Transformers: SIEGE Deluxe Lancer teased by Hasbro, new name for Elita-1 Combiner, all current codes for online bios
Thursday, January 3rd, 2019 8:13AM CST
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As a bonus, Survivefan23 has provided us with the access codes for several other Transformers: SIEGE figures on the Teletraan 1 site. Each provides you with a short date file on each character, just as with Greenlight.
Cog: FORTRESSMAXIMUS
Hound: MACCADAMS
Megatron: KAON
Optimus Prime: IACON
Shockwave: TARN
Sideswipe: SUNSTREAKER
Skytread: DUOCON
Ultra Magnus: FORGEOFSOLUS
What do you think of the prospect of having a finished, official roster for the Elita-1 combiner started in Power of the Primes last year? Do you think the "Classified" fourth limb member is none other than Lancer from the original G1 cartoon episode "The Search for Alpha Trion?" Share your theories with your fellow fans in the comments below and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on all things Transformers!
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Posted by Cobotron on January 3rd, 2019 @ 8:30am CST
I wonder if she'll come packed with a Battle Master like Greenlight will?
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 3rd, 2019 @ 8:36am CST
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 3rd, 2019 @ 8:39am CST
Some bonus trivia. The new name for the combination, Orthia (replacing the earlier Elita Infinite), is thought to derive from a Greek goddess Orthia / Artemis Orthia. Artemis is closely associated with the hunt, and the Sanctuary of Artemis Orthia was located in Sparta and represented the coming together of the four villages that made up the citystate. Sparta was a citystate known for its warriors, with its best known pop culture Spartans including Kratos of the God of War series and Leonidas from 300. The fact the name references a sanctuary associated with four villages coming together to form a state known for its warriors is a great way to reference four robots coming together to make a super robot combiner. Thanks to Purple Heart on the TFW2005 boards for sleuthing that one.
That is a really cool reference and very appropriate given the theme of the combiner!
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2019 @ 8:41am CST
Nope. It's new.ZeroWolf wrote:I like how the codes are throw backs in some cases like Magnus's being the Forge of Solus. As for Orthia, where does that name come from? Is there any G1 link with that name?
Posted by Cobotron on January 3rd, 2019 @ 8:43am CST
Nerd time!ZeroWolf wrote:I like how the codes are throw backs in some cases like Magnus's being the Forge of Solus. As for Orthia, where does that name come from? Is there any G1 link with that name?
Orthia is another name for the Greek Goddess, Artemis, or the Roman named Diana. She was the Goddess of the hunt, often seen with a bow and her hunting dogs. So no G1 reference that I can see, but a cool and fitting name none the less.
I know who will be getting to use the Cog Bow!
Edit: Awesomely ninja'd by Lorekeeper!
that bit about unification is super cool!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 3rd, 2019 @ 8:43am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 3rd, 2019 @ 8:45am CST
Posted by no-one on January 3rd, 2019 @ 9:02am CST
She'd make a pretty good buckler in alt-mode. So just an upscaled Micromaster then.Wolfman Jake wrote:I wonder if we can find a fan transformation for SIEGE Chromia to turn her into a weapon for Orthia, kind of like how Piranacon could wield an extra sixth member of the Seacons as a Targetmaster? It would be nice to get the whole female Autobot team together in Orthia and not leave Chromia the odd one out.
Well this is interesting and cool news. I wonder if they will re-release Elita in the Siege line as she getting kinda hard to find at a decent price now?
Edit: found her at two places for a decent price, still curious if we'll see a re-release with Hasbro making a deal out of this.
Posted by Ominous Sand on January 3rd, 2019 @ 9:11am CST
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 3rd, 2019 @ 9:17am CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:I wonder if we can find a fan transformation for SIEGE Chromia to turn her into a weapon for Orthia, kind of like how Piranacon could wield an extra sixth member of the Seacons as a Targetmaster? It would be nice to get the whole female Autobot team together in Orthia and not leave Chromia the odd one out.
