Transformers #6 iTunes 3 Page Preview and #7 Sneak Peek

Transformers X Final Fantasy.. Who knew

@allnew does that mean Megatron will play the part of Sephiroth Also why am I okay with the idea of such a crossover (more so if better then the summons of FF13)

So Codexa is acting as some kind of historical archive here I'm guessing.

Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

To be fair, that just adds to the final fantasy comparison as Jenova was also a plot device really... At least Codexa is getting lines.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.

All we know is she’s obviously a very old Cybertronian, someone who was held in very high regard that decided her time was over and chose to be integrated back in the planet.

Randomhero wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.

All we know is she’s obviously a very old Cybertronian, someone who was held in very high regard that decided her time was over and chose to be integrated back in the planet.

Yes. And I'm good with that. But the segue seemed like it was Orion going back to when he first knew Megatron, not Codexa relating any information.

Absorbed back into the very substance that birthed her...wicked

ill be honest i dont see this series lasting.

i mean do you remember when people were giving out about how slow INFLITRATION was?

this is positively glacial. hell compare the two iterations and by this stage furman had pretty much set up the entire IDW transformers universe status quo.

ruckley has introduced some nice SCI/FI tropes but TBH in total you coulda covered most of it in a back up story ala the aul G2 comic (think tales of earth etc) , most of the time nothing seems to be happening. i havent seen this much walking around since the last episode of "Game of Thrones"

writing for the trade means bugger all if NO ONE buys the comic series and TBH i think the sales fig will be at OPTIMUS PRIMES cancellation level within the quarter.

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.

All we know is she’s obviously a very old Cybertronian, someone who was held in very high regard that decided her time was over and chose to be integrated back in the planet.

Yes. And I'm good with that. But the segue seemed like it was Orion going back to when he first knew Megatron, not Codexa relating any information.

Hey that’s how I’m interpreting the scene. It’s orion flashing back not unlike a similar situation in Spotlight Optimus Prime when he went and met up with omega supreme to learn more about Nova Prime.


Codexa is just there and he’s talking to her

william-james88 wrote:Really disliking the art on Transformers 6.

I could not disagree more. This art is by far my favorite of the art that has been seen in the 5 issues so far

War Dawn. Chaos Theory. Exodus. The origins of the conflict between Optimus Prime and Megatron have been explored several times over in Transformers media with some examples being more successful and well remembered than others. For this latest iteration of the franchise in comic book form, its sixth issue looks back at the relationship between Orion Pax and Megatron before any wars have ever begun. The resulting output is a meandering exercise in unrealized potential that squashes the positive momentum carried out of the previous issue. Read on to find out more about a series quickly falling into an identity crisis.


The ambition here is plainly visible, as throughout 20 pages, it feels like the intention was to present the history of this iteration of Orion Pax and Megatron through a dreamlike recollection of days gone by with focus on small interpersonal moments that feed the current hyper-mild tension between these two franchise icons. The first anecdotal flashback sequence really works in building up these characters and their histories, with Megatron performing physical labor while Orion incompetently tries to assist his friend. This delivers the intended impact with an easy to follow but thought out depiction of the contrast in their personalities, though it's a bit subtle at times. It also casts a lens on each of their ambitions but remains rooted in just enough of who you already think these characters are. It was a great way to start out the flashback story that worked well within the medium of a comic book.

Then the problems really ramp up.


The second scene trying to do the same thing loses itself in an attempted spectacle that would probably look phenomenal in an animated medium, being set on a fantastical location on Cybertron's moon that allows for a metaphorical representation of Orion and Megatron's friendship to be presented. The visual presentation here didn't work for me and while I think the intended message is conveyed, it's delivered in a way that ultimately lacked a real emotional impact. Things happen and words are said but the art and story are too lost in their attempt at being respectively a cartoon and novel to work. Story wise, the dialogue drives home a great bit of what while failing to convey how these characters feel about it. This is caused by an over reliance on the big picture, potential implications of these Transformers' desires and ambitions on the world around them. Said world is still fuzzy, at least to this reader, creating a missed opportunity to make the dramatic tension later implied something rooted in a (presumably just friendly) relationship and its history of interactions and misunderstanding. The story opts instead to make it about anxiety and paranoia without earning its way to that goal.


