Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Possible Armada Homage with 'Galvatronus'

Wow, this has me very interested. Just on the colors alone, regardless of what it may homage.

Did Starscream ever wear his traditional colors in the Unicron Trilogy?

On one hand, I really hope this is true. On the other, my wallet is begging me for it to be false.

Energon starscream had a g1 homage. I'm really down for this. I've been wanting some random 'con combiner limbs.

More bogus homage repaints instead of new characters. Money saved. Now where is Victorian and G2 Superion already?

Cobotron wrote:Wow, this has me very interested. Justt on the colors alone, regardless of what it may homage.

Did Starscream ever wear his traditional colors in the Unicron Trilogy?

Energon Starscream was repainted/remolded into his G1 not-undead look.

All in all, this seems strange to me. I would have expected a line up based on characters' start of show colors, not their repaints, and if they were doing an Energon homage, I would have expected torso-tron to be rendered in white, blue, and green (start of Energon), or to look more like the American version of CW Cyclonus, the G1 colors a close match to Energon Megatron's G1-Galvatron-style repaint.

Edit: I really feel like his left arm is supposed to look like Cybertron Crumplezone, but except for the torso being Thundercracker (if it uses Scattorshot's head), nothing else seems to line up with Cybertron/Galaxy Force. Plus, if they were doing Cybertron, I'd have expected Hotspot and Groove to be Mudflap and Ransack.

Edit 2: Left arm could be Armada Thrust? But again, the rest don't really line up with Armada.

Caelus wrote:Energon Starscream was repainted/remolded into his G1 not-undead look.

Ah right. Thanks. I have Ghostscream. Forgot about the repaint.

I'm not convinced on the homage theories yet, though I'm open to them. I'm hoping it's just some wacky new cannon on Takara's part.

Obviously, the right arm is Starscream and the left leg is most likely Demolishor. The torso looks like it could be either Cybertron Galvatron or Energon Megatron (keep in mind that I know next to nothing about the UT. I'm just going off of colors). Left arm has Armada Thrust colors. And the right leg could be Brushguard. Or maybe an upsized Payload.

Pretty nice colors at least. Now give us some official names and shots!

Left arm looks like g1 starscream, right arm looks like its armada thrust with those colors, the left leg looks like its soundwave, and the right leg idk who its supposed to be but until then the supense will be killing us XD but I bet some people are annoyed that the limbs aren't alpha bravo, off-road, and Rook XD

I think the torso could be homaging G1 Galvatron's toy colors.

Theres probably some hardcore fan screaming at the screen the character they think the right leg is XD

Just what in the world is this thing supposed to be?!

Sabrblade wrote:Just what in the world is this thing supposed to be?!

Some sort of meta-homage? Various ut figure homages combining to homage g1 toy galvatron... He even has the two-toned cannon... man he does seem a little out there...



I like it, seriously might pre-order this

I wonder if it's an intentional mish-mash of loosely Unicron related characters?

Torso looks to be based on Galvatron's G1 toy, with the prominent white/lavender.
You've got G1 Starscream on the right arm, and he (pretended to) helped Unicron in the Cartoon.
Left arm looks like Armada Thrust, who was convinced by Sideways to work for Unicron.
Right Leg might be Animated Soundwave? Cybertron Soundwave worked for Unicron, so maybe it's a loose connection?

As for the Left Leg, the only character I know of with that balance of white and red/orange was the 2007 Movie figure Wreckage, who also transformed into that type of vehicle. Although he has zero to do with the big yellow devilbot, so I don't know.

In other Unite Warriors news, a collector got their hands on Guardian early and posted an extensive gallery of in-hand images - https://picasaweb.google.com/113374949723608070584/UW03

Sabrblade wrote:Just what in the world is this thing supposed to be?!

If Sabr can't figure this out ... we're all DOOMED!!!

Sabrblade wrote:In other Unite Warriors news, a collector got their hands on Guardian early and posted an extensive gallery of in-hand images - https://picasaweb.google.com/113374949723608070584/UW03

Man, those painted rims really do a world of good for these figures, I hate that hasbro has cheaped out on paint so much that they can't even paint the rims on their figures

Combined mode still looks like garbage with all that molded detail washed out

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just what in the world is this thing supposed to be?!

If Sabr can't figure this out ... we're all DOOMED!!!

