Third Hidden Message on #HasbroSDCC Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Poster - on the Same One Again?

Darth-Badguy wrote:Has anyone posted the translation somewhere?

Nickster563 wrote:Well it seems each copy of a poster does indeed have unique hidden messages. I finally got a proper blacklight and was not able to find the first hidden message but did finally get the whole message i found in ome picture.

Though I must say, is doing a pretty good job with the community interaction in this line, with the only setback potentially being this potential 'each poster has a unique message thing.'

WreckerJack wrote:I wonder if these go in some type of order. Does anyone have a list of all of the ones so far?

Qwan wrote:I'm figuring "Autobots, the hour is upon us" is intended to prefix some phrase or another (be it one of the other two we've found, or another one we haven't uncovered yet).

WreckerJack wrote:I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Amelie wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Is Generations Drift not good enough?

WreckerJack wrote:That does make sense considering the IDW comics are about Unicron too. I know these are different things but - how cool would it be if they were connected somehow? (And how many ppl have been asking for comic character figures - I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Emerje wrote:

Amelie wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Is Generations Drift not good enough?

That figure is already eight years old and we never got another one in Generations which is really crazy.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Amelie wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Is Generations Drift not good enough?

That figure is already eight years old and we never got another one in Generations which is really crazy.

Does "being old" some how make a figure "bad" enough that it needs to be replaced?

Why not instead desire a reissue of the previous figure instead of a new one, like how both Cosmos and Skrapnel got reissued?

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Amelie wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Is Generations Drift not good enough?

That figure is already eight years old and we never got another one in Generations which is really crazy.

Does "being old" some how make a figure "bad" enough that it needs to be replaced?

Why not instead desire a reissue of the previous figure instead of a new one, like how both Cosmos and Skrapnel got reissued?

Because a Cybertron mode Drift would be really nice. And a Deadlock of course.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Amelie wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Is Generations Drift not good enough?

That figure is already eight years old and we never got another one in Generations which is really crazy.

Does "being old" some how make a figure "bad" enough that it needs to be replaced?

Why not instead desire a reissue of the previous figure instead of a new one, like how both Cosmos and Skrapnel got reissued?

Because a Cybertron mode Drift would be really nice. And a Deadlock of course.

I saw someone who digibashed Drift and Deadlock using the P/CP figure. It looked pretty cool, but considering the "No gimmicks unless they were in the original toy" rule of the line I doubt we'd get something like that unfortunately

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I saw someone who digibashed Drift and Deadlock using the P/CP figure. It looked pretty cool, but considering the "No gimmicks unless they were in the original toy" rule of the line I doubt we'd get something like that unfortunately

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I saw someone who digibashed Drift and Deadlock using the P/CP figure. It looked pretty cool, but considering the "No gimmicks unless they were in the original toy" rule of the line I doubt we'd get something like that unfortunately

Whoa, hold on, where did you get that rule from?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I saw someone who digibashed Drift and Deadlock using the P/CP figure. It looked pretty cool, but considering the "No gimmicks unless they were in the original toy" rule of the line I doubt we'd get something like that unfortunately

Whoa, hold on, where did you get that rule from?

ZeroWolf wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:That does make sense considering the IDW comics are about Unicron too. I know these are different things but - how cool would it be if they were connected somehow? (And how many ppl have been asking for comic character figures - I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Why I do think it'll be awesome for this line to go he whole hog and introduce Unicron with his own faction (you know the drill, Titan Unicron with a Leader class main underling/herald and a couple of voyagers and a few deluxes and a weaponizer or two) it's just I can't see him being teased till the second line at least. Anything to do with the end of the comics is purely coincidence as when this line is full swing, idw continuity as it currently is will already be cold in the ground.

Reboot continuity on the other hand...

Skritz wrote:Unicron-as-faction has long been a thing which has floated around in Transformers lore and series without ever becoming a concrete thing: even going back as far as flat out Unicron's first appearance in The Movie where he's not really aligned with the 'cons and rather is using them (or at least Galvatron's gang) to enact his plan to destroy everyone. We've had plenty of vaguely (or not so vaguely) Unicronian agents as a mysterious third faction in TV shows and comics but generally speaking for toyline and classification purposes they were listed as Decepticons.

The idea of introducing a third faction to Transformers and having the toyline reflect this would be a huge thing for Hasbro and the only time I recall it being a thing was Beast Hunters, unless you count Beast Wars and Beast Machine but these still played by the rules of one good faction vs one evil faction. Presumably a Unicron faction would have it's own symbol. Part of me think this is not something Hasbro would be willing to just casually introduce.