Visually, there are too many panels to make the setting work. One of the best shots in the series was back in issue 1 via a two-page spread near the start that made Cybertron reflect elements of wonder and mystery. A similar choice might have helped here at some point along the way, and perhaps accompanying panels at the bottom (a technique used effectively in Unicron, More Than Meets The Eye and probably hundreds of other comics) could keep the needed space for the spoken words. At least one moment almost got there with a full page visual, but it suffers from another issue that I hope isn't as present in a printed copy: while the pencils here from newcomer Bethany McGuire-Smith show an artist definitely suited for more Transformers work, the finishes look incomplete. This could have helped the story and was likely intentional, given the way in which we're taken along in Codexa's memory to view what's presented on the page, but the visual technique never quite commits to embracing any surreal enough qualities to say that for certain.


The covers available feature an amazing Jack Lawrence and Josh Burcham piece for the "A" cover that conveys some of the emotion that the interior contents were lacking for me. Interior artist McGuire-Smith's work is seen again on the "B" cover and is featured in this review's news story thumbnail. Jeffrey Veregge provides another wonderfully imaginative "travel poster" cover for the ten copy retailer incentive option, available soon at the Seibertron eBay store along with the A cover and B cover. As previously covered, a retailer exclusive cover is also available. As always, you can also find images of all of the book's covers along with full credits for the issue in our Vector Sigma Database page for Transformers #6.


Just when things take a step forward, they hop back in a strange way. This issue works best after issue 3, if it had to come this early, but the main problem here might be that it was too early to tell this story as the main result is an unearned, borderline illogical decision by Orion Pax on the actions he should take moving into the future after consulting with the Transformers equivalent of the Three-Eyed Raven of all things. There's subtlety and then there's a lack of elaboration - if the tone of this review has told you anything so far, it's that I found this installment falling into the latter category more so than the former. While there are some worthwhile moments and a clearly ambitious, cared for overall effort, the execution shows a reach that exceeded its grasp, or maybe a desire to make TV instead of a comic book.

Bottom line for this reviewer: I really want to like this issue and can pick up what the creative team is possibly trying to craft, one scene in this really is good, but the crammed layouts and bone-dry dialogue are leaving me ambivalent towards the overall product.

This is making me really wish they would let James Roberts come back in with a continuation of MTMTE and Lost Light.

I'm still hoping they do what DC did with New 52, realize it was a mistake, and revive the original continuity. I was willing to give the new series a fair shot, but it continues to pale in comparison to what came before. I used to look forward to comic book day, now I just pick these up out of a sense of obligation to keep up with the lore.

So I read the issue. I didn't want to rely on the reviewer (as is normal, no offense to any reviewer).

Honestly, I think the rehashed nature of the roles and interplay of Optimus Prime and Megatron as "sort of friends", as we've seen since the Aligned continuity may just be something most people are going to say "been there, done that" about without judging the current work on it's own merits - just within that context.

While this OP / Megatron relationship has the same general form as what Hasbro seemingly wants that relationship to be, it doesn't have necessarily the same substance. I'm okay with that, if I'm not okay with OP/Megatron being friends and having to have known each other before they became archenemies. Optimus Prime has a lot of friends. Knows a lot of people. Doesn't mean he has to know Megatron personally. But it is what it is, so I digress.

What I probably take more issue with is just not knowing "enough" about the movings and shakings up THIS Cybertron and where that lands us. And to be fair, that's how we started with the previous continuity as well. And people complained about that. As well.

Anyway, onto the issue itself.

