Takara Tomy Transformers War for Cybertron Siege March Releases and Prices

ZeroWolf wrote:Battle Master Pteraxadon - 900 yen
Micromasters Red Heat and Stakeout - 1,800 yen
Deluxe Chromia - 3,500 yen
Deluxe Prowl - 3,500 yen
Voyager Soundwave - 5,500 yen

Maybe I'm doing a quick conversion in my head wrong, but that seems kinda pricey, no?

Well the brand unification is a win for some of us

Wolfman Jake wrote:Carma Sutra

Is there a word for wanting to applaud and boo someone at the same time

carytheone wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Battle Master Pteraxadon - 900 yen
Micromasters Red Heat and Stakeout - 1,800 yen
Deluxe Chromia - 3,500 yen
Deluxe Prowl - 3,500 yen
Voyager Soundwave - 5,500 yen

Maybe I'm doing a quick conversion in my head wrong, but that seems kinda pricey, no?

Wat your seeing is MSRP from Takara not the price retaillers will sell it for in Japan (like Amazon and such).

That price will be more like

Micromasters Red Heat and Stakeout - 1,300 yen
Deluxe Chromia - 2,500 yen
Deluxe Prowl - 2,500 yen
Voyager Soundwave - 3,850 yen

Thats more or less the same as what they will cost here (give or take depending exchange).

william-james88 wrote:Thats more or less the same as what they will cost here (give or take depending exchange).

AH, that makes more sense, since the unification things have cost basically the same in both territories. Thanks.

Do we know yet if Takara will be releasing certain Siege figures before Hasbro, like Chromia will be in an earlier wave in Japan than the US?

By default this may happen, because TT has official release dates, whereas Hasbro just kind of randomly rolls out there stuff *seasonally* but usually little no nothing is mentioned. I thought it was a pretty big deal that PotP Optimal Optimus was released by before , but nobody seemed to care to want to discuss it much.

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Thats more or less the same as what they will cost here (give or take depending exchange).

AH, that makes more sense, since the unification things have cost basically the same in both territories. Thanks.

The retail prices between companies were also the same prices in previous lines. Even with difference decos toys in the TAV line cost the same in Japan as RID toys in the US.

The reason we couldnt do such an easy comparison in the legends line, right before the unification, is because Takara releases in the gen line included different things like extra titan masters and accessories, or targetmasters.

But generally, the same toys cost as much in relative markets. Whether they were the same deco or not.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:I checked several of my local Targets on Sunday evening. No Siege stuff in site. Then, after work today, I stopped by the Target that's a bit out of my way, the one where I found Power of the Primes Leader Optimal Optimus a few weeks ago, and they finally had something from Siege. I got myself the entire first wave of the Micro Masters tonight! Siege is finally starting to trickle into the Twin Cities area of Minnesota.

I would have loved to have found the Deluxes or Voyagers, but this is a start, at least. It could have just as easily been the Battle Masters, which would have been a bit of a bummer, since all I want from the first wave of that size class is Lionizer.

I've found the Battle Masters and Micro Masters in the Chicago area so far. I want the deluxes and above more, but I'm actually glad I found the little fellas first as I had some time to fool around with them and enjoy them before they will likely get overlooked once the deluxes are in hand.

Fun extra bit, the Race Patrol "cars being naughty" gun is reversible. Both of them have a waist swivel so you can have either Roadhandler or Swindler on top.

That sounds bad doesn't it?

I just tried this now and never realized Roadhandler's waist could rotate. Pro tip, unpeg the arms to make things easier, the gun actually works better reversed.

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Thats more or less the same as what they will cost here (give or take depending exchange).

AH, that makes more sense, since the unification things have cost basically the same in both territories. Thanks.

The reason we couldnt do such an easy comparison in the legends line, right before the unification, is because Takara releases in the gen line included different things like extra titan masters and accessories, or targetmasters.

Well that was specifically what I was talking about, when the legend figures came with remolding, different decos and/or extra accessories. I couldn't really remember the prices, apple for apple before then.

My point ultimately is that regardless of the price paid, all territories are getting the same figure. One could make an argument before for paying the "Takara premium (shipping included)" and now that temptation is gone. I don't have to stress over which figure to get and just pick it up at retail.

carytheone wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Carma Sutra

Is there a word for wanting to applaud and boo someone at the same time

I think Mr. Conan O'Brien invented this many years ago: "yay-boo!"

Sorry, jumping into this thread really late. When I've looked for the DPCI for Siege, I'm seeing individual DPCIs for each figure. Do we know if those work at Target, or is there a blanket one for each size class. Looking for the Deluxe DPCI.

