Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave)
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Thanks to fellow Seibertronians Cyberpath and Sabrblade, we have some additional information about the Takara Tomy Transformers MP-29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave figure recently revealed (as covered here).
The source is the official Transformers page over on Takara's website and the Takara Tomy Mall listing for the toy, but what we get are a series of stock images showing off this apparently 'anime accurate' redeco of the Shockwave figure we have already seen released previously. Most interestingly, we get a comparison shot between this figure and its predecessor, showing of the really quite drastic change in hue for the purple used - maybe the lavender refuters will be happier with this darker shade! Check them out below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!
The source is the official Transformers page over on Takara's website and the Takara Tomy Mall listing for the toy, but what we get are a series of stock images showing off this apparently 'anime accurate' redeco of the Shockwave figure we have already seen released previously. Most interestingly, we get a comparison shot between this figure and its predecessor, showing of the really quite drastic change in hue for the purple used - maybe the lavender refuters will be happier with this darker shade! Check them out below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!
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Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958668)
Posted by frogbat on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:04am CDT
Posted by frogbat on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:04am CDT
When displayed on his own I prefer the new deep purple - and I think the images above are a bit oversaturated but we won't know till diff images become available.
However when in group shots standing next to the likes of sound wave and mp megs... I prefer the anime version.
I found shockwave to be perhaps one of the most disappointing figures I own, he's good and fits the part, however there are visible gaps in the gun mode they could've done better to fill, and there are too many screws and screw holes visible...
However when in group shots standing next to the likes of sound wave and mp megs... I prefer the anime version.
I found shockwave to be perhaps one of the most disappointing figures I own, he's good and fits the part, however there are visible gaps in the gun mode they could've done better to fill, and there are too many screws and screw holes visible...
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958672)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:43am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:43am CDT
Upon close inspection of the comparison shots, he face has been retooled too! While the overall shape of the head's exterior is the same, what was once a hexagonal-shaped interior is now rectangular.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958673)
Posted by angtre on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:54am CDT
Maybe it's just a matter of shades: the original MP had its eye inside a smaller square hole, fitted into the hexagonal one.
I can't really be sure just by looking at these shots though, and the new MP variant of Megatron surely got its head retooled quite a bit.
Posted by angtre on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:54am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Upon close inspection of the comparison shots, he face has been retooled too! While the overall shape of the head's exterior is the same, what was once a hexagonal-shaped interior is now rectangular.
Maybe it's just a matter of shades: the original MP had its eye inside a smaller square hole, fitted into the hexagonal one.
I can't really be sure just by looking at these shots though, and the new MP variant of Megatron surely got its head retooled quite a bit.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958678)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:07am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:07am CDT
The eye does look smaller/more concentrated, at least.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958679)
Posted by Randomhero on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:09am CDT
It’s just not all painted black
Posted by Randomhero on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:09am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Upon close inspection of the comparison shots, he face has been retooled too! While the overall shape of the head's exterior is the same, what was once a hexagonal-shaped interior is now rectangular.
It’s just not all painted black
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958681)
Posted by ausbot on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:12am CDT
Posted by ausbot on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:12am CDT
I'd rather a grey "shackwave" version.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958685)
Posted by shajaki on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:33am CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:33am CDT
Wow... not impressed with the price hike. BBTS still have Lavenderwave in stock for 160 USD...
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958686)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:37am CDT
I second that. Masterpiece Shockwave in Astro Magnum colors would be awesome, and would fit in better with anyone’s Diaclone Masterpiece figures too! As for this Shockwave, I am loving these colors! The definitive version of the mold by far. Today has been crazy with all of these Masterpiece figure reveals. BW Megatron, Diaclone Sunstreaker (Cordon Bleu), and the MP+ figures have seriously made my day.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:37am CDT
ausbot wrote:I'd rather a grey "shackwave" version.
