Transformers: The Last Knight Mission To Cybertron Deluxe Optimus Prime 2-Pack Sighted in California
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Posted by dragons on June 3rd, 2017 @ 6:51am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Question ... and I really would appreciate simple straight up answers.
In regards to Optimus Prime, what versions are actually new molds in the TLK line?
Bumblebee is new
Wave 1 Voyager.
Bumblebee is new figure
Posted by X3ROhour on June 3rd, 2017 @ 7:10am CDT
Infernicus
THE GESTALT REPAINT/RESCULPT OF TFPBH ABOMINUS...
is he made up of the Legends size botmonsters?
or...
better yet
the Deluxe versions of said beasties?
Does anyone have definitive answer
that i somehow missed?
Posted by Kurona on June 3rd, 2017 @ 7:18am CDT
Z3ROhour wrote:MY QUERY IS THUS:
Infernicus
THE GESTALT REPAINT/RESCULPT OF TFPBH ABOMINUS...
is he made up of the Legends size botmonsters?
or...
better yet
the Deluxe versions of said beasties?
Does anyone have definitive answer
that i somehow missed?
Legends.
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 9:25am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 3rd, 2017 @ 9:57am CDT
Burn wrote:Question ... and I really would appreciate simple straight up answers.
In regards to Optimus Prime, what versions are actually new molds in the TLK line?
The voyager is very worth owning IMO.
There is also the Turbo Changer with the mask gimmick. the toy is great but it have NO paint for the bot mode. I FIXED THAT.
Posted by Kurona on June 3rd, 2017 @ 9:58am CDT
Posted by Cyborgraptor on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:07am CDT
Posted by Kotori_Sonoda on June 3rd, 2017 @ 11:19am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Burn wrote:Question ... and I really would appreciate simple straight up answers.
In regards to Optimus Prime, what versions are actually new molds in the TLK line?
The voyager is very worth owning IMO.
.
Minor flaws aside (no wrists, and could use better knee articulation), yeah, i agree. It's a great toy, and also the first toy we have of this design in the voyager scale.
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT
Burn wrote:Question ... and I really would appreciate simple straight up answers.
In regards to Optimus Prime, what versions are actually new molds in the TLK line?
Only the Voyager Optimus mold is truly new for The last Knight when it comes to Optimus toys.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 3rd, 2017 @ 12:20pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Burn wrote:Question ... and I really would appreciate simple straight up answers.
In regards to Optimus Prime, what versions are actually new molds in the TLK line?
Only the Voyager Optimus mold is truly new for The last Knight when it comes to Optimus toys.
The one-step turbo changer is not a completely new mold, along that Bee and Grimlock?
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Burn wrote:Question ... and I really would appreciate simple straight up answers.
In regards to Optimus Prime, what versions are actually new molds in the TLK line?
Only the Voyager Optimus mold is truly new for The last Knight when it comes to Optimus toys.
The one-step turbo changer is not a completely new mold, along that Bee and Grimlock?
I completely forgot that one. Ok fine, it is, and so is this:
As well as this:
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 3rd, 2017 @ 12:33pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 3rd, 2017 @ 12:36pm CDT
So Walmart has "Autobots Unite" and Toys 'R Us has "Mission to Cybertron", correct? Kinda sad that Hot Rod is a retool of Lockdown in almost all incarnations and mostly exclusive to Walmart. He's the Stinger of TLK
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Oof, done catching up with all those exclusive redecos and retools. Good grief!
So Walmart has "Autobots Unite" and Toys 'R Us has "Mission to Cybertron", correct? Kinda sad that Hot Rod is a retool of Lockdown in almost all incarnations and mostly exclusive to Walmart. He's the Stinger of TLK
Did you say mostly because there is that non exclusive Tiny Turbo changer?
And yeah, he is totally the Stinger (which was also a BB inspired bot) but at least we are getting a deluxe here. And plus, the legion is not lockdown but one of the good DOTM legion molds Kanrabat raves about.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 3rd, 2017 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 1:24pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, I give up: who is the Legion a retool of?
Roadbuster
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 3rd, 2017 @ 1:26pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, I give up: who is the Legion a retool of?
Roadbuster
...how so?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 3rd, 2017 @ 1:31pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, I give up: who is the Legion a retool of?
