Transformers Power of the Primes Voyager Class Grimlock and Starscream Listed on Smyths Website in the UK

Guys, I have some bad news. I just bought all of wave 1 aside from the Primes Masters and Leaders and that Grimlock is probably the worst figure. He is a great big piece of shit that wont stay tabbed in and with ugly ass gaps. The other two deluxe dinobots I have dont suffer much from the added combiner gimmick but Grimlock does, A LOT.

Man I wish local stores had displays and shelves like this. I suspect they most likely will be stuck with Titans Return leftovers for the next 3-4 months...

Speaking of Enigmas and Matrices: anybody find it odd that the Engimas are all different, yet the Matrix Cores are all the same sculpt?

Grimlock definitely does not do it for me with that alt mode....which is pretty key for him. I wasn't crazy about Slag, so I skipped on him, too -- but I love Slash & Swoop. I'm interested in Snarl, though! We'll see how PotP Snarl looks in-person before I decide.

william-james88 wrote:Guys, I have some bad news. I just bought all of wave 1 aside from the Primes Masters and Leaders and that Grimlock is probably the worst figure. He is a great big piece of **** that wont stay tabbed in and with ugly ass gaps. The other two deluxe dinobots I have dont suffer much from the added combiner gimmick but Grimlock does, A LOT.

Well that doesn't sound great. Anyone else have any at least decent experiences with him or should I just cancel my preorder?

Bronzewolf wrote:We have some pretty big news for UK Transformers fans thanks to ToyBoxSoapBox over on twitter! English toy retailer Smyths has just put up listings for the Transformers Power of the Primes wave 1 Voyager class figures! Yes, two new listings for Voyager Grimlock and Starscream have cropped up, and, while currently out of stock, do offer up some new stock photos! These photos are a much better representation of the new figures than the traditional Hasbro photography. Check out a couple mirrored below, and then check out the rest over on the Smyths Website!








These listings will definitely be ones to watch if you live in the UK and are interested in adding these brand new figures to your collection!

Stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Transformers News and Reviews from all around the world!

They are also listed on the Irish Smyths site as well for €29 which makes them cheaper that the Titans Return Voyagers.

https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/toy ... /164587001

<Venting stuff about Smyths>

Hey nemesisorion, that was a mighty fine rant of yours, but it was a little over the top. You're more than welcome to vent your frustrations but do it within the rules of the forums.

Cheers.

Knightsword wrote:The Matrix
The Enigma of Combination

Probably not. The first one only vaguely looks like a Matrix, I feel like Hasbro would have gone for something a little more on the nose and easily recognized as a Matrix. The second one I would think it was an Enigma it would have five points to represent the five members instead of six.

I'm probably wrong, but I'm going with the top being Primus and the bottom being Unicron. The first one reminds me of the circular formations on the surface of Cybertron while the second reminds me of Unicron's planet jaws as seen in G1 (not the clamping jaws from the Unicron Trilogy).

Emerje

HTS has free shipping today with code 12DEALS. I just ordered the 3 Prime Masters. Woohoo!

The images mirrored below are courtesy of regular news source Tf-factory on social media platform Weibo, and show a number of upcoming figures, or rather, their packaging, from Transformers Power of the Primes. Specifically, we have the bios and back of Voyagers Elita-1, Inferno and Hun Gurr, plus Deluxe Moonracer
and, in a surprising twist in the books, we have a new small teaser of a figure not previously known to make its appearance - character or mold - in the toyline: the back of packaging card for a Decepticon Blast Off, which looks suspiciously similar to the Takara Tomy version of the character in the Unite Warriors release for Bruticus (the Japanese version of Combiner Wars).

Take a look at all of them below, and let us know what you think of the surprising find amidst all the known upcoming waves of combiner figures, in this final chapter of the Prime Wars Trilogy toylines.

How come Blast Off is covered and has 4 languages and the others don't.

Since Blast Off mentions Bruticus, does this mean they'll reissue the Combaticons?

Blast Off definitely looks completely different from the other POTP packaging, which leads me to believe that it's fake

I ended up getting blast off online months ago but this weekend but this weekend while looking at him I thought power of the Primes would be a line they could release him. Maybe a slight toning of the chest to put the armor gimmick on and a new hand and he’d pass as a figure for it. Like I said while I do the takara one I don’t like his colors at all and if Hasbro releases him with the dark brown and purple I’ll get it.

Emerje wrote:

Knightsword wrote:The Matrix
The Enigma of Combination

Probably not. The first one only vaguely looks like a Matrix, I feel like Hasbro would have gone for something a little more on the nose and easily recognized as a Matrix. The second one I would think it was an Enigma it would have five points to represent the five members instead of six.

