Transformers Generations Selects Guardian Robot Revealed

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:UPDATE: According to a combination of info some other guy got from a Chinese retailer and corroboration from JTPrime, "G1 Headmaster" is mostly likely short for "G1 Headmasters Universe Pointblank", and it's Pointblank with the head design from Headmasters/his original toy instead of his Sunbow/Rebirth head, not an actual figure/character who is a Headmaster.

Is its class specified?

Because it would be nice if it's the proper voyager Pointblank, the one the designers wanted to make from the start.

It's a deluxe

Seriously? We just got a Pointblank! I get it that he has some issues, but why bother releasing that one if a proper version is also on the way? Is Hasbro really that blatantly greedy?

I was hoping for the season 3 purple and gray guardian robots remolded to have fat guts. This new redeco isn’t accurate to the source material either. No sale unless a 3rd party manufactures a sumo upgrade.

1984forever wrote:I was hoping for the season 3 purple and gray guardian robots remolded to have fat guts. This new redeco isn’t accurate to the source material either. No sale unless a 3rd party manufactures a sumo upgrade.

I would have preferred the purple version as well, but hasbro wasn't going to make brand new parts for an obscure character when they had a ready to go mold, especially 1 of that size.

That Select version can't hold a candle to the original Omega, but I'm pleased to see one of the best Titan (or THE best Titan) ever to be re-released again.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

1984forever wrote:I was hoping for the season 3 purple and gray guardian robots remolded to have fat guts. This new redeco isn’t accurate to the source material either. No sale unless a 3rd party manufactures a sumo upgrade.

I would have preferred the purple version as well, but hasbro wasn't going to make brand new parts for an obscure character when they had a ready to go mold, especially 1 of that size.

I figured that’s why they were taking years to release the repaint. Oh well. No headless option either.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

1984forever wrote:I was hoping for the season 3 purple and gray guardian robots remolded to have fat guts. This new redeco isn’t accurate to the source material either. No sale unless a 3rd party manufactures a sumo upgrade.

I would have preferred the purple version as well, but hasbro wasn't going to make brand new parts for an obscure character when they had a ready to go mold, especially 1 of that size.

Depends on what they used as sources really. The deco is indeed from War Dawn, but the concept of a blue G1 Omega Supreme dates back to 2008's e-Hobby GADEP:



The purple ones are considered distinct by TFWiki, as in contrast to the Autobot/Decepticon-led Guardian Robots, the so-called Dark Guardians were employed by the Quintessons.

Why does blue have to be my favorite color...

Might pick it up having passed on Omega. Supposedly £220 here though and I can't see the new colours justifying that price over the £130 Omega

*£220 at hasbro, £200 at indemand...yeagh easy pass at that price, hopefully it will end up like Black Zarak because £70+ more than Omega is a big NO

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Perhaps they learned a thing or to from Black Zarak. I mean I know that required more extensive work, but the pre-order was almost a year in advance (10 months to wait), whereas this is just a little over a month.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Looks pretty good, even if it's got a bit too much white on it. I thought it would be blue and gray. But the mold still holds up.

All that white is accurate:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:UPDATE: According to a combination of info some other guy got from a Chinese retailer and corroboration from JTPrime, "G1 Headmaster" is mostly likely short for "G1 Headmasters Universe Pointblank", and it's Pointblank with the head design from Headmasters/his original toy instead of his Sunbow/Rebirth head, not an actual figure/character who is a Headmaster.

Is its class specified?

Because it would be nice if it's the proper voyager Pointblank, the one the designers wanted to make from the start.

It's a deluxe

Seriously? We just got a Pointblank! I get it that he has some issues, but why bother releasing that one if a proper version is also on the way? Is Hasbro really that blatantly greedy?

Some fans were upset by the headsculpt we got with the original pointblank, and now Hasbro is releasing a version to answer that need. It's the same toy but with deco and head to match the Headmasters cartoon version, hence the name of the listing. Also, I thought wave 3 deluxes were hard to obtain, no?

william-james88 wrote:Some fans were upset by the headsculpt we got with the original pointblank, and now Hasbro is releasing a version to answer that need. It's the same toy but with deco and head to match the Headmasters cartoon version, hence the name of the listing.