I didn't find the dialogue bad. I didn't find it good. I found it adequate to explain where this Orion and this Megatron find themselves. I definitely don't think the writer doesn't know the characters. Their lines are "true" to the spirit of both. Within the established and (even well worn at this point) Aligned continuity 'we-used-to-be-friends-now-we're-foes' dynamic of the two principle characters in the franchise, there's only so many permutations available to you to get them to where we know them without undue contrivance.

All the vitriol aimed at this series really kind of gives me flashbacks about the first third or so of IDW's old run. I won't (and didn't) defend those books as all awesomely written pieces of fiction, but I'm not looking for exemplary writing, I'm looking for entertaining writing. And as far as I'm concerned, the book did that. What I'm curious about is why drop this issue out "order" with issue three as some kind of interlude-ish pursuit? Rubble getting punched didn't feel exactly like something you needed to wait a month to see the results of.

Anyway - I will say out of for issue 6. Middling.

Lore Keeper wrote:now I just pick these up out of a sense of obligation to keep up with the lore.

Sometimes it's tough to be the Lore Keeper, huh?

Anyway, I've been reading LL again, and I can't help with the comparison. I didn't (and still don't) think Roberts deserved the praise heaped on him, he was overhyped, but even his lower quality work was better than this. My main problem with this is that the story seems to be moving at a snail's pace. We were told that this series will be 12 issues initially, but so far barely anything has happened. So unless the 2nd half really kicks things into gear, this story is lost. Even so, it will be poorly paced at best. Honestly, I think it should have been different than what the Aligned continuity has given us so far, and perhaps have Orion and Megatron go back to their real roots, and be enemies from the very start, each representing a certain set of values and ideals.

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm still hoping they do what DC did with New 52, realize it was a mistake, and revive the original continuity.

I have been reading DC comics this whole time and that did not happen. They keep making that abundantly clear by showing us that some characters pasts have changed and arent coming back like Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain and so on.

That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

snavej wrote:That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

Bah you and your physics!

snavej wrote:That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

They have liquid metal faces and can shape-shift their size stop pulling hairs

I found Issue 6 frustrating and annoying, especially after the previous issue delivered so much momentum and plot. We have walking and talking (without the walking) and no action. I did like the extended metaphor of Megatron pushing the status quo and preferring to take things away from equilibrium- the whole scene with the moon and the free-fall away from gravitational balance. That, and the way Megatron presents a clear and well-developed argument for change.

But if all the clues were there, doesn't Orion come across as a little blind or naive?

Video review: https://youtu.be/8KdGqmiqhTk

I really enjoyed the art on the issue, but the story again felt stalled out. We had a great climax with things moving last issue, and then we take an issue off. I really wish something else had happened, or that this had been earlier in the series so this issue was the climatic one and we could move on to the next issue ready and rising

I can't help but think IDW has kind of...ran out of steam and this is coming from a guy who ended up loathing where the overall universe went. But, still, let me explain. Its not that I'm bugged by yet-another-reboot. Transformers is on its what, eight-ish-and-a-half rebooted universe? What has bugged me with the current IDW crop is that its at times very bland and very safe and I'm not entirely sure how to put it into word: were they told by Hasbro to 'cut the shit and make some pretty basic stuff?'

If so, if they were indeed told and mandated to make a very basic Transformers tale then they're doing a terrible job. Each of these major reboots had their own identity: RiD was kind of experimental as it took a spinoff of G1 in Japan and made it a self contained story and the early 2000 anime dub gave it its own style. Unicron Trilog took this anime fusion to a next level even if it was gimmick-laden. Movie-verse was crude and hyper violent but it had a flair of its own. Animated was a very unique superhero team show with a young Optimus. WFC presented Aligned continuity as this rebooted G1 while Prime definitely made its own thing with sprawling mythos and references. Cyberverse itself is basically just that but in a more kid-friendly package.

This? I don't know I just don't really get any strong feelings on what this reboot is like/about. Am I crazy? Am I making sense or just rambling? It feel at times like a washed out IDW and Aligned that has all the color and unique quirks (good, bad and godawful) slightly faded and washed out.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Sometimes it's tough to be the Lore Keeper, huh?

