Studio Series Leader Class Dark of the Moon Megatron and Revenge of the Fallen Jetfire Revealed

yeah if they're just setting up then maybe they'll fix up Megatron later and have him holding his rifle properly.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:yeah if they're just setting up then maybe they'll fix up Megatron later and have him holding his rifle properly.

We can only hope also I wonder if they'll be putting a transformed jetfire down as there's a big space there that looks like it could be room for another toy...

ZeroWolf wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:yeah if they're just setting up then maybe they'll fix up Megatron later and have him holding his rifle properly.

We can only hope also I wonder if they'll be putting a transformed jetfire down as there's a big space there that looks like it could be room for another toy...

Ah yeah I didn't even think of that. The original RotF Jetfire toy had a massive jet mode and curious to see how this one turns out (please let it hide more of the robot stuffs) and the robot form we see here looks oddly quite clean and accurate so where is the jet? Maybe he doesn't combine with Prime this time and this results in a more concentrated and accurate jetfire overall? Who knows? (well..the toy designers probably)
Also that Megatron truck mode looks pretty darn huge too (and man I love all that spiky stuff at the front). :O

Looking again at the picture, I see that Jetfire look quite nice. I'll buy him only if he properly combine with Optimus though.

As for that Megatron, I really hope he's misstransformed. Because he feel really like a "2007" leader with all that blockyness.

There go my pant...




pockets because the money is following out of them.


(Not sure about the cloak material, but overall this gives even more credence to the listing leaks.)

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:yeah if they're just setting up then maybe they'll fix up Megatron later and have him holding his rifle properly.

We can only hope also I wonder if they'll be putting a transformed jetfire down as there's a big space there that looks like it could be room for another toy...

Ah yeah I didn't even think of that. The original RotF Jetfire toy had a massive jet mode and curious to see how this one turns out (please let it hide more of the robot stuffs) and the robot form we see here looks oddly quite clean and accurate so where is the jet? Maybe he doesn't combine with Prime this time and this results in a more concentrated and accurate jetfire overall? Who knows? (well..the toy designers probably)
Also that Megatron truck mode looks pretty darn huge too (and man I love all that spiky stuff at the front). :O

A new Jetfire is pretty exciting. I really like the original, despite its flaws. My desire for him is actually the opposite of what i want from the Constructicons. I really don’t want them to combine, because I don’t want the individual bots to suffer for it. I do, however, want Jetfire to combine with the new OP coming out. It could be done a lot better this time around. Plus none of these SS leaders have those electronic components that took up so much space, and really hampered the transformation. Without that gimmick, the end result is bound to be much better, without diminishing either individual figure.

It’s a little hard to see Jetfire properly, but hopefully we’ll get some clear, well lit shots of him later. That Megatron, though...

I’m glad to see that it’s DotM Megs, and that he has an actual cloth cape this time around, but I’m a little let down when it comes to that bot mode. I’ll hold off on forming any concrete opinion of him, until we get some clear photos, but those legs are ENORMOUS! I’m hoping he’s mistransformed, because his entire lower legs are just huge rectangles. I also have this thing against big folding panels on the outside of transformers forearms. That’s probably just my own pet peeve. Then there’s the blocky shoulders. I feel like I’m coming down hard in this figure, especially since we only have the one image so far.

I’m hoping like hell that I’m way off on that Megatron figure.

Is that Igor?!

I hope Jetfire does combine with Optimus but only if they use parts forming. part of the problem they had with the old mold is that it was trying to use one thing. In the film Powered up prime was, effectively, optimus with parts of Jetfire grafted on if they have him go to bits and be attached like that, even if they don't incorporate all of Jetfire (it makes more sense like that I think, I doubt they needed the whole corpse for the upgrade) then I'll be happy.

Looking at the poses of the figures, I think Megs needs a nice pose to show what he's capable of, and given the figures we've had do far, I think the proper pictures will impress. I agree with you on the costructicons kanra

Damn, that Megatron's gonna be big. I hope he doesn't scale too awkwardly with Optimus (unless we're getting another, bigger Optimus later). He does look pretty awesome though.