I'm probably wrong, but I'm going with the top being Primus and the bottom being Unicron. The first one reminds me of the circular formations on the surface of Cybertron while the second reminds me of Unicron's planet jaws as seen in G1 (not the clamping jaws from the Unicron Trilogy).

Emerje

The CW Combiners were all 6 members. Plus that is the symbol that is actually on the enigmas that come with the PotP Voyagers.

xMXUx wrote:Blast Off definitely looks completely different from the other POTP packaging, which leads me to believe that it's fake

Yeah, there's no cross-sell or even a POTP logo on his.

xMXUx wrote:Blast Off definitely looks completely different from the other POTP packaging, which leads me to believe that it's fake

To me it is either fake, or an indication that shuttle Blast Off is not going to be a regular release. May Mayhem or part of a box set perhaps? The multiple languages make me think it is for some type of special release where they can use the same packaging everywhere.

Hopefully Will just got a crappy pull from the QC lottery, but then again, grimlock is an entire thread worth of questionable design choices to begin with (why are the combiner ports on the outside of the feet when they could easily be hid on the inside of the feet and be invisible in dino mode? why was the chest molding split on the Y axis instead of the X axis? where is his crown? starscream gets one and hes not king, grimlock is king! why am I still going to buy this figure, despite all its flaws and already having the silver knight 2-pack grimlock, which frankly does fine as a g1 grimlock?)

Thinking Blast Off is a store exclusive. Packaging reminds me off Groove's, but I don't have a spare Groove to compare (and at work). Blast Off's inclusion in a post other figures we know about lends to the likelihood this is similar to previous exclusive released such as Groove and previous CW members.

Blastoff! Finally! Curious to see if they reminded his HFG into prime armor. Also it looks like he comes with a special edition megatronus? He's the only PM on blastoff's packaging and seems to be cast in different-colored plastic than on the other boxes.

EDIT: Megatronus also suggests the image isn't fake. Molding looks identical between pictures, and when have we ever seen him at that angle?

durroth wrote:Hopefully Will just got a crappy pull from the QC lottery=

Qc isnt really the issue here (aside from maybe the tabbing), its just a poor ass design.

Sabrblade wrote:

xMXUx wrote:Blast Off definitely looks completely different from the other POTP packaging, which leads me to believe that it's fake

Yeah, there's no cross-sell or even a POTP logo on his.

Which means its not part of POTP but a single release outside the line. It makes sense to finally release him now since we are back in combiners.

Quantum Surge wrote:Since Blast Off mentions Bruticus, does this mean they'll reissue the Combaticons?

No.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, that's where the whole "15 Prime symbols" came from...

I'm so glad for that picture as well. I thought I was going crazy when I posted about the 15 symbols a while back and nobody believed me.

Also, I find obviously mileage on individual figures varies. I've been fortunate not to have many of the QC issues people are reporting. A couple reviews I've seen for Grimlock are surprisingly favorable. Not that I should suggest you purchase multiple toys, but Hasbro Customer Service may want to compensate anyone who is genuinely unsatisfied with the product they purchased.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

xMXUx wrote:Blast Off definitely looks completely different from the other POTP packaging, which leads me to believe that it's fake

To me it is either fake, or an indication that shuttle Blast Off is not going to be a regular release. May Mayhem or part of a box set perhaps? The multiple languages make me think it is for some type of special release where they can use the same packaging everywhere.

First of all - I DID IT!!!

I mean... I know it wasn't actually me... But I did make a directed request for this on Twitter. It would appear I will be getting EXACTLY what I asked for becauuuuuse -

Secondly, the packaging doesn't look fake, but rather, it looks like Skrapnel's packaging. Which MEANS it probably has the Hand-foot-gun and no Prime Master compatibility.

I have hope.

This Blastoff intrigues me a bit. If it's fake, then so be it, I've got my UW one. If it isn't however, I'm sure this will please many fans eager to get the single release. I myself however *may* also obtain one if I find the QC issues are fixed. The original release UW Blastoff's head pops off every time it's transformed, and the bottom section doesn't stay tabbed in when in arm mode. This was all fixed with UW Strafe that used the same mold. Not sure about Shuttler as I don't have Baldigus yet...

But if the color scheme is noticeably different and the QC issues fixed...and its not a hoax... Still I'm holding out hope for other new deluxes down the line to fill out the Voyager Torso's revealed far. I now many people are speculating that these are all just extra Voyagers, but I still remain cautiously optimistic.

Knightsword wrote:Plus that is the symbol that is actually on the enigmas that come with the PotP Voyagers.

All Engimas are differently sculpted, but they do follow a similar design aesthetic, maybe following one of those symbols.

Pretty odd that the cards for the Deluxes are the EU variants...

As for Blast Off, yes please. I will agree with the possibility it's an exclusive, but to what store... we still have a Wreck-Gar at Walgreens that's unaccounted for.