Considering her alt mode is basically a stick with wheels, I could totally see this. If you attach her accessories a certain way, she could probably serve as some kind of big gun. Time will tell, I suppose.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on January 3rd, 2019 @ 9:46am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:At least Elita will have the entire team. I wonder why they chose Lancer to be the limb over Chromia. Is it because Chromia is better known? Why didn't they just make both of them limbs, so they can be interchangeable?
I’m totally spit balling. But in IDW didn’t Chromia and Ironhide have a thing? I know her and Windblade were like on&Johnson for a while. So I think they wanted her in Siege, and as we found out they had plenty of ammo for the other limbs.
That said.... I want a Walgreens exclusive repaint for Combiner Chromia lol
Posted by no-one on January 3rd, 2019 @ 10:25am CST
I think so, and they are in the same wave.SpikeyTigertron wrote:I’m totally spit balling. But in IDW didn’t Chromia and Ironhide have a thing?
Posted by Flashwave on January 3rd, 2019 @ 11:22am CST
I skipped the Fems though, cant decide if t
News of a complete (Symmetrical!) Team makes me want to circle back or not
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on January 3rd, 2019 @ 11:39am CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 3rd, 2019 @ 12:27pm CST
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Kind of wish there was a yellow and a blue one. We’d have a rainbow Combiner
Well, Lancer is orange and purple...so, you almost get your wish.
carytheone wrote:Well this is interesting and cool news. I wonder if they will re-release Elita in the Siege line as she getting kinda hard to find at a decent price now?
Edit: found her at two places for a decent price, still curious if we'll see a re-release with Hasbro making a deal out of this.
Elita One got pretty good distribution eventually. She was not too difficult to find. On the other hand, Moonracer was still pretty scarce, due to being short packed in her only wave of distribution, and THAT wave being seemingly short packed itself. Did everyone find Firestorm who wanted her? I never saw her on the pegs out in the wild, but got her from Amazon instead.
SpikeyTigertron wrote:I’m totally spit balling. But in IDW didn’t Chromia and Ironhide have a thing? I know her and Windblade were like on&Johnson for a while. So I think they wanted her in Siege, and as we found out they had plenty of ammo for the other limbs.
Ironhide and Chromia had a thing back in G1 too, just like Inferno and Firestar. Check the last few minutes of the season 2 episode "The Search for Alpha Trion."
Posted by no-one on January 3rd, 2019 @ 12:36pm CST
I thought Moonracer was repacked in a later wave? I remember seeing her, she vanished then I picked her up much later. Hell I saw one at Target on clearance just last week. I've seen plenty of Firestorm at both Target and Walmart.
EDIT: Siege figures back on HTS, deluxes are still 9.99 but out of stock.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 3rd, 2019 @ 12:42pm CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:Nathaniel Prime wrote:Shockwave still looks awesome. About the people saying he isn't worth 50$, hear me out. Siege Shockwave's alt mode would look pretty boring to younger fans, upside down gun and all. The extra bits make for a much more pleasing spaceship. In robot mode, the extra pieces also make the robot mode more interesting, and arguably cooler. I don't want to start a heated debate, but I would love to hear your opinions on the matter. IMO, Shockwave is worth it.
He's between a deluxe & voyager. Way too small for leader prices. I'm hoping Black Mamba or Wei Jiang will make an oversized version.
Oh noes! Look at this guy! Way too small for Leader prices:
OH WAIT:
Posted by Grahf_ on January 3rd, 2019 @ 12:48pm CST
Now we need a Decepticon version lol.
Slipstream or Lyzack from Elita 1. They'd used Starscream's Null Rays instead of the weapons that came with Elita 1 though.
Nightracer, Shadow Striker, Nightbird and Dark Nitro Convoy all from the Moonracer base mold. I tried to keep it "G1" themed but the Moonracer mold would look so good as Dark Nitro Convoy. Others could be Freezon and Flamewar instead of Dark Nitro Convoy. Moonracer would look just as good as Flamewar even though she's normally a motorcycle. I noticed that most of the motor vehicle based female Decepticons are colored predominately black. It's be like Megatronia all over again. Black limbs and a differently colored torso.
