Transformers Prime RID Ratchet Instructions Show New Head
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Posted by Doubledealer93 on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:23pm CST
Posted by GetRightRobot on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:26pm CST
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:32pm CST
Doubledealer93 wrote:interesting, ironhide perhaps??
While that's an interesting idea, the head doesn't look like Ironhide. Also I'd guess that the upcoming deluxe Ironhide will be based off of the cyberverse toy, my guess is that this toy will be a random decepticon
Posted by generalstratton on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:36pm CST
Just needs the glasses instead of eyes.
Posted by UltraPrimal on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:36pm CST
Posted by GetRightRobot on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:42pm CST
generalstratton wrote:That head makes me think of a variation of Road Buster.
Just needs the glasses instead of eyes.
Road Buster does seem to fit. Ironhide, however unlikely would be right up the traditional repaint alley. I'd also like to throw a little support to the Flatline idea. It is a contender:
Posted by Hypershock on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:42pm CST
Doubledealer93 wrote:interesting, ironhide perhaps??
nnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooo!!!!! he needs his own mold -.-
the head looks cool, but im rele not sure what that looks like
Posted by Sabrblade on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:44pm CST
Looks nothing like Ironhide.Doubledealer93 wrote:interesting, ironhide perhaps??
He's dead, Jim.GetRightRobot wrote:With Bulkhead coming almost straight out of Animated, I'm going to guess animated Sentinel. Preliminary, but there it is.
Posted by gavinfuzzy on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:47pm CST
Posted by GetRightRobot on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:47pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:He's dead, Jim.GetRightRobot wrote:With Bulkhead coming almost straight out of Animated, I'm going to guess animated Sentinel. Preliminary, but there it is.
At this juncture I would like play the "Timelines" card and negate your logic.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:50pm CST
Aligned Sentinel Prime = Aligned Zeta Prime. Sentinel Zeta Prime is dead.GetRightRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He's dead, Jim.GetRightRobot wrote:With Bulkhead coming almost straight out of Animated, I'm going to guess animated Sentinel. Preliminary, but there it is.
At this juncture I would like play the "Timelines" card and negate your logic.
And I doubt Hasbro would make two same-named individuals this time in this continuity (unless there's some super special reason given for such a case).
Posted by _shaddow_ on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:54pm CST
I'm pretty sure I'm wrong, but I still wanted to point it out anyway.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 25th, 2012 @ 9:57pm CST
Sadly, he's dead too._shaddow_ wrote:I'm going to take a wild guess : I know that Makeshift doesn't look like that at all, but his head still kind of remind me of the character model :
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 25th, 2012 @ 10:12pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Sadly, he's dead too._shaddow_ wrote:I'm going to take a wild guess : I know that Makeshift doesn't look like that at all, but his head still kind of remind me of the character model :
Cliffjumper's got a toy, and he's dead. >_>
Posted by Optillamanus on February 25th, 2012 @ 10:23pm CST
Posted by TheSwipe95 on February 25th, 2012 @ 10:40pm CST
Posted by gavinfuzzy on February 25th, 2012 @ 10:46pm CST
TheSwipe95 wrote:Going by how Classics went (Ratchet was a repaint of Ironhide), I think it's going the same route, only with Ratchet being the original mold.
Since ironhide has a new mold for its cyberverse, i think he would have a new mold for his deluxe too.
Posted by Janus Prime on February 25th, 2012 @ 10:56pm CST
Posted by FanimusMaximus on February 25th, 2012 @ 11:17pm CST
Posted by GetRightRobot on February 25th, 2012 @ 11:32pm CST
gavinfuzzy wrote:TheSwipe95 wrote:Going by how Classics went (Ratchet was a repaint of Ironhide), I think it's going the same route, only with Ratchet being the original mold.
Since ironhide has a new mold for its cyberverse, i think he would have a new mold for his deluxe too.
Although Universe 2.0 aand Generations are different lines, they are very closely related, and examples of legend versus deluxe of one character have varied as much as gavinfuzzy has suggested:
Not totally the same thing, but close.
Posted by Mechastrike on February 25th, 2012 @ 11:47pm CST
Doubledealer93 wrote:interesting, ironhide perhaps??
maybe it's a younger version of Ratchet? i mean Ratchet does look and sound kind of older than the other Autobots in Transformers Prime.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 26th, 2012 @ 12:31am CST
Prime is a different line altogether. They wouldn't just make two entirely different looks for the same character. That would leave one of the two being show-accurate, and the other not. Deluxe Ironhide will most likely look a lot like Cyberverse Ironhide.GetRightRobot wrote:Although Universe 2.0 aand Generations are different lines, they are very closely related, and examples of legend versus deluxe of one character have varied as much as gavinfuzzy has suggested:
Not totally the same thing, but close.