Taking a close look at Megatronus' arms... they match the design of Liege Maximo & Skullgrin, pointing to our third Prime Master retool of the line, after Metalhawk into Landmine, and Cloudburst into Waverider.

Maybe he’ll be a spring online exclusive like the others have been.

YAAAAAAY now I don't have to buy the UW Bruticus to get that awesome Blast Off.

This pleases me...

I've been hoping that Hasbro/Takara had found an under-the-table way to give us G2 Defensor — at least in combined mode (and with a head swap here and there.) With a release of Inferno and the purported Wreck Gar (assumed orange repaint of Groove), we're on the way. Maybe we will see their intent when they reveal the combiner head.

Probably a pipe dream tho.

This Blast Off looks to be in white and black — much like Shuttle Gunner from Battle Gaia... or G2 Blast Off. (you can see through the scribbles in some places) Kinda bummed we don't get a G1 toy color version... and that this would leave us with yet another unfinished rando combiner.

Will probably look great, though.

Still hoping for some names and bios for these combiners, Hasbro!! (not just instructions showing random assemblages with dinos and decepticons and cars all mashed together)

gothsaurus wrote:This Blast Off looks to be in white and black — much like Shuttle Gunner from Battle Gaia... or G2 Blast Off. (you can see through the scribbles in some places) Kinda bummed we don't get a G1 toy color version... and that this would leave us with yet another unfinished rando combiner.

Look closer around the cockpit area, I see some brown peeking through around the windows.

That's nice that Hasbro might finally be getting around to release the space shuttle version of Blast Off that Takara made for Unite Warriors. If it's dark brown, I may pick it up, despite having the UW version. However, has Hasbro considered that some people may want a G2 color version of shuttle Blast Off instead/as well? Maybe they could do a short run of the G2 Bruticus box set using the shuttle Blast Off mold AND correct the Decepticon symbols to be the G2 versions at the same time? That was seriously lame how they used the G2 symbols for Superion and Menasor, but completely dropped the ball on Bruticus. Another short run of G2 Bruticus would be a good companion piece to the speculated G2 Defensor box set now that combiners are back in vogue a la Power of the Primes.

I'm really digging those three newly-revealed Prime Masters, especially Quintus and Megatronus.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

xMXUx wrote:Blast Off definitely looks completely different from the other POTP packaging, which leads me to believe that it's fake

Yeah, there's no cross-sell or even a POTP logo on his.

Which means its not part of POTP but a single release outside the line.

Then why include the mention of the Megatronus Prime Master?

gothsaurus wrote:I've been hoping that Hasbro/Takara had found an under-the-table way to give us G2 Defensor — at least in combined mode (and with a head swap here and there.) With a release of Inferno and the purported Wreck Gar (assumed orange repaint of Groove), we're on the way. Maybe we will see their intent when they reveal the combiner head.

Probably a pipe dream tho.

Nah man! Gotta get the legit G2 set. I don't care if I'm getting a bunch or repaints/retools. Defensor is the coolest of the G1 combiners, and I'm sick of him being left out!



Also, what Jelze said. Looking like CW-Brown to me. I Am hoping for a G2 one ALSO, though.

gothsaurus wrote:I've been hoping that Hasbro/Takara had found an under-the-table way to give us G2 Defensor — at least in combined mode (and with a head swap here and there.) With a release of Inferno and the purported Wreck Gar (assumed orange repaint of Groove), we're on the way. Maybe we will see their intent when they reveal the combiner head.

The artwork for the head was shown a while back, and it is identitcal to Defensor. I had not considered this, I was kind of hoping might release Guard City. Best case scenario, we could have both .

I hope you guys are right on the shuttle color! And same with G2 Defensor set. I truly want a box set of that guy. Hoping they can find the right venue for it for all of us who are waiting with our fingers on the BUY IT NOW button.

Blast Off is probably a May mayhem exclusive, hence the weird packaging and inclusion of the "fallen" Megatronus prime master.

o.supreme wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:I've been hoping that Hasbro/Takara had found an under-the-table way to give us G2 Defensor — at least in combined mode (and with a head swap here and there.) With a release of Inferno and the purported Wreck Gar (assumed orange repaint of Groove), we're on the way. Maybe we will see their intent when they reveal the combiner head.

The artwork for the head was shown a while back, and it is identitcal to Defensor. I had not considered this, I was kind of hoping might release Guard City. Best case scenario, we could have both .

My hope is that it is an "Under-the-table" version of Guard City.

Given that this trilogy has really come through on the more reasonable fan-requests, I could see this being Guard City, and still getting a G2 Defensor set at some point.

NOW

For a more unreasonable request... UW versions of the Technobots in the mainstream release!

And wow. That head looks really red on new-Defensor-guy. The way things are going, I guess I may have to put up a new shelf for red-combiner-torso-guys-only. (ha ha ha) Here's hoping for both box sets – G2 and Guard City/Battle Gaia.

