Transformers Movie Kre-O Microchangers Wave 2 Revealed

Nice! It's been so long I forgot what the previous wave was. Anybody notice what looks like a new (Wheeljack?) helmet on Sunstreaker?

Nope that's Wheeljacks head. I wish these would turn up more in the UK. My local Morrisons still has 2 full boxes of Wave 2 and I have never seen Wave 3 in retail, let alone the second or third wave of the Combiners

Oh, now they get the "Trailbreaker" name back.

And "Decepticon Blackarachnia"? Don't tell me they lost her name now, too.

"Decepticon" Blackarachnia? So they lost the rights to her name too, or only have it trademarked parsed into two words so they want to cover all their bases, or some other toy company's actually using it...?

Haven't collected these yet, but if her Kreon's the least bit more show-accurate than her original Tarantulas repaint in some way, this may be the wave that gets its foot in the door to my collection. BW Kreons are more versatile than most anyway, because they can sort of scale properly with most regular G1 toys.

Bumblevivisector wrote:"Decepticon" Blackarachnia? So they lost the rights to her name too, or only have it trademarked parsed into two words so they want to cover all their bases, or some other toy company's actually using it...?

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, now they get the "Trailbreaker" name back. :roll:

And "Decepticon Blackarachnia"? Don't tell me they lost her name now, too.

I think it has more to do with the area the trademark has been applied for. We should still have "Blackarachnia" and "Trailbreaker" is normally out of reach for regular "Boys' Toys", but "Construction Sets" is a whole new area with a slightly different availability. See "Kre-O Sinnertwin" vs. "Prime Twinstrike" >:oP

And finally we have a Skalor!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I think it has more to do with the area the trademark has been applied for. We should still have "Blackarachnia" and "Trailbreaker" is normally out of reach for regular "Boys' Toys", but "Construction Sets" is a whole new area with a slightly different availability. See "Kre-O Sinnertwin" vs. "Prime Twinstrike" >:oP

And finally we have a Skalor!

That makes sense, but I'm still scratching my head over Kre-O Sinnertwin, since when Twinstrike was announced, a lot of us thought Hasbro just wouldn't risk putting "Sinner" on any toy, period.

And yes, I'm technically happy about the completion of the Kre-O Seacons; heck, I'm ecstatic whenever I see the Piranacon set in stores. But then I look closer at the actual figures, and think of all the Arms Microns I could be saving up for instead. No, I won't be buying too many exceptions from this line besides DB, and even she's still a maybe.

Well, Blackarachnia certainly looks...masculine...

Fuselage appears to be Octane and Skimmer might be DOTM Air Raid.

Sabrblade wrote:Fuselage appears to be Octane and Skimmer might be DOTM Air Raid.

Good call! I am spotting oddities in the form of Trailbreaker and Scattershot, as they already have figures in the Kreon line-up. Movie versions perhaps?

Blackarachnia, Skalor, and Sea Spray are must haves. I could pass on the rest.
Definitely going to give Sea Spray the diver helmet and flippers.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Fuselage appears to be Octane and Skimmer might be DOTM Air Raid.

Good call! I am spotting oddities in the form of Trailbreaker and Scattershot, as they already have figures in the Kreon line-up. Movie versions perhaps?

There are 2 versions of scattershot, right? G1 Technobot and the missile launcher from cybertron. So who is this new guy?

i still havent seen the last 2 waves in my area, granted the only one i want from those is hot rod but still. As for these guys blackarachnia looks interesting, if these actually show up in my area i might get her.

Try walgreens or a other pharmacies. I have only seen wave 4 at Walgreens and my
Local comic shop.

They make Wheelie before Blurr. That's insulting.

kirbenvost wrote:Nice! It's been so long I forgot what the previous wave was. Anybody notice what looks like a new (Wheeljack?) helmet on Sunstreaker?

I'm thinking cut off the facemask part and it will be accurate.......

^ MHawk44 (from TFW) did just that --and a few other mods-- on his custom Sunstreaker, it turned out great!


