Transformers Mosaic: "The Ghost Train"

total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

I like the art, kind a retro style

That was kind of anti-climatic i mean it was all right but not note worthy

nice artwork and concept but the story needs to be expanded a bit, might as well just said oh he was here then he died the end.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

Nice way to give some constructive criticism there. Have you yourself done any Mosaics lately? I'd like to see them

I really like this, it is one of the more refreshing Mosaics I've seen in a while. The art is indeed very retro and somehow gives off a very British vibe. Very different from what we're used to of course, buit this is definitely quality work. I really like the use of colours as well.

A nice one to see for Halloween.

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

Nice way to give some constructive criticism there. Have you yourself done any Mosaics lately? I'd like to see them

dude, do me a favor. Surf the forum, find every post thats criticle of a comic, or toy, or show, and ask them if they can do better. When you're done, THEN I'll add some "constructive criticism".

i see that po's law strikes again... oh well

yes the mosaic is anti-climatic at the end. i was expecting a little more from it - but if it's the writers first piece? i don't know, i haven't read all the mosaics..

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

Nice way to give some constructive criticism there. Have you yourself done any Mosaics lately? I'd like to see them

dude, do me a favor. Surf the forum, find every post thats criticle of a comic, or toy, or show, and ask them if they can do better. When you're done, THEN I'll add some "constructive criticism".

Seriously, what are you trying to prove? Only that you like cutting up somebody else's work just for the heck of it, nothing more.

Is "criticle" a word?

While the styling is not the usual Mosiac entry, it is unique and refreshing. The story could be expanded tho. But good nevertheless.

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

Nice way to give some constructive criticism there. Have you yourself done any Mosaics lately? I'd like to see them

dude, do me a favor. Surf the forum, find every post thats criticle of a comic, or toy, or show, and ask them if they can do better. When you're done, THEN I'll add some "constructive criticism".

Seriously, what are you trying to prove? Only that you like cutting up somebody else's work just for the heck of it, nothing more.

Is "criticle" a word?

Maybe I'm trying to prove I don't like the god damn comic. You want specifics? Fine, The artwork looks like it predates Marvel transformers #1. Theres a reason the recent transformers comics are not in this style. Also, it makes it hard to tell who it was that took the proffesor (white rumble/frenzy?) Then we have the conductor who says that the proff just walked in like he was drawn in, but the comic shows him clearly being taken. Whats worse, given this is supposed to be a transformers comic, the only sound a transformer makes is WOOSH. Its like Ongoing #8 where a transformer didn't appear untill page 17.

Finally, the reason I said its crap is because I AM DR. HEAVY B, I'm an American and as such I am protected by an Iron Clad first ammendment that says I have a right to give my oppinion about a crappy comic posted online if I so choose.

Satisfied?

You Americans.....so craaazy.

Not what you would call traditional Transformer artwork. That's why I like it. Refreshing to see a different look. I would like to just see it in black and white. Has that independent publishing feel. Happy Halloween everybody.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

Nice way to give some constructive criticism there. Have you yourself done any Mosaics lately? I'd like to see them

dude, do me a favor. Surf the forum, find every post thats criticle of a comic, or toy, or show, and ask them if they can do better. When you're done, THEN I'll add some "constructive criticism".

Seriously, what are you trying to prove? Only that you like cutting up somebody else's work just for the heck of it, nothing more.

Is "criticle" a word?

Maybe I'm trying to prove I don't like the god damn comic. You want specifics? Fine, The artwork looks like it predates Marvel transformers #1. Theres a reason the recent transformers comics are not in this style. Also, it makes it hard to tell who it was that took the proffesor (white rumble/frenzy?) Then we have the conductor who says that the proff just walked in like he was drawn in, but the comic shows him clearly being taken. Whats worse, given this is supposed to be a transformers comic, the only sound a transformer makes is WOOSH. Its like Ongoing #8 where a transformer didn't appear untill page 17.

Finally, the reason I said its crap is because I AM DR. HEAVY B, I'm an American and as such I am protected by an Iron Clad first ammendment that says I have a right to give my oppinion about a crappy comic posted online if I so choose.