Indeed. I have the hardest life.

william-james88 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm still hoping they do what DC did with New 52, realize it was a mistake, and revive the original continuity.

I have been reading DC comics this whole time and that did not happen. They keep making that abundantly clear by showing us that some characters pasts have changed and arent coming back like Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain and so on.

From what I've seen, they merged elements of the 52 and original universes, but OG is still the dominant fiction as far as I can tell.

Six issues in and I'm really fucking bored with this series.

Lore Keeper wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm still hoping they do what DC did with New 52, realize it was a mistake, and revive the original continuity.

I have been reading DC comics this whole time and that did not happen. They keep making that abundantly clear by showing us that some characters pasts have changed and arent coming back like Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain and so on.

From what I've seen, they merged elements of the 52 and original universes, but OG is still the dominant fiction as far as I can tell.

Nope.
They've restored certain elements (mostly replacing New 52 Lois and Clark with old Lois and Clark and bringing back White Wally with vague memories of the other time line) but for the bulk of it it's still borne out of New 52.

Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

Randomhero wrote:Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

It's not just you. I actually enjoyed it.

I do want puncing and shooting, and yes...transforming. But all of that has to serve the story. Just like an all dialogue issue.

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

It's not just you. I actually enjoyed it.

I do want puncing and shooting, and yes...transforming. But all of that has to serve the story. Just like an all dialogue issue.

I dont think anyone really minds all dialogue issues. The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

This comic is nowhere near a James Roberts all dialogue issue.

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

It's not just you. I actually enjoyed it.

I do want puncing and shooting, and yes...transforming. But all of that has to serve the story. Just like an all dialogue issue.

I dont think anyone really minds all dialogue issues. The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

This comic is nowhere near a James Roberts all dialogue issue.

I loved the first IDW-verse. It’s my favorite fiction with transformers for 35 years and I’m not comparing this to that and I’m seeing a lot people doing that and mainly James roberts’s books but I refuse to. This is its own thing and yes it’s right after those stories but I’m not going to compare this to those. In my opinion it’s not fair to to it but I also think it’s unfair to continuously judge it till the first arc is done which is 12 issues. But that’s just me.

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

It's not just you. I actually enjoyed it.

I do want puncing and shooting, and yes...transforming. But all of that has to serve the story. Just like an all dialogue issue.

I dont think anyone really minds all dialogue issues. The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

This comic is nowhere near a James Roberts all dialogue issue.

I didn't say it was "near" a James Roberts all dialogue issue. I didn't even hint at that.

What I'm saying is I enjoyed it on the merits of what it is, and without comparison to anything else.

Like you guys, I want to "get to it" so to speak, but I realize there are meta reasons for a slow burn comic when it comes out every two weeks. This all just smacks of 15 or so years ago, which really only makes me tired.

I'm not buying this series because I got burned out by all of DC's Rebirth bi-weekly books, and honestly this new reboot sounded like a rehash of the previous IDW universe which was IMHO was the greatest "G1" and "G1 inspired" media ever produced by anyone. So why should I support and settle for a cheap knock-off of a superior product?

If they really wanted me to buy this series then they should make a VASTLY different take on the Transformers, and just not another rehash of the previous universes. Maybe I'll buy this when it comes out in TPB or HC but right now since I'm saving $8 a month to buy other books that I like, so for me it's an easy pass.

Cyberstrike wrote:I'm not buying this series because I got burned badly by DC's Rebirth bi-weekly books, and honestly this new reboot sounded like a rehash of the previous IDW universe which was IMHO was the greatest "G1" and "G1 inspired" media ever produced by anyone and why should I settle for a cheap knock-off of a superior product?

I can get behind all of that, including the comparison to DC. So far, I have yet to read a DC story in its Rebirth line that really outdid itself.

william-james88 wrote:The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

That's your opinion, certainly not fact.

On the topic of issue six.