The 1st Pointblank has been out long enough for them to acknowledge the negative response and implement the desired changes in such a short time? I just thought with all the steps a production usually requires, they had this version in the pipeline before the 1st got even released.

Also, I thought wave 3 deluxes were hard to obtain, no?

I didn't have any problems getting 2 copies through Amazon without delay. I can't speak to B&M distribution.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Looks pretty good, even if it's got a bit too much white on it. I thought it would be blue and gray. But the mold still holds up.

All that white is accurate:

I wasn't disputing accuracy, I was commenting on my dislike of the deco.

Neat deco and a pretty good reuse of a Titan mold, looks like we may start to see more of this. Though I'm not keen on the price enough to warrant a purchase nor do I really have the space for such large repaints. For OG Omega Supreme and Metroplex sure I'd make room for those. Probably would have for Unicron if I had known about that project in time.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Looks pretty good, even if it's got a bit too much white on it. I thought it would be blue and gray. But the mold still holds up.

All that white is accurate:

But not the body type. Thicc guardians FTW.

1984forever wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Looks pretty good, even if it's got a bit too much white on it. I thought it would be blue and gray. But the mold still holds up.

All that white is accurate:

But not the body type. Thicc guardians FTW.

Well, if you really want cartoon-accuracy, you should be asking for 2-foot-tall Action Masters since the Guardian Robots were built by the Quintessons as the Dark Guardians, and thus predated the art of transformation, and thus couldn't transform.

Omega Supreme was the only one who was able to, and look at how much his body had to go through to make that possible.

Sabrblade wrote:

1984forever wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Looks pretty good, even if it's got a bit too much white on it. I thought it would be blue and gray. But the mold still holds up.

All that white is accurate:

But not the body type. Thicc guardians FTW.

Well, if you really want cartoon-accuracy, you should be asking for 2-foot-tall Action Masters since the Guardian Robots were built by the Quintessons as the Dark Guardians, and thus predated the art of transformation, and thus couldn't transform.

Omega Supreme was the only one who was able to, and look at how much his body had to go through to make that possible.

You’re right. I’m actually not opposed to the idea of Action Masters for characters that never transformed in the cartoon. I would buy Trans-Organics, Deceptitran, Quints, Dark Guardians/Guardian robots etc., and double dip on the figs I already purchased in 3D if they were made into plastic.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Some fans were upset by the headsculpt we got with the original pointblank, and now Hasbro is releasing a version to answer that need. It's the same toy but with deco and head to match the Headmasters cartoon version, hence the name of the listing.

The 1st Pointblank has been out long enough for them to acknowledge the negative response and implement the desired changes in such a short time? I just thought with all the steps a production usually requires, they had this version in the pipeline before the 1st got even released.

I don't think this one exists explicitly as a result of what fans asked, and I didn't mean it as such. I just meant that some fans wanted a different point blank and this one will answer that want/need. There will be 2 point blanks just like there are 2 cyclonuses, that's how I see it.

lol no thanks. im good with the previous omega

Where's the Omega Spreem deco

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Some fans were upset by the headsculpt we got with the original pointblank, and now Hasbro is releasing a version to answer that need. It's the same toy but with deco and head to match the Headmasters cartoon version, hence the name of the listing.

The 1st Pointblank has been out long enough for them to acknowledge the negative response and implement the desired changes in such a short time? I just thought with all the steps a production usually requires, they had this version in the pipeline before the 1st got even released.

I don't think this one exists explicitly as a result of what fans asked, and I didn't mean it as such. I just meant that some fans wanted a different point blank and this one will answer that want/need. There will be 2 point blanks just like there are 2 cyclonuses, that's how I see it.

I mean heck I remember Studio Series Grindor being a minor redeco of Blackout but used the opportunity to retool the hands, this doesn't really seem that wild to get a new Pointblank soon that'll address the articulation issue. I personally didn't find it that bad but, hey, if they wanna make an update on that mold and are confident it'll sell, why not? Maybe the price point might even chuck in the engine gun as originally planned too.