Has anyone seen that new listing thing for Greenlight, Sideswipe, Slamdance, Skywarp? And do we have any reason to believe that these might be real?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Has anyone seen that new listing thing for Greenlight, Sideswipe, Slamdance, Skywarp? And do we have any reason to believe that these might be real?

We have not, please send us a link to we can see what you are talking about.

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Has anyone seen that new listing thing for Greenlight, Sideswipe, Slamdance, Skywarp? And do we have any reason to believe that these might be real?

We have not, please send us a link to we can see what you are talking about.

Not sure how credible it is, cause I can't find the original source, but here's the link to a tweet with it: https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/1068499686351355905. Like I said, not sure of it's actual credibility, but I figured it might be worth mentioning in the thread

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Has anyone seen that new listing thing for Greenlight, Sideswipe, Slamdance, Skywarp? And do we have any reason to believe that these might be real?

We have not, please send us a link to we can see what you are talking about.

Not sure how credible it is, cause I can't find the original source, but here's the link to a tweet with it: https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/1068499686351355905. Like I said, not sure of it's actual credibility, but I figured it might be worth mentioning in the thread

Original source with every listing - http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5965348997

Skywrap.
Trademark retemtion, or has the typo fairy struck again?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Skywrap.
Trademark retemtion, or has the typo fairy struck again?

Just a typo

Just a head's up for everyone: Greenlight, the Firestormers and Skywarp are exclusives most likely since they're listed separate from the already known items, and two of the three are "off-size". With that, I'm confident Slamdance is a retool of Skytread/Flywheels, with them sharing vehicle modes.

I wonder, it's hascon next year isn't it?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Skywrap.
Trademark retemtion, or has the typo fairy struck again?

Just a typo

Just a head's up for everyone: Greenlight, the Firestormers and Skywarp are exclusives most likely since they're listed separate from the already known items, and two of the three are "off-size". With that, I'm confident Slamdance is a retool of Skytread/Flywheels, with them sharing vehicle modes.

Personally, I'm kinda hoping that Slamdance goes a similar route to Battletrap, where Raindance and Grand Slam have their individual modes, the combined mode, but instead of individual robot modes, they also get a cassette mode that's compatible with Blaster from TR. Or, at least semi-compatible

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Skywrap.
Trademark retemtion, or has the typo fairy struck again?

Just a typo

Just a head's up for everyone: Greenlight, the Firestormers and Skywarp are exclusives most likely since they're listed separate from the already known items, and two of the three are "off-size". With that, I'm confident Slamdance is a retool of Skytread/Flywheels, with them sharing vehicle modes.

Personally, I'm kinda hoping that Slamdance goes a similar route to Battletrap, where Raindance and Grand Slam have their individual modes, the combined mode, but instead of individual robot modes, they also get a cassette mode that's compatible with Blaster from TR. Or, at least semi-compatible

Slamdance with probably just be a redeco (if not a head retool) of Battletrap.

My Slamdance theory is different: rather than two Deluxes, the box set could include multiple classes, a scaled-down version of the online retailer exclusive TR sets from last year. That could mean a Deluxe, a pair of micromaster/cassettes, and a Battle Master (which could just be Aimless, though that would be disappointing.) The price point is a little high for that kind of lineup, however.

If we're going to speculate, we should have choices. A simple Skytread redeco is probably the more plausible theory, though.

Turns out the individual DPCIs work. They were just putting out a case when I asked about them. Picked up Flywheels. He's great.

I was hoping Greenlight would show up in the "Generations Select" series later on down the line, as another limb option for Elita Infin1te. If she's in War for Cybertron, she's most likely a straight up repaint of Chromia with a new head and no combiner functionality. Boo!

I'm quite interested in the second listing, though. It looks like a 3-Pack at least. I'm guessing Sideswipe will be in his G2 color scheme. Slamdance is most likely a Flywheels/Skytread retool/repaint. The only problem with that is that the jet part of Slamdance should be the "pants" and the tank part the "shirt." That's the opposite of Flywheels' combination scheme. Then there is a third item, starting with "Ai." What could that be? Does the Chinese text to the right give us a better idea? Can anyone translate?

Skywarp is not a surprise, considering we're getting Starscream and Thundercracker in WfC, but what does "Battle Pack" mean? What extra goodies will he come with?

Translating the text gives the names of: sideswipe and slamdance. The third item only roughly translates to either battlemaster or targetmaster.

In other news, that Leader Optimus Prime? Turns out it's Studio Series!!!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:In other news, that Leader Optimus Prime? Turns out it's Studio Series!!!