The Seige Air Strike Patrol could be used for Blackout and Spaceshot so the combiner can have a sword...knife.
I really miss the original Universe line and all it's random redecos. The CW style figures lend themselves so well to that. I just want a million combiners, even if they use the same 20 something base molds over and over.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 3rd, 2019 @ 12:58pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Why does this Dark of the Moon Leadfoot look so weird?
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 3rd, 2019 @ 1:08pm CST
Because of the super mode and because of electronics powered by AA batteries.
Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2019 @ 1:09pm CST
carytheone wrote:So I was reminded of this by Itscramtastic today: https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/teletraan1 : and decided to go play and enter in the codes form the deluxe boxes I still amazingly have. That got me wondering about the other ones I don't have. Hit the old google search to cheat. Then I noticed there are 51 releases scheduled for 2019, I'm sure this is old news but :poop:
What arevyou referring to? Is there a list?
Posted by no-one on January 3rd, 2019 @ 1:26pm CST
Officially, no. I'm just referring to this:william-james88 wrote:carytheone wrote:So I was reminded of this by Itscramtastic today: https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/teletraan1 : and decided to go play and enter in the codes form the deluxe boxes I still amazingly have. That got me wondering about the other ones I don't have. Hit the old google search to cheat. Then I noticed there are 51 releases scheduled for 2019, I'm sure this is old news but :poop:
What are you referring to? Is there a list?
There are 51 spots for figures (technically there isn't spots for anything below deluxe). I didn't see the TFW post until after I went to the official web page and got curious. There is some pretty good speculation over there.
Wolfman Jake wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:[img]bloat[/img]
Why does this Dark of the Moon Leadfoot look so weird?
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 3rd, 2019 @ 1:38pm CST
Posted by RiddlerJ on January 3rd, 2019 @ 1:44pm CST
Alpha Weltall wrote:Awesome!
Now we need a Decepticon version lol.
Slipstream or Lyzack from Elita 1. They'd used Starscream's Null Rays instead of the weapons that came with Elita 1 though.
Nightracer, Shadow Striker, Nightbird and Dark Nitro Convoy all from the Moonracer base mold. I tried to keep it "G1" themed but the Moonracer mold would look so good as Dark Nitro Convoy. Others could be Freezon and Flamewar instead of Dark Nitro Convoy. Moonracer would look just as good as Flamewar even though she's normally a motorcycle. I noticed that most of the motor vehicle based female Decepticons are colored predominately black. It's be like Megatronia all over again. Black limbs and a differently colored torso.
The Seige Air Strike Patrol could be used for Blackout and Spaceshot so the combiner can have a sword...knife.
I really miss the original Universe line and all it's random redecos. The CW style figures lend themselves so well to that. I just want a million combiners, even if they use the same 20 something base molds over and over.
That sounds nice but I'd prefer they give us limbs to finish off KingScream and Inferno's Combiner.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 3rd, 2019 @ 1:46pm CST
btw We already have a Decepticon version: UW Megatronia
Posted by ThatOneGuy on January 3rd, 2019 @ 1:47pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 3rd, 2019 @ 2:30pm CST
I thought she was Victorion's counterpart...?JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We already have a Decepticon version: UW Megatronia
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 3rd, 2019 @ 2:36pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I thought she was Victorion's counterpart...?JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We already have a Decepticon version: UW Megatronia
In molds, yes, but in concept she could be Othria's rival of some sort, with Megaempress and the 4 Guards being called "Woman Destron" or "Female Decepticons" to counter the "Female Autobots", plus in the bios each has an associate:
Megaempress: Megatron
Lunaclub: Starscream (VERY unwilling so)
Moonheart: Soundwave
Flowspade: Shockwave
Trickdiamond: Swindle
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 3rd, 2019 @ 2:38pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on January 3rd, 2019 @ 2:56pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:I don't understand why the had to make chroma not a combiner even though they used that very same mold as moonracer and novastar but go ahead and make green light and Lancer as a combiner using that same mold
You are not alone. Until just recently I was quite disappointed. But now knowing at least the Female Autobot team will have a proper combiner , it isn't quite as bothersome. I guess Hasbro figured if they were going to release all 6 female Auotobots, one was going to have to be made a smaller legends figure, or left out entirely.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 3rd, 2019 @ 3:00pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 3rd, 2019 @ 3:01pm CST
Been looking at the emblems and it appears she is also a sergeant in the infantry. This is the toyline that just keeps on giving. Named weapons, units, ranks, fun stuff to unlock.