I'm glad were not getting a FAT Guardian. I'm glad Omega Supreme has a body like what I aspire to be, more than what I actually am

RiddlerJ wrote:Where's the Omega Spreem deco

He'll be the next one after Majin Zarak

o.supreme wrote:I'm glad were not getting a FAT Guardian. I'm glad Omega Supreme has a body like what I aspire to be, more than what I actually am

How do you feel about fit in shape Sharkticons?

I was thinking that all the extra stuff for a Guardian wasn't necessary, yet I believe it's pretty much all needed to form the actual bot. lol So there wouldn't be any way to eliminate much from this set to make the price point more attractive, or to promote troop building. At $200 that's just not feasible, perhaps if they could have got him in for $125-150 it would have been more of a possibility.

I wonder if this repaint is cheaper than simply creating a new non transforming mold?

Till-all-R1 wrote:I was thinking that all the extra stuff for a Guardian wasn't necessary, yet I believe it's pretty much all needed to form the actual bot. lol So there wouldn't be any way to eliminate much from this set to make the price point more attractive, or to promote troop building. At $200 that's just not feasible, perhaps if they could have got him in for $125-150 it would have been more of a possibility.

I wonder if this repaint is cheaper than simply creating a new non transforming mold?

As many bemoan the price, equal if not more will bemoan a cheaper non-transforming new mold.

1984forever wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I'm glad were not getting a FAT Guardian. I'm glad Omega Supreme has a body like what I aspire to be, more than what I actually am

How do you feel about fit in shape Sharkticons?

You mean these?

Sabrblade wrote:

1984forever wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I'm glad were not getting a FAT Guardian. I'm glad Omega Supreme has a body like what I aspire to be, more than what I actually am

How do you feel about fit in shape Sharkticons?

You mean these?

1984forever wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

1984forever wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I'm glad were not getting a FAT Guardian. I'm glad Omega Supreme has a body like what I aspire to be, more than what I actually am

How do you feel about fit in shape Sharkticons?

You mean these?

In-fiction, they're "Generation 2" Sharkticons. A new model designed for a whole new generation of Quintesson ambition.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Some fans were upset by the headsculpt we got with the original pointblank, and now Hasbro is releasing a version to answer that need. It's the same toy but with deco and head to match the Headmasters cartoon version, hence the name of the listing.

The 1st Pointblank has been out long enough for them to acknowledge the negative response and implement the desired changes in such a short time? I just thought with all the steps a production usually requires, they had this version in the pipeline before the 1st got even released.

I don't think this one exists explicitly as a result of what fans asked, and I didn't mean it as such. I just meant that some fans wanted a different point blank and this one will answer that want/need. There will be 2 point blanks just like there are 2 cyclonuses, that's how I see it.

Yeah I get it. I was just trying to get it straight whether the newer figure is in response to fans' reaction to the previous one or if it was already planned to be released no matter what. FWIW I'm happy with the 1 we already got, but I get why others weren't satisfied.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I was thinking that all the extra stuff for a Guardian wasn't necessary, yet I believe it's pretty much all needed to form the actual bot. lol So there wouldn't be any way to eliminate much from this set to make the price point more attractive, or to promote troop building. At $200 that's just not feasible, perhaps if they could have got him in for $125-150 it would have been more of a possibility.

I wonder if this repaint is cheaper than simply creating a new non transforming mold?

As many bemoan the price, equal if not more will bemoan a cheaper non-transforming new mold.

I'd imagine especially for people not really in the loop - "Why is this based off a toy release from a few years ago that could transform?" and probably consider just forking up cash to get one that can actually transform.

I love Action Masters but...this ain't RED! (I am also one of those people that prefer Transformers that can transform as much as I love Action Masters. )

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Some fans were upset by the headsculpt we got with the original pointblank, and now Hasbro is releasing a version to answer that need. It's the same toy but with deco and head to match the Headmasters cartoon version, hence the name of the listing.

The 1st Pointblank has been out long enough for them to acknowledge the negative response and implement the desired changes in such a short time? I just thought with all the steps a production usually requires, they had this version in the pipeline before the 1st got even released.

