Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-25 Orion Pax vs. Megatron

I like Orion Pax robot and car mode,,about time we get this figure,,, as for Megatron,,, he looks bad ass.

Only thing I don't like is Prime's err Pax's head hatch.

Pretty anachronistic figure pairing.

Ravage XK wrote:Only thing I don't like is Prime's err Pax's head hatch.

But it look like him:

Its not blue!!

Ravage XK wrote:Its not blue!!

Looks blue (w/ a silver face) to me.

The toy, that is.

The comic book head looks dumb. It's basically Prime with a mouth. They should have made it G1 anime style. I hope a 3rd party company can fix this. With a head fix, I would be interested in a metallic Orion. Megatron, not so much.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ravage XK wrote:Its not blue!!

Looks blue (w/ a silver face) to me.

The toy, that is.

The head flap, behind his head. Its red, nothing a little paint wont fix and hardly a major issue.

Rated X wrote:The comic book head looks dumb. It's basically Prime with a mouth. They should have made it G1 anime style.

1. G1's cartoon was not an anime.
2. This is not Cartoon Orion Pax. Get over it.

Ravage XK wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ravage XK wrote:Its not blue!!

Looks blue (w/ a silver face) to me.

The toy, that is.

The head flap, behind his head. Its red, nothing a little paint wont fix and hardly a major issue.

Same with the Hasbro version.

Holy metallic paint, Batman!

Both are done beautifully. I really want that Megatron... no wait, I want Dreadwing more than I want Megatron. Dammit.

I have zero problems with Orion Pax. The shininess is strong with him.

Neat!

I just bought the new Legends Optimus. I would love to get this Megatron to pair these Don Figueroa/IDW redesign figures.

Mindmaster wrote:Holy metallic paint, Batman!

Both are done beautifully. I really want that Megatron... no wait, I want Dreadwing more than I want Megatron. Dammit.

I have zero problems with Orion Pax. The shininess is strong with him.

Hehe, the shininess is calling me too . I was going to skip these molds initially, however these pics have convinced me that it won't be that easy. I'll likely give in to Takara's paint powers and put in preorders after all (once they become available that is).

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:The comic book head looks dumb. It's basically Prime with a mouth. They should have made it G1 anime style.

1. G1's cartoon was not an anime.
2. This is not Cartoon Orion Pax. Get over it.

So the G1 cartoon is not American made anime style ? That’s news to me. People generally consider The Headmasters, Supergod Masterforce, and Victory anime. I would think the similar style of drawing puts the American versions in the anime class as well. Theyre all the same drawing style, same characters. I guess if the humans don’t look like elves with huge hairdos, some people wont consider it true anime. Just my opinion.

Optimus with a mouth just flat out sucks. He sucked in Animated. He sucked in Bayverse. A G1 head would be an improvement. That’s all Im saying. Calling in the good Dr. Wu for a head transplant…

Rated X wrote:So the G1 cartoon is not American made anime style ? That’s news to me. I guess if the humans don’t look like elves with huge hairdos, some people wont consider it true anime. Just my opinion.

Officially, anime cartoons are cartoons created by Japan, for Japan first and foremost, with international markets taking second priority.

The G1 cartoon was made for America by American companies Marvel and Sunbow, who only outsourced the animation to studios in Asia, namely Toei in Japan and AKOM in Korea.

Lots of non-anime American cartoons have their animation outsourced to overseas studios. The Simpsons, Batman: The Animated Series, Animaniacs, Muppet Babies, and even Transformers: Prime, to name a few. But none of these cartoons are anime due to their West origins and intended audiences.

Even shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender and Teen Titans aren't anime, despite of their animation being heavily and obviously influenced by anime art styles, due to them being American creations.

Rated X wrote:Optimus with a mouth just flat out sucks.

Good thing this is "pre-Optimus", then.

Rated X wrote:He sucked in Animated.

Opinion, not fact.

Rated X wrote:He sucked in Bayverse.

Opinion, not fact.

Rated X wrote:A G1 head would be an improvement. That’s all Im saying Call in the good Dr. Wu for a head transplant…

And again, opinion, not fact.

Also, behind the scenes, G1 cartoon Optimus did have a mouth:



We just never saw it because there was another cel for his faceplate placed over it for his speaking animations.