Yeah, I can see how original idea's can throw people for a loop in a toyline that has devolved into nothing but homages and updates

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:In other Unite Warriors news, a collector got their hands on Guardian early and posted an extensive gallery of in-hand images - https://picasaweb.google.com/113374949723608070584/UW03

Man, those painted rims really do a world of good for these figures, I hate that hasbro has cheaped out on paint so much that they can't even paint the rims on their figures

There's a rim job joke somewhere around here.

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:In other Unite Warriors news, a collector got their hands on Guardian early and posted an extensive gallery of in-hand images - https://picasaweb.google.com/113374949723608070584/UW03

Man, those painted rims really do a world of good for these figures, I hate that hasbro has cheaped out on paint so much that they can't even paint the rims on their figures

There's a rim job joke somewhere around here.

Yeah, somebody sig'ed a good one a while back

You gonna do galleries for the uw guys - or, at least, defensor, bruticus, and whatever this guy is, since they'll all be 'new'?

Sabrblade wrote:Just what in the world is this thing supposed to be?!

Whoever they are, I'm now interested in them. Guess I ought to start setting some aside for Galvatronus (if that even is his name).

I do like the theory that each part of the combined mode has some sort of association with Unicron.

Hellscream9999 wrote:You gonna do galleries for the uw guys - or, at least, defensor, bruticus, and whatever this guy is, since they'll all be 'new'?

I'm planning on it but probably only after UW Devastator and other new molds that are out currently. Not until after the new year unfortunately.

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just what in the world is this thing supposed to be?!

Whoever they are, I'm now interested in them. Guess I ought to start setting some aside for Galvatronus (if that even is his name).

I do like the theory that each part of the combined mode has some sort of association with Unicron.

Yeah, it's a lot more interesting/relevant/proper than making up some bullsh!t excuse for not giving him his own limbs (especially with two whole sets of dumb '84 limbs in the line)

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:You gonna do galleries for the uw guys - or, at least, defensor, bruticus, and whatever this guy is, since they'll all be 'new'?

I'm planning on it but probably only after UW Devastator and other new molds that are out currently. Not until after the new year unfortunately.

That's cool, no need to feel rushed on my account, besides, with yuki having tweeted about bigroove most of the last half a year, we've seen about everything there is to see of him. Still wouldn't mind a junkion two-pack of him

(could you please name deluxe grooves gallery 'Bigroove'?)

The apparent steel blue/silver gradient makes me think of Movie Megatron's early toys.

Mindmaster wrote:I do like the theory that each part of the combined mode has some sort of association with Unicron.

Starscream was killed by a Unicron-powered Galvatron, Thrust was killed by Unicron's shoulder transforming... hell, Megatron could be considered "killed" to create Galvatron... who else was indirectly killed by Unicorn?

Railbomb wrote:I think the torso could be homaging G1 Galvatron's toy colors.

Just thinking about this. IF they are homaging the G1 Galvatron toy, (seems pretty logical) why would they homage Hasbro's?
Takara's looked like this.


Edit: My bad. That is the 2005 re-issue. Helps to read the fine print sometimes.

The torso seems to be G1 Galvatron's toy colors, with the right arm being in G1 Starscream's cartoon colors, but then there's the weird notion of the left arm being in Armada Thrust colors, while the right leg could be practically any Decepticon who was a solidly dark blue truck (Prime Breakdown?), and then there's the left leg Rook mold in colors that belong to NO ONE obvious or recognizable, which is bizarre considering how slavish TakaraTomy is with their UW toy decos.

Sabrblade wrote:The torso seems to be G1 Galvatron's toy colors, with the right arm being in G1 Starscream's cartoon colors, but then there's the weird notion of the left arm being in Armada Thrust colors, while the right leg could be practically any Decepticon who was a solidly dark blue truck (Prime Breakdown?), and then there's the left leg Rook mold in colors that belong to NO ONE obvious or recognizable, which is bizarre considering how slavish TakaraTomy is with their UW toy decos.

Yeah, the only figure that I can think of that has those colors of white brown and orange would be armada hoist; but who would cyclonus be in those colors? That botcon pirate guy?

Hellscream9999 wrote:but who would cyclonus be in those colors? That botcon pirate guy?

I thought of that, and it's a very out-there idea, but it's all I got.