I don't think this one exists explicitly as a result of what fans asked, and I didn't mean it as such. I just meant that some fans wanted a different point blank and this one will answer that want/need. There will be 2 point blanks just like there are 2 cyclonuses, that's how I see it.

Yeah I get it. I was just trying to get it straight whether the newer figure is in response to fans' reaction to the previous one or if it was already planned to be released no matter what. FWIW I'm happy with the 1 we already got, but I get why others weren't satisfied.

Nobody here could answer that question in full confidance, but Hasbro is very receptive to questions these days. When the new one is revealed, you or someone else could ask on instagram if it's a response or was always going to come. I think that since the headsculpt is pre planned, they were always going to release 2 versions

I'll also be passing on this one. I had actually sold my copy of Omega to make shelf space for the Ark, which I found to be a better figure (overall). So I doubt I'll get the Selects blue revamp.

They did also announce "Origins Jazz" as well, along with the Guardian Titan. The Guardian is still available for pre-order on Hasbro Pulse. Jazz is already sold out. Go figure!

SpaceEagle wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I was thinking that all the extra stuff for a Guardian wasn't necessary, yet I believe it's pretty much all needed to form the actual bot. lol So there wouldn't be any way to eliminate much from this set to make the price point more attractive, or to promote troop building. At $200 that's just not feasible, perhaps if they could have got him in for $125-150 it would have been more of a possibility.

I wonder if this repaint is cheaper than simply creating a new non transforming mold?

As many bemoan the price, equal if not more will bemoan a cheaper non-transforming new mold.

I'd imagine especially for people not really in the loop - "Why is this based off a toy release from a few years ago that could transform?" and probably consider just forking up cash to get one that can actually transform.

I love Action Masters but...this ain't RED! (I am also one of those people that prefer Transformers that can transform as much as I love Action Masters. )

And I understand tht, but since Guardians didn't technically transform I don't see the issue in that regard. That said, yes you're buying a "Transformer" for a reason.

Maybe they should have redesigned it a bit so it wasn't a direct copy of Omega Supreme in alt mode. Though I guess that defeats the "repaint/cash grab" aspect of the release. lol

the most expensive army builders EVER !

partholon wrote:the most expensive army builders EVER !

I dunno. The e-HOBBY release of the original mold is also pretty expensive.

And of course there's the infamous Noizemaze Mass Production Type Version from Galaxy Force.

Haha, they have less paint on this thing but charging $40 more than Omega Supreme.

DeathReviews wrote:I'll also be passing on this one. I had actually sold my copy of Omega to make shelf space for the Ark, which I found to be a better figure (overall). So I doubt I'll get the Selects blue revamp.

Ark, better than Omega? BLASPHEMY!
But seriously, I was surprised at this opinion. It's clearly not the consensus.

One thing is sure though. As a collector, shelf space is indeed an eternal battle.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Ark, better than Omega? BLASPHEMY!
But seriously, I was surprised at this opinion. It's clearly not the consensus.

One thing is sure though. As a collector, shelf space is indeed an eternal battle.

^TRUTH 100%

As I said earlier, if I part with any Titan, It will be Cybertron Metroplex. Of course it depends on what the Mainline Titan for the 2024 line will be. As of now, other than my personal wants, I have no clue what it could potentially be.

1984forever wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I'm glad were not getting a FAT Guardian. I'm glad Omega Supreme has a body like what I aspire to be, more than what I actually am

How do you feel about fit in shape Sharkticons?

They are awesome, and probably much better hunters

Omega Guardian looks neat, but it is one I can pass on. Thank god I can finally pass on a titan

2X Guardians preordered. No regrets so far but not making any promises, lol.

o.supreme wrote:As I said earlier, if I part with any Titan, It will be Cybertron Metroplex.

Metroplex now sell for around 500$ now. And easily.
Mine was yellowing and full of dust, no box, yet I still received 300$CAN in store credits at my local Geek Store.

So that Generations Metroplex of yours, if you don't really care about it that much, SELL IT. Now is the perfect time before a redo of him comes out.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As I said earlier, if I part with any Titan, It will be Cybertron Metroplex.

Metroplex now sell for around 500$ now. And easily.
Mine was yellowing and full of dust, no box, yet I still received 300$CAN in store credits at my local Geek Store.