Sabrblade, one picture is worth a thousand words...

Rated X wrote:Sabrblade, one picture is worth a thousand words...

That just made my day....thanks Sabrblade!

Rated X wrote:Sabrblade, one picture is worth a thousand words...

I see nothing wrong with that image.

All I see is a happy example of the heart and soul of the 1980s Generation 1 depicted in a joyful, picturesque display.

Anyone who doesn't think the Generation 1 era was as cheesy and charming as seen in this artwork is fooling themselves.

Nemesis Destron wrote: That just made my day....thanks Sabrblade!

That was X, not me.

You comic book fans trip me out lol. In my OPINION, IDW ruined Orion Pax. In G1 he used to be way more cool. A totally different character than Optimus. He even had a chick.



All IDW did was turn him into baby Optimus Prime. Kind of like Hot Rod before he became Rodimus.

Rated X wrote:You comic book fans trip me out lol. In my OPINION, IDW ruined Orion Pax. In G1 he used to be way more cool. A totally different character than Optimus. He even had a chick.

Sadly, in the cartoon he only existed for a single episode, so beyond him being a trusting, naïve simpleton, we didn't really get to learn much at all about him.

I didn't read the comics either, but the cartoon sure did leave some terrible gaps and it's very unfortunate (particularly given how many of us, myself included) how many of us base our 'personal canon' on the cartoon since so much of what our canon consists of were nothing more than one-off episodes and singular events that somehow define the universe where the Transformers live in our heads.

I don't think I fight the change from G1 quite as much as you though, and I embrace newer continuities a bit more easily (although I also criticize them quite a bit too, but usually because they are trying to be G1, not because they're different from it).

Still, I would like to see a toy of the G1 cartoon Orion Pax.

Also, that pic of the "smiling Optimus" you posted, X, that's not from a comic book.

That's from a 1980s children's storybook.

A little-known one at that, that barely anyone in the fandom outside of only the most diehard of fans (without using TFWiki) would know anything about, much less would have even read it.

Thanks to e-Hobby we have some nice clear high res images of Takara Tomy's Transformers Generations TG-25 Orion Pax vs. Megatron set. The set features the Deluxe Orion Pax and Stealth Bomber Megatron molds based on recent IDW Publishing comic appearances. These Takara Tomy versions have the line's signature metallic paint, check out the all the shiny goodness below.

both looking damn good

Megatron is a thing of beauty.

Gonna have to see how the Hasbro version stacks up now...

Very tempted to get Orion Pax, though the hollow legs look pretty bad. And since these are Takara pictures, it's unlikely they were mis-transformed.

Now Im interested. I love the chrome. Still need a G1 Orion head though. Calling Dr Wu !!!

With some slightly changes in the back. Orion Pax mold could do a decente Skids...

Rated X wrote:Now Im interested. I love the chrome.

No chrome here, just really shiny silver paint.

Sexy, but not worth the money to me.

Lookin' good!

Also, I don't really mind the hollow legs. After all, those feet have to go somewhere.

Hmm... I wonder if the japanese versions come with japanese comics.

Dammit. I actually want to read the english comics... But... That shine...

Henry921 wrote:Megatron is a thing of beauty.

Gonna have to see how the Hasbro version stacks up now...

i will regreat this preorder takra version there more comic accuate in colors exdcept for megatron gun being red hasbro versions http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-generations-deluxe-idw-spotlight-figures-official-images/27289/

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Very tempted to get Orion Pax, though the hollow legs look pretty bad. And since these are Takara pictures, it's unlikely they were mis-transformed.

On the other hand, hollow legs means possibly more options for 3rd party armor addons

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Now Im interested. I love the chrome.

No chrome here, just really shiny silver paint.

Actually I meant metallic. I tend to refer to metallic as "chrome" sometimes. I know it's not correct technically, but theyre both mirror shiny just one has color and the other doesnt.

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote: That just made my day....thanks Sabrblade!

That was X, not me.

Thanks for checking me...good one X.


I think they are both keepers but I wish the engineers would have done something different with Orion's placed behind his wind shield.

gavinfuzzy wrote:Hmm... I wonder if the japanese versions come with japanese comics.

Nope. No comics for Takara's versions.