I made an account to vent and give my two cents on the issue.
IDW 2005 wasn't perfect so stop acting like it was. Is it better than this? Of course, but that's like comparing the acting ability of an eleven-year old up-and-comer with Robert Downey Jr.
I miss James, but I miss Elegant Chaos, Chaos Theory, Remain in Light, and just pre-Dying of the Light James. So basically pre-Revolution where everything went to crap in all corners of IDW because of bad editorial and higher-up choices.
James, as he's said, is done with Transformers for now so we need to get over it.

Now onto the issue: I liked it. Gave me Exodus flashbacks with the two being friends. I find the art nice and reminiscent of the early Windblade issues(idk if same artist), and the scene in space? I loved it. No, nothing will beat Chromedome reuniting with Rewind, but that had years of build up.
Yes, I think perhaps following up with useless character--I mean Rubble's(hopeful) death would have been the best way to go, but to me this is nice. Yes the first few issues were slow, but it could be said that slow is better than fast-paced non-stop events going on in other comics*cough*Marvel*cough*. The art was better, we got some backstory on Orion and Megatron, we got some more lore with Codexa and the Nominus thing.
Not much they could do with their relationship that hasn't been done, guys.
Brothers, Bayverse. Strangers, G1. Acquaintances turned adversaries, IDW 2005. Friends, Aligned continuity and Exodus. Not much to do. At least they're keeping things familiar with Archivist and Miner/Gladiator.

Yes, I think past issue one has been very, very slow. I blame that on a useless character--I mean Rubble's prolonged existence, but that's just my invalid opinion.
I personally liked issue six, and would love for this to turn out somewhat like Griffith and Guts relationship in the anime "Berserk." Not...entirely like that, mind you, but the same feeling of brothers turned hated enemies due to clashing ideals and one's overwhelming desire for power to help bring about their dream.
I think this will be a slow trek, but a worthwhile one. People always wanted peaceful pre-war Cybertron and I've seen people always wanting to go over the entire fall of Cybertron. This will be long, but I think that payoff of Orion and Megatron turning into enemies will be worth it. We just need to endure with the literal universe-building the man is doing and appreciate that Nautica is now a mainstay.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

That's your opinion, certainly not fact.

Of course, thats written in the begining of the article. Since when can anything taste related be factual?

Although, I was surprised at how much agreeing there were in the comments.

It would be nice to not have to judge a comic until the trade is out, and the arc is done, but you do, as a reviewer and as a reader. You're expected to do some analysis. To make connections and interest others in possibly responding to your thoughts and ideas. A review can't be only stating facts of this happened that happened and done. (I don't claim to be good at any of those things, or better than anyone else - once upon a time, it fell in my lap-).

Reviews are a service to site users/visitors. They give a heads up that a recent issue was released, and maybe give someone a reason to buy, pay attention to, or ignore an issue without spoiling the issue -but I really don't think we have that much influence on users.

Most of you posting here don't fall into the above category of user. You are passionate readers who know what you like, or what you'd like to see, and how the current comics are doing at meeting that. You buy the comics, sometimes out of habit, or because you do like to consume this media for your Transformers fix. The review in this case, pretty much just gives us a way to start building conversations, if needed.

I think Scotty does a really nice job of analyzing Transformers literature, as many of you do, too. Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with his takes on it, that's what conversations are about. You all know that good discussions come about because one person said something they thought and then another person introduces their point of view based on their thinking and experiences, and away we go, we have ideas flowing and dialogue! If they are respectful of each other, and actually hearing each other out, it works really well!

Like many of you, I do personally love back stories containing Cybertronian history. Ever since Dreamwave's War Within series (but even before that with issues of Marvel and UK comics, or episodes of the cartoons that take us back in time like 'War Dawn'), I've always wanted more. I'm not sure really why, maybe, because it makes the whole world that we're currently reading about/viewing seem a little more solid. I also like to see what characters show up and have a role in events that have transpired. I like seeing their pre-Earth alt modes and looks.

