Takara Tomy Transformers Generations Selects Turtler and Gulf Available for Pre-Order in U.S.

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm disappointed that they are selling this set separately. I'd rather they just did the whole thing in one shot.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm disappointed that they are selling this set separately. I'd rather they just did the whole thing in one shot.

Any particular reason? Wouldn't it be better separate to help ease the cost, plus you get very good figures in hand to play with while waiting for the King himself.

mordhelm wrote:Is the submit news broken? I had submitted the pulse links via the front page news 1 to 2hrs before Nemesis made his post. Normally I get a response but didn't get any indication from the news crew this time.

I ask not to get credit (ultimately his post got the word out so he deserves the credit), but only because we are told to submit it that way. Just want to make sure I am submitting in the right way.

Emerje wrote:They do have smaller production runs thanks to their exclusivity

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:They do have smaller production runs thanks to their exclusivity

Do you have production numbers to back that claim up? Because unless the word "limited" is made explicit (which I didnt see here), I wouldn't assume anything. These products use the same economies of scale as non exclusives. I mean, we can still find wreck gar at walgreens today even though he's last year's exclusive and the unite warriors boxsets prices on the secondary market in Japan are not correlated with their TTMALL exclusivity status. So unless we know the figures, I wouldnt take anything as fact just because something is exclusive to one particular retailer.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:They do have smaller production runs thanks to their exclusivity

Do you have production numbers to back that claim up? Because unless the word "limited" is made explicit (which I didnt see here), I wouldn't assume anything. These products use the same economies of scale as non exclusives. I mean, we can still find wreck gar at walgreens today even though he's last year's exclusive and the unite warriors boxsets prices on the secondary market in Japan are not correlated with their TTMALL exclusivity status. So unless we know the figures, I wouldnt take anything as fact just because something is exclusive to one particular retailer.

Having an item be available in a single chain vs. 5 chains should naturally result in less product produced, IF the stores were stocked equally and IF the amount of stores is 1:1. Online venues are a whole different beast by cutting out the more limited store space, so I wouldn't try making guesses at numbers there.

steals_your_goats wrote:I pre-ordered mine through TFsource. It seems like everyone sleeps on them in favor of pulse or bbts. With those other sites they charge tax so for me TFsource is already cheaper than the other two plus they have free shipping and the point system.

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I pre-ordered mine through TFsource. It seems like everyone sleeps on them in favor of pulse or bbts. With those other sites they charge tax so for me TFsource is already cheaper than the other two plus they have free shipping and the point system.

I am surprised they dont charge tax, I thought the states had new laws that had online retailers charge taxes regardless, hence why BBTS does that now. The one which wont charge you tax is ages3and up since they are located in canada.

o.supreme wrote:With TF Source you have to have a minimum of $150 for free shipping, which I rarely if ever do, which is why, even with taxes, usually BBTS is the way to go, for me personally.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:They do have smaller production runs thanks to their exclusivity

Do you have production numbers to back that claim up? Because unless the word "limited" is made explicit (which I didnt see here), I wouldn't assume anything. These products use the same economies of scale as non exclusives. I mean, we can still find wreck gar at walgreens today even though he's last year's exclusive and the unite warriors boxsets prices on the secondary market in Japan are not correlated with their TTMALL exclusivity status. So unless we know the figures, I wouldnt take anything as fact just because something is exclusive to one particular retailer.

Having an item be available in a single chain vs. 5 chains should naturally result in less product produced, IF the stores were stocked equally and IF the amount of stores is 1:1. Online venues are a whole different beast by cutting out the more limited store space, so I wouldn't try making guesses at numbers there.

Right and those are indeed big IFs. Plus, that retail distribution applies more to cases, not the individual toys inside the case. So, since exclusives are packed in solid cases, you could end up with more wreck gars in the states than Novastars, which seems to be the case from reported sightings and difficulty to find particular toys. It's become to the point that exclusives are actually more easy to find since you are bound to find them at that particular exclusive retailer instead of hoping a retailer doesnt skip a wave or an item is shortpacked.

Emerje wrote:Look at Legends Grand Maximus, we know for a fact that there's less than 3,000 of those in the world and they're still readily available, sometimes at a discount.

steals_your_goats wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I pre-ordered mine through TFsource. It seems like everyone sleeps on them in favor of pulse or bbts. With those other sites they charge tax so for me TFsource is already cheaper than the other two plus they have free shipping and the point system.

