Super7 Transformers Ultimates Wave 4 Revealed

I appreciate the toy-accurate heads.

while I absolutely love super 7 various ultimates lines, I'm not really a fan of these. I dig the action masters ones, but the g1 toon ones feel like their proportions are all out of whack. I know the sunbow toon had wildly differing proportions and scales from episode to episode, but still these just don't look right to me. Like the heads are too big, and the bodies too baloon-y. one less thing I have to spend my money on though so that's a plus.

I do have to agree that this isn't as "Wow" as the other waves, but I am not surprised they decided to do a bit of padding by giving us two expected redecos and that popular radio guy. I'd imagine people very much wanted a normal colour Starscream. I am a bit disappointed that neither Starscream nor Soundwave come with Action Master goodies, though.

They got me on the 3 3/4" ones but these I just had to pass on. I can't believe I'm saying this but RED does these better.

I'm torn about these Super7 Ultimates. They look nice. The packaging is way more premium than I want. They're about an inch or two too large. The accessories are nice. These worked really well for Action Masters Bombshell and Banzai-Tron, especially since they included their Action Master partners and even put the Action Masters logo on the back of the box (which I think is the first time that logo has been used officially in 30+ years). I'm less excited about Ultimates items such as Starscream with derpy face. I can't help but think that sales for the first wave didn't do well, so they course corrected to included more mainstream characters (plus troop builders) and are steering clear of deep-cuts like Action Master Bombshell.

Optimus is a rip off. Compare what you get from regular Prime to dead Prime for the same price all because the dead one's chest opens.




It's Optimus, he could come with his entire deathbed and still make money.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Optimus is a rip off. Compare what you get from regular Prime to dead Prime for the same price all because the dead one's chest opens.




It's Optimus, he could come with his entire deathbed and still make money.

Emerje

I wouldn't say it's a ripoff. They remolded the head and the torso. Who wants a surfboard and basketball with Dead Op? Maybe a tombstone with RIP OP, but I'm good with the molded head and torso.

Seibertron wrote:

Emerje wrote:Optimus is a rip off. Compare what you get from regular Prime to dead Prime for the same price all because the dead one's chest opens.




It's Optimus, he could come with his entire deathbed and still make money.

Emerje

I wouldn't say it's a ripoff. They remolded the head and the torso. Who wants a surfboard and basketball with Dead Op? Maybe a tombstone with RIP OP, but I'm good with the molded head and torso.

It's not like he comes with two torsos, they just swapped one for another that just happens to have two extra parts on his chest. And no, obviously a surfboard would be silly, but maybe a cardboard and plastic deathbed or a crying Daniel figure, options are out there.

Emerje

I got my first few of these in a couple days ago and they stink. Literally. It's like Burn's LG Whirl from years back, they smell awful.

Cutting my preorders down on these to just Grimlock, Tarn, Bludgeon and maybe Gator Prime. Neat toys, but not spectacular and the materials feel cheap as hell.

ScottyP wrote:I got my first few of these in a couple days ago and they stink. Literally. It's like Burn's LG Whirl from years back, they smell awful.

Cutting my preorders down on these to just Grimlock, Tarn, Bludgeon and maybe Gator Prime. Neat toys, but not spectacular and the materials feel cheap as hell.

Those are the exact ones I ordered along with Banzai-Tron, I just want Pretenders, Action Masters, and the guys that have never been officially released before (plus a cartoon accurate Grimlock). I'd buy Optimus Prime if ToyHax comes out with an Action Master sticker set with modified guns from the Titans Return set. And if they made AM sticker sets for the other figures like Megatron, Soundwave, and Tracks then maybe I could be convinced to pick up Bombshell. I like the idea of AM redos, it's the type of thing we should be seeing in RED, especially after they've given us random things like an overly copper Cheetor and battle scuffed Bumblebee.

Emerje

Shame the new wave is all standard G1 stuff. I liked the weird toss ins that we got so far, even if I wasn't going to buy many of these.

Hope they improve some of the materials before Tarn if scotty's review is anything to go by

BBTS sent me a delay notice for Tarn, looks like wave 3 is coming next Spring

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:BBTS sent me a delay notice for Tarn, looks like wave 3 is coming next Spring

Could have sworn they were already pushed back to Q4 2022 for wave 2 and Q1 2023 for wave 3 but I can't find any emails about it so maybe all the delays over the last couple years are running together...

