SDCC 2015 - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars G2 Superion Revealed

Those G2 insignias

Is it weird that Air Raid and Skydive look like Topspin and Twin Twist?

Well, I'm gonna have to buy that Superion, and it's probably gonna cost a mint.

Anyone have an idea on what Powerglide's new deco is based on? Cause he didn't have a G2 toy, and the only thing I can think of is the 2008 Universe Ultra Powerglide.

Or maybe it's Bad Boy, but with all the Blue replaced with Red?

Hooray for G2!

No more GPS?

Oh come on! You'd think with it being a gift set that they'd mold Airraid's and Skydive's guns in the same color. So...who wants to trade guns with me when these come out? I really like the blue gun so I'll trade the greyish one for someone's blue one.

*nod of approval*

Wow where is the g2 alpha bravo ? Did Hasbro cheat him out of a G2 color scheme? Give VA ' AL s favorite character a G2 color scheme or I go on strike

We got more yo: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ion/33443/

Autobot tap out wrote:Wow where is the g2 alpha bravo ? Did Hasbro cheat him out of a G2 color scheme? Give VA ' AL s favorite character a G2 color scheme or I go on strike

They should have included Alpha Bravo as the fourth Deluxe along with a plastic bag of gold dust labeled "Slingshot" "Quickslinger" instead.

That will definitely cost an arm and a leg. But I will try my damnedest to get it, as I love that color scheme.
And the best part? NO ALPHA BRAVO!!! (yet)

Alpha Weltall wrote:Oh come on! You'd think with it being a gift set that they'd mold Airraid's and Skydive's guns in the same color. So...who wants to trade guns with me when these come out? I really like the blue gun so I'll trade the greyish one for someone's blue one.

Funny, they should've all been black weapons like the G2 ones. But I can see where Hasbro comes from, that ALL their weapons and hand/foot/weapon pieces are all distinct in color combination. If a hand/foot/weapon piece is a remold with the same primary color, the thumb joint has a different color. The only repeats are Firefly/Quickslinger and Alpha Bravo/Blades.

where and how much?

where's the outrage at g2 firefly being nearly identical to g1 firefly

Sky Lynx, Hound and Smokescreen look great! Wheeljack is tempting, but I like my 2010 Generations Wheeljack too much to replace it. I can live without the G2 Aerialbots and Victorion (the colours put me right off), I was considering maybe buying one or two Victorion components as limbs for Sky Reign in place of Wheeljack and Trailbreaker, but seeing as Victorion is a box-set I won't be able to do that.

peaces wrote:where's the outrage at g2 firefly being nearly identical to g1 firefly

To be fair though, we've had about 21 years to get over it now. However, I did make a joke about it when I shared the story on Facebook.

william-james88 wrote:As you may have seen a hint of it in the also newly revealed Victorion, Hasbro has now revealed Combiner Wars Superion in G2 colours.

Not crazy about Victorion's color scheme, but I am loving that combining sword she is wielding! I'm very intrigued by her hands and feet. Those are definitely not the traditional foot/fists we've seen so far. I hope these new ones are stowable in robot and vehicle. That's why I like the old ff's; they were passable as weaponry. I hope Victorion's are as well.

I really like Wheelhack and definitely want to get a figure of him (Keep in mind I'm new and am starting from scratch). Would you guys recommend going after the previous generations Wheeljack or hold out for the new one?

Silverbolt's blue and red makes him look like a cheap bootleg.

Aggh, and I already have Superion Complete, hopefully they will do a G2 Menasor

Hideous, I love it.

Autobot tap out wrote:Wow where is the g2 alpha bravo ? Did Hasbro cheat him out of a G2 color scheme?

Like there aren't enough redecos of that turd already!


Too bad this is apparently giftset only. I totally get why it would be that way, but I really like how a couple look, however I don't like them all (much as I love Slingshot, gold is not his color, just what he's worth his weight in) certainly not enough to rebuy them all.

joeprime276 wrote:I really like Wheelhack and definitely want to get a figure of him (Keep in mind I'm new and am starting from scratch). Would you guys recommend going after the previous generations Wheeljack or hold out for the new one?

Would Masterpiece wheeljack be out of the question? He is the best there is and the only one that isn't a retool of a previous toy.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Silverbolt's blue and red makes him look like a cheap bootleg.