Skritz wrote:We've had plenty of vaguely (or not so vaguely) Unicronian agents as a mysterious third faction in TV shows and comics but generally speaking for toyline and classification purposes they were listed as Decepticons.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Amelie wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Is Generations Drift not good enough?

That figure is already eight years old and we never got another one in Generations which is really crazy.

Does "being old" some how make a figure "bad" enough that it needs to be replaced?

Why not instead desire a reissue of the previous figure instead of a new one, like how both Cosmos and Skrapnel got reissued?

Skritz wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:That does make sense considering the IDW comics are about Unicron too. I know these are different things but - how cool would it be if they were connected somehow? (And how many ppl have been asking for comic character figures - I still want Pharma and Drift dangit!)

Why I do think it'll be awesome for this line to go he whole hog and introduce Unicron with his own faction (you know the drill, Titan Unicron with a Leader class main underling/herald and a couple of voyagers and a few deluxes and a weaponizer or two) it's just I can't see him being teased till the second line at least. Anything to do with the end of the comics is purely coincidence as when this line is full swing, idw continuity as it currently is will already be cold in the ground.

Reboot continuity on the other hand...

Unicron-as-faction has long been a thing which has floated around in Transformers lore and series without ever becoming a concrete thing: even going back as far as flat out Unicron's first appearance in The Movie where he's not really aligned with the 'cons and rather is using them (or at least Galvatron's gang) to enact his plan to destroy everyone. We've had plenty of vaguely (or not so vaguely) Unicronian agents as a mysterious third faction in TV shows and comics but generally speaking for toyline and classification purposes they were listed as Decepticons.

The idea of introducing a third faction to Transformers and having the toyline reflect this would be a huge thing for Hasbro and the only time I recall it being a thing was Beast Hunters, unless you count Beast Wars and Beast Machine but these still played by the rules of one good faction vs one evil faction. Presumably a Unicron faction would have it's own symbol. Part of me think this is not something Hasbro would be willing to just casually introduce.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So someone on twitter told me that, despite being slight retools of Moonracer, Chromia (and assumedly Firestar as well) have their combiner pegs removed, making them unable to combine with Elita-1. Anyone know if that's true? And if so, what the hell is the point of using the cool, but obviously very flawed, Moonracer mold 2 more times?

Cobotron wrote:Pretty sure, like 99.99% sure that Firestar is a straight repaint of Moon racer with a new head.

Chromia on the other hand was confirmed at SDCC to be neutered of her peg.

o.supreme wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So someone on twitter told me that, despite being slight retools of Moonracer, Chromia (and assumedly Firestar as well) have their combiner pegs removed, making them unable to combine with Elita-1. Anyone know if that's true? And if so, what the hell is the point of using the cool, but obviously very flawed, Moonracer mold 2 more times?

Firestar should be in tact as she is the last release of PotP. But we had a long discussion here. It was disappointing, but knowledge since the reveal; at SDCC, that Chromia would not be a combiner. (pics analyzed form many angles).Many fans, including myself, are disappointed. Why was the combiner mechanism removed? Probably to fit with the "lack of gimmick" for the Siege line. (Never mind that every line since T30 has had some bleed over from the previous...). It doesn't make sense to most of us, but it is what it is. Hopefully either through , or perhaps in a future generations line, or even as exclusives, combiners will at some point return.

My workplace just out through orders for our first shipments of War For Cybertron: Siege figures. Included in the Leader Class assortment was a listing for Leader Class Shockwave. I didn't see this info myself so I can not confirm it, but the biggest Shockwave fan in the store did the ordering, so he knows what he's talking about. So for now, I will say this is a rumour.

The store I work for is an independently owned collectibles store, but the cases we order are the same as regular big box retailers. The listings were all by name, and mostly what we've seen already, except for a few (Voyager Class "M", presumably Megatron, Deluxe "S", possibly Starscream, Leader Class "G", maybe a Galvatron?) but Shockwave was identified by name in the Leader Class assortment

kurthy wrote:Damn it, I don't need a leader shocky. I need a voyager and a deluxe.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will take a well done Shockwave. His time has come.

Though still a tad disappointed that it looks like it will be Shockwave and not Tidal Wave

Va'al wrote:One of the biggest talking points, after the initial reveal of the War for Cybertron Siege toys from San Diego Comic Con 2018, was what wasn't shown in any of the documentation, presentations or actual displays: the Decepticons.

Now that distributors such as Entertainment Earth and Diamond are sending out their orders listings for stores for this fall, however, we have more than just a hint towards the purple faction showing up as early as wave 1. Fellow Seibertronian Samsonator contacted us to let us know the following:

My workplace just out through orders for our first shipments of War For Cybertron: Siege figures. Included in the Leader Class assortment was a listing for Leader Class Shockwave. I didn't see this info myself so I can not confirm it, but the biggest Shockwave fan in the store did the ordering, so he knows what he's talking about. So for now, I will say this is a rumour.