And Jetfire looks incredible. I'll reserve judgement until I see the jet mode though.

Agent 53 wrote:I hope Jetfire does combine with Optimus but only if they use parts forming. part of the problem they had with the old mold is that it was trying to use one thing. In the film Powered up prime was, effectively, optimus with parts of Jetfire grafted on if they have him go to bits and be attached like that, even if they don't incorporate all of Jetfire (it makes more sense like that I think, I doubt they needed the whole corpse for the upgrade) then I'll be happy.

Yeah. That's what I was gonna say when I got home just now. I'd rather the Jetfire figure have parts that come off to attach to Prime (whether it's the current mold or a new one) rather than trying to stick an entire leader class figure onto him. Studio Prime is one of my absolute fave figures for posing and articulation and I'd want a jetpowered Prime to still be very posable too which is really difficult to do when trying to mesh two figures together like the old RotF Leader combo.

It's amusing that some folk want combining constructions and other people want to forsake that in favour of higher quality individual bots and some folk want a combining Jetfire and some want a more focussed singular figure or at least not use the whole thing for Prime's jetpower kit. Hasbro are stuck here cos they really can't please everyone.

Also yeah I like that there's no electronics in Studio series. The old Jetfire figure had a very blocky body and this new one looks much more slender and one likely reason is not having to contain all the light and sound stuff inside. If I want a figure to 'talk' I'm fine just having sound samples on my phone and play those when playing about with my figures.

By the way was the camaro Bee mold always intended to have the Rebekah's Garage clip on bits for car mode? Cos it does have the rectangular holes on it I always wondered what they were for. Like Hasbro planned that kit from the start?

CommunistPrime wrote:Is that Igor?!

Yeah that's what I pondered on the last page when I posted the original pic. If so then it's a nice extra.

*delete please*

Black Hat wrote:Damn, that Megatron's gonna be big. I hope he doesn't scale too awkwardly with Optimus (unless we're getting another, bigger Optimus later). He does look pretty awesome though.

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. He looks like he’ll be way bigger than our current SS Prime, but if that’s an excuse for a slightly bigger DOTM Optimus I am totally on board!

I don’t think I can say anything until we see the renders and close-ups, but Jetfire’s head looks huge and kinda. . . Unsettling. I’m really excited to see his SR-71 mode though.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Damn, that Megatron's gonna be big. I hope he doesn't scale too awkwardly with Optimus (unless we're getting another, bigger Optimus later). He does look pretty awesome though.

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. He looks like he’ll be way bigger than our current SS Prime, but if that’s an excuse for a slightly bigger DOTM Optimus I am totally on board!

I don’t think I can say anything until we see the renders and close-ups, but Jetfire’s head looks huge and kinda. . . Unsettling. I’m really excited to see his SR-71 mode though.

Well megatron is bigger than Optimus in the movies. I don’t mind that he’s bugger I’ve only been getting Decepticons from Studio Series but I understand if people are getting everyone or most.

He is quite blocky which threw me off not complaining until we see a full reveal of him but it does remind me of how well done the original dark of the moon was. One of the few original movie figures I still have because I love him so much.

Randomhero wrote:He is quite blocky which threw me off not complaining until we see a full reveal of him but it does remind me of how well done the original dark of the moon was. One of the few original movie figures I still have because I love him so much.

It's mainly his lower legs I'm worried about. They look like they should be able to compact some more and maybe the shoulders could hide those wheels. DotM Megs is his blockiest version in the movies anyways. That badass truck mode has already got me wanting the figure even if the robot isn't great. Hopefully we can see a pic without the cloth tarp so we can get a clearer look at the figure itself.

These definitely don't look completely transformed so I'm going to save my full judgement till we see official renders and toy owner pics.

The sculpting however looks pretty nice especially on Jetfire.

To quote TFWiki: "And all the other toys were thrown away."