With the torso being G1 Galvatron's gray toy colors, that would make the Cyclonus modes of the toy also be gray, right? That wouldn't make sense for Cyclonus, but would make sense for Megatron. Now, you might be thinking "But Megatron didn't turn into Cyclonus's jet mode." He did once. In this:



As obscure and unlikely as it is (as I don't think anyone would expect this short to be even remotely on Takara's radar), it's all I got to make sense out of a gray Cyclonus jet mode becoming a gray Galvatron combiner torso.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:but who would cyclonus be in those colors? That botcon pirate guy?

I thought of that, and it's a very out-there idea, but it's all I got.

With the torso being G1 Galvatron's gray toy colors, that would make the Cyclonus modes of the toy also be gray, right? That wouldn't make sense for Cyclonus, but would make sense for Megatron. Now, you might be thinking "But Megatron didn't turn into Cyclonus's jet mode." He did once. In this:



As obscure and unlikely as it is (as I don't think anyone would expect this short to be even remotely on Takara's radar), it's all I got to make sense out of a gray Cyclonus jet mode becoming a gray Galvatron combiner torso.

I think it more likely that they went into this project wanting a galvatron torso in toy colors - the combined mode and theme of the limbs seems to be the main point of the combiner, so cyclonus will suffer the side effects.

But there's no reason that they couldn't cross the grey with the off-white of energon megs and compromise with the torso being energon megs... I wonder if any of the heads are being changed? If so, then there might be more new parts for cylonus too

As far as who the Rook-alike (pun intended and relished) might be, I've got a couple guesses, unlikely as they are: Universe (2003) Sunstorm's Minicon partner, Inferno, and Universe (2003) (again) Stockade (who was technically a Child of Primus and not a Herald of Unicron, but it was the closest thing I could find).



(I'd put in an image of Stockade to show my theory, but every damn image I could find of him won't show up here for some reason, so here's TFU's entry of the guy)

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:but who would cyclonus be in those colors? That botcon pirate guy?

I thought of that, and it's a very out-there idea, but it's all I got.

With the torso being G1 Galvatron's gray toy colors, that would make the Cyclonus modes of the toy also be gray, right? That wouldn't make sense for Cyclonus, but would make sense for Megatron. Now, you might be thinking "But Megatron didn't turn into Cyclonus's jet mode." He did once. In this:



As obscure and unlikely as it is (as I don't think anyone would expect this short to be even remotely on Takara's radar), it's all I got to make sense out of a gray Cyclonus jet mode becoming a gray Galvatron combiner torso.

Alright, I'll take that theory.

Would they remold Cyclonus's nosecone to resemble the front end of Prime Megatron?


Or maybe they can remold to look like Energon Megatron?



The other thought I had was whether they could paint the top side of the mold purple to preserve Cyclonus in alt mode, with a grey underbelly. But, then Cyclonus would be grey in his chest area in bot mode, right?

That leg that has people stomped reminds me of bludgeon.

Also big qiestion for you guys, if the club (or hasbro proper) did this instead of takars, would there be as much excitement or would it be groan city?

william-james88 wrote:That leg that has people stomped reminds me of bludgeon.

Also big qiestion for you guys, if the club (or hasbro proper) did this instead of takars, would there be as much excitement or would it be groan city?

I would be groaning ONLY for the exorbitant price that would undoubtedly accompany it.

I liked and wanted the tfcc combiner from next year, and I also want tripredacus, I'm just not willing to shell out that kind of cash for what would ostensibly be repaints - sorry, mold fatigue forbids it

If hasbro did it (Undoubtedly with about 1/4 the amount of paint TT seems to be using), I would be all over them

Need me more combiner 's

william-james88 wrote:That leg that has people stomped reminds me of bludgeon.

Also big qiestion for you guys, if the club (or hasbro proper) did this instead of takars, would there be as much excitement or would it be groan city?

I just got MP Starscream, but I would still like combinable versions of the Seekers, so Starscream would be neat, at least.

Mindmaster wrote:(I'd put in an image of Stockade to show my theory, but every damn image I could find of him won't show up here for some reason, so here's TFU's entry of the guy)

Works fine for me:





(if you're using chrome, right click the image and select 'open image in new tab', then right click the newly opened image and select 'copy image url', then paste the url in the reply section, highlight the url, and click the img button and ta-da....)

Also, can't believe it's taken this long to finally get a seeker limb, you would'a thought, with the way hasbro has been milking the seeker image, that seeker limbs would have popped up already

This is a big mystery.

And Will, given that it is cons, there would be groans, but not as bad as more autobot combiners

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:This is a big mystery.