The store I work for is an independently owned collectibles store, but the cases we order are the same as regular big box retailers. The listings were all by name, and mostly what we've seen already, except for a few (Voyager Class "M", presumably Megatron, Deluxe "S", possibly Starscream, Leader Class "G", maybe a Galvatron?) but Shockwave was identified by name in the Leader Class assortment

We did some digging, and the rumour may appear to be indeed founded, with wave 1 supposedly including: Battle Masters Blowpipe, Lionizer and Firedrive; Micro Masters Race Car Patrol, Battle Patrol, Airstrike Patrol; Deluxes Sideswipe, Deluxe S (starscream?), Cog, Hound; Voyagers Optimus Prime and M (megatron?); Leaders Ultra Magnus and, here he is, Shockwave. Take this with a pinch of salt until a full reveal from Hasbro and/or corroboration from another source, but in the meantime, feel free to join the speculation in the Energon Pub!

War for Cybertron Shockwave image used for reference

Lunatic Prime wrote:

kurthy wrote:Damn it, I don't need a leader shocky. I need a voyager and a deluxe.

I already got enough Deluxe and Voyager Shockwaves but there's never been a Shockwave beyond Voyager class (as far as I remember). So don't be so darn selfish

starrhero wrote:

Va'al wrote:One of the biggest talking points, after the initial reveal of the War for Cybertron Siege toys from San Diego Comic Con 2018, was what wasn't shown in any of the documentation, presentations or actual displays: the Decepticons.

Now that distributors such as Entertainment Earth and Diamond are sending out their orders listings for stores for this fall, however, we have more than just a hint towards the purple faction showing up as early as wave 1. Fellow Seibertronian Samsonator contacted us to let us know the following:

My workplace just out through orders for our first shipments of War For Cybertron: Siege figures. Included in the Leader Class assortment was a listing for Leader Class Shockwave. I didn't see this info myself so I can not confirm it, but the biggest Shockwave fan in the store did the ordering, so he knows what he's talking about. So for now, I will say this is a rumour.

The store I work for is an independently owned collectibles store, but the cases we order are the same as regular big box retailers. The listings were all by name, and mostly what we've seen already, except for a few (Voyager Class "M", presumably Megatron, Deluxe "S", possibly Starscream, Leader Class "G", maybe a Galvatron?) but Shockwave was identified by name in the Leader Class assortment

We did some digging, and the rumour may appear to be indeed founded, with wave 1 supposedly including: Battle Masters Blowpipe, Lionizer and Firedrive; Micro Masters Race Car Patrol, Battle Patrol, Airstrike Patrol; Deluxes Sideswipe, Deluxe S (starscream?), Cog, Hound; Voyagers Optimus Prime and M (megatron?); Leaders Ultra Magnus and, here he is, Shockwave. Take this with a pinch of salt until a full reveal from Hasbro and/or corroboration from another source, but in the meantime, feel free to join the speculation in the Energon Pub!

War for Cybertron Shockwave image used for reference

But wait, wasn't the idea that this line was supposed to be as G1 accurate as possible? Because if it is, Megatron & Shockwave should be the same size, and if Megatron is a voyager, Shockwave should be as well... Right?

Lunatic Prime wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will take a well done Shockwave. His time has come.

Though still a tad disappointed that it looks like it will be Shockwave and not Tidal Wave

Maybe it'll be Micron Legends Shockwave
I mean we'll get an RID Ultra Magnus alt mode. So why not?
And maybe this one can finally combine with a Megatron

kurthy wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

kurthy wrote:Damn it, I don't need a leader shocky. I need a voyager and a deluxe.

I already got enough Deluxe and Voyager Shockwaves but there's never been a Shockwave beyond Voyager class (as far as I remember). So don't be so darn selfish

MP shockwave and original shockwave both fill that need. The deluxe and voyager shockwaves have been awful, so I would like a good one in either size class.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

kurthy wrote:
MP shockwave and original shockwave both fill that need. The deluxe and voyager shockwaves have been awful, so I would like a good one in either size class.

But both are way to expensive and rare by now

kurthy wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

kurthy wrote:
MP shockwave and original shockwave both fill that need. The deluxe and voyager shockwaves have been awful, so I would like a good one in either size class.

But both are way to expensive and rare by now

The MP is on sale at BBTS for $120 and the G1 has reissues on eBay for under $70. Considering that seige will be about $50 and not be anywhere as good as those two, yeah, I'll pass on it.

ZeroWolf wrote:Though if it's a voyager class Shockwave packaged with armour to put the pricing up to leader class, and then said armour could be given to Megatron...I'll be down for that