I second that. Masterpiece Shockwave in Astro Magnum colors would be awesome, and would fit in better with anyone’s Diaclone Masterpiece figures too! As for this Shockwave, I am loving these colors! The definitive version of the mold by far. Today has been crazy with all of these Masterpiece figure reveals. BW Megatron, Diaclone Sunstreaker (Cordon Bleu), and the MP+ figures have seriously made my day.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958692)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:57am CDT
Well now the price is explained, its a TTMall exclusive so Hasbro asia is gonna milk any non japan fan dry. What is pathetic about the way this is advertized by BBTS is that the toy they are selling is NOT limited in the least nor is it exclusive (since if it truly was they would not be able to sell it). It coming with the coing means this is not the TTMall release. This is always the case of course, but I just think its a very BS practice from online retailers.
In reality, the true exclusivity of this figure is that you can get it cheaper at TTMall an no where else.
Anyways, I feel a bit better to be honest, means I wont feel regret for buying the lighter purple version.
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:57am CDT
shajaki wrote:Wow... not impressed with the price hike. BBTS still have Lavenderwave in stock for 160 USD...
Well now the price is explained, its a TTMall exclusive so Hasbro asia is gonna milk any non japan fan dry. What is pathetic about the way this is advertized by BBTS is that the toy they are selling is NOT limited in the least nor is it exclusive (since if it truly was they would not be able to sell it). It coming with the coing means this is not the TTMall release. This is always the case of course, but I just think its a very BS practice from online retailers.
In reality, the true exclusivity of this figure is that you can get it cheaper at TTMall an no where else.
Anyways, I feel a bit better to be honest, means I wont feel regret for buying the lighter purple version.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958693)
Posted by Agamemnon on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:58am CDT
Posted by Agamemnon on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:58am CDT
Awww....I like this color better, but I cannot justify two MP Shockies... 
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958709)
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on May 10th, 2018 @ 11:26am CDT
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on May 10th, 2018 @ 11:26am CDT
I am seeing the same exact head and face on shockwave.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958716)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2018 @ 11:44am CDT
Though, that eye does still look smaller to me.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2018 @ 11:44am CDT
Yeah, the coloration threw me for a loop.Deathsaurus1 wrote:I am seeing the same exact head and face on shockwave.
Though, that eye does still look smaller to me.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958741)
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 10th, 2018 @ 2:41pm CDT
How about this guy?
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 10th, 2018 @ 2:41pm CDT
ausbot wrote:I'd rather a grey "shackwave" version.
How about this guy?
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958748)
Posted by TMan978 on May 10th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CDT
Posted by TMan978 on May 10th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CDT
Dude...I'm cool with paying a premium on import toys but this one is redonkulous. It's not even a new mold. No new content...I cant do it. I'm so afraid of what Megatron will cost.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958788)
Posted by sol magnus on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CDT
I'm good with the original, although color scheme wise, I like MP-29+ better. They say this is the "anime" version? He's the exact same color as G1 Shockwave.
While I'm not getting this one, I'm hoping the price increase isn't due to the Tariff situation...or oil prices going up again, or whatever other worldly nonsense is occurring.
Posted by sol magnus on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CDT
TMan978 wrote:Dude...I'm cool with paying a premium on import toys but this one is redonkulous. It's not even a new mold. No new content...I cant do it. I'm so afraid of what Megatron will cost.
I'm good with the original, although color scheme wise, I like MP-29+ better. They say this is the "anime" version? He's the exact same color as G1 Shockwave.
While I'm not getting this one, I'm hoping the price increase isn't due to the Tariff situation...or oil prices going up again, or whatever other worldly nonsense is occurring.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958790)
Posted by TMan978 on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:12pm CDT
Posted by TMan978 on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:12pm CDT
Their prices have been skyrocketing for the past two to three years starting with the Seekers.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958791)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:23pm CDT
It is expensive for one reason and one reason only. It is because it is not a wide release in Japan, only available at one retailer. So Hasbro Asia will be distributing it elsewhere instead and since they know you can't get the actual takara release, they are charging as much as they can for their release. Same situation as the seekers.
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:23pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:TMan978 wrote:Dude...I'm cool with paying a premium on import toys but this one is redonkulous. It's not even a new mold. No new content...I cant do it. I'm so afraid of what Megatron will cost.
I'm good with the original, although color scheme wise, I like MP-29+ better. They say this is the "anime" version? He's the exact same color as G1 Shockwave.
While I'm not getting this one, I'm hoping the price increase isn't due to the Tariff situation...or oil prices going up again, or whatever other worldly nonsense is occurring.