I am surprised they dont charge tax, I thought the states had new laws that had online retailers charge taxes regardless, hence why BBTS does that now. The one which wont charge you tax is ages3and up since they are located in canada.

I've been ordering from them for years and I've never once been charged tax. Recently I paid for the 3 refraktors I had on pre-order and once again no tax, which is great seeing as I live in New York. Even with their sightly higher prices it makes them either cheaper than other outlets or the same price due to NY taxes.

Emerje wrote:You're right, I can't know for sure that the Seacons are limited, but it would be unusual for an exclusive not to be. We can't always look at post release availability as proof of normal release numbers. Look at Legends Grand Maximus, we know for a fact that there's less than 3,000 of those in the world and they're still readily available, sometimes at a discount.

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

Fans can take their Transformers figure collections to the next level with Generations Selects, a fan-dedicated line of figures featuring fan-favorite, special edition characters you can’t find in the main line.

This special edition Generations Selects WFC-GS06 Smokescreen figure portrays the classic G1 character with a G1-accurate head sculpt. Figure converts to a Cybertronian alt mode in 14 steps, deco’d to reveal how Smokescreen would have looked on Cybertron. The deco incorporates Cybertronian numbers into his classic exterior.

With this Smokescreen figure, fans can add to their Praxus-native collection. Smokescreen joins Barricade and Prowl (each sold separately, subject to availability) as the third Praxian character designed in his native Cybertronian form.

The Smokescreen figure comes equipped with a W-45 Acid Pellet Blaster accessory and 2 W-50 Volt-Beam Cannon accessories that can mount on his shoulders or the hood of his vehicle mode.

Classic G1 character

G1-accurate head sculpt
Reveals Smokescreen Cybertronian alt mode
Alt mode deco incorporates Cybertronian numbers into his classic exterior
Accessories: blaster, 2 shoulder cannons that can mount on the hood of the car
Third Praxian character to add to Praxus-native collection (Barricade and Prowl sold separately, subject to availability).

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

Sabrblade wrote:

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

Hasbro is in the business of making money. They will not stop until they have sucked all our bank accounts dry!

Wolfman Jake wrote:They might need to know how many to "order" from Takara Tomy to make sure there are enough produced to meet demand by their release in late January 2020.

Zeedust wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

Hasbro is in the business of making money. They will not stop until they have sucked all our bank accounts dry!

How would they lose money by giving us more time to buy the same things?

Vic Zanzibar wrote:Just pre-ordered Gulf and Turtler. Given how far away the shipping date is, I wonder how long it's gonna take to release all of them? Will it be a four-ish month wait from when those go up for pre-order as well?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think this makes a pretty good Target exclusive team;

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:You're right, I can't know for sure that the Seacons are limited, but it would be unusual for an exclusive not to be. We can't always look at post release availability as proof of normal release numbers. Look at Legends Grand Maximus, we know for a fact that there's less than 3,000 of those in the world and they're still readily available, sometimes at a discount.

Thats another assumption and far from a fact. The only thing we are sure of is that TTMall got less than 3000 orders, and thats it. We dont know if the ones sold outside japan through different distributors (Hasbro asia, usually), count into that, which is why he does seem so plentiful outside of japan. Hence why i was only referring to the japanese market in my example of combiners. Once again, when it comes to numbers, nothing can be assumed.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:...Anyone know why BBTS hasn't put the Turtler and Gulf up for order yet? I've been waiting for them to do it since that's where I usually order most things, but I'm getting a bit worried I might miss them if they for some reason never end up putting them up for preorder.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:...Anyone know why BBTS hasn't put the Turtler and Gulf up for order yet? I've been waiting for them to do it since that's where I usually order most things, but I'm getting a bit worried I might miss them if they for some reason never end up putting them up for preorder.

Z3ROhour wrote:So.....
I know some find the subject taboo
But...
I am wondering if I should
A) buy the Selects versions ASAP
B) buy the beautiful TFC Toys version
C) wait and buy the inevitable 4th party oversized version.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I apologize if this doesn't belong in this topic, but given Mastermind Creations recent reveals of their prototype for their take on Armada Prime, when do you all expect to see more on the initial prototype Takara showed off at one of the cons?

I'm hoping we see more soon, mostly because I've always loved Armada Prime's design and Takara's looks to be the best yet. Especially if they create a new Jetfire and Overload.