Roadbuster
I'll have to disagree, I checked it and no details match. The transformation is the same aside from the arms, but as far as I can see, it's all-new.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 3rd, 2017 @ 1:36pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, I give up: who is the Legion a retool of?
Roadbuster
I'll have to disagree, I checked it and no details match. The transformation is the same aside from the arms, but as far as I can see, it's all-new.
I think so too. It's not because the transformation is the same that it's the same mold.
Posted by Overcracker on June 3rd, 2017 @ 1:44pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, I give up: who is the Legion a retool of?
Roadbuster
I'll have to disagree, I checked it and no details match. The transformation is the same aside from the arms, but as far as I can see, it's all-new.
I think so too. It's not because the transformation is the same that it's the same mold.
I asked this back in page 119, but was not really satisfied with that answer.
Looking over both molds it looks like the transformation is very very similar, but everything else is different.
If it is a retool, its so extensive, it may as well just be a new mold.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 3rd, 2017 @ 1:46pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:
Yep similar transformation, all new parts. There's only so many ways you can make a converting car robot that small anyway.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:01pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Yep similar transformation, all new parts. There's only so many ways you can make a converting car robot that small anyway.
It looks like rid legion blurr
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:21pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 4:16pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on June 3rd, 2017 @ 4:39pm CDT
I'm sure there are a ton more. I'm just going from memory.
I'm 100% sure that TLK Legion Hot Rod is a new mold without even having it in hand. I do however have Road Buster in my hand right now and nothing about him matches Hot Rod. Except, his transformation.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 3rd, 2017 @ 4:54pm CDT
Turns out changing the car shell on the simple toys isn't necessary as the Deluxe Lockdown is the only licensed toy of that character, the rest is unlicensed approximations. How about that.
Posted by X3ROhour on June 3rd, 2017 @ 7:26pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Z3ROhour wrote:MY QUERY IS THUS:
Infernicus
THE GESTALT REPAINT/RESCULPT OF TFPBH ABOMINUS...
is he made up of the Legends size botmonsters?
or...
better yet
the Deluxe versions of said beasties?
Does anyone have definitive answer
that i somehow missed?
Legends.
POOP
Posted by Sammythekat on June 3rd, 2017 @ 7:30pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Looking at Cogman's neck connection, I have a feeling he might be TR compatible. If so, AWESOME.
"This PREMIER EDITION DELUXE figure can be positioned in exciting, battle ready poses and features an awesome movie-inspired accessory and removable Titan Master head."
read the last 4 words, sir, from the product description
Posted by Zeedust on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:19pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:39pm CDT
Zeedust wrote:Any info yet on if the new torso guy for Infernocus has his own modes or just turns into a torso?
Skulk? I think he just has a torso mode, I don't see any dedicated monster mode bits on him.
Posted by Overcracker on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:49pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Zeedust wrote:Any info yet on if the new torso guy for Infernocus has his own modes or just turns into a torso?
Skulk? I think he just has a torso mode, I don't see any dedicated monster mode bits on him.
Assuming the box is not lying, yes, he's the only one without a monster mode, just robot and torso:
Posted by bacem on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:51pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Zeedust wrote:Any info yet on if the new torso guy for Infernocus has his own modes or just turns into a torso?
Skulk? I think he just has a torso mode, I don't see any dedicated monster mode bits on him.
Assuming the box is not lying, yes, he's the only one without a monster mode, just robot and torso:
that...feels strangely incomplete, for some reason. The fact that the torso bot has no alt mode even tough all his limb bots does makes it feels like he is the only odd one from the team.
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:54pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, I give up: who is the Legion a retool of?
Roadbuster
I'll have to disagree, I checked it and no details match. The transformation is the same aside from the arms, but as far as I can see, it's all-new.
I think so too. It's not because the transformation is the same that it's the same mold.
If it is a retool, its so extensive, it may as well just be a new mold.
Cobotron wrote:I'm 100% sure that TLK Legion Hot Rod is a new mold without even having it in hand. I do however have Road Buster in my hand right now and nothing about him matches Hot Rod. Except, his transformation.