Gold monkey fighting diamond. I didn't want to buy new ones. Now I want to buy new ones. I liked this scale myself, now it all changes.



And Jetfire?! Dang IT!!

How does that Megatron look soo much more stiff and awkward than the Voyager version?

DecepticonFinishline wrote:How does that Megatron look soo much more stiff and awkward than the Voyager version?

Because it's mistransformed and not properly posed?

I'm excited for this.Can't wait to see more pics.Jetfire having the cane and the axe seeems a bit much.I would assume one would transform in the other.

ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks to fellow Seibertron users, Terrsolpix and Carnivius_Prime, we've got a special picture to share from Hasbro's MCM Convention booth in London, UK! The picture shows new Leader Class toys of Dark of the Moon Megatron and Revenge of the Fallen Jetfire!



Of special note is that this time round, Megatron's cowl is actually a piece of fabric and not moulded plastic as before. Jetfire also includes his Axe from when he joins the battle in Egypt.

While we'll no doubt have better pictures from the actual event, feast your eyes on these reveals for now and let us know in the Energon Pub what your thoughts are. Stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

Color me impressed. I was sure the teased leader SS figure was going to be Tank Megs from RotF. Never expected a DotM version, and one that looks this good. Hopefully the feet are mistransformed because they are blocky as heck.

As to Jetfire, while I love the SR-71 Blackbird alt mode, I never really liked the original, too much robot parts undercarriage for me and skipped on it then. I might consider this one, if it hides the robot better in Jet mode.

This Megatron will probably be the only Studio I purchase.

Overcracker wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks to fellow Seibertron users, Terrsolpix and Carnivius_Prime, we've got a special picture to share from Hasbro's MCM Convention booth in London, UK! The picture shows new Leader Class toys of Dark of the Moon Megatron and Revenge of the Fallen Jetfire!



Of special note is that this time round, Megatron's cowl is actually a piece of fabric and not moulded plastic as before. Jetfire also includes his Axe from when he joins the battle in Egypt.

While we'll no doubt have better pictures from the actual event, feast your eyes on these reveals for now and let us know in the Energon Pub what your thoughts are. Stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

Color me impressed. I was sure the teased leader SS figure was going to be Tank Megs from RotF. Never expected a DotM version, and one that looks this good. Hopefully the feet are mistransformed because they are blocky as heck.

As to Jetfire, while I love the SR-71 Blackbird alt mode, I never really liked the original, too much robot parts undercarriage for me and skipped on it then. I might consider this one, if it hides the robot better in Jet mode.

We already got tank megs as a Voyager which fits the size chart better. Why would they make a leader version?

From Paris Comic-Con:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks to fellow Seibertron users, Terrsolpix and Carnivius_Prime, we've got a special picture to share from Hasbro's MCM Convention booth in London, UK! The picture shows new Leader Class toys of Dark of the Moon Megatron and Revenge of the Fallen Jetfire!



Of special note is that this time round, Megatron's cowl is actually a piece of fabric and not moulded plastic as before. Jetfire also includes his Axe from when he joins the battle in Egypt.

While we'll no doubt have better pictures from the actual event, feast your eyes on these reveals for now and let us know in the Energon Pub what your thoughts are. Stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

Color me impressed. I was sure the teased leader SS figure was going to be Tank Megs from RotF. Never expected a DotM version, and one that looks this good. Hopefully the feet are mistransformed because they are blocky as heck.

As to Jetfire, while I love the SR-71 Blackbird alt mode, I never really liked the original, too much robot parts undercarriage for me and skipped on it then. I might consider this one, if it hides the robot better in Jet mode.

We already got tank megs as a Voyager which fits the size chart better. Why would they make a leader version?

Because why would a Truck the size of Prime have to be a leader class toy? There's no reason to make a truck be leader sized, when your other leader sized items are a Helicopter and a Dinosaur.

At the very least the 2007 Movie Jet may have made more sense.

Still looks very nice. But was not expecting it.

I'm not sure I follow, as as Prime is a Voyager.