It's about time they reused that Wheeljack helmet. Thought they'd have done a Slicer by now...

Whooooooooo! Wheelie!

I'm getting about half this wave but the only one I care about is Wheelie. Then again I said I only wanted Hot Rod out of the last wave and ended up with nearly all of them eventually so that's probably going to happen again. Though why another Trailbreaker? He got a single set along with Windcharger form Beast Hunters.

C'mere you little Kreon crack

So, what exactly makes these movie Kreons? I can't name a single one of these that appeared in the movies (from what I can remember, it has been a while), except for Wheelie. And even Wheelie seems to be G1 based. Did they just restart the numbering on the Micro-Changer series?

Darth Jumpy wrote:So, what exactly makes these movie Kreons? I can't name a single one of these that appeared in the movies (from what I can remember, it has been a while), except for Wheelie. And even Wheelie seems to be G1 based. Did they just restart the numbering on the Micro-Changer series?

They're movie in name only. The main sets are AoE style, wouldn't make sense business-wise to make another subset for the Kre-O Transformers line. Besides, some figures are Movie style in that they supplement the Combiner sets, like Torosaur, Skrapnel and Silversnout from Wave 1, and Frostbite from this wave. I can't tell who belongs to what combiner tho.

Obviously they wouldn't include the bots in the big sets in these waves, but there's a whole trilogy's worth of characters without Kreons they could have done. Barricade, Frenzy, Blackout, Bonecrusher, the Dreads, Sideswipe, Starscream, Megatron, the Fallen, Jetfire, Ironhide...

The Transformers Facebook page gives us official and high-def look at the upcoming Kre-O MV4 Micro changers wave 2. The following is included with wave 2.

• Sunstreaker
• Decepticon Skalor
• Trailbreaker
• Autobot Seaspray
• Scattershot
• Autobot Wheelie
• Frostbite
• Skimmer
• Decepticon Blackarachnia
• Decepticon Runamuck
• Autobot Gears
• Fuselage

I think they could've done so much better on Beachcomber, Null rays? Seriously, there was no way to get some shoulder mounted round things?

Still confused by who the hell Scattershot is intended to be. Meanwhile, Skimmer over there looks like the new character find of the century.

Downbeat wrote:Still confused by who the hell Scattershot is intended to be. Meanwhile, Skimmer over there looks like the new character find of the century.

And it's finally back to ScattErshot instead of Unicron Trilogy ScattOrshot, otherwise I'd guess he was supposed to be Scattor, the middle Energon Saber jet.

And am I the only one who thinks Skimmer bears an intentional resemblance to Bristleback? Ah, if only they hadn't loudened Abominus's colors to resemble the Prime Terrorpreds, they might've done a Kreo Monstructor...

Scattershot = Universe/ROTF Airazor

Aren't there any Autobot jets that aren't white? The Aerialbots are white jets, Strafe is a white jet, Jetfire's a white jet, Scattershot's a white jet... meanwhile the Decepticon Seekers are an entire rainbow. Too bad Skimmer isn't DotM Air Raid.

welcometothedarksyde wrote:I think they could've done so much better on Beachcomber, Null rays? Seriously, there was no way to get some shoulder mounted round things?

The missile pod things Lugnut has would've been perfect.

Noideaforaname wrote:Aren't there any Autobot jets that aren't white? The Aerialbots are white jets, Strafe is a white jet, Jetfire's a white jet, Scattershot's a white jet... meanwhile the Decepticon Seekers are an entire rainbow. Too bad Skimmer isn't DotM Air Raid.

welcometothedarksyde wrote:I think they could've done so much better on Beachcomber, Null rays? Seriously, there was no way to get some shoulder mounted round things?

The missile pod things Lugnut has would've been perfect.

Technically, Scattershot's a Technobot (leader of them, in fact) and should've been about 80% dark burgundy in color and not so much white. He looks too much like an Aerialbot or one of his fellow Technobots, Strafe. No surprise that this mini-fig was done wrong.