Everybody is talking as if there is a clear definition of what counts as a retool. As far as I know, its not clear. If we take the Hasbro definition of changing the actual physical mold, then most of what you guys consider to be a retool isnt. For instance, PMOP uses new molded parts as well as old magnus parts. They didnt go to the mold and actually change anything, they just made a new one. So its more that PMOP and Ultra Magnus share some parts. But some call it a retool. Or more easily, those new heads we see on redecos (like T30 Dreadwing and Megatron). If the head isnt based on the previous head, then it a new mold and thus nothing was technically retooled.
For me, I look at CAD alterations based on previous designs. It's changing the tooling at the design level and it counts as a retool for me. Just like I consider these guys below retools since they share the same base CAD design built for the transformation (and one came well after the other so we know what is based on what) even though they dont share any parts. I never felt the sharing of parts was essential for a retool, especially since the idea of a retool is that you change a part for it to be different than what it was before.
So by my personal definition, the guys above are retools even though they don't share any parts.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 4th, 2017 @ 12:38am CDT
- Roadbuster has no flip-out heels/feet, but Hot Rod does.
- The arms end up in opposite directions in vehicle mode: Roadbuster's aim up, Hot Rod's aim down
Can we agree on that?
Posted by Evil Eye on June 4th, 2017 @ 7:05am CDT
Nitro looks absolutely awesome and he will be mine. I know some people reckon he'd make a good Thunderwing but...nah. I will say, though, I'm planning on a very silly headcanon for him:
"When Nitro (or whatever I'm gonna end up calling him) underwent the Headmaster process, something went a bit wrong and his head didn't gain the ability to transform. On the plus side, he can still survive decapitation and use his head on compatible bodies like any other Headmaster. Unfortunately, when not connected to a body, his head is, well, just a head. A limbless, immobile head. He's a little bit annoyed about this, as being an aviation enthusiast he was looking forward to getting the opportunity to try out flying some of his favourite human aircraft in his smaller robot mode. He also wishes the Autobot known as Cogman would stop stealing his body and going for joyrides. In his off time he enjoys going to aircraft museums and watching air shows, which would normally attract the scorn of the other Decepticons were it not for the fact he has a tendency to get very, very angry when anyone mocks his hobbies."
Cogman looks a lot of fun and I like that his car mode seats two. A shame his paint (or lack thereof) will probably suck but oh well, I suppose I could repaint him if I really feel the need to.
Both Megatrons look awesome. I was considering having him as the Fallen/Megatronus Prime, but actually, I think he'd make a sweet Liege Maximo.
Hot Rod looks...OK. Not terrible but not great.
Skullitron (DOHOHOHO) is Steelbane with a new headsculpt. Next.
Primus is a nice redeco, reminds me of WFC Cybertron.
Dragonstorm, terrible names aside, looks beastly. I love the combined altmode feature and the dragon mode looks incredible.
Infernocus...Well, the combined mode looks great with the new torso, but the lack of a beast mode for the torso bot and the bland colours suuuuuuuck.
Also, given the recent info releases regarding the new Decepticons, am I the only one who's disppointed we won't get a ROTF Brimstone redeco/retool into Mohawk?
Posted by Kurona on June 4th, 2017 @ 7:26am CDT
Black Hat wrote:Also, given the recent info releases regarding the new Decepticons, am I the only one who's disppointed we won't get a ROTF Brimstone redeco/retool into Mohawk?
That would've been hella. And while it doesn't exactly seem like he'd be a high possibility anyway, I somewhat suspect this is at least partly because the Scout class doesn't exist anymore and TLK only has Legions, not the Generations-size Legends. Might have been nice to see him in some sort of exclusive boxset, though...
Posted by Evil Eye on June 4th, 2017 @ 8:47am CDT
I just realized, not counting ROTF Detour (who is sadly broken, which is a shame as he was a fine figure) I don't own ANY ROTF Scouts. I must fix this at some point. Brimstone is definitely on the list, as is Oil Pan and Ransack.
Anyway, topic. You know who I'm REALLY sad isn't getting a toy (AFAIK)? That WW1 Mark IV Tank Autobot from the snippets we've seen. I dunno if he's actually a separate entity or another body for Cogman, but WW1 tanks are absolutely awesome (unless you're driving one) and we've never had one as a TF altmode.