These are fantastic! Both figures are much more vibrant than their American counterparts, which is pretty snazzy when it's done with a black figure.

The price point is a little high, but expected. I'm just not sure if I want to shell out that much for deluxes I might not end up caring about.

The colours on Megatron really make him pop. The black nose, the purple highlights, the silver and the red on his weapon. He looks amazing. He looks imposing. Shame that he's not.

I think I actually prefer the clear window of the Hasbro version of Orion, but the better paint applications and the fact he's coming with that awesome Megatron mean I'll probably take this one over Hasbro's anyway.

Nice work Takara.

We get more in-hand images of the Orion Pax half of the Takara TG-25 Orion Pax vs. Megatron set courtesy of Lost of HKTF. He is also shown compared to the Hasbro version of Orion Pax. The main differences here are the metallic paint that Takara is fond of as well as a blue tented windshield. This set is due out this month.

Wish it were Ryan's shots. I can't seem to tell the difference, until you mentioned the blue windshield. It seems to have neutered the Autobot sigil on his chest.

Interesting. They're showing how you can store the ax on the back. I think it's slotted between the two tires.

Blue windshield takes away from the Autobot logo, which is never a good thing. Also, I'm not a fan of the brighter blue and orange plastics used. Makes him look too vibrant. Even Pax needs to balance his colors, and Hasbro's version does that quite nicely.

Also, in b4 Takara fanboys, aside from lighter shades and metallic red and the windshield, there are NO VISIBLE DIFFERENCES in paint apps.

I really like the orange of the Takara axe, though I don't have a problem with my Hasbro version's color.

I know the axe is traditionally orange, but I actually prefer the red of Hasbro's version. Also, as others have said, the blue tinted windshield really takes away from the Autobot symbol and chest detailing. On the bright side at least the Takara one does have paint apps and doesn't just come with stickers and a lot of Arms Micron holes all over it

KnightStrike wrote:On the bright side at least the Takara one does have paint apps and doesn't just come with stickers and a lot of Arms Micron holes all over it

This is the Generations line, not the Prime line. Takara's Generations line never had stickers (barring Metroplex) or Arms Microns.

So glad I'm getting the takara 2 pack, the Hasbro version just does not make it for me...

MagnetarPrime wrote:So glad I'm getting the takara 2 pack, the Hasbro version just does not make it for me...

Ditto...Orion Pax looks very epic compared to Hasbro's!

I really enjoy Hasbro's version, but I absolutely LOVE this one.

Did someone say Takara 2-pack? Where!?

megatronus wrote:Did someone say Takara 2-pack? Where!?

The TakaraTomy versions of Orion Pax and Deluxe Megatron are sold together.

Sabrblade wrote:

KnightStrike wrote:On the bright side at least the Takara one does have paint apps and doesn't just come with stickers and a lot of Arms Micron holes all over it

This is the Generations line, not the Prime line. Takara's Generations line never had stickers (barring Metroplex) or Arms Microns.

Aye, sorry, that was just an attempt at humor on my part. After just stickering up Generations Metroplex and a couple Joe vehicles in one day recently I can firmly say that if I don't see another decal sheet for a loooooong time it will be fine by me

Well I've certainly changed my tune from the last time we got news on these guys.

I liked this version's blue windscreen and the proper silver on his crotch, abdomen and arm flaps. But that shade of blue is kind of weak. Not like how it looked in the previous official images. (I know. I should've known better. ) And like others have said, that Autobot logo suffers because of it. I also can't get behind the all-over shiny paint. It's a little too blingy for a records clerk/enforcer of the law.

Then there's the biggest drawback to this figure, which is ironically that it comes with one of the tiniest Megatrons ever. It's a good design sure, but I couldn't be happy having such a small Decepticon tyrant in my collection, not unless he was to function as some kind of boomerang Targetmaster for one of the larger figures.

Pre-order cancelled. I'm sticking with Hasbro's Orion Pax for the time being.

Having previously brought us our first in-hand images of Takara Tomy's Transformers Generations Orion Pax last week, HK-TF user Lost now brings us images of the other figure in the TG-25 two-pack, Megatronus. The figure features the line's signature metallic paint and some addition detailing. Check him out below, the series of images also includes comparisons with this Hasbro counterpart.