Transformers War for Cybertron Kingdom Figures Listed on Walmart

One thing I realized: has anyone found it odd that Jazz didn't get a WFC figure yet while everyone else from the Ark crew did? I guess that justifies having him in the SS86 line even though he did very little in that film.

I'm certainly on track to get the main Beast Wars guys, but Deluxe Warpath is definitely the one I'm looking most forward to, and not even for G1 reasons (even that would be enough). I'm really curious to see how he's going to scale with the rest of the line.

Warpath?!

Hm, interesting. I wonder if Meg's gun is the same mold that comes in the Centurion pack

Quantum Surge wrote:One thing I realized: has anyone found it odd that Jazz didn't get a WFC figure yet while everyone else from the Ark crew did? I guess that justifies having him in the SS86 line even though he did very little in that film.

If memory serves, Jazz was also the only member of the Ark crew who got a figure in the line immediately preceding WfC, PotP. I'm not including Inferno, who didn't resemble the G1 design ... and also wasn't on the Ark. Minibots also excluded, since most of those haven't been in WfC.

Okay. I know I said back when this thing started that I didn't need a new CHUG Sideswipe, or Hound, or Wheeljack. And I bought all of those.

But it's going to take a borderline miracle for them to top Generations Warpath.

TheForgottenTaxi wrote:But it's going to take a borderline miracle for them to top Generations Warpath.

My feelings exactly.

I gotta see pictures before I decide anything, but I just don't have the love for the Beast Wars to say I NEED them, so its gonna have to come down to "how fun do the toys look"?

I suspect Warpath is going to be another one like Cliffjumper. In fact, the Transformations could be very similar. That will probably be a fun toy, but so far, just as Cliffjumper has not replaced his GDO figure on my shelf despite me liking it, I doubt Warpath will take the place of his Generations self.

Oh God, imagine if Core Starscream is repainted into all of the Seekers...

I want a minibot-scale G1 Warpath, so I think the Kingdom one will be perfect for me. Generations Warpath is too big, the CW one is too small, and neither of them have the right tank or robot design.

I can't believe we're finally getting more generations Beast Wars! And the leaks are pointing to us getting the whole season one cast in Kingdom! I'm so hyped! wohoo!

Quantum Surge wrote:One thing I realized: has anyone found it odd that Jazz didn't get a WFC figure yet while everyone else from the Ark crew did? I guess that justifies having him in the SS86 line even though he did very little in that film.

Hauler didnt get a figure either tho I can always use ER Grapple as one and the Classics as the other, unless selects gets a green version at some point.

AcademyofDrX wrote:I want a minibot-scale G1 Warpath, so I think the Kingdom one will be perfect for me. Generations Warpath is too big, the CW one is too small, and neither of them have the right tank or robot design.

I doubt that's what you'll be getting here. WfC going for cartoon bot scale means a normal sized bot mode for Warpath like on the cartoon. I imagine the mentioned shield is to fill out the front of the tank mode between his feet.

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Greetings Seibertronians! Hot on the heels of the last listing reveals, fellow Seibertron user, Autobot N, has let us know that Jtprime17, over at TFW2005, has dropped even more listings for next years concluding part to the Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Trilogy, Kingdom.

The reveals this time are based around the Voyager and Leader Class figures. As well as confirming that we're getting Optimus Primal in Voyager, we're also set to get a repack of Leader Class Optimus Prime (presumably Earthrise version). More excitingly though, is the confirmation of Leader Class Beast Wars Megatron!

Here is the listings as revealed by Jtprime17:

TRA Gen WFC K Core AST
EAN: 5010993767038

TRA Gen WFC K Voyager AST
EAN: 5010993767052

TRA Gen WFC K Leader AST
EAN: 5010993767076

Tra Gen WFC K leader Optimus Prime PR
EAN: 5010993767021
(note “PR” stands for package refresh so this is most likely Earthrise Optimus in Kingdom Packaging)

Tra Gen WFC K voyager Cyclonus
EAN:5010993767014

Tra Gen WFC K voyager Optimus Primal
EAN: 5010993766987

Tra Gen WFC K leader Trex Megatron
EAN: 5010993766970

















What do you think of this set of listings? Want to see a new Generation of Primal and BW Megs to square off? Let us knlw in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

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Not as exciting, but here's the Deluxe AST that was missing from the last two posts

TheForgottenTaxi wrote:Okay. I know I said back when this thing started that I didn't need a new CHUG Sideswipe, or Hound, or Wheeljack. And I bought all of those.

But it's going to take a borderline miracle for them to top Generations Warpath.