It is expensive for one reason and one reason only. It is because it is not a wide release in Japan, only available at one retailer. So Hasbro Asia will be distributing it elsewhere instead and since they know you can't get the actual takara release, they are charging as much as they can for their release. Same situation as the seekers.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958792)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CDT
Similar to MP "Bluestreak". This will be a "limited quantity" release. Takara is gonna squeeze every last drop for the G1 toy nostalgia as much as they can.
I'm not swallowing the "anime" tag they put on him. This is the G1 toy version. (Speaking of tags and labels, they even got Godfireconvoy's box wrong.....maybe the announcer was OD'd on sakeenergon or something)
I'm not swallowing the "anime" tag they put on him. This is the G1 toy version. (Speaking of tags and labels, they even got Godfireconvoy's box wrong.....maybe the announcer was OD'd on sakeenergon or something)
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958794)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:47pm CDT
or this?
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 10th, 2018 @ 8:47pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:ausbot wrote:I'd rather a grey "shackwave" version.
How about this guy?
or this?
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958801)
Posted by sol magnus on May 10th, 2018 @ 10:04pm CDT
Good point.
Posted by sol magnus on May 10th, 2018 @ 10:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:TMan978 wrote:Dude...I'm cool with paying a premium on import toys but this one is redonkulous. It's not even a new mold. No new content...I cant do it. I'm so afraid of what Megatron will cost.
I'm good with the original, although color scheme wise, I like MP-29+ better. They say this is the "anime" version? He's the exact same color as G1 Shockwave.
While I'm not getting this one, I'm hoping the price increase isn't due to the Tariff situation...or oil prices going up again, or whatever other worldly nonsense is occurring.
It is expensive for one reason and one reason only. It is because it is not a wide release in Japan, only available at one retailer. So Hasbro Asia will be distributing it elsewhere instead and since they know you can't get the actual takara release, they are charging as much as they can for their release. Same situation as the seekers.
Good point.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958810)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 11th, 2018 @ 12:09am CDT
The prices for the Seekers and to an extent the coneheads still really burns me... I could *maybe* argue for Screamer because he came with the coronation set. But by the time Thundercracker and Skywarp rolled out.... it was mostly because "they know you'd pay it".
I'm *really* curious to see what the price on BW Megs is going to be considering the price on Dinobot.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 11th, 2018 @ 12:09am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Same situation as the seekers.
The prices for the Seekers and to an extent the coneheads still really burns me... I could *maybe* argue for Screamer because he came with the coronation set. But by the time Thundercracker and Skywarp rolled out.... it was mostly because "they know you'd pay it".
I'm *really* curious to see what the price on BW Megs is going to be considering the price on Dinobot.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958811)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2018 @ 12:11am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2018 @ 12:11am CDT
For anyone who hasn't yet bought Masterpiece Shockwave, which one will you now choose? Would it make a difference if the prices for each version were the same? Does anyone prefer the lighter version for any reason other than its lower price?
At least with the Coneheads there was some pretty extensive and unique retooling to be done for each of the three, justifying some of the higher asking price. Thundercracker and Skywarp were definitely overpriced for Starscream repaints with fewer accessories, though. At least those two weren't plagued with the quality control issues the Conheads suffered. Thrust is a floppy hot mess.
SpikeyTigertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:Same situation as the seekers.
The prices for the Seekers and to an extent the coneheads still really burns me... I could *maybe* argue for Screamer because he came with the coronation set. But by the time Thundercracker and Skywarp rolled out.... it was mostly because "they know you'd pay it".
I'm *really* curious to see what the price on BW Megs is going to be considering the price on Dinobot.
At least with the Coneheads there was some pretty extensive and unique retooling to be done for each of the three, justifying some of the higher asking price. Thundercracker and Skywarp were definitely overpriced for Starscream repaints with fewer accessories, though. At least those two weren't plagued with the quality control issues the Conheads suffered. Thrust is a floppy hot mess.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958819)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 11th, 2018 @ 1:28am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on May 11th, 2018 @ 1:28am CDT
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958834)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 11th, 2018 @ 3:44am CDT
I have to agree here. To a certain extent I thought the TRU MP Thundercracker (dark blue) was perfect but when put next to the lighter grey starscream and megs.... It makes me wish I'd jumped for the TTMall light-blue version (not that I could really talk my self into dropping another $200 when the coneheads were confirmed- or at least ramjet at the time).