To be fair though, a lot of G2 looked like bootlegs with those colours

the new wheeljack looks great, plus it combines. for accuracy the mp is better anyways.

joeprime276 wrote:I really like Wheelhack and definitely want to get a figure of him (Keep in mind I'm new and am starting from scratch). Would you guys recommend going after the previous generations Wheeljack or hold out for the new one?

The previous Wheeljack is a great figure, but I have no idea what it currently goes for on the secondary market. If you can get it at a price you're willing to pay, I'd say go for it.

The TF Prime Wheeljack is also a great figure, btw. If you don't absolutely care that it be a Gen line figure, or that the aesthetic style is slightly different, that could be another option.

shajaki wrote:So, can anyone make out if SS still has the police light bar?

From what we saw at Botcon it seems he will

william-james88 wrote:

Clench was technically a "late-G1(.5)" release before it was repackaged and rereleased under the G2 label as Colossus.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Clench was technically a "late-G1(.5)" release before it was repackaged and rereleased under the G2 label as Colossus.

Ok, thanks! Still has those G2 KO colours though

Optimum Supreme wrote:

joeprime276 wrote:I really like Wheelhack and definitely want to get a figure of him (Keep in mind I'm new and am starting from scratch). Would you guys recommend going after the previous generations Wheeljack or hold out for the new one?

The previous Wheeljack is a great figure, but I have no idea what it currently goes for on the secondary market. If you can get it at a price you're willing to pay, I'd say go for it.

The TF Prime Wheeljack is also a great figure, btw. If you don't absolutely care that it be a Gen line figure, or that the aesthetic style is slightly different, that could be another option.

Oh man I forgot about Prime Wheeljack. Ok Joeprime, forget what I wrote, get that one instead. It's not too expensive and is an original mold (unlike these generation ones) and an amazing one at that. If you really need a more G1 style Wheeljack, I say go for the MP.

william-james88 wrote:Would Masterpiece wheeljack be out of the question? He is the best there is and the only one that isn't a retool of a previous toy.

Unfortunately, yes. Out of my price range. They are gorgeous figures though. Out of curiosity what "size class" would they be considered (i.e. voyager, leader)?

Optimum Supreme wrote:
The previous Wheeljack is a great figure, but I have no idea what it currently goes for on the secondary market. If you can get it at a price you're willing to pay, I'd say go for it.

The TF Prime Wheeljack is also a great figure, btw. If you don't absolutely care that it be a Gen line figure, or that the aesthetic style is slightly different, that could be another option.

I just checked eBay and the prices are quite fair for him; ranging between $15-$30 depending on condition. Now that I think of it, I may have gotten the TF Prime Wheeljack a while back. I'll have to check.

peaces wrote:the new wheeljack looks great, plus it combines. for accuracy the mp is better anyways.

That's really the only reason I would get the new one over the others that were previously released. Because he combines with the rest of the CW.

william-james88 wrote:To be fair though, a lot of G2 looked like bootlegs with those colours

Not in the context of the times. It was only after G2 was on the way out the door that the crazy/neon color craze had run its course. My first few years of grade school, everything was neon colored, even my shoelaces. We were in the 90s dude. The future. Even the colors had to be different!

Then by '96 when Beast Wars rolled around, Tupac and Hollywood Hogan signed Monica Lewinsky to join The Backstreet Boys which ended the conflict in Mozambique, created the internet, and spurned Fred Durst to lead us into our new promised land of rap-rock albums.

I'm a 90s historian, by golly.

Desert Storm.

On the subject of G2, I quite like those colours, even on powerglide.

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:To be fair though, a lot of G2 looked like bootlegs with those colours

Not in the context of the times. It was only after G2 was on the way out the door that the crazy/neon color craze had run its course. My first few years of grade school, everything was neon colored, even my shoelaces. We were in the 90s dude. The future. Even the colors had to be different!

Then by '96 when Beast Wars rolled around, Tupac and Hollywood Hogan signed Monica Lewinsky to join The Backstreet Boys which ended the conflict in Mozambique, created the internet, and spurned Fred Durst to lead us into our new promised land of rap-rock albums.

I'm a 90s historian, by golly.

Desert Storm.

This is one of the greatest posts I've ever read.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:This is one of the greatest posts I've ever read.

It was so great it made G2 Menasor happen. You're welcome.