@munkky those images aren't appearing for me

Overcracker wrote:Because why would a Truck the size of Prime have to be a leader class toy?

Because DOTM Megs isn't just a truck the size of prime, it is a truck and trailer which would take up at least twice the volume when the trucks were in scale with each other.

Edit: I'd love to see some side by side shots of Prime and Megs in truck modes for comparison.

Wish we got more info on DOTM Megatron at the panel, but that remolded SS Optimus looks SO much better than the first one! I'm glad I waited. Unless a DOTM remold is announced before this one comes out, it'll be my main movie Prime.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Because why would a Truck the size of Prime have to be a leader class toy?

Because DOTM Megs isn't just a truck the size of prime, it is a truck and trailer which would take up at least twice the volume when the trucks were in scale with each other.

Edit: I'd love to see some side by side shots of Prime and Megs in truck modes for comparison.

They are different types of trucks.

Prime is a Peterbilt cab, while Megatron is old timey Mack Cab.

In reality, a Peterbilt Cab is about .75% the length of a Mack Cab + Tanker.

Basically what you are saying is a Truck that is normally 25 feet long should be larger than a Cybertronian Tank, and a Helicopter (Blackout) that in real life is 88ft long.

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Because why would a Truck the size of Prime have to be a leader class toy?

Because DOTM Megs isn't just a truck the size of prime, it is a truck and trailer which would take up at least twice the volume when the trucks were in scale with each other.

Edit: I'd love to see some side by side shots of Prime and Megs in truck modes for comparison.

They are different types of trucks.

Prime is a Peterbilt cab, while Megatron is old timey Mack Cab.

In reality, a Peterbilt Cab is about .75% the length of a Mack Cab + Tanker.

Basically what you are saying is a Truck that is normally 25 feet long should be larger than a Cybertronian Tank, and a Helicopter (Blackout) that in real life is 88ft long.

Also it should be pointed out that the real things in scale (or at least what they are trying to stick to) is robot mode.

Paris Comic-Con 2018 is being held right now and Hasbro is there revealing some exciting new toys for the Studio Series line. The revealed toys belong to Wave 1 of the 2019 Studio Series line and inclue voyager Bonecrusher, voyager Revenge of the Fallen Optimus Prime and leader Jetfire. We can see that pieces from Jetfire can combine with Optimus Prime, turning him into "Jetwing" Prime. The person that was there on sight, TFW2005 member transform75, reports that this ROTF Optimus Prime (SS-32) is a remold of the SS-05 Optimus Prime figure we got earlier this year. It is currently unsure if Jetfire can only combine with this new Optimus due to said retooling or if he can attach to the previously released Prime as well.

Been a while since I've seen revenge of the Fallen, but did jet prime really have the two halves of the blackbird cockpit on his shoulders?

Overcracker wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks to fellow Seibertron users, Terrsolpix and Carnivius_Prime


mistransformed because they are blocky as heck.

We already got tank megs as a Voyager which fits the size chart better. Why would they make a leader version?

Because why would a Truck the size of Prime have to be a leader class toy? There's no reason to make a truck be leader sized, when your other leader sized items are a Helicopter and a Dinosaur.

Is that only word fans know when looking at new toy pictures is MISTRANSFORMED can’t go into one new topic without someone saying mistransformed probably first word pops in there head before commenting on what they think about toy them self it’s no crime toys are on display to show people what they can expect to buy in stores.,

Is mechanic go to car show talk about new car they can buy in yeah how car have three seats not four car itself is for display only to look at not to sit in not chance.,

Transformer toys where never in scale in with another look generation one Optimus prime standing next to generation one metroplex out of scale.

Megaton looks good on both modes

ZeroWolf wrote:Been a while since I've seen revenge of the Fallen, but did jet prime really have the two halves of the blackbird cockpit on his shoulders?

Yep!


I've heard that the original SS Prime can't combine with Jetfire (which seems to be supported by the extra tabs on Prime's forearms), which is weird. You'd think the main selling point of ROTF Prime (other than the swords) now that we have a much better looking version would be combining with Jetfire.