If he was stand alone I think *would* like the darker purple (also assuming I wasn't double dipping). But in a group, like mine *are* displayed. I feel perfectly content with the lighter lavender.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 11th, 2018 @ 3:44am CDT
frogbat wrote:When displayed on his own I prefer the new deep purple - and I think the images above are a bit oversaturated but we won't know till diff images become available.
However when in group shots standing next to the likes of sound wave and mp megs... I prefer the anime version.
I have to agree here. To a certain extent I thought the TRU MP Thundercracker (dark blue) was perfect but when put next to the lighter grey starscream and megs.... It makes me wish I'd jumped for the TTMall light-blue version (not that I could really talk my self into dropping another $200 when the coneheads were confirmed- or at least ramjet at the time).
If he was stand alone I think *would* like the darker purple (also assuming I wasn't double dipping). But in a group, like mine *are* displayed. I feel perfectly content with the lighter lavender.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958842)
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2018 @ 4:34am CDT
I don't really see where the BBTS or TFSource price is all that bad, though, comparatively anyway. The Japanese price is 21,600JPY (about US$198) plus shipping from Japan (MP-29 in 2016 cost me US$27 for SAL parcel which you likely wouldn't be able to get from a Japanese forwarding service, plus fees). Then there's the Asia price which is better at US$170, but shipping, in my case, starts at $35 bringing the total to US$205. Compared to US$210 at TFSource with free shipping or US$214 at BBTS after shipping, I'd just as well spend the extra US$5 to get it from a domestic seller that'll be easier to work with in case of defects or damage.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2018 @ 4:34am CDT
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:TMan978 wrote:Dude...I'm cool with paying a premium on import toys but this one is redonkulous. It's not even a new mold. No new content...I cant do it. I'm so afraid of what Megatron will cost.
I'm good with the original, although color scheme wise, I like MP-29+ better. They say this is the "anime" version? He's the exact same color as G1 Shockwave.
While I'm not getting this one, I'm hoping the price increase isn't due to the Tariff situation...or oil prices going up again, or whatever other worldly nonsense is occurring.
It is expensive for one reason and one reason only. It is because it is not a wide release in Japan, only available at one retailer. So Hasbro Asia will be distributing it elsewhere instead and since they know you can't get the actual takara release, they are charging as much as they can for their release. Same situation as the seekers.
I don't really see where the BBTS or TFSource price is all that bad, though, comparatively anyway. The Japanese price is 21,600JPY (about US$198) plus shipping from Japan (MP-29 in 2016 cost me US$27 for SAL parcel which you likely wouldn't be able to get from a Japanese forwarding service, plus fees). Then there's the Asia price which is better at US$170, but shipping, in my case, starts at $35 bringing the total to US$205. Compared to US$210 at TFSource with free shipping or US$214 at BBTS after shipping, I'd just as well spend the extra US$5 to get it from a domestic seller that'll be easier to work with in case of defects or damage.
Emerje
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958849)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 11th, 2018 @ 5:45am CDT
After trying my had at importing, even with the discount from Amiami/HLJ/etc... sometimes by the time you factor in shipping... it really all comes out in the wash. Devastator (takara) and Megatron... oh boy.... Though... that was *one* way to get around the "barrel plug" issue.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 11th, 2018 @ 5:45am CDT
Emerje wrote: I don't really see where the BBTS or TFSource price is all that bad, though, comparatively anyway. The Japanese price is 21,600JPY (about US$198) plus shipping from Japan (MP-29 in 2016 cost me US$27 for SAL parcel which you likely wouldn't be able to get from a Japanese forwarding service, plus fees). Then there's the Asia price which is better at US$170, but shipping, in my case, starts at $35 bringing the total to US$205. Compared to US$210 at TFSource with free shipping or US$214 at BBTS after shipping, I'd just as well spend the extra US$5 to get it from a domestic seller that'll be easier to work with in case of defects or damage.