Young Ratchet looked like this.Mechastrike wrote:maybe it's a younger version of Ratchet? i mean Ratchet does look and sound kind of older than the other Autobots in Transformers Prime.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 26th, 2012 @ 1:04am CST
Posted by CrimsonPrime on February 26th, 2012 @ 1:45am CST
Posted by BlackRodimusConvoy on February 26th, 2012 @ 2:37am CST
But as for this new head mold, it is one hell of a longshot, BUT I HOPE IT'S TF PRIME'S KUP!!!!!!!!!
I know Ratchet is kind of already filling that whole Kup persona, but G1 Ratchet was cranky like that too. Kup would be sweet in TF Prime.
Posted by craggy on February 26th, 2012 @ 4:24am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Aligned Sentinel Prime = Aligned Zeta Prime. Sentinel Zeta Prime is dead.GetRightRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He's dead, Jim.GetRightRobot wrote:With Bulkhead coming almost straight out of Animated, I'm going to guess animated Sentinel. Preliminary, but there it is.
At this juncture I would like play the "Timelines" card and negate your logic.
And I doubt Hasbro would make two same-named individuals this time in this continuity (unless there's some super special reason given for such a case).
they've already got 2 completely different Bumblebees; WFC and Prime.
Posted by MarkNL on February 26th, 2012 @ 4:24am CST
BlackRodimusConvoy wrote:The Cyberverse Ironhide does look significantly different, in all of the right ways, and Irohide is my Child hood favorite, so I'm hoping he gets a good deluxe, voyager, and/or leader size figure.
But as for this new head mold, it is one hell of a longshot, BUT I HOPE IT'S TF PRIME'S KUP!!!!!!!!!
I know Ratchet is kind of already filling that whole Kup persona, but G1 Ratchet was cranky like that too. Kup would be sweet in TF Prime.
Now that's interesting too! Kup would be awesome. He'd already popped up in an easter egg in the DS version of War for Cybertron, so who knows...
Posted by craggy on February 26th, 2012 @ 4:25am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Prime is a different line altogether. They wouldn't just make two entirely different looks for the same character. That would leave one of the two being show-accurate, and the other not. Deluxe Ironhide will most likely look a lot like Cyberverse Ironhide.GetRightRobot wrote:Although Universe 2.0 aand Generations are different lines, they are very closely related, and examples of legend versus deluxe of one character have varied as much as gavinfuzzy has suggested:
Not totally the same thing, but close.
Neither Deluxe Ironhide nor Cyberverse Ironhide, nor any million or so other potential size classes and designs will be show accurate, if he doesn't turn up on the show.
Posted by Doubledealer93 on February 26th, 2012 @ 6:36am CST
Posted by griftimus prime on February 26th, 2012 @ 6:48am CST
Posted by Baneblade on February 26th, 2012 @ 7:15am CST
GetRightRobot wrote:Not many fans have been able to get their hands on the Transformers Prime Robots in Disguise Deluxe Ratchet. However, if you have been lucky enough to score one, you may want to open up the instruction sheet. Their appears to be a new head on Ratchet for the inevitable repaint. Take a look at the pics below or click here to view the original post by Junior over at TFW2005.com
has no one ever thought that it could have been a prototype head that they used before the final design was rendered up?
lets rule out the following then;
Ironhide has a new mould in the cyberverse line, so they have already established that they could upscale that mould and release it as part of the main figure line. In fact its easier to make a smaller scale model and then upscale it with the computer software, as the 3x or 5x upscale is where its designed on the computer.
Ratchet's new look head could be a prototype - or it could be a screwup with the image (mostlikely a screw up with the image department in producing the instruction scans being the better option.)
if it is a repaint, then i have a feeling that it will be either a non descript decepticon, or they will be reusing the name to protect the i.p/copyright of the name. i guess its the waiting game
Posted by Chaoslock on February 26th, 2012 @ 8:40am CST
Posted by Starscream GaGa on February 26th, 2012 @ 8:54am CST
Sabrblade wrote:]Young Ratchet looked like this.
I'll see that and raise you:
Posted by Ungie on February 26th, 2012 @ 9:44am CST
Posted by TheDownshift on February 26th, 2012 @ 11:27am CST
Hoist.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 26th, 2012 @ 12:11pm CST
WFC Bumblebee = Prime Bumblebee. WFC Bumblebee loses his voice (in two differently documented ways, but he does lose it).craggy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Aligned Sentinel Prime = Aligned Zeta Prime. Sentinel Zeta Prime is dead.GetRightRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He's dead, Jim.GetRightRobot wrote:With Bulkhead coming almost straight out of Animated, I'm going to guess animated Sentinel. Preliminary, but there it is.
At this juncture I would like play the "Timelines" card and negate your logic.