Sadly, I didn't have anything to really offer Scotty about this issue when I read it and he was writing the review. It did feel very familiar, which is what I shared. Well, I think I said, "not much happened again" and based on the current situation with the comics, I wasn't looking for this so much (Orion and Megatron's Point Break adventure), as I was looking to see what actually happened with Rubble at the end of the last issue. I also know, I'm not in charge of timeline, nor do I know overall how this issue will fit in. SO in looking back it may end up being perfectly timed.

Thanks for the remarks. I do enjoy seeing what others think because I often get an idea of things that I might have missed, or things I might not have thought of. I'm glad some are enjoying the series, some are giving it a chance, some are disagreeing with what's been said about the issue, and some are supporting what's been said in the review.


On a side note, comic review staff has thinned tremendously. Issues every two weeks are taxing in trying to come up with more to say about Transformers content that has been a (mostly) slow simmer.




If you might be interested in being a comic reviewer on Seibertron, we are looking to get some more dedicated reviewers again. Share your review of issue #7 in two weeks. You can e-mail it to me (PDF or e-mail text) at tt24@seibertron.com. I'll share what I get with ryan (seibertron) and the other comics, podcast, and staff, and we'll see where it goes from there.

Thanks for keeping the conversation going! -Old Timer Tigetrack

ThunderPax wrote:On the topic of issue six.

I made an account to vent and give my two cents on the issue.
IDW 2005 wasn't perfect so stop acting like it was. Is it better than this? Of course, but that's like comparing the acting ability of an eleven-year old up-and-comer with Robert Downey Jr.
I miss James, but I miss Elegant Chaos, Chaos Theory, Remain in Light, and just pre-Dying of the Light James. So basically pre-Revolution where everything went to crap in all corners of IDW because of bad editorial and higher-up choices.
James, as he's said, is done with Transformers for now so we need to get over it.

Now onto the issue: I liked it. Gave me Exodus flashbacks with the two being friends. I find the art nice and reminiscent of the early Windblade issues(idk if same artist), and the scene in space? I loved it. No, nothing will beat Chromedome reuniting with Rewind, but that had years of build up.
Yes, I think perhaps following up with useless character--I mean Rubble's(hopeful) death would have been the best way to go, but to me this is nice. Yes the first few issues were slow, but it could be said that slow is better than fast-paced non-stop events going on in other comics*cough*Marvel*cough*. The art was better, we got some backstory on Orion and Megatron, we got some more lore with Codexa and the Nominus thing.
Not much they could do with their relationship that hasn't been done, guys.
Brothers, Bayverse. Strangers, G1. Acquaintances turned adversaries, IDW 2005. Friends, Aligned continuity and Exodus. Not much to do. At least they're keeping things familiar with Archivist and Miner/Gladiator.

Yes, I think past issue one has been very, very slow. I blame that on a useless character--I mean Rubble's prolonged existence, but that's just my invalid opinion.
I personally liked issue six, and would love for this to turn out somewhat like Griffith and Guts relationship in the anime "Berserk." Not...entirely like that, mind you, but the same feeling of brothers turned hated enemies due to clashing ideals and one's overwhelming desire for power to help bring about their dream.
I think this will be a slow trek, but a worthwhile one. People always wanted peaceful pre-war Cybertron and I've seen people always wanting to go over the entire fall of Cybertron. This will be long, but I think that payoff of Orion and Megatron turning into enemies will be worth it. We just need to endure with the literal universe-building the man is doing and appreciate that Nautica is now a mainstay.

I think everyone here is looking to be able to say that when we are much further along in the series, no doubt.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

That's your opinion, certainly not fact.

Of course, that's written in the begining of the article. Since when can anything taste related be factual?

Okay, I was just making sure. I don't care for others' opinions to be forced on me in general, that's all. Maybe I missed something...?

Anyway, I also agree that prequel stories are something a lot of fans would find interesting, which is why some of us were looking forward to this, and when it didn't live up to expectations, the disappointment was amplified.