So that Generations Metroplex of yours, if you don't really care about it that much, SELL IT. Now is the perfect time before a redo of him comes out.

Cybertron Metroplex is this year's titan: Metroplex from the 2006 Cybertron show.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As I said earlier, if I part with any Titan, It will be Cybertron Metroplex.

Metroplex now sell for around 500$ now. And easily.
Mine was yellowing and full of dust, no box, yet I still received 300$CAN in store credits at my local Geek Store.

So that Generations Metroplex of yours, if you don't really care about it that much, SELL IT. Now is the perfect time before a redo of him comes out.

Cybertron Metroplex is this year's titan: Metroplex from the 2006 Cybertron show.

Fuk! I missread.

I thought we were talking about Generations Metroplex, the first titan that was sold for the outrageous price of 100$ at the time.

Well, I wonder if/when Legacy Cybertron Metroplex will increase in value? The OG toy did so maybe this one too down the line?
I also wonder, is that mold (or the 2006 version) Select-able?

Yeah.....No way I'm parting with my T30 Metroplex . Despite it's criticisms, it's still a highly desirable part of my collection.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As I said earlier, if I part with any Titan, It will be Cybertron Metroplex.

Metroplex now sell for around 500$ now. And easily.
Mine was yellowing and full of dust, no box, yet I still received 300$CAN in store credits at my local Geek Store.

So that Generations Metroplex of yours, if you don't really care about it that much, SELL IT. Now is the perfect time before a redo of him comes out.

Cybertron Metroplex is this year's titan: Metroplex from the 2006 Cybertron show.

Fuk! I missread.

I thought we were talking about Generations Metroplex, the first titan that was sold for the outrageous price of 100$ at the time.

Well, I wonder if/when Legacy Cybertron Metroplex will increase in value? The OG toy did so maybe this one too down the line?
I also wonder, is that mold (or the 2006 version) Select-able?

Did all titans go up in value?

To all you non-child Transformers fans. How the hell do you store all the Titans? I know I live in Holland and we have small living spaces but we got like 7 Titans? Nemesis will be up next, I skipped the newest Metroplex because he's just an upscale and bland as hell.

william-james88 wrote:Did all titans go up in value?

So far, all those that are G1 related did. Even that horrible Fortmax. The one with the lowest value remain Triptycon because so many units have been produced. For Black Zarack, all the stores stock have to be sold first so it may take a while.

I do wonder how long for the Ark and C.Metro before their value increase. It may take a few years.

It is curious that the Guardian Robot already sold out on Pulse. I wonder if they adjusted their production run numbers based on how Black Zarak did.

I'm holding off for a sale and willing to skip it if necessary. Hopefully he has stock on hand whenever Pulse does their next warehouse sale.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:It is curious that the Guardian Robot already sold out on Pulse. I wonder if they adjusted their production run numbers based on how Black Zarak did.

I'm holding off for a sale and willing to skip it if necessary. Hopefully he has stock on hand whenever Pulse does their next warehouse sale.

The quantity available for pre-order on Pulse and the quantity produced probably don't have any relationship to each other in this case. This figure has fan channel distribution including Entertainment Earth and BBTS, and they're still available there.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:It is curious that the Guardian Robot already sold out on Pulse. I wonder if they adjusted their production run numbers based on how Black Zarak did.

I'm holding off for a sale and willing to skip it if necessary. Hopefully he has stock on hand whenever Pulse does their next warehouse sale.

The quantity available for pre-order on Pulse and the quantity produced probably don't have any relationship to each other in this case. This figure has fan channel distribution including Entertainment Earth and BBTS, and they're still available there.

Oh, no doubt, and I assume he'll come back in stock as well on Pulse. I just didn't recall Black Zarak selling out on Pulse at all last year. But then again, the pre-order window was also much longer. You could be right the production numbers are probably similar and they just adjusted their pre-order limits. Especially if there is a first run/second run scenario where different dates would come into play. I'm selfishly just hoping he will be in stock on Pulse at some time whenever they do their next sale. (And hoping to show enough restraint to not buy him at full price before then.)