EDIT: well maybe not, appears to be some inconsistencies here.
Which matches Skytread's online, but doesn't match the one on his box or the style of the other Decepticons.
Speaking of the 'Cons, their emblems are a little more complicated than the Autobots.
Hmmm.... all very intriguing
These figures really should have came with collectors cards.
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 3rd, 2019 @ 3:41pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 3rd, 2019 @ 3:49pm CST
And prime would be a runaway hit if his roof wasn't warped; so, all in all, not quite the over-hyped masterpiece he could've been, but I respect the design
I'll probably be swapping him out as soon as I find the voyagers at retail
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 3rd, 2019 @ 4:09pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:maybe they could also finish starscreams combiner with a version of slipstream and novastorm repainted/remolded from darkwing and dreadwind
Did you mean Sunstorm?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 3rd, 2019 @ 4:23pm CST
carytheone wrote:So, I've just been playing around over at https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/teletraan1 off and on all day. Here have some Greenlight info. I know it was newsed, but I'm just getting around to it.
Been looking at the emblems and it appears she is also a sergeant in the infantry. This is the toyline that just keeps on giving. Named weapons, units, ranks, fun stuff to unlock.
EDIT: well maybe not, appears to be some inconsistencies here.
Which matches Skytread's online, but doesn't match the one on his box or the style of the other Decepticons.
Speaking of the 'Cons, their emblems are a little more complicated than the Autobots.
Hmmm.... all very intriguing
These figures really should have came with collectors cards.
Shockwave is part of the "Space Force," eh?
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 3rd, 2019 @ 4:25pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:maybe they could also finish starscreams combiner with a version of slipstream and novastorm repainted/remolded from darkwing and dreadwind
Did you mean Sunstorm?
No
Posted by JChewning on January 3rd, 2019 @ 5:18pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 3rd, 2019 @ 5:43pm CST
Those look very good! And Ultra Markus, if Starscream ever gets completed, it should be with Skywarp and Thundercracker, using the deluxe Starscream mold.JChewning wrote:After I customized mine, here come Greenlight and Lancer! Figures...
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 3rd, 2019 @ 5:56pm CST
JChewning wrote:After I customized mine, here come Greenlight and Lancer! Figures...
Very nice work! You should show those off in the customization forum, if you haven't already.
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 3rd, 2019 @ 6:00pm CST
or any of the other seekers would work tooRodimus Prime wrote:Those look very good! And Ultra Markus, if Starscream ever gets completed, it should be with Skywarp and Thundercracker, using the deluxe Starscream mold.JChewning wrote:After I customized mine, here come Greenlight and Lancer! Figures...
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 3rd, 2019 @ 6:17pm CST
Believe me, I am super glad we are getting Lancer and thus the 3rd all female scramble city combiner. But uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.
So now, I'll have Wreck Gar, Jazz, Ricochet, Sunstreaker, and Prowl to choose from for Infernocus/Sky Reign. with 1 left over.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 3rd, 2019 @ 6:18pm CST
True. But the fact that those 2 didn't see release as repaints of either sized Starscream is a huge oversight on Hasbro's part.Ultra Markus wrote:or any of the other seekers would work tooRodimus Prime wrote:Those look very good! And Ultra Markus, if Starscream ever gets completed, it should be with Skywarp and Thundercracker, using the deluxe Starscream mold.JChewning wrote:After I customized mine, here come Greenlight and Lancer! Figures...
Posted by JChewning on January 3rd, 2019 @ 6:20pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:JChewning wrote:After I customized mine, here come Greenlight and Lancer! Figures...