Randomhero wrote:Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

Except to me, this is nothing new. Their friendship has been covered, maybe not as much in depth as this, but it's been done.

I've given this book six issues, and it's done nothing to really hold my attention, if I wasn't a Transformers fan I would have given up on it.

It's just an incredibly slow story, most comic books you have a pay off, or you can see where things are going, but I can't see where this book his headed, I can't see an incentive for myself, and most likely others, to want to keep reading this book.

Randomhero wrote:

snavej wrote:That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

They have liquid metal faces and can shape-shift their size stop pulling hairs

This isn't a 'hair', it's a major problem. Don't be so dismissive. It's insulting.

The only way the 'captive moon' would work is if they used gigantic anti-gravity generators, as per the Cybertron mould in the previous continuity. If they do this, why bother with a tether at all? The anti-gravity could do the job infinitely better.

snavej wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

snavej wrote:That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

They have liquid metal faces and can shape-shift their size stop pulling hairs

This isn't a 'hair', it's a major problem. Don't be so dismissive. It's insulting.

The only way the 'captive moon' would work is if they used gigantic anti-gravity generators, as per the Cybertron mould in the previous continuity. If they do this, why bother with a tether at all? The anti-gravity could do the job infinitely better.

Not to be difficult or insulting, but why wouldn't it work in an advanced technology civilization (to put it mildly)?

It's science fiction indistinguishable from magic. It works because they say it does.

sol magnus wrote:

snavej wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

snavej wrote:That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

They have liquid metal faces and can shape-shift their size stop pulling hairs

This isn't a 'hair', it's a major problem. Don't be so dismissive. It's insulting.

The only way the 'captive moon' would work is if they used gigantic anti-gravity generators, as per the Cybertron mould in the previous continuity. If they do this, why bother with a tether at all? The anti-gravity could do the job infinitely better.

Not to be difficult or insulting, but why wouldn't it work in an advanced technology civilization (to put it mildly)?

It's science fiction indistinguishable from magic. It works because they say it does.

Exactly. This is a franchise with a giant planet eating robot Satan that can take a damaged near death character and reformat them with godly powers. Who cares about the physics of an elevator that’s connecting a planet to a moon.

It’s a 100% splitting hairs and finding something to complain about

Seibertronians now listed at Previewsworld are images for alternate covers for Transformers issues #7 and #8. Issue #7 is due in at your local comic book shop by June 12, 2019 and is listed for SRP: $3.99. The issue cover also states that a Transformers Trading Card Game booster pack will also be included. Although unable to further verify at this time it is presumed this will not be a part of the Siege wave since that is set to release at the end of June. Listed are the CVR Christian Ward (variant cover A) and the 10-copy retailer incentive cover by Guido Guidi.

We also have a new cover for issue #8, the Jeffrey Veregge 10 copy incentive cover.

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When another body shows up, Chromia and Prowl feel the pressure to get answers. Bumblebee, meanwhile, applies for a new job-as a bodyguard. But first, he has to impress Elita-1.” The article further states that a “New story begins here! A brand-new era of Transformers!

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Is that a buck Rodgers starfighter I see in that scenic cover?

ZeroWolf wrote:Is that a buck Rodgers starfighter I see in that scenic cover?

Unmistakably.

For all you comic fans and Shockwave fans out there, we have some good news! The John Gallagher cover for issue #4 of the new IDW Transformers ongoing has now gone live and is available for order. The Gallagher cover features Shockwave, and comes in 2 different variants. The "Battle Ready" version is the clean version of the cover and features Shockwave ready for combat; this version is limited to 600 pieces. The "Battle Damage" version features a bunch of new flame details along with some pretty significant damage to Shockwave himself; this version is limited to 500 pieces.

For you US residents, you can order these on Comics Mint, and you Canadian readers can get it from Mutant Beaver Comics.

Check them out below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

That looks AWESOME

I love his Shockwave pistol I want that thing. If ever they did Shockwave in a Voyager scale this would make way cool box art. Always love Shockwave news - thank you sir!