After trying my had at importing, even with the discount from Amiami/HLJ/etc... sometimes by the time you factor in shipping... it really all comes out in the wash. Devastator (takara) and Megatron... oh boy.... Though... that was *one* way to get around the "barrel plug" issue.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958854)
Posted by AlphaBass on May 11th, 2018 @ 7:39am CDT
Posted by AlphaBass on May 11th, 2018 @ 7:39am CDT
Are the only real differences between the two are more lights and a darker color?
Even if I were considering getting it, I can't justify that much of an upcharge for an "upgrade", even if we all know TT will charge it because reasons.
Even if I were considering getting it, I can't justify that much of an upcharge for an "upgrade", even if we all know TT will charge it because reasons.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958861)
Posted by shajaki on May 11th, 2018 @ 8:36am CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 11th, 2018 @ 8:36am CDT
Hmmm... looks like he has tampo's this time around...
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958868)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:21am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:21am CDT
Cheem the Rup has done comparison pics between the Destron and Boei Sanbo versions of Laserwave.
First batch:
Second batch:
First batch:
Second batch:
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958869)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:28am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:28am CDT
Question: why the "Boei Sanbo" for the MP-29+ one? That's just his Japanese function (防衛参謀 bōei sanbō), not a special title.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958871)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:32am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:32am CDT
Takara seems to be unable to use "Laserwave" Trademark as is, hence both the Q-TF and the Legends toy using the Hasbro name "Shockwave" and the previous MP being "Destron Laserwave".JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Question: why the "Boei Sanbo" for the MP-29+ one? That's just his Japanese function (防衛参謀 bōei sanbō), not a special title.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958878)
Posted by sol magnus on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:51am CDT
I don't think it's "bad" other than the generic bad any increase tends to bring. This is an expensive hobby. I spend the money, but I'm concious of the money. As William-James pointed out, and I didn't factor in, this is an exclusive not as widely available, so it's really not that bad.
Posted by sol magnus on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:51am CDT
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:TMan978 wrote:Dude...I'm cool with paying a premium on import toys but this one is redonkulous. It's not even a new mold. No new content...I cant do it. I'm so afraid of what Megatron will cost.
I'm good with the original, although color scheme wise, I like MP-29+ better. They say this is the "anime" version? He's the exact same color as G1 Shockwave.
While I'm not getting this one, I'm hoping the price increase isn't due to the Tariff situation...or oil prices going up again, or whatever other worldly nonsense is occurring.
It is expensive for one reason and one reason only. It is because it is not a wide release in Japan, only available at one retailer. So Hasbro Asia will be distributing it elsewhere instead and since they know you can't get the actual takara release, they are charging as much as they can for their release. Same situation as the seekers.
I don't really see where the BBTS or TFSource price is all that bad, though, comparatively anyway. The Japanese price is 21,600JPY (about US$198) plus shipping from Japan (MP-29 in 2016 cost me US$27 for SAL parcel which you likely wouldn't be able to get from a Japanese forwarding service, plus fees). Then there's the Asia price which is better at US$170, but shipping, in my case, starts at $35 bringing the total to US$205. Compared to US$210 at TFSource with free shipping or US$214 at BBTS after shipping, I'd just as well spend the extra US$5 to get it from a domestic seller that'll be easier to work with in case of defects or damage.
Emerje
I don't think it's "bad" other than the generic bad any increase tends to bring. This is an expensive hobby. I spend the money, but I'm concious of the money. As William-James pointed out, and I didn't factor in, this is an exclusive not as widely available, so it's really not that bad.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958891)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 11th, 2018 @ 10:17am CDT
Oooooo... Doing some comparing with MP boxes, and there's something we overlooked all this time. Look at how the names are rendered on the back of some boxes:
Ironhide
Transformers Masterpiece Ironhide Gallery
Bumble
Transformers Masterpiece Bumblebee Gallery
Streak
Transformers Masterpiece Bluestreak (Streak) Gallery
Allegiance and function in the black, (trademarked) name in yellow. But...