I DO hope they eventually get around to at least finishing out a 5-bot femmebot. We know they have plans to round out Volcanicus and Abominus (in spite of the dinos hanging around on Inferno's leg there.) So the limb combinations shown in the artwork aren't 100% proof of the intended pairings... or of who is coming out and who isn't. Guessing that's all just based on the order of release for the waves.

Chromia & Greenlight are on my list, Hasbro! Make it happen!!

gothsaurus wrote:Guessing that's all just based on the order of release for the waves.

Eh, no. I'm looking at the side of Grimlock's box and spotting Sludge as his right leg, and Snarl's golden feet on the left leg, both Wave 2 figures. Plus, Abominus's leaked art shows him with all 5 Terrorcons, despite 3 of them coming a wave later than Hun-Gurrr.

gothsaurus wrote:And wow. That head looks really red on new-Defensor-guy. The way things are going, I guess I may have to put up a new shelf for red-combiner-torso-guys-only. (ha ha ha) Here's hoping for both box sets – G2 and Guard City/Battle Gaia.

Chromia & Greenlight are on my list, Hasbro! Make it happen!!

How's this for a Guard City?:

Inferno - Red Alert - Evac (with a weird deco) - Ratchet - some-motorcycle-guy... Wreck-Gar, I guess?

Clockwork Animations wrote:YAAAAAAY now I don't have to buy the UW Bruticus to get that awesome Blast Off.

This pleases me...

It’s teally not that awesome. It’s kind of the worst proportioned and stable figure out them all and QC issues vary from fine to wtf

I'm really excited for the shuttle mode Blast Off. I own UW Shuttler, and it's such a fantastic figure. I know it's probably hoping for too much, but I really would love to see a G2 version to round out the box set. Inferno is a neat addition, but the lack of a new Combiner head feels lazy and cheap to me. I'm with the people who want a proper G2 Defensor. I would also totally buy a Battle Gaia and Guard City, even if I had to pay Takara prices for them.

Randomhero wrote:

Clockwork Animations wrote:YAAAAAAY now I don't have to buy the UW Bruticus to get that awesome Blast Off.

This pleases me...

It’s teally not that awesome. It’s kind of the worst proportioned and stable figure out them all and QC issues vary from fine to wtf

I didn't have any qc issues with Shuttler, but maybe I was just lucky. I like the way he looks, but that could be because TT reassembled him to flip his chest and back. The same can easily be done with Blast Off by popping of his arms and swapping them.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Clockwork Animations wrote:YAAAAAAY now I don't have to buy the UW Bruticus to get that awesome Blast Off.

This pleases me...

It’s teally not that awesome. It’s kind of the worst proportioned and stable figure out them all and QC issues vary from fine to wtf

I didn't have any qc issues with Shuttler, but maybe I was just lucky.

From all reports, Shuttler didn't have any of the QC issues Blast Off had, but that could have been in part due to the retooling done to give Shuttler his backwards torso transformation compared to Blast Off.

Sabrblade wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Clockwork Animations wrote:YAAAAAAY now I don't have to buy the UW Bruticus to get that awesome Blast Off.

This pleases me...

It’s teally not that awesome. It’s kind of the worst proportioned and stable figure out them all and QC issues vary from fine to wtf

I didn't have any qc issues with Shuttler, but maybe I was just lucky.

From all reports, Shuttler didn't have any of the QC issues Blast Off had, but that could have been in part due to the retooling done to give Shuttler his backwards torso transformation compared to Blast Off.

Yeah and Strafe had some of the same QC issues blastoff had. Trust me I own both. If it’s real and they’re gonna use the takara mold the real question is which mold is takara lending out? The old one or the modified one that fixed issues.

There was retooling on Shuttler? I honestly thought you simply turned the head around.

That Blast Off looks so Photoshopped.

RustedCross wrote:There was retooling on Shuttler? I honestly thought you simply turned the head around.

The torso is turned 180 and the arms are switched. But there was a minor functional retool to make the hinge the head is on less prone to popping out. Such tweaks are usually permanent, so we can safely expect Hasbro Shuttle Blast Off to feature it.

Question is, what would anyone do with Jet Blast Off?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RustedCross wrote:There was retooling on Shuttler? I honestly thought you simply turned the head around.

The torso is turned 180 and the arms are switched. But there was a minor functional retool to make the hinge the head is on less prone to popping out. Such tweaks are usually permanent, so we can safely expect Hasbro Shuttle Blast Off to feature it.

Question is, what would anyone do with Jet Blast Off?

My jet blast off makes up a leg for Grand scourge along with Terrorsaur, Off-road and Hasbro Vortex. I really hope this Blast Off is in toy colors so I can replace Terrorsaur and have a more unified Grand Scourge.