Takara Tomy MP-19 Smokescreen Revealed

Colorful and looks somewhat like a NASCAR stock car. Might just have to get it.

Nice, more paint and more plastic. Most likely I'm a go with Smokescreen over Prowl cause he just looks like a more costly figure. But im not going to make my decession now. I have to contemplate some more.

Yes! I wasn't too sure about how Smokescreen would come out, his colour scheme has potential to look really gaudy and he was never my fave looking of the 3 in the 'toon (though I still really like his G1 toy, and still wish I had one) He doesn't look gaudy at all, he looks...classic...

Does he have a new or re-tooled head? Can't tell from the image. But technically he should have if he wants to be cartoon accurate. Not that I mind either way

hinomars19 wrote:Does he have a new or re-tooled head? Can't tell from the image. But technically he should have if he wants to be cartoon accurate. Not that I mind either way

Looks different to me.

This is perfect IMO, nice job Takara!

I just noticed that the wheels are on the top of the shoulders and not behind the shoulders. I hope that doesn't mess up the figures articulation. And also since they placed the wheels on him like that it make his arm bicepe tricepe area look skinny and kind of funny looking. He has no arm robotic muscles.

I'm not going to be the one to say he is suffering a little from (s.l.s) skinny limb syndrome.

rpetras wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:Does he have a new or re-tooled head? Can't tell from the image. But technically he should have if he wants to be cartoon accurate. Not that I mind either way

Looks different to me.

This is perfect IMO, nice job Takara!

I'm leaning towards thinking it is, and would really be surprised if it wasn't. The new fender and the wording on the car make him look really lovely. He could easily speed straight through an episode of Dukes of Hazard (the original show )

For convenient comparison:

Finally! Definitely getting this one out of the three. Can't wait!

Not sure why, but I like this mold much more as Smokescreen than Prowl.

Pre-order dropped at BBTS!

















because I found cheaper preorders else where!!!
can't wait to get this guy!

I glad the got the shoulder canons right. That feature really sets the mold apart for me.

As a rule I don't collect the same mold twice. But these three are looking so great I may just have to go ahead and break that rule. I've got a reissue G1 Prowl, legends Bluestreak and no Smokescreen. I've only got Ghost Starscream as my masterpiece seeker but I may need to build up my Decepticon MP army anyway if they keep releasing these fantastic molds and redecos.

I've been dragging my feet on Masterpieces waiting for deals and paying for it with my soul. Not often but sometimes I hold out too long. Not the case with Fort Max(who, in his own right, is a masterpiece but not part of the MP line) but I still need Sideswipe (and a new Sunstreaker). Happy to see Soundwave coming around again and just waiting for MP Jazz, MP Wheeljack, MP... the rest of the first season G1 cast. Don't make me list them all.

now if amazon japan will just get their pre-order up now !

Those shoulder launchers look supremely dorky, but it's show-accurate. I like it! The car mode is especially nice. Out of the three he might be the one that gets to stay in vehicle mode.

I really like the direction that the MP line has been going. I really dragged my feet in protest in the beginning with the re-launch of MP10 Prime. But I am glad they did. I have not been disappointed since MP10.

I like how they even retooled Smokescreen's gun. A lot of thought went into the details.

December????!!!!!

Damn!

We will be waiting on MP-20 for almost a year then?????

I knew the wait was worth it. Couldn't bring myself to buy the other two knowing that Smokescreen would look so much better.......and i was right.

Mine

I'd be interested if he were a generic deluxe from Hasbro, but I'm not paying that kind of money for completion's sake. Just owning MP Prowl's good enough for me.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'd be interested if he were a generic deluxe from Hasbro, but I'm not paying that kind of money for completion's sake. Just owning MP Prowl's good enough for me.

He's too big to be a Deluxe. He's more of a short Voyager.

I'm happy and hype that I just placed a preorder for this guy at hlj for only 52 $. I really hope that it works out.

Eagleblaster wrote:I'm happy and hype that I just placed a preorder for this guy at hlj for only 52 $. I really hope that it works out.

Likewise!

Sabrblade wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'd be interested if he were a generic deluxe from Hasbro, but I'm not paying that kind of money for completion's sake. Just owning MP Prowl's good enough for me.

He's too big to be a Deluxe. He's more of a short Voyager.