Shockwave
Transformers Masterpiece Shockwave (Laserwave) Gallery
The function is part of the (trademarked) name now, sneaky. So it's not a recent occurrence, it's his full name since the release of the first MP.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 11th, 2018 @ 10:17am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Takara seems to be unable to use "Laserwave" Trademark as is, hence both the Q-TF and the Legends toy using the Hasbro name "Shockwave" and the previous MP being "Destron Laserwave".JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Question: why the "Boei Sanbo" for the MP-29+ one? That's just his Japanese function (防衛参謀 bōei sanbō), not a special title.
Oooooo... Doing some comparing with MP boxes, and there's something we overlooked all this time. Look at how the names are rendered on the back of some boxes:
Ironhide
Transformers Masterpiece Ironhide Gallery
Bumble
Transformers Masterpiece Bumblebee Gallery
Streak
Transformers Masterpiece Bluestreak (Streak) Gallery
Allegiance and function in the black, (trademarked) name in yellow. But...
Shockwave
Transformers Masterpiece Shockwave (Laserwave) Gallery
The function is part of the (trademarked) name now, sneaky. So it's not a recent occurrence, it's his full name since the release of the first MP.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958924)
Posted by TMan978 on May 11th, 2018 @ 1:21pm CDT
Posted by TMan978 on May 11th, 2018 @ 1:21pm CDT
Would this be easier to understand if you can read Japanese? I can't tell where the trademark is listed
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958925)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2018 @ 1:26pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2018 @ 1:26pm CDT
She means that the names we know to be the Trademarked ones are written in the yellow boxes, not that the TM logo is visible with those names.TMan978 wrote:Would this be easier to understand if you can read Japanese? I can't tell where the trademark is listed
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1958930)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 11th, 2018 @ 1:39pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 11th, 2018 @ 1:39pm CDT
For clarification, the names in yellow are the presumably trademarked names:
アイアンハイド aianhaido: "Ironhide"
バンブル banburu: "Bumble" (aka Bumblebee)
ストリーク sutorīku: "Streak" (aka Bluestreak)
防衛参謀レーザーウェーブ bōei sanbō rēzāuēbu: "Defense Official Laserwave"
As you can see, Laserwave has to have a prefix in Japanese script, but Latin script for English, they made due with the "Destron" one.
アイアンハイド aianhaido: "Ironhide"
バンブル banburu: "Bumble" (aka Bumblebee)
ストリーク sutorīku: "Streak" (aka Bluestreak)
防衛参謀レーザーウェーブ bōei sanbō rēzāuēbu: "Defense Official Laserwave"
As you can see, Laserwave has to have a prefix in Japanese script, but Latin script for English, they made due with the "Destron" one.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1959024)
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2018 @ 11:34pm CDT
The original MP-29 was also listed as "Boei Sanbo" as part of its name so it isn't something specific to MP-29+.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2018 @ 11:34pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Question: why the "Boei Sanbo" for the MP-29+ one? That's just his Japanese function (防衛参謀 bōei sanbō), not a special title.
The original MP-29 was also listed as "Boei Sanbo" as part of its name so it isn't something specific to MP-29+.
Emerje
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1959049)
Posted by Relic0037 on May 12th, 2018 @ 5:03am CDT
I don't own an MP-29 yet, but the cheaper price may make me choose Lavenderwave
Posted by Relic0037 on May 12th, 2018 @ 5:03am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Awww....I like this color better, but I cannot justify two MP Shockies...
I don't own an MP-29 yet, but the cheaper price may make me choose Lavenderwave
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1959071)
Posted by TMan978 on May 12th, 2018 @ 10:26am CDT
Thx
Posted by TMan978 on May 12th, 2018 @ 10:26am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For clarification, the names in yellow are the presumably trademarked names:
アイアンハイド aianhaido: "Ironhide"
バンブル banburu: "Bumble" (aka Bumblebee)
ストリーク sutorīku: "Streak" (aka Bluestreak)
防衛参謀レーザーウェーブ bōei sanbō rēzāuēbu: "Defense Official Laserwave"
As you can see, Laserwave has to have a prefix in Japanese script, but Latin script for English, they made due with the "Destron" one.