Emerje

For whatever reason, these have completely passed me by until recently. I don't understand why these and RED co-exist? Two lines of non-transforming Transformers??? To me, it's just this...

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:For whatever reason, these have completely passed me by until recently. I don't understand why these and RED co-exist? Two lines of non-transforming Transformers??? To me, it's just this...

Mainly because super7 are giving hasbro money to do these and are different sizes then standard RED I believe, like IDW Tarn, the prime crocodile etc.
While RED is a walmart exclusive, so they give hasbro money. In hasbro's eyes, who cares as long as they get money.

It's weird to think the bottom of the [creative] barrel line of the original run has been revived two-fold, 30+ years later.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's weird to think the bottom of the [creative] barrel line of the original run has been revived two-fold, 30+ years later.

More weird to think that it's been lucrative enough to do several waves

ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's weird to think the bottom of the [creative] barrel line of the original run has been revived two-fold, 30+ years later.

More weird to think that it's been lucrative enough to do several waves

That part is mind blowing. I'm sure if they are still with us, those involved in the original Action Master line appreciate the irony.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's weird to think the bottom of the [creative] barrel line of the original run has been revived two-fold, 30+ years later.

More weird to think that it's been lucrative enough to do several waves

That part is mind blowing. I'm sure if they are still with us, those involved in the original Action Master line appreciate the irony.

I was interested until I saw that these have LESS articulation than most of the RED figures. I was down to have something that's the same size as the Classified line.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's weird to think the bottom of the [creative] barrel line of the original run has been revived two-fold, 30+ years later.

More weird to think that it's been lucrative enough to do several waves

That part is mind blowing. I'm sure if they are still with us, those involved in the original Action Master line appreciate the irony.

I was interested until I saw that these have LESS articulation than most of the RED figures. I was down to have something that's the same size as the Classified line.

On the other hand, the RED are very cheap looking.

Regardless, it's like comparing apple and oranges. Sure, both are fruits, both are round, yet they are completely different. RED are action figures while S7 are more like "posable" statues.

I got my Banzaitron last night from BBTS, and he's interesting. I actually like him more than I thought I would given other reactions to the figures. He did have a smell to him when I opened him, but that dissipated pretty quickly.

He's pretty neat. I like how he feels in hand, he has some weight to him and feels like he was well put together. Posing is decent but limited in range, but that is probably my main complaint and it isn't even that terrible, though notable in the improvement it could use.

The alternate hands are fun, and can help him be more expressive and make up some for the limited articulation range. I also like his sword and Razorsharp is pretty neat too, though I really wish he had at least had a joint to flip the gun out. Razorsharp probably only needed 3 or 5 moving parts total to be an excellent little update, but as is he is a simple accessory that is a solid piece, but is painted nice and can still combine with the gun.

So yeah, overall, Banzaitron is neat. He was one of maybe 3 revealed so far that I was interested in, and it is enough to convince me that Tarn will be worth getting, and it will make me consider Bludgeon some more too.

That's pretty damn boss!

Too bad they are so expensive for me, factoring shipping, exchange rates, taxes, and whatnot.

Hey D-max, you will get Tarn evrn though ge is getting a toy in Legacy?

william-james88 wrote:Hey D-max, you will get Tarn evrn though ge is getting a toy in Legacy?

I plan to yes. Mainly because he comes with Nickel and I don't see her coming in her own release. But also because I think these are OK, and I would like a Tarn for the Cyberverse shelf, and the Super& one not transforming works for that as well. I think I'm going to sell my MMC one, use the Super7 for the Cyberverse, and the generations one on the main con shelf.

He is looking good

Man, they've delayed Ultimates Wave 2 and 3 AGAIN! Wave 2 was originally planned for summer '22, then fall '22 and now February '23 while Wave 2 went from fall '22 to winter '23 to July '23. These two waves were first announced in February '21! I honestly wonder if these will ever actually see release.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Man, they've delayed Ultimates Wave 2 and 3 AGAIN! Wave 2 was originally planned for summer '22, then fall '22 and now February '23 while Wave 2 went from fall '22 to winter '23 to July '23. These two waves were first announced in February '21! I honestly wonder if these will ever actually see release.

Emerje

This is normal for Super 7, just wait for wave 4 to ship before wave 2.

I'd love to directly buy Bludgeon, not entering an eternal preorder limbo.

Yep, Tarn delayed to July 2023. Good thing we are getting Legacy Tarn, the delay only truly affects me adding a Nickel to the Scavengers