...um, the English on that chart seems to state there are 2 Leader Primes: a SS DotM Leader Prime, and the previously discussed Siege Leader Optimus.

The fact that that 3-pack is specifically called out as a FIRESTORMER pack, combined with the presence of Greenlight, is unusual though. Do we think those are actually Selects figures with combiner capacity intact for at least Greenlight and Sideswipe? Also, given the retail G1 Sideswipe, is that Sideswipe going to be G2 colored?

Slamdance sounds interesting/exciting, I was hoping they'd use the Duocon engineering to make those cassette combiners.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:In other news, that Leader Optimus Prime? Turns out it's Studio Series!!!

...um, the English on that chart seems to state there are 2 Leader Primes: a SS DotM Leader Prime, and the previously discussed Siege Leader Optimus.

Woops.

And Greenlight being a combiner? I'm... torn. Chromia and Moonracer/Novastar technically only share engineering plus a few minor parts, it could go either way.

I'm kinda intrigued by the Skywarp listing. For the other to we have an idea of what we're getting, but for Skywarp it's listed as a "battle pack" so he comes with more stuff, but what? I'm thinking Micro Master repaints, but who knows?

Emerje

Has anyone tested Gasket and Grommet's viability as Titan Master taxis?

Seige showed up at my target today, got hound, cog and skytread; they're all great, hound and skytread both have a really satisfying transformation. haven't messed with cogs weaponizing ability yet, he's pretty fun in bot mode. It's great that, beyond a ton of paint apps (painted rims, finally ) all the figures seem to have at least two accessories, and panels to cover most of the hollow bits, seems this is one price bump that was deserved

Those new Siege rumors are pretty interesting. Skywarp was always my favorite of the original 3 seekers, so he'd be a must buy. And the Chromia mold seems like an improvement over Moonracer (who I already liked to begin with), so Greenlight would be a buy as well.

Just pimped out my hound with cog's limbs and lionizer...


Weaponizers are the best line-wide gimmick

Bought Skytread this morning (only deluxe left at my Target) and his right hip was glued and can't move, so he can't even fully transform. It's really too bad, he has a fun, intricate transformation and I really wanted to put him with my other Scavengers, but oh well. I checked another Target later and was lucky enough to find Sideswipe and Cog left! I'm going to return poor Skytread after work and open up the other two. I'm a little disappointed the deluxe I want most is the only one I haven't seen yet but Hound will show up eventually. Now I just need to keep my eyes open for Prime and Megs.

I'm really starting to doubt how useful Brickseek really is. A few weeks ago, I tried all of the Wave one DPCI codes for the Target stores in my area. Every store listed each one as "Out of Stock." Doing the same now, nothing shows up at all. There are no stores listed. It only tells me "No results found in the searched area." The product information comes up, complete with stock photo, but it doesn't even say "Out of Stock" at any Targets in my area. It just acts like it doesn't exist. I also know this can't be right, because I got the Micro Masters from one of my local Targets earlier this week. That store should be popping up with at least an "Out of Stock" notification if they already sold through. Does anyone have the regular assortment numbers yet? I wonder if those will work better than the individual DPCI's.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Does anyone have the regular assortment numbers yet? I wonder if those will work better than the individual DPCI's.

They've been news'ed

And they don't

087-16-3981 weaponizer
087-16-3983 micromasters
087-16-3985 deluxe
087-16-6608 voyager
087-16-3984 leader

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Does anyone have the regular assortment numbers yet? I wonder if those will work better than the individual DPCI's.

They've been news'ed

And they don't

087-16-3981 weaponizer
087-16-3983 micromasters
087-16-3985 deluxe
087-16-6608 voyager
087-16-3984 leader

Those never come up in a google search.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Does anyone have the regular assortment numbers yet? I wonder if those will work better than the individual DPCI's.

They've been news'ed

And they don't

087-16-3981 weaponizer
087-16-3983 micromasters
087-16-3985 deluxe
087-16-6608 voyager
087-16-3984 leader

Then what good is Brickseek? Or is Target's inventory system just THAT messed up?

Also, thanks for the DPCI's, Hellscream9999. I tried those and, you're right, the assortment codes don't give any better results than the individual codes.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Those never come up in a google search.

I can attest to such as well. All that comes up in a Google search is the individual product DPCI's, no matter what Transformers website you try.

^I think it is. I remember during Titans Return the entire line had the same DCPI at Target, so if a single TR figure was in stock they ALL got listed as in stock

I think they’re on to brickseek. It doesn’t work for Star Wars Black Series anymore either. Popfindr.com still seems to work, but you need the TCIN number and the only way I know how to get that is from Target.com.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I think they’re on to brickseek. It doesn’t work for Star Wars Black Series anymore either. Popfindr.com still seems to work, but you need the TCIN number and the only way I know how to get that is from Target.com.