Don't know if ROTF Prime being unable to combine is confirmed or not, though.

Dragons - No, it’s not the only word fans know. It’s just being used appropriately. There isn’t anything wrong with pointing something out.
The fandom has come to expect a certain level of progression from these lines. And for a toy line that specifically strives for screen accuracy and scale (within reason), when something doesn’t look right, it really, really stands out. And this new Megs really stands out. His blockiness is just bizarre when compared to every other figure in this line. So unless this new figure is some clunky aberration, then I’d lay odds that he is mistransformed. Add to that that the majority of the times we see these new reveals at shows, some of the figures are actually mistransformed. It happens. It’s certainly not the end of the world, but it is worth mentioning. Less someone sees a figure that looks bad, because it isn’t transformed correctly, and forms a negative opinion of that figure as a result.


On the positive side; I’m very pleased to see that this Jetfire and Prime combine. I’m looking forward to seeing some close up shots, or renders of their combined mode. That Bonecrusher looks like everything I was hoping he’d be. I can’t overstate how reassuring that is. I’m pretty pumped to see the rest of the Constructicons now.

Bucky wrote:Dragons - No, it’s not the only word fans know. It’s just being used appropriately. There isn’t anything wrong with pointing something out.
The fandom has come to expect a certain level of progression from these lines. And for a toy line that specifically strives for screen accuracy and scale (within reason), when something doesn’t look right, it really, really stands out. And this new Megs really stands out. His blockiness is just bizarre when compared to every other figure in this line. So unless this new figure is some clunky aberration, then I’d lay odds that he is mistransformed. Add to that that the majority of the times we see these new reveals at shows, some of the figures are actually mistransformed. It happens. It’s certainly not the end of the world, but it is worth mentioning. Less someone sees a figure that looks bad, because it isn’t transformed correctly, and forms a negative opinion of that figure as a result.


On the positive side; I’m very pleased to see that this Jetfire and Prime combine. I’m looking forward to seeing some close up shots, or renders of their combined mode. That Bonecrusher looks like everything I was hoping he’d be. I can’t overstate how reassuring that is. I’m pretty pumped to see the rest of the Constructicons now.

Well said Bucky.

@EvasionmodeBumblebee thanks for the refresh! I stand connected. Also it is odd that the prime that he's supposed to combine with (rotf) he can't but the one he's supposed to combine with is actually based off his appearance in the 07 movie...

I think the reason Jetpower Prime works is that they are in scale with each other.Last time in RoTF Optimus AND Jetfire were leader classes.Now only Jetfire is a leader class and Optimus is voyager.

The more I look at this new SS Prime the more mold differences I'm finding. Thought I'd list them here:

- New SS Prime has tabs on his forearms, probably for Jetfire combination

- Obvious chest remolding

- Fuel tanks appear to be remolded

- Back piece / truck top on old SS Prime (where the swords can plug into in robot mode) is new, doesn't have the ports for the swords and can instead split into different pieces for more robot-mode accuracy.

- Lower pieces on the truck mode grill for new SS Prime are new, appear to be hinged and can seemingly separate from the rest of the grill.

- (This is the one I just noticed) - New SS Prime doesn't have the red pieces on his thighs that the upper tires are attached to - the tires now sit closer to the leg.

Optimus may actually be the figure I'm most excited about from these reveals. He looks SO good!

Edit: Now, the paint on the final products often differs, but in the art for the new SS Prime he has painted hubcaps too

Well, fuck.

To go along with the reveals of Studio Series 07 movie Optimus Prime and Bonecrusher, we now have the official images from Hasbro's presentation! These are both Voyager scale, and while Optimus Prime is a retool of the already released RotF Optimus Prime, Bonecrusher is a completely new mold, and the pair of them look ready to throw down like that iconic scene in the 2007 live action movie. These were revealed at Comic Con Paris.





UPDATE:

We now have an official image for Leader Class Jetfire showing off this versions alt mode,this also comes from the same presentation that revealed 07 Prime and Bonecrusher.