Satisfied?

An' accordin' ta' legend, the Ghost Train leaves an eeeeeerie trail a' flames an' meanin'-less posts in its wake, turnin' all they touch inta' shriekin' trolls, left ta' wonderin' why no hearts or minds are swayed by their mournful cries, an'--

No wait, it's got me too! Can't...fight...it...

Beast Machines is continuity-raping piece of garbage that needs to be excised from the franchise ASAP, and whining of the GEEWUNNERS is why the HUB is only airing the pre-movie episodes! George Lucas had Spielberg fire Megan Fox for defending the original cuts of the Star Wars trilogy, and...

...and the mosaic's art does kind of walk that fine line between old-fashioned and sloppy, and while Transformers spawning human legends is a good idea that should be explored more, this could've been better executed with a stronger punch in the last panel, like maybe a hint of what Astrotrain and Frenzy hoped to accomplish with the kidnappings. Any chance this will have a follow up?

And did I say Frenzy? RIR-FIB FOREVER! Unghhh, the curse be a strong one...

"...And every year, on the date of the accident, it runs again as warning to others! Plunging into the gap! Shrieking like a lost soul!"

Kudos to whomever gets this reference.

I may only have 40 posts and don't hang out at this site all day but I am an American too and that gives me freedom of speech, which obviously is a precious thing. However, if I am part of a community I would probably be a little more respectful to each member and probably pipe in with some constructive criticism or word of encouragement instead of just blasting away at someone who spent some time working on some art. Perhaps the phrase "It's not my cup of tea.(or energon)" would have been better. Or "no comment" - Just one Bot's opinion.

Bumblevivisector wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

Nice way to give some constructive criticism there. Have you yourself done any Mosaics lately? I'd like to see them

dude, do me a favor. Surf the forum, find every post thats criticle of a comic, or toy, or show, and ask them if they can do better. When you're done, THEN I'll add some "constructive criticism".

Seriously, what are you trying to prove? Only that you like cutting up somebody else's work just for the heck of it, nothing more.

Is "criticle" a word?

Maybe I'm trying to prove I don't like the god damn comic. You want specifics? Fine, The artwork looks like it predates Marvel transformers #1. Theres a reason the recent transformers comics are not in this style. Also, it makes it hard to tell who it was that took the proffesor (white rumble/frenzy?) Then we have the conductor who says that the proff just walked in like he was drawn in, but the comic shows him clearly being taken. Whats worse, given this is supposed to be a transformers comic, the only sound a transformer makes is WOOSH. Its like Ongoing #8 where a transformer didn't appear untill page 17.

Finally, the reason I said its crap is because I AM DR. HEAVY B, I'm an American and as such I am protected by an Iron Clad first ammendment that says I have a right to give my oppinion about a crappy comic posted online if I so choose.

Satisfied?

An' accordin' ta' legend, the Ghost Train leaves an eeeeeerie trail a' flames an' meanin'-less posts in its wake, turnin' all they touch inta' shriekin' trolls, left ta' wonderin' why no hearts or minds are swayed by their mournful cries, an'--

No wait, it's got me too! Can't...fight...it...

Beast Machines is continuity-raping piece of garbage that needs to be excised from the franchise ASAP, and whining of the GEEWUNNERS is why the HUB is only airing the pre-movie episodes! George Lucas had Spielberg fire Megan Fox for defending the original cuts of the Star Wars trilogy, and...

...and the mosaic's art does kind of walk that fine line between old-fashioned and sloppy, and while Transformers spawning human legends is a good idea that should be explored more, this could've been better executed with a stronger punch in the last panel, like maybe a hint of what Astrotrain and Frenzy hoped to accomplish with the kidnappings. Any chance this will have a follow up?

And did I say Frenzy? RIR-FIB FOREVER! Unghhh, the curse be a strong one...

How does FIRRIB work when the guy is white?

Very clever story, it reminded me of the early UK comics like the Man of Iron! Well done!

SpaceSkull wrote:Not what you would call traditional Transformer artwork. That's why I like it. Refreshing to see a different look. I would like to just see it in black and white. Has that independent publishing feel. Happy Halloween everybody.