Actually, I prefer a bit of size difference for characters who share similar alt modes and designs, to further differentiate them from the original. I decided to use Classics Red Alert to go with MP Sideswipe, so they won't looks like the same toy simply repainted in different colors.

Personally, I think the size difference between deluxes and MP cars isn't so obvious that they can't be displayed side-by-side.

I just can't wait to see what Takara has to reveal this weekend at the Tokyo Toy Show. I think that they said that all three of the Nissans would be on display, plus something new.

Thanks to site sponsor Kapow! Toys we have a look at the third use of the MP-17 mold, in the guise of MP-19 Smokescreen. The images, mirrored below for those of you without Facebook access, show the figure by itself and next to other MP figures for comparison, including MP-10, 17 and 18.

Man, they're not messing around when it comes to cartoon accuracy! The head may be a little too accurate but overall, this a great looking remold/repaint of the mold. Keeping my preorder for sure.

Man this guy is mean!
Yes, please and thank you!

I'd long forgotten how Smokescreen looked like in the G1 cartoons, and now that I've got a good look at the Masterpiece toy, I don't think I like his design at all. The shoulder cannons are dinky, and his head looks weird.

I absolutely love his alt mode, though.

Wow, that looks really great. But I'm still sticking to Prowl, I'm not going to get sucked into buying multiple repaints like I did with their Seekers mold.

A few days ago I posted that I wasn't buying multiples of the same mold. I am now a liar. Prowl and Smokescreen will now both be mine.

Yes! This looks great. And my MP-10 will finally have some Autobot cars.

ZOMG!!! getting 2. and they're both already paid for!

Man this is becoming a hard choice whether to get Smokescreen or Prowl. Leaning towards Smoke cause I already got a cop car being Human Alliance Baricade. I have no Smokescreen at all but this Mp-19 robot mode looks kind of funny and that front air duct thing in car mode takes away from the overall realness of the Nissan vehicle.

He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

Ok, here is the scoop. Smokescreen and Prowl both look good. They look like to different toys in car mode. I could just picture displaying mp Lambo, mp Prowl and mp Smokescreen in car modes side by side to each other in that order* Awesome *. Smokescreen's robot mode is lacking a little but as a transformers fan or collector you Have to Have that vintage race car cause its truely one of a kind and might even stay one of a kind forever.

Congrads to Takara for making me have to make this decision to avoid any toy stress, lol. So its official. This will be the first time I'm buying two figures from the same mold. Mp Smokescreen and mp Prowl...

Only the best of the best over here.

when will amazon japan get their pre-order up !!! the wait is killing me LOL

Man, I don't know how some of you guys can just get one of these, they look incredible together.

Not getting prowl because you have barricade is probably the strangest reason I've ever heard.

I don't quite understand the "I'm only going to buy one of this mold" mentality. G1 was built on repaints.

Anyways. Smokescreen looks perfect, I love the head. Each head give each character it's own personality, it's fantastic.

I think he's wonderful! He may be my favorite of the three!

Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I believe "horrible" is a little strong of a word. Your exaggerating.

MGrotusque wrote:

Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I believe "horrible" is a little strong of a word. Your exaggerating.

It's X, what'd ya expect?

Anyway, this is why Smokescreen's that tall with Prime:




Second-to-bottom row, third character from the left is Smokescreen.



If anything, the MP toy is even taller than how Smokescreen's official scale in the cartoon was, since the cartoon model's head and guns came up to Prime's waist, while the toy's head and guns go above Prime's waist.

...well crap, I think I need to get Smokescreen now. Time to update that preorder.

TimothyR wrote:Man, I don't know how some of you guys can just get one of these, they look incredible together.

Not getting prowl because you have barricade is probably the strangest reason I've ever heard.

I don't quite understand the "I'm only going to buy one of this mold" mentality. G1 was built on repaints.

Anyways. Smokescreen looks perfect, I love the head. Each head give each character it's own personality, it's fantastic.

I can understand financial reasons, but beyond that, I agree with you. I think all these figures look great together, and different enough from each other that the fact that they share a base mold isn't overwhelmingly obvious. I will be buying every pre-movie MP that they release, especially if it's Reflector. I have my vintage collection, but this is the only new Transformers line that I collect(though I do have a few TFP figures). Masterpiece is actually the line that got me back into collecting Transformers, and now after so many years of waiting, it's finally becoming the line that I was hoping it would be way back then.

Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I hear what you are saying Rated X, it does seem that way, but the designers did say that they were trying very hard to make both the robot and alt modes in scale with the cartoons.