That sucks if true. What's the real harm in Brickseek for Target? I guess they're worried that they won't get collectors to search all their stores and buy a stupid throw pillow instead if they don't find the figure they're looking for?

I tried Target.com, but they don't have the Siege figures listed yet. Though, doing a search for "Transformers Siege" brought up a whole host of things I'd never guess you could order through Target.com. Takara Transformers Legends figures! They've got a bunch of them! Of course, they're online only, but still. Is Target partnering with an importer now or something?

EDIT: It turns out they're partnering with TFSource!

Its just selling space on their online site for other venders, like Walmart does.

william-james88 wrote:Its just selling space on their online site for other venders, like Walmart does.

I didn't know that was a thing now. Yay capitalism?

I love this series. The gimmick doesn’t affect every figure that doesn’t need it (looking at you, PotP Combiner gimmick). The ones it does affect are a lot of fun and have a ton of ways to use it and the ones that aren’t are just well engineered fun. Cog is a little funky and has a couple loose joints because of all his limbs separating but finding new ways to weaponize him is a lot of fun. Sideswipe is just fantastic, I missed regular, non-combining deluxes so much. He’s sleeker and I want to say almost better engineered than the Masterpiece, I have literally zero issues with him. Can’t wait to get Megatron, Optimus, Hound and another Skytread that works properly.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Its just selling space on their online site for other venders, like Walmart does.

I didn't know that was a thing now. Yay capitalism?

It worked for Amazon, so other retailers since have gone, why not?

San Diego, CA (Target Mira Mesa)



Murrieta, CA (Murrieta North Super Target)

I just found Cog and bought him. Love the bot mode and the individual weapon modes, but the official vehicle mode is bad, the whole silver front end floats off the ground because it's dragging undercarriage.

I want a better vehicle mode. Aaaaaaaaand go.

Finally! I've struck gold! The FOURTH Target I checked on my way home tonight had Siege Deluxes and Battle Masters! It was a different Target than the one where I found the Micro Masters earlier this week. Now, I just need to find the Voyagers (and the Leaders, but those don't seem to be in circulation at all yet).

Initially, I didn't see them on the shelf, because they were NOT with the normal Transformers section. They were in one of those weird short endcap things close by. They also had a bunch of that Studio Series Bumblebee 2-Pack. I might have to go back tomorrow and check a few stores again just in case they also have special endcaps for Siege. The Micro Masters I found in a different Target earlier this week were in the proper Transformers section, though. To all others who have found Siege figures so far in Target stores, where were they located? In the normal Transformers spot or in a different spot?

^Rysquad obviously found them in the regular spot

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I just found Cog and bought him. Love the bot mode and the individual weapon modes, but the official vehicle mode is bad, the whole silver front end floats off the ground because it's dragging undercarriage.

I want a better vehicle mode. Aaaaaaaaand go.

What if you detach Gasket (the 6-wheel car) from Grommet (the half-track)?

Siege Leader Class Shockwave and Ultra Magnus are up for preorder on BBTS, estimated for December. They're individualy listed for $54.99 or as a case of one of each for $99.99. I ordered Shockwave myself, I like my Combiner Wars IDW style Magnus just fine.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I just found Cog and bought him. Love the bot mode and the individual weapon modes, but the official vehicle mode is bad, the whole silver front end floats off the ground because it's dragging undercarriage.

I want a better vehicle mode. Aaaaaaaaand go.

What if you detach Gasket (the 6-wheel car) from Grommet (the half-track)?

Well, turns out I had them connected wrong, basically just laying down robot. Form the 2 separate vehicles and then use the small tab on Grommet to attach to Whosits. I usually don't read the instructions for TFs, to give my aging brain a little workout; occasionally is not so good.

Thanks for the input!

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I just found Cog and bought him. Love the bot mode and the individual weapon modes, but the official vehicle mode is bad, the whole silver front end floats off the ground because it's dragging undercarriage.

I want a better vehicle mode. Aaaaaaaaand go.

What if you detach Gasket (the 6-wheel car) from Grommet (the half-track)?

Well, turns out I had them connected wrong, basically just laying down robot. Form the 2 separate vehicles and then use the small tab on Grommet to attach to Whosits. I usually don't read the instructions for TFs, to give my aging brain a little workout; occasionally is not so good.

Thanks for the input!

You're welcome!

Would you mind testing how well Titan Masters can sit on the individual vehicles?