Great point...
I can understand if anyone thinks the Datsun bros, Trailbreaker, Bumblebee, Grapple, etc. are better versions... I think most of the ER versions are better in some ways then what we've previously had in the CHUG lines.
But Generations Warpath is really an excellent figure... And for those who hate the parts-forming,
I don't see how this version can be better.

Beast Wars Megs!!! The greatest Meg of them all! Can't wait!

Yessssssss!

You know, I'd be fine if they were to take the old RobotMasters mold of BW Megatron and just upsize it to Leader class. Maybe give his arms some more articulation, but that old Deluxe-sized figure was just perfect, especially in its Telemocha Series deco.

Gen Leader Warpath was good but this one will probably cartoon accurate and small like Cliffjumper. I'm excited.

Package refresh on Optimus Prime, because two waves in Earthrise wasnt enough...

SkyFire Prime wrote:Gen Leader Warpath was good but this one will probably cartoon accurate and small like Cliffjumper. I'm excited.

If he is going to be accurate, he'll be Hoist sized.

sol magnus wrote:

SkyFire Prime wrote:Gen Leader Warpath was good but this one will probably cartoon accurate and small like Cliffjumper. I'm excited.

If he is going to be accurate, he'll be Hoist sized.

Why is everyone convinced this is true? In scenes with Hoist, he's about as tall as Hoist. In scenes with other minibots, he's the same size that they are. Neither size is any more accurate than the other, the cartoon scaling was just terrible.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

SkyFire Prime wrote:Gen Leader Warpath was good but this one will probably cartoon accurate and small like Cliffjumper. I'm excited.

If he is going to be accurate, he'll be Hoist sized.

Why is everyone convinced this is true? In scenes with Hoist, he's about as tall as Hoist. In scenes with other minibots, he's the same size that they are. Neither size is any more accurate than the other, the cartoon scaling was just terrible.

Really? I just finished watching several Season 2 Episodes. He was never shown as 'mini-bot' sized. In the episode I'm mainly referring to "A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court", he was actually taller than Hoist. In Hoist goes Hollywood, it was pretty much the same thing. He was at least as tall as the 'Autobot Cars.' I guess they figured he was a tank, so he couldn't be but so small. I dunno, ask Sunbow.

In the Marvel series, he was more in line with 'minibot' scale as a robot, though.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

I'm not on Season 3 yet. But, really, Season 3 is where the scale goes out the window.

I'm not sure what the strident opposition is about. The 'Masterpiece' Warpaths that have been made 3P have more supported the Hoist sized Warpath.

I'm curious as to which way Hasbro will go, but it's not going to be a dealbreaker for me if he's Brawn sized or whatever.

Honestly, same. My concern is with "X is SUPPOSED to be" a certain height, when size has always been arbitrary. Anything between Brawn and Optimus will be fine in my book.

I think Hasbro have been referring to the scale chart that's been floating around, don't think they've been using episodes for height reference so to speak

I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom

william-james88 wrote:I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom

Which lends more credence to the theory that the Walmart listing is for Optimus Primal, not Optimus Prime, and that it's just misspelled.

william-james88 wrote:I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom

You are aware of just that in Netflix

Autobot N wrote:Not as exciting, but here's the Deluxe AST that was missing from the last two posts

From what I undertand, that isn't an actual figure, just a listing for the general assortment. More of an internal thing for Walmart, not really for us.

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom

Which lends more credence to the theory that the Walmart listing is for Optimus Primal, not Optimus Prime, and that it's just misspelled.

You mean the Target listing. This Walmart listing is spelt correctly.

Anywyaus, Earthrise Optimus being rereleased makes sense since that's the toy we see on the Kingdom Artwork.

SkyFire Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom

You are aware of just that in Netflix

Of course, hence why it made no sense to have that same thing in earthrise.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Not as exciting, but here's the Deluxe AST that was missing from the last two posts

From what I undertand, that isn't an actual figure, just a listing for the general assortment. More of an internal thing for Walmart, not really for us.

I know, that's why I mentioned the "not as exciting" bit. Just figured I'd post it for completion's sake since most of the other ASTs were leaked earlier.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom

Which lends more credence to the theory that the Walmart listing is for Optimus Primal, not Optimus Prime, and that it's just misspelled.

You mean the Target listing. This Walmart listing is spelt correctly.

Anywyaus, Earthrise Optimus being rereleased makes sense since that's the toy we see on the Kingdom Artwork.

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Yeah, that's what I meant. And it definitely makes sense to rerelease ER Prime. You've always got to have a Prime in the bigger size classes, and it's not like they could improve much about ER Prime. And having the Leader one means they could put him in Wave 2 so you don't have one of the Wave 1 Leaders repeating.