And Will, given that it is cons, there would be groans, but not as bad as more autobot combiners

If hasbro did this, the only groans would be that it wasn't computron or abominus or some bs like that, or that they are more repaints, if they did them separately, I think a lot of people would be happy to get spare limbs that homage ut characters

Hope there's not too much truth to this. I love Demolishor and Cyclonus pre body swap and I'd hate for CW versions of them to be UW exclusives.

Also, surely the Demolishor variant head would be too big for a deluxe?

Shuttershock wrote:Hope there's not too much truth to this. I love Demolishor and Cyclonus pre body swap and I'd hate for CW versions of them to be UW exclusives.

Also, surely the Demolishor variant head would be too big for a deluxe?

If you're talking energon demolisher and cyclonus, there is no helicopter or anyone wearing energon demolishers lime green...

It's not unprecedented for a deluxe head to be used on a voyager. Prime RID Ratchet had a pretooled head for a Gears repaint on his instructions, the exact same head was later used on the War Breakdown mold, as Arms Micron Swerve. It stands to reason it could work the other way around.

My best gusse for the rook-alike would be armada hoist with the bulk,deco and claw thing though why hoist would be inclued is anyones gusse

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Hope there's not too much truth to this. I love Demolishor and Cyclonus pre body swap and I'd hate for CW versions of them to be UW exclusives.

Also, surely the Demolishor variant head would be too big for a deluxe?

If you're talking energon demolisher and cyclonus, there is no helicopter or anyone wearing energon demolishers lime green...

We could only HOPE for the sublime radness of Energon Demolishor and Cyclonus! That was straight out of G2.

That jet isn't Starscream.
It's Thrust:

Shuttershock wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Hope there's not too much truth to this. I love Demolishor and Cyclonus pre body swap and I'd hate for CW versions of them to be UW exclusives.

Also, surely the Demolishor variant head would be too big for a deluxe?

If you're talking energon demolisher and cyclonus, there is no helicopter or anyone wearing energon demolishers lime green...

We could only HOPE for the sublime radness of Energon Demolishor and Cyclonus! That was straight out of G2.

Indeed, it was pretty great

Hellscream9999 wrote:(if you're using chrome, right click the image and select 'open image in new tab', then right click the newly opened image and select 'copy image url', then paste the url in the reply section, highlight the url, and click the img button and ta-da....)

Or you could just ask the staff to help

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:This is a big mystery.

And Will, given that it is cons, there would be groans, but not as bad as more autobot combiners

Riiight, the main groan was that it was always good guys, I forgot. I thought people hated Hasbro doing random combiners rather than doing abominus or computron or any other combiner from the history. But yeah with all the autobots, I get how a decepticon combiner no matter how random would be welcomed.

Shuttershock wrote:Hope there's not too much truth to this. I love Demolishor and Cyclonus pre body swap and I'd hate for CW versions of them to be UW exclusives.

Hasbro confirmed demolisher head isnt happening in a recent interview.

And yes, this is almost certainly a UW exclusive, but its not like we dont have our own. Currently, lots of fans in Japan are complaining that they dont have an offroad, alpha bravo, rook, mtmte cyclonus or white prime with star convoy headsculpt which are all Hasbro exclusive toys. Only fair they have some of their own. And in any case its not like we wont be able to get this. We will, but our costs will depend on whether or not its a ttmall exclusive. Unlike all the previous UW releases, this is the one where a UW exclusive box set will hurt the least since we cant get some of these individually anyways.

What i am most curious about now is the individual headsculpts.

CombaticonsCombine? wrote:That jet isn't Starscream.
It's Thrust:

Well, if you look at the right arm, you will notice that it has white wings, blue arms and feet with a red torso, so, starscream, but the left arm is probably thrust

CombaticonsCombine? wrote:That jet isn't Starscream.
It's Thrust:

come on man, we were all talking about the other arm. It doesnt look like starscream to you?

william-james88 wrote:What i am most curious about now is the individual headsculpts.

Yeah, I wondered earlier what was the point of bringing over the figs if they don't represent the characters they wanted? Because if this is the case, one could say that Ironhide is close enough to Offroad because they share the same mold...

They already lack the colors (and in some cases affiliations) so they may as well change the heads while they're at it. In the end, Japan still won't have the characters they've been asking for, just the molds... (case in point, if they wanted Rook, because they liked his character in the comics, then, they are still sol)