Thx
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1963660)
Posted by shajaki on June 7th, 2018 @ 5:07pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on June 7th, 2018 @ 5:07pm CDT
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1967033)
Posted by shajaki on June 26th, 2018 @ 8:06pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on June 26th, 2018 @ 8:06pm CDT
A video from TakaraTomy's Youtube page. Go to 18:33 to see MP+ Shocky. Not sure if it's already known, but he look's insignia'less. Guess he's got stickers like Lavenderwave 
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1967041)
Posted by TMan978 on June 26th, 2018 @ 9:13pm CDT
Posted by TMan978 on June 26th, 2018 @ 9:13pm CDT
Shiny!
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1995299)
Posted by Cyberpath on November 24th, 2018 @ 6:19pm CST
Posted by Cyberpath on November 24th, 2018 @ 6:19pm CST
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1995322)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 24th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 24th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CST
Lookin' good! That darker shade of purple is perfect on Masterpiece Shockwave. It's too bad that's not the purple Takara went with initially.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1995326)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 24th, 2018 @ 11:06pm CST
Well, we know they have something of a lavender fixation.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 24th, 2018 @ 11:06pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Lookin' good! That darker shade of purple is perfect on Masterpiece Shockwave. It's too bad that's not the purple Takara went with initially.
Well, we know they have something of a lavender fixation.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1995328)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 24th, 2018 @ 11:12pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 24th, 2018 @ 11:12pm CST
Was kinda hoping they'd name the + version something other than "Destron Laserwave" (as in, a different prefix in front of "Laserwave") to help better differentiate the + version from the regular version that was also named "Destron Laserwave".
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1995345)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 25th, 2018 @ 6:12am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 25th, 2018 @ 6:12am CST
Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Cyberpath, we have done brand new photographs to share of Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave MP 29+! These come couresty of Facebook user GenmonTCracker. The pictures show off more of MP 29+'s cartoon accurate paint job compared to the old MP 29, which is included for comparison. Also pictured is the Hasbro Asia exclusive coin that is being bundled with the release, and as usual with these releases, the coin's case has been made to resemble Shockwaves head.
The pictures have all been mirrored below for your convenience.
What's your take on Shockwaves new colours? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
The pictures have all been mirrored below for your convenience.
What's your take on Shockwaves new colours? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1995350)
Posted by frogbat on November 25th, 2018 @ 6:44am CST
Posted by frogbat on November 25th, 2018 @ 6:44am CST
One of my least favourite mp figures... felt a bit lazy and phoned in. Too many visible screw holes and gaps.
I probably prefer the new colour scheme cos it looks better in general but, the original’s works extremely well when he’s placed side by side with mp36
I probably prefer the new colour scheme cos it looks better in general but, the original’s works extremely well when he’s placed side by side with mp36
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1995351)
Posted by angtre on November 25th, 2018 @ 6:51am CST
Exactly my thoughts. If the character itself weren't this cool... the original toy color scheme suits it well, though. Not a huge fan of the subtle head retooling, by the way.
Posted by angtre on November 25th, 2018 @ 6:51am CST
frogbat wrote:One of my least favourite mp figures... felt a bit lazy and phoned in. Too many visible screw holes and gaps.
Exactly my thoughts. If the character itself weren't this cool... the original toy color scheme suits it well, though. Not a huge fan of the subtle head retooling, by the way.
Re: Stock Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP29+ Boei Sanbo Laserwave (Shockwave) (1995353)
Posted by Cyberpath on November 25th, 2018 @ 7:10am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on November 25th, 2018 @ 7:10am CST
He's actually one of my favourite figures (I have the first release.) Looks good from every angle and so cartoon-like; the way that they got the sleek shape of his legs, made me a bit more bummed about MP-10's legs and the wheels pockets. (Before we were getting a new one.)
And the ease of transformation inspired me to transform the MPs more often.
I appreciate the light piping on him, not something I want in MPs, but suits him fine because his "face" is a light-bulb. The light-gimmicks are also nice, wish Megatron's cannon had it instead of sound bites (which I haven't even tried.)
Like the interchangeable hands and mini-me gun, too.
Some older pix --
And the ease of transformation inspired me to transform the MPs more often.
I appreciate the light piping on him, not something I want in MPs, but suits him fine because his "face" is a light-bulb. The light-gimmicks are also nice, wish Megatron's cannon had it instead of sound bites (which I haven't even tried.)
Like the interchangeable hands and mini-me gun, too.
Some older pix --