Yeah, come to think of it, in B&W it might look like a 19th century Penny Dreadful, which may have been what the artist was going for. Yet the coloring kind of says "mild acid trip", creating two tastes that kind of work against each other. I reiterate, it's a decent enough idea to warrant a sequel that might iron out a few bumps.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Bumblevivisector wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

Nice way to give some constructive criticism there. Have you yourself done any Mosaics lately? I'd like to see them

dude, do me a favor. Surf the forum, find every post thats criticle of a comic, or toy, or show, and ask them if they can do better. When you're done, THEN I'll add some "constructive criticism".

Seriously, what are you trying to prove? Only that you like cutting up somebody else's work just for the heck of it, nothing more.

Is "criticle" a word?

Maybe I'm trying to prove I don't like the god damn comic. You want specifics? Fine, The artwork looks like it predates Marvel transformers #1. Theres a reason the recent transformers comics are not in this style. Also, it makes it hard to tell who it was that took the proffesor (white rumble/frenzy?) Then we have the conductor who says that the proff just walked in like he was drawn in, but the comic shows him clearly being taken. Whats worse, given this is supposed to be a transformers comic, the only sound a transformer makes is WOOSH. Its like Ongoing #8 where a transformer didn't appear untill page 17.

Finally, the reason I said its crap is because I AM DR. HEAVY B, I'm an American and as such I am protected by an Iron Clad first ammendment that says I have a right to give my oppinion about a crappy comic posted online if I so choose.

Satisfied?

An' accordin' ta' legend, the Ghost Train leaves an eeeeeerie trail a' flames an' meanin'-less posts in its wake, turnin' all they touch inta' shriekin' trolls, left ta' wonderin' why no hearts or minds are swayed by their mournful cries, an'--

No wait, it's got me too! Can't...fight...it...

Beast Machines is continuity-raping piece of garbage that needs to be excised from the franchise ASAP, and whining of the GEEWUNNERS is why the HUB is only airing the pre-movie episodes! George Lucas had Spielberg fire Megan Fox for defending the original cuts of the Star Wars trilogy, and...

...and the mosaic's art does kind of walk that fine line between old-fashioned and sloppy, and while Transformers spawning human legends is a good idea that should be explored more, this could've been better executed with a stronger punch in the last panel, like maybe a hint of what Astrotrain and Frenzy hoped to accomplish with the kidnappings. Any chance this will have a follow up?

And did I say Frenzy? RIR-FIB FOREVER! Unghhh, the curse be a strong one...

How does FIRRIB work when the guy is white?

Only the area around his symbol is entirely white. The rest has plenty of blue and purple. I repeat what I said about the acid-trippy colors to maintain that actual colors vs. lighting effects are largely debatable in this mosaic.

Though with an official toy of Enemy on the way that's redder than Rumble's, we may end up with all the other Microchange cassette-man color variants as legit TF characters, making the abbreviation statements several lines long a few years down the road.

monstergrotusque wrote:You Americans.....so craaazy.

I agree and Im an American!

Dr. Heavy B wrote:Finally, the reason I said its crap is because I AM DR. HEAVY B, I'm an American and as such I am protected by an Iron Clad first ammendment that says I have a right to give my oppinion about a crappy comic posted online if I so choose.

Satisfied?

haha you won me over with this.

B's got a point, let a dude freely share his opinion.

with the argument 'if you don't like it, move on', well shouldn't you do that about a comment that you don't like? don't let it bother you and move on?

wotevs

This is a public forum and as such you can expect less subtle opinions. Doesn't make them wrong, though.

I like this one. Short and sweet, the way a mosaic should be IMO.

Sabrblade wrote:"...And every year, on the date of the accident, it runs again as warning to others! Plunging into the gap! Shrieking like a lost soul!"

Kudos to whomever gets this reference.

I wanna get the reference ! Enlighten me

Sabrblade wrote:"...And every year, on the date of the accident, it runs again as warning to others! Plunging into the gap! Shrieking like a lost soul!"

Kudos to whomever gets this reference.