I'm also confused as to where "Beachcomber" is as referenced by welcometothedarksyde as I don't see the laidback dune buggy anywhere.

wolverinetodd wrote:Technically, Scattershot's a Technobot (leader of them, in fact) and should've been about 80% dark burgundy in color and not so much white. He looks too much like an Aerialbot or one of his fellow Technobots, Strafe. No surprise that this mini-fig was done wrong.

This Scattershot isn't the Technobot Scattershot.

Sabrblade wrote:Scattershot = Universe/ROTF Airazor

wolverinetodd wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:Aren't there any Autobot jets that aren't white? The Aerialbots are white jets, Strafe is a white jet, Jetfire's a white jet, Scattershot's a white jet... meanwhile the Decepticon Seekers are an entire rainbow. Too bad Skimmer isn't DotM Air Raid.

welcometothedarksyde wrote:I think they could've done so much better on Beachcomber, Null rays? Seriously, there was no way to get some shoulder mounted round things?

The missile pod things Lugnut has would've been perfect.

Technically, Scattershot's a Technobot (leader of them, in fact) and should've been about 80% dark burgundy in color and not so much white. He looks too much like an Aerialbot or one of his fellow Technobots, Strafe. No surprise that this mini-fig was done wrong.

Sometimes renaming is necessary to get around trademark problems. Plus, we already have a G1 Scattershot Microchanger in the Computron Combiner set, this is the second one named "Scattershot".

In a curious move, RotF/Universe 2008 Airazor was made as a replacement for Slingshot. So Slingshot and Airazor's representations, Quickslinger and Scattershot, are both standalone from Superion.

wolverinetodd wrote:I'm also confused as to where "Beachcomber" is as referenced by welcometothedarksyde as I don't see the laidback dune buggy anywhere.

I assumed he was talking about Seaspray.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Sunstreakers chest is completely wrong. Sure the helmet is an odd choice, but the chest is worse.

Aside from that, I'm excited for that Gears!

Down_Shift wrote:I'm surprised no one has mentioned Sunstreakers chest is completely wrong. Sure the helmet is an odd choice, but the chest is worse.

I've seen speculation the Sunstreaker's chest, as well as that of Trailbreaker and that of Runamuck, might be based off of possible Binder of Revelation versions of the guys instead of their G1 versions.

After all, we have already gotten a G1 Trailbreaker-based Kreon with Trailcutter:

Finally getting Sunstreaker and Gears to round out the first season G1 Autobots. Glad to have the missing Seacon and Seaspray as well.

Why the hell are we getting another Trailbreaker and Scattershot? What a waste of two slots, when we still need a Cosmos and Reflector. Not to mention Ultra Magnus, Blurr, Tracks, Grapple, Skids, Blaster, Blitzwing, Astrotrain or Smokescreen.

And who is Skimmer and Fuselage? Fuselage looks like Astrotrain to me. So, I will pass on Skimmer and pick up "Fuselage" and pretend it is Astrotrain. Unless we get an official one in the future, then it can be Fuselage again. Whoever the hell that is.

Sabrblade wrote:Fuselage appears to be Octane and Skimmer might be DOTM Air Raid.

Fuselage doesn't look like Octane to me. Colors are off and that head piece doesn't match. Looks more like Astrotrain to me, especially the alt mode. We haven't seen the name since classics Astrotrain. I bet they lost the trademark for it. Also, if it were Octane, they could have easily named it Tankor as we know they still have the rights for that name with the upcoming Generations release.

Who knows who Skimmer is supposed to me? It think DOTM Air Raid is an obscure character to be made a kreon, but your guess is the best one out there, because there is no other bot with that look that I know of. I personally am passing on that Kreon with Trailcutter and Scatershot part 2, so I am ok with it. Lightens the financial load when they hit retail. Although it irritates me tht they would redo two figures and create some obscure one when there are still 20 or so left that have not been made from G1 alone. They should have made a Reflector. That one would be lucrative for them as everyone would want three. Not to mention the perfect opportunity to make the five G1 dinobots with the TF4 movie coming. We get 4 combiner sets that are dino related and none of them are G1 dinos. What the hell were they thinking?