Hmm... A leader Megatron, I can only think of one version that justifies a Leader class price point, that being Transmetal 2 Megatron, if we do get the Transmetal 2 version, I could see a GS retool into BW Megatron or Cryotek.

Omega-Doom wrote:Hmm... A leader Megatron, I can only think of one version that justifies a Leader class price point, that being Transmetal 2 Megatron, if we do get the Transmetal 2 version, I could see a GS retool into BW Megatron or Cryotek.

The listing says T Rex. The idea is to cover season 1 forms of the cast i believe.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Omega-Doom wrote:Hmm... A leader Megatron, I can only think of one version that justifies a Leader class price point, that being Transmetal 2 Megatron, if we do get the Transmetal 2 version, I could see a GS retool into BW Megatron or Cryotek.

The listing says T Rex. The idea is to cover season 1 forms of the cast i believe.

Well that's disappointing, was hoping we'd get a TM2 version

Omega-Doom wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Omega-Doom wrote:Hmm... A leader Megatron, I can only think of one version that justifies a Leader class price point, that being Transmetal 2 Megatron, if we do get the Transmetal 2 version, I could see a GS retool into BW Megatron or Cryotek.

The listing says T Rex. The idea is to cover season 1 forms of the cast i believe.

Well that's disappointing, was hoping we'd get a TM2 version

Baby steps. It took pretty much Wardens entire reign to finally give some real attention to beast wars, and it is still mixed in with regular G1. So starting with season 1 makes sense. If Kingdom does well, I can certainly see potential for more to come down the line, especially with Warden stepping aside.

Huffer

EDIT: More

Autobot N wrote:Huffer

EDIT: More

So now we're looking at:
Core: Rattrap, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Starscream, 2 Fossilizers
Deluxe (assuming the Target listing count of Deluxes is accurate, since they got Primal's name and the Leader number wrong): Cheetor, Warpath, Blackarachnia, Huffer, Pipes, Slammer, Airazor, Shadow Panther, Tracks, Waspinator, Wheeljack (ER rerelease), Wingfinger (Fossilizer), Ractonite (Fossilizer), 1 other Fossilizer, BW Scorponok, Arcee (ER rerelease)
Voyager: Cyclonus, Optimus Prime Primal, Dinobot, Rhinox, Tigatron, Starscream (ER rerelease), G1 Inferno
Leader: BW Megatron, G1 Galvatron, Ultra Magnus, Optimus Prime (ER rerelease)
Unknown size class: Rodimus Prime (presumably Commander Class with trailer)

EDIT: HE FOUND MORE.

Interesting, they might give wheeljacks chest the correct shape. Can't imagine it being a ER repack with him getting a netflix deco but no telling what Hasbro might do,

blackeyedprime wrote:Interesting, they might give wheeljacks chest the correct shape. Can't imagine it being a ER repack with him getting a netflix deco but no telling what Hasbro might do,

Optimus is getting a rerelease and a Netflix version too though, I dunno that those release methods cancel each other out. The only difference is that Netflix OP is missing the trailer and comes with Battlemasters, compared to the version that's getting rereleased.

Would data for the entire line even be in retailers' systems this early? I'm starting to get skeptical.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Would data for the entire line even be in retailers' systems this early? I'm starting to get skeptical.

Yes. And there's never been a time where a retailer listing was actually wrong. There's been a few times where smaller figures were cancelled (T30 Brawn and Gnaw, plus TR Primal and Toraizer), but those figures were confirmed to have existed at some point.

Did this same guy break the news on every Generations release this year? I'm reading back through a UPC/EAN thread and it looks like he has everything announced this year a few months ahead of official announcements.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Did this same guy break the news on every Generations release this year? I'm reading back through a UPC/EAN thread and it looks like he has everything announced this year a few months ahead of official announcements.

This guy seems to find all of the Walmart stuff. The Target listings from a few days ago were from another guy.

Gotta admit, it takes some of the fun out of the visual reveals, but I have a planning document for figures I'm going to buy that ends before 2021. Looks like I can start filling out next year, too.

Really excited about Huffer and Pipes, they're the last two minibots I need for a full Generations lineup. (The CW ones are no good, sadly.)

Also where the heck is Skids??

I was initially disappointed with Arcee and Wheeljack likely being re-releases, as the deluxe class has been the most consistent in getting new figures and hasn't had any re-releases in the next line yet. I hate the thought of losing some deluxe slots. But, with the Netflix line and SS86 also having some deluxe slots available, I guess it really isn't like losing those slots, they will just get filled elsewhere.

Who knows, maybe we'll finally get the Cybertronian Wheeljack everyone has been begging for for the last two thirty six years.