Posted by Rogue-Primal on June 4th, 2017 @ 10:34am CDT
The store also had 5 of warrior class Barricade, 3 Grimlocks(sold out), of Dinobot Scorn, 4 of that decepticon DoTM SUV with Dreads and surprisingly only 3 bumblebees
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 4th, 2017 @ 10:39am CDT
Rogue-Primal wrote:Just bought TLK Premium Edition Optimus Prime yesterday at my local Toys'R'Us in Iceland. I don't know if this OP is a chase figure for a voyager but i only saw 3 of him for the last weeks and mine was the last one left.
Voyager Optimus is not rare, but he's more in demand than Grimlock because he's a brand new mold.
How do you like him so far?
Posted by bacem on June 4th, 2017 @ 10:50am CDT
Rogue-Primal wrote:
The store also had 5 of warrior class Barricade, 3 Grimlocks(sold out), of Dinobot Scorn, 4 of that decepticon DoTM SUV with Dreads and surprisingly only 3 bumblebees
dinobot scorn? As in, TLK voyager scorn? He comes out already?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 4th, 2017 @ 11:05am CDT
bacem wrote:Rogue-Primal wrote:
The store also had 5 of warrior class Barricade, 3 Grimlocks(sold out), of Dinobot Scorn, 4 of that decepticon DoTM SUV with Dreads and surprisingly only 3 bumblebees
dinobot scorn? As in, TLK voyager scorn? He comes out already?
He may have meant Slash.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 4th, 2017 @ 11:47am CDT
I'mma play with my Sqweeks some more...along with Megatron even though these figures are totally not the right scale.
Posted by Twisted Knight on June 4th, 2017 @ 1:57pm CDT
Posted by Rogue-Primal on June 4th, 2017 @ 2:39pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:bacem wrote:Rogue-Primal wrote:
The store also had 5 of warrior class Barricade, 3 Grimlocks(sold out), of Dinobot Scorn, 4 of that decepticon DoTM SUV with Dreads and surprisingly only 3 bumblebees
dinobot scorn? As in, TLK voyager scorn? He comes out already?
He may have meant Slash.
Me bad sorry for that mistake.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Rogue-Primal wrote:Just bought TLK Premium Edition Optimus Prime yesterday at my local Toys'R'Us in Iceland. I don't know if this OP is a chase figure for a voyager but i only saw 3 of him for the last weeks and mine was the last one left.
Voyager Optimus is not rare, but he's more in demand than Grimlock because he's a brand new mold.
How do you like him so far?
Definitely like him a lot Great poseability and i mostly like the robot form so i havent transformed him yet. I also regret that since hasbros focuses more on melee weapon with movie Prime and no blaster included.
I dont have a lot of compatible guns and all i had left was a this megatron gun from 2006
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 4th, 2017 @ 3:32pm CDT
Twisted Knight wrote:I wish they didn't repaint Lockdown for Hotrod. Especially now that both toys have BAD proportions.
They didn't. He's very similar but got almost all completely new parts. The lower legs are the main thing that's the same. And I think both toys look pretty decent. Only reason I didn't buy Lockdown was because he was far too small as a Deluxe scale robot going up against voyager or leader Optimus Primes. I've still been meaning to get the oversized KO instead.
Posted by RAR on June 4th, 2017 @ 4:37pm CDT
I didn't check to see if it's Hound or someone recognisable - I would doubt that they'd be mischieful enough to make it Cliffjumper though.
I really want a WWII bee toy - but I wouldn't be surprised if we get one next year in the Bee Movie line as a retrospective - I hope anyone who gets in Hasbro's face remembers to keep asking for another go at the 1970's bee too. As I expect 2018 will be the year of many many many Bumblebees.
Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2017 @ 10:40pm CDT
Posted by TFmonkeybiz on June 5th, 2017 @ 3:57am CDT
Kurona wrote:Black Hat wrote:Also, given the recent info releases regarding the new Decepticons, am I the only one who's disppointed we won't get a ROTF Brimstone redeco/retool into Mohawk?
That would've been hella. And while it doesn't exactly seem like he'd be a high possibility anyway, I somewhat suspect this is at least partly because the Scout class doesn't exist anymore and TLK only has Legions, not the Generations-size Legends. Might have been nice to see him in some sort of exclusive boxset, though...
Agreed, I'd also love to get a toy of Dreadbot (who wouldn't want a transforming hippie van?)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 5th, 2017 @ 4:14am CDT
How big will it be?