Supposedly Fuselage is Octane, basic on his Universe figure. Coloring and especially naming is kind of weird in Kre-O, falling in a different trademark category, so "Tankor" may already be taken in that field.

As for Skimmer being DotM Air Raid, no. I was thinking at least the chest details would match, but no.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Supposedly Fuselage is Octane, basic on his Universe figure. Coloring and especially naming is kind of weird in Kre-O, falling in a different trademark category, so "Tankor" may already be taken in that field.

As for Skimmer being DotM Air Raid, no. I was thinking at least the chest details would match, but no.

I don't agree. Fuselage looks WAYYYYY more like Astrotrain. Even the alt mode matches. The alt mode looks nothing like Octane's. They also could have named it Tankor or Octane. I doubt either or are restricted. I think that the odds are greater that they have lost the Astrotrain name since we have not seen anything since 2006 with that name. We had a Tankor in 2009 AND 2014.

In my OP, the evidence is heavily towards Astrotrain than Octane in every category. What makes you believe it is Octane?

shockblast2 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Supposedly Fuselage is Octane, basic on his Universe figure. Coloring and especially naming is kind of weird in Kre-O, falling in a different trademark category, so "Tankor" may already be taken in that field.

As for Skimmer being DotM Air Raid, no. I was thinking at least the chest details would match, but no.

I don't agree. Fuselage looks WAYYYYY more like Astrotrain. Even the alt mode matches. The alt mode looks nothing like Octane's. They also could have named it Tankor or Octane. I doubt either or are restricted. I think that the odds are greater that they have lost the Astrotrain name since we have not seen anything since 2006 with that name. We had a Tankor in 2009 AND 2014.

In my OP, the evidence is heavily towards Astrotrain than Octane in every category. What makes you believe it is Octane?

His chest detailing, it matches that of the Universe 2008 figure, not G1:



Also, wings on top and not the bottom: Universe Tankor aka Octane.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Supposedly Fuselage is Octane, basic on his Universe figure. Coloring and especially naming is kind of weird in Kre-O, falling in a different trademark category, so "Tankor" may already be taken in that field.

As for Skimmer being DotM Air Raid, no. I was thinking at least the chest details would match, but no.

I don't agree. Fuselage looks WAYYYYY more like Astrotrain. Even the alt mode matches. The alt mode looks nothing like Octane's. They also could have named it Tankor or Octane. I doubt either or are restricted. I think that the odds are greater that they have lost the Astrotrain name since we have not seen anything since 2006 with that name. We had a Tankor in 2009 AND 2014.

In my OP, the evidence is heavily towards Astrotrain than Octane in every category. What makes you believe it is Octane?

His chest detailing, it matches that of the Universe 2008 figure, not G1:



Also, wings on top and not the bottom: Universe Tankor aka Octane.

Those are obscure details compared to the colors not matching, the fact that the name Tankor is available for use, the helmet looking more like Astrotrain than Octane, and the biggest point of all, the fact that the alt mode looks like a space shuttle and not a old type plane.

Still not seeing Octane in this one. And that chest piece looks similar to Octanes, but Astrotrain's is similar as well. Also, those wings are inverted just like Astrotrains. Octane's are more of a rectangle. Go look at a G1 pick of both and you will see what i mean. The more I look at them now the more I am sold that this is Astrotrain.

Skimmer is actually a new beast-based character, like a new Dinobot, to go along with the dino theme of AOE.

And as for this Scattershot:

Sabrblade wrote:Scattershot = Universe/ROTF Airazor

Sabrblade wrote:Skimmer is actually a new beast-based character, like a new Dinobot, to go along with the dino theme of AOE.

And as for this Scattershot:

Sabrblade wrote:Scattershot = Universe/ROTF Airazor

I figured Skimmer would be something like that. How lame is it that we have 30+ new dino kreons but no G1 dinobots? Sometimes I really think the people who make the decisions for these lines as far as the characters go are complete morons.

They even took Insecticon Shrapnel, messed up his colors just so they can insert it into the lame Obsidian combiner they came up with. How stupid.