Oh was that when Ringo was still narrating or George Carlin maybe even Alec Baldwin Hintedy hint hint Sabrblade.

Erm i think one or two people here are forgetting that Mosaics are done by fans for fans as a bit of fun, meaning that not everyone is going to be an artist by trade.

Personally I like it, not everyone likes the current view of hyper realistic or anime inspired visuals. Its kind of a throw back to the old school days of comics with some phsycodelia thrown in. The use of the colours is intresting too.

As for your first amendment rights, freedom of speach is a great thing. Except even in America it isn't totally free unless it fits in with the status quo broadly speaking.

Whilst the comment about it being crap was a little crass and blunt, it was his\her opinion. It was perhaps not eloquantly portayed, but then again thats the whole point of art, its subjectives and this is the internet where any one can post thier thoughts to the whole world and largely have them ignored.

Takes a level of guts to put your work out thier to be judged, so well done to Mario and Ben for doing so.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:"...And every year, on the date of the accident, it runs again as warning to others! Plunging into the gap! Shrieking like a lost soul!"

Kudos to whomever gets this reference.

Oh was that when Ringo was still narrating or George Carlin maybe even Alec Baldwin Hintedy hint hint Sabrblade.

Thomas the Tank engine on Seibertron. Nay, nay...

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:"...And every year, on the date of the accident, it runs again as warning to others! Plunging into the gap! Shrieking like a lost soul!"

Kudos to whomever gets this reference.

Oh was that when Ringo was still narrating or George Carlin maybe even Alec Baldwin Hintedy hint hint Sabrblade.

Both Ringo and Carlin dubbed this episode.

tigertracks 24 wrote:Thomas the Tank engine on Seibertron. Nay, nay...

Got something against anthropromorphic locomotives from Sodor?

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:"...And every year, on the date of the accident, it runs again as warning to others! Plunging into the gap! Shrieking like a lost soul!"

Kudos to whomever gets this reference.

Oh was that when Ringo was still narrating or George Carlin maybe even Alec Baldwin Hintedy hint hint Sabrblade.

Both Ringo and Carlin dubbed this episode.

tigertracks 24 wrote:Thomas the Tank engine on Seibertron. Nay, nay...

Got something against anthropromorphic locomotives from Sodor?

Nope. My son loves them. He has a bunch of the toys. Just not something I would expect to see come up here...in a regular TF discussion.

As for the Mosaic. The art is good for a period piece. If that was the artist's intent, which it probably was, again like others have said, along the lines of 'Man of Iron' or steel or whichever it was. It lends a certain hint that the Decepticons may have been responsible for some of the myths of old. Honestly, I was expecting a HEARTS of STEEL Astrotrain, but this was still cool.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

PiusInk wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:total crap. Mosaic is capable of WAAAAAAYY better

Is "criticle" a word?

Maybe I'm trying to prove I don't like the god damn comic. You want specifics? Fine, The artwork looks like it predates Marvel transformers #1. Theres a reason the recent transformers comics are not in this style. Also, it makes it hard to tell who it was that took the proffesor (white rumble/frenzy?) Then we have the conductor who says that the proff just walked in like he was drawn in, but the comic shows him clearly being taken. Whats worse, given this is supposed to be a transformers comic, the only sound a transformer makes is WOOSH. Its like Ongoing #8 where a transformer didn't appear untill page 17.

Finally, the reason I said its crap is because I AM DR. HEAVY B, I'm an American and as such I am protected by an Iron Clad first ammendment that says I have a right to give my oppinion about a crappy comic posted online if I so choose.

Satisfied?

Alright "Dr. Heavy B.". I think I know my Transformers comics well enough to form a valid opinion of my own. These are not IDW, or even Marvel comics, nor do they pretend to be. This particular comic represents a certain style that you may not like, but I think it's pretty blunt to call it "total crap".

And yes Rha, this is indeed a public forum. And that usually brings out the worst in people. I'm not saying Heavy's opinion is wrong, but the way I see it, it certainly is ill-informed. Apart from that, I think some people on here might do good to tone down their attitude (and language) a little.