These images can also be found on the Transformers Facebook page.

Also fellow Seibertron user Evasion Mode Bumblebee, has been kind enough to point out some of the changes between the two Optimus Prime releases. It's also believed that 07 Prime has been altered to combine with the Leader Class Jetfire revealed earlier, and who you can see again in the picture above.

Evasion Mode Bumblebee wrote:- New SS Prime has tabs on his forearms, probably for Jetfire combination

- Obvious chest remolding

- Fuel tanks appear to be remolded

- Back piece / truck top on old SS Prime (where the swords can plug into in robot mode) is new, doesn't have the ports for the swords and can instead split into different pieces for more robot-mode accuracy.

- Lower pieces on the truck mode grill for new SS Prime are new, appear to be hinged and can seemingly separate from the rest of the grill.

- (This is the one I just noticed) - New SS Prime doesn't have the red pieces on his thighs that the upper tires are attached to - the tires now sit closer to the leg.

What do you think of these? Will you be double dipping on Prime? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

I'm glad I skipped the first Prime. This one looks much better in terms of molding and colors. Now all we need is '09 Concept Camaro Bumblebee!

Sigmus Prime wrote:I'm glad I skipped out on the first Prime. This one looks much better in terms of molding and colors.

That was exactly what I was thinking. Even though I doubt he will perfectly reflect the 3D render above I can see he will look better and we will get a new combining Optimus and Jetfire, plus the Voyager/Leader thing makes sense, Optimus probably is smaller that Jetfire, what with how one is a jet plane and the other is a semi-truck.

Sigmus Prime wrote: Now all we need is '09 Concept Camaro Bumblebee!

YES.

Although I'd be happy with the concept Camaro modes from any of the first 3 movies. DOTM would be my dream, but I think the MV1 concept Camaro mode is in greater need of a deluxe update.

I'm ok with them taking their time with it too though, we do have a lot of Bees in SS right now (not that I'm complaining).

Also, thanks for newsing my SS Prime comparison, Zerowolf!

I don’t have the first Optimus so I can’t say for sure and this is a retool but doesn’t optimus look like he shares some transformation elements with TF Prime first edition Optimus? I see it in the arms and fake chest

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Sigmus Prime wrote: Now all we need is '09 Concept Camaro Bumblebee!

YES.

Although I'd be happy with the concept Camaro modes from any of the first 3 movies. DOTM would be my dream, but I think the MV1 concept Camaro mode is in greater need of a deluxe update.

I'm ok with them taking their time with it too though, we do have a lot of Bees in SS right now (not that I'm complaining).

Also, thanks for newsing my SS Prime comparison, Zerowolf!

Thank you for making it things like that are a great help to show people what the differences are.

I think that I am officially done with Tak/Tomy/Hasbro. I am more and more finding myself drawn to third-party TFs. Got FT-10 Phoenix and TW-C07 Green Constructor with TW-C07F Weathered Yellow on pre-order from BBTS. Just bought DX9 D08 Gewalt and DX9 D05 Chigurh.

I will create a battle diorama with these figures, but I am selling the TW-C07 Green Constructor and will add another Autobot combiner like MT Quantron or FT-20 Terminus Giganticus Aegis Sentinel A&B to aid FT-10 Phoenix in the battle for peace. The horrid movies really ruined it for me. I am happy to say goodbye to licensed TFs for good. I must admit though that I find the Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Drift with Mini Dinobots exceptionally cute for all the right reasons.

I got the first Optimus because I needed my plastic fix and he was on sale.
Turn out he's bad.

But that new one who is definitely not a lazy repaint may be worth getting.
Oh yeah, and that Bonecrusher too. He'll replace my 2007 deluxe in my Bey Constructicons display for sure.

Yeah, add me to the list of people that are glad they didn't get the original Voyager Op. I only have a few SS figures, but I try to collect good Prime figures and that first one just wasn't doing it for me. Now I'm pretty sure I want the new Prime and Jetfire.

Emerje