At first, I did not like the results. But now, I have gotten used it and appreciate the size difference more and more. Let's face it, Prime's a truck, his bot mode should tower over his fellow Autobots who transform into cars. I like the fact that Prime is much bigger than Sideswipe.

I have been getting into the IDW comics, so maybe my perspective has gotten skewed, but I think Cyberpath's comparison below is spot on.

Cyberpath wrote:

Yeah!

I'm trying to limit myself to MTMTE pilot characters, this is going to be tough.

He looks so cartoon accurate in robot mode!

They all look great, very G1 accurate and different enough to be worth picking up.

Rather than being slavish to “chosen” pictures from google, lets pull out the camera and see what we find…









Sure Optimus was portrayed as being huge a lot. But there were plenty of times the vehicle scale was ignored and the Autobots were given a more human like scale instead of midgets and giants.

The Decepticons always seemed to be more or less around the same height. And when they fought the Autobot cars head on in robot mode, the seekers and Soundwave were usually just a little taller. And isn’t Prime supposed to be the same height as Megatron ?



For all of you who think Hasbro’s MP scale based on car sizes is perfect, don’t ever expect to see MP Mini-bots. In real life a VW Beetle isn’t that much bigger than a Porsche or a Datsun. And would a truck like Huffer the same size as a VW Beetle even be possible? I think not. The MP scale isn’t so great. Classics scales are a lot more fun to display in groups. MP Scale looks better alone on a coffee table for your all time favorite character. And that’s my opinion, I’m not trying to push it as a fact.

Rated X wrote:For all of you who think Hasbro’s MP scale based on car sizes is perfect, don’t ever expect to see MP Mini-bots. In real life a VW Beetle isn’t that much bigger than a Porsche or a Datsun. And would a truck like Huffer the same size as a VW Beetle even be possible? I think not.

You make an interesting point. Furthermore, the G1 cartoon's scale-accuracy to real life vehicles were also hampered by the fact that toys from which the cartoon was based on, came from different toylines that had nothing to do with each other.

IIRC, the Microman line was supposed to consist of robots that transformed into 1:1 scale objects like guns and micro-cassette players, and had its own unique storyline.

Huffer, Bee, Brawn, Gears, Windcharger and Cliffjumper were from the Choro-Q line of super-deformed cars. These weren't even meant to scale in with each other.

In short, they used the sizes of the toys in relation to each other as reference points for the cartoon...toys from completely different lines back when they were released as Takara products.

Son of Carl wrote:

TimothyR wrote:Man, I don't know how some of you guys can just get one of these, they look incredible together.

Not getting prowl because you have barricade is probably the strangest reason I've ever heard.

I don't quite understand the "I'm only going to buy one of this mold" mentality. G1 was built on repaints.

Anyways. Smokescreen looks perfect, I love the head. Each head give each character it's own personality, it's fantastic.

I can understand financial reasons, but beyond that, I agree with you. I think all these figures look great together, and different enough from each other that the fact that they share a base mold isn't overwhelmingly obvious. I will be buying every pre-movie MP that they release, especially if it's Reflector. I have my vintage collection, but this is the only new Transformers line that I collect(though I do have a few TFP figures). Masterpiece is actually the line that got me back into collecting Transformers, and now after so many years of waiting, it's finally becoming the line that I was hoping it would be way back then.

I totally forgot to mention that I understand financial reasons. My bad.

I collect other lines.. But the masterpiece line is my absolute favorite.. Ever since MP10, takara has really been doing an incredible job. I enjoy all of the MP releases, but lately, they've all been perfect.

I hope that someday I'll be able to own all of the G1 characters in masterpiece form. (At least the ones that were on the show)

That Smokescreen is looking worse and worse. I admit that I'm a flip flopper. One day or moment I might say a figure is great then the next minute I might say its bad. I'm only getting Mp-17. Mp-19 looks like it belongs with the alternators line where most of them robot modes where chunky and blocky. Those extra parts on Smokes take away his superhero V shape and some other stuff I mentioned in previous post about him.

Mp Prowl is the best of the trio cause he just looks and seems like the better Hero toy. I'm saving my money for realistic transformers from now on mainly pertaining to movie figures. The only figures that got on my collection this year was: Mp-17, Beast Hunters voyager Predaking, legion tp Smokescreen and Dotm HA Skids.