And I doubt Hasbro would make two same-named individuals this time in this continuity (unless there's some super special reason given for such a case).
they've already got 2 completely different Bumblebees; WFC and Prime.
Artistic liberties due to two different animation studios and art styles.Starscream GaGa wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Young Ratchet looked like this.
I'll see that and raise you:
Plus, it's told from Ratchet, who was not present during any of the events he described in that flashback to witness them personally.
Here's what Orion Pax and Megatronus/Megatron really looked like back then:
Posted by Hypershock on February 26th, 2012 @ 12:26pm CST
Baneblade wrote:GetRightRobot wrote:Not many fans have been able to get their hands on the Transformers Prime Robots in Disguise Deluxe Ratchet. However, if you have been lucky enough to score one, you may want to open up the instruction sheet. Their appears to be a new head on Ratchet for the inevitable repaint. Take a look at the pics below or click here to view the original post by Junior over at TFW2005.com
has no one ever thought that it could have been a prototype head that they used before the final design was rendered up?
lets rule out the following then;
Ironhide has a new mould in the cyberverse line, so they have already established that they could upscale that mould and release it as part of the main figure line. In fact its easier to make a smaller scale model and then upscale it with the computer software, as the 3x or 5x upscale is where its designed on the computer.
Ratchet's new look head could be a prototype - or it could be a screwup with the image (mostlikely a screw up with the image department in producing the instruction scans being the better option.)
if it is a repaint, then i have a feeling that it will be either a non descript decepticon, or they will be reusing the name to protect the i.p/copyright of the name. i guess its the waiting game
why would they have a complete design of a figure and design a new head just to not use it?
the same thing happened with wfc cliffjumper, wfc bumblebee had cliffs head in the insturctions and thereby revealed wfc cliffjumper
Posted by Godzillabot Primal on February 26th, 2012 @ 1:56pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 26th, 2012 @ 2:06pm CST
But it's the Ratchet mold.Godzillabot Primal wrote:Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.
Posted by kirbenvost on February 26th, 2012 @ 2:22pm CST
But anyway, I have no idea who this could be. I'm guessing some random new character, but it's possible they could surprise us.
Posted by Hypershock on February 26th, 2012 @ 2:23pm CST
Godzillabot Primal wrote:Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.
nah, breakdown's more squarish, he has a lot of angles
Posted by NovaSentinel on February 26th, 2012 @ 3:33pm CST
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on February 26th, 2012 @ 4:17pm CST
Posted by munkimus prime on February 26th, 2012 @ 4:44pm CST
Posted by Godzillabot Primal on February 26th, 2012 @ 5:52pm CST
Hypershock wrote:Godzillabot Primal wrote:Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.
nah, breakdown's more squarish, he has a lot of angles
Good point, maybe Gears? They are going to have to do some none-cartoon characters in order to keep this toyline afloat
Posted by Baneblade on February 26th, 2012 @ 8:17pm CST
Godzillabot Primal wrote:Hypershock wrote:Godzillabot Primal wrote:Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.
nah, breakdown's more squarish, he has a lot of angles
Good point, maybe Gears? They are going to have to do some none-cartoon characters in order to keep this toyline afloat
if it is a repaint with a different head sculpt, then it might be traibreaker/trailblazer/trail-whateverigiveup
Posted by Arlekkin on February 27th, 2012 @ 3:35am CST
2002 — Ratchet the Japanese Micron Legend name for Armada Red Alert.
Posted by Starscream GaGa on February 27th, 2012 @ 4:50am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Artistic liberties due to two different animation studios and art styles.
That can be used against your reason for that not being Cybertron Ratchet too, although I personally think its highly unlikely that they'd make a Cybertron Ratchet that has an Earth alt-mode and a completely different head.
I know that's what they looked like in the Exodus comic (although they called it WFC), but I don't think that represents what they would've looked like in Prime. They were just cashing in on WFC.
kirbenvost wrote:I'm still continuing to treat WFC/FOC and Prime as two different continuities, regardless of what Hasbro states. They're just too different to me.
WFC is completely incompatible with Prime. Exodus is slightly more compatible if you are REALLY lenient with what you are willing to ignore the large amount of continuity differences. But I suppose that's OK because Exodus was TERRIBLY written and contradicts itself constantly throughout the novel. Anyway, WFC is NOT the same story as Exodus, despite what Hasbro says. They are completely different having far less similarities than differences to each other. Hasbro's whole aligned continuity is stupid and I believe should just be ignored.
Sorry! I went off topic there, but was just putting my two cents in.
Posted by RhA on February 27th, 2012 @ 5:26am CST
Posted by gavinfuzzy on February 27th, 2012 @ 6:19am CST
RhA wrote:It's going to be Rescue Bumlbebee.
I can't wait !