Very nice work! You should show those off in the customization forum, if you haven't already.
Thanks man! I may just do that!
Posted by 1984forever on January 3rd, 2019 @ 6:57pm CST
I’m guessing that Orthia’s right leg is classified because it’s just Hasbro’s way of saying “you can put whoever you want in this spot, kids.”
Posted by Flashwave on January 3rd, 2019 @ 7:03pm CST
1984forever wrote:I highly doubt Hasbro is going to make a Lancer figure just for the sake of giving fans another all female combiner. I don’t think Hasbro has much faith that the female figures they produce are even going to sell well. Moonracer was shortpacked and Novastar came in a wave that Hasbro knew many retailers would skip, so there’s probably a lot less Novastars made than say, Sinnertwins, because of this. Plus, with the way Greenlight is packaged, I wouldn’t expect her to be as plentiful as say, Chromia- who herself is included in a wave which retailers often neglect- and I expect Chromia to also be shortpacked as well.
I’m guessing that Orthia’s right leg is classified because it’s just Hasbro’s way of saying “you can put whoever you want in this spot, kids.”
Odds are if we get Lancer, and I would say odds are fair to good, she'll be an exclusive like Greenlight is and I am very confidant that the Exclusive Market will support her. I would be inclined to agree with you if we were talking about a mainline release,
Posted by Skritz on January 3rd, 2019 @ 7:06pm CST
1984forever wrote:I highly doubt Hasbro is going to make a Lancer figure just for the sake of giving fans another all female combiner. I don’t think Hasbro has much faith that the female figures they produce are even going to sell well. Moonracer was shortpacked and Novastar came in a wave that Hasbro knew many retailers would skip, so there’s probably a lot less Novastars made than say, Sinnertwins, because of this. Plus, with the way Greenlight is packaged, I wouldn’t expect her to be as plentiful as say, Chromia- who herself is included in a wave which retailers often neglect- and I expect Chromia to also be shortpacked as well.
I’m guessing that Orthia’s right leg is classified because it’s just Hasbro’s way of saying “you can put whoever you want in this spot, kids.”
Well, you never know what might happen. That's what I've noticed with Generations from Prime Wars onward. We saw things we never expected.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 3rd, 2019 @ 7:07pm CST
1984forever wrote:I highly doubt Hasbro is going to make a Lancer figure just for the sake of giving fans another all female combiner. I don’t think Hasbro has much faith that the female figures they produce are even going to sell well. Moonracer was shortpacked and Novastar came in a wave that Hasbro knew many retailers would skip, so there’s probably a lot less Novastars made than say, Sinnertwins, because of this. Plus, with the way Greenlight is packaged, I wouldn’t expect her to be as plentiful as say, Chromia- who herself is included in a wave which retailers often neglect- and I expect Chromia to also be shortpacked as well.
I’m guessing that Orthia’s right leg is classified because it’s just Hasbro’s way of saying “you can put whoever you want in this spot, kids.”
I very much disagree with this. Considering the fan votes where a female was involved has the female winning 2 of the 3 (Windblade and Victorion) and the 3rd was beaten by the Beast Era, and considering they are gradually giving us more girls, such as in cyberverse and even the mainline Generations line, I think the girls are doing well.
Moonracer was shortpacked with Blackwing cause the remaining 3 were Dinobots and Terrorcons, 2 that had set combiners being sold in the line. And she was included in revision waves and i think pretty much everyone got the Novastar they wanted, and there are no reports of her or Moonracer sitting on shelves anywhere.
And Greenlight is going to be much like Red Swoop and Ricochet, an exclusive, cause we are getting more of these now, and those exclusives are pandering to us who want things like to finish the teams. And considering the picture with 4 of the same mold, I would highly doubt Lancer isn't coming. and Classified most likely means "You'll get the reveal soon, maybe at Toy Fair"
Posted by Patrickab7 on January 3rd, 2019 @ 7:14pm CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on January 3rd, 2019 @ 7:30pm CST