listings that we were getting anoher voyager Optimus this year (along with a DOTM leader), we just didnt know from what movie he would be. Now we know. Also, thats so may damn optimus toys. 2 voyagers and 1 leader in Studio Series and a voyager and leader in Siege.

We knew there was another voyager prime? I knew of the dotm leader but I can't remember a listing explicitly saying voyager Optimus. I know there was the "hero" voyager which I said would be this version of Optimus.

Yup, 2 voyager Optimus Primes, SS 25 and SS 30 from Takara, you can see the listing here

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/42279/