I can agree that this "Scattershot " might be Airrazor, but that is redundant because we already got all five aerialbots. Making this another stupid character choice, along with Trailbreaker. How insulting, especially when there are many other characters they could have chose.

No, please, do go on. Tell us how you really feel about these Kreons.

Sabrblade wrote:No, please, do go on. Tell us how you really feel about these Kreons.

No... just, no. In fact completely ignore that

I'd expect a return to the more traditional characters once the Movie Hype is over. That would mean we will get proper Insecticons and Dinobots since the pieces will be reused. All we can do now is ride it out and tolerate the movie-style critters.

Sabrblade wrote:No, please, do go on. Tell us how you really feel about these Kreons.

Ok, I will!

Those dirty mother(beep)s! need to get their heads out of their *sses and stop BEEPing us over by giving us half*ss characters that noone knows who the hell they are. I mean, we shouldn't be debating over the names of these characters at all. How hard is it to just name a damn kreon either Tankor or Astrotrain? Hasbro only has a billion dollars and they couldn't just give us a BEEPing clear name? And look at the obscure characters they have picked! I mean , WTF!! No BEEPing Cosmos. No BEEPing Skids. Yet, we get Skimmer. F'in Skimmer. Who the BEEP knows who Skimmer is?

Nerd Rage melt down in 5...4....3...2...1........AHAHAHAHAA!!!

Ok, I'm done.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:No, please, do go on. Tell us how you really feel about these Kreons.

No... just, no. In fact completely ignore that

I'd expect a return to the more traditional characters once the Movie Hype is over. That would mean we will get proper Insecticons and Dinobots since the pieces will be reused. All we can do now is ride it out and tolerate the movie-style critters.

Sorry Goldrabbit.........I slipped........fell off the wagon.

What will my brothers in the Nerd Rage Coalition think of me now?!?!?!

I am a failure!!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:All we can do now is ride it out and tolerate the movie-style critters.

There's actually way more "traditional" characters instead of Movie ones in these waves, outside the big expensive sets I mean. Sea Spray's basically the only Movie bot, and even that's debatable.

Meanwhile we got TWENTY characters --between the blindbags and Combiners-- that are completely made up. Twenty! A dozen and a half (plus two). That's a lot of waste for an homage line.

BTW, is frostbite supposed to be the Cybertron version? Looks kinda like a wolf or something?

shockblast2 wrote:BTW, is frostbite supposed to be the Cybertron version? Looks kinda like a wolf or something?

Frostbite is a new guy to go with the Lazerbolt dudes.

There's no Cybertron Frostbite. Only a Universe (2003) one.

Noideaforaname wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:All we can do now is ride it out and tolerate the movie-style critters.

There's actually way more "traditional" characters instead of Movie ones in these waves, outside the big expensive sets I mean. Sea Spray's basically the only Movie bot, and even that's debatable.

Meanwhile we got TWENTY characters --between the blindbags and Combiners-- that are completely made up. Twenty! A dozen and a half (plus two). That's a lot of waste for an homage line.

Looks like G1 Seaspray to me. Especially since there really was no movie Seaspray. The "movie" Voyager Seaspray that came out in 2010 in the HFTD line was revealed by Hasbro to be Classics Seaspray at the time.

Yep, lots of wasted opportunities. We could have had the 20 or so I have on my list that we don't have but should.

Grimlock
Slag
Sludge
Swoop
Snarl
Blaster
Tracks
Skids
Grapple
Smokescreen
Cosmos
Omega Supreme
Ultra Magnus
Blurr
Wreck-Gar
Swerve
Outback
Tailgate
Pipes
Reflector x3
Blue Rainmaker Seeker
Blitzwing
Octane
Runabout

I see Fuselage as one of two things:

1) It's Astrotrain but they're not calling him Astrotrain because he doesn't turn into a train. And Astro is just... Astro.

2) A combination of Astrotrain and Octane because why not? They did it with Bluestreak and Smokescreen. He's been basically Kreon Alternator Smokescreen and no one has ever had a problem.