So uh, we're getting Scattorshot, but no Computron. Instead he's getting to partner up with a bunch of '84 limb-bots to form Betatron.



Welp, time to save up for Quantron I guess.

(Also someone rehost this picture quick: Imgur is broken and this image i8s linked directly from 4chan)

ZeroWolf wrote:On the subject of G2, I quite like those colours, even on powerglide.

Speaking of Powerglide, I find it interesting Hasbro felt the need to retcon him in to a G2 throwback giftset. He was never released in G2. They could have skipped him altogether, charged the same price, and no one would have complained or thought anything suspicious of his lack of inclusion. If they're going to be so revisionist, why not go all the way and include a "G2" Alpha Bravo for maximum Scramble City action?

SCATTORSHOT IS A REMOLD OF SILVERBOLT I FREAKING CALLED IT!

THE MOMENT I FIRST LAID EYES ON THE COMBINER WARS SILVERBOLT MOLD I SAID IT WOULD WORK AS SCATTORSHOT!

(go me!)

Gearslide wrote:SCATTORSHOT IS A REMOLD OF SILVERBOLT I FREAKING CALLED IT!

THE MOMENT I FIRST LAID EYES ON THE COMBINER WARS SILVERBOLT MOLD I SAID IT WOULD WORK AS SCATTORSHOT!

(go me!)

Is any of the retooling shared with CW Cyclonus? It looks like yes, but it's hard to tell without higher quality pictures.

Also, I wouldn't lose heart just yet that we're not getting Computron. Hasbro (or especially Takara) could release the rest of the Technobots later on. "Betatron" may be just a placeholder for the sake of toy advertising until they're ready to release a proper team for Scattorshot.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Gearslide wrote:SCATTORSHOT IS A REMOLD OF SILVERBOLT I FREAKING CALLED IT!

THE MOMENT I FIRST LAID EYES ON THE COMBINER WARS SILVERBOLT MOLD I SAID IT WOULD WORK AS SCATTORSHOT!

(go me!)

Is any of the retooling shared with CW Cyclonus? It looks like yes, but it's hard to tell without higher quality pictures.

Also, I wouldn't lose heart just yet that we're not getting Computron. Hasbro (or especially Takara) could release the rest of the Technobots later on. "Betatron" may be just a placeholder for the sake of toy advertising until they're ready to release a proper team for Scattorshot.

Let's wait for the Seibertron News Team to get their pics up.

Victorion looks...interesting.

On one hand, I'm very impressed with how well those molds work as females, and the remolded parts are pretty cool. On the other hand, that color scheme is atrocious.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Gearslide wrote:SCATTORSHOT IS A REMOLD OF SILVERBOLT I FREAKING CALLED IT!

THE MOMENT I FIRST LAID EYES ON THE COMBINER WARS SILVERBOLT MOLD I SAID IT WOULD WORK AS SCATTORSHOT!

(go me!)

Is any of the retooling shared with CW Cyclonus? It looks like yes, but it's hard to tell without higher quality pictures.

Also, I wouldn't lose heart just yet that we're not getting Computron. Hasbro (or especially Takara) could release the rest of the Technobots later on. "Betatron" may be just a placeholder for the sake of toy advertising until they're ready to release a proper team for Scattorshot.

Seems to be a completely separate retooling from Cyclonus, being a completely different remold. The head is different for Robot and Combined mode (it's hard to tell, but I'm pretty sure that's Computron's head in the promo art) and the top of the plane mold has new wings and fuselage (The tail fins seems mostly the same as Silverbolt).

It's not that often that a Voyager size mold sees multiple significantly different retools. I guess Hasbro is working on being more cost efficient in production?

Gearslide wrote:Seems to be a completely separate retooling from Cyclonus, being a completely different remold. The head is different for Robot and Combined mode (it's hard to tell, but I'm pretty sure that's Computron's head in the promo art) and the top of the plane mold has new wings and fuselage (The tail fins seems mostly the same as Silverbolt).

It's not that often that a Voyager size mold sees multiple significantly different retools. I guess Hasbro is working on being more cost efficient in production?

With many airplane transformers, remolding is pretty easy. When most of the robot is just stored underneath the plane proper, you just have to make a new "jet backpack" and voila! You're done. No need to re-engineer a transformation scheme. Add a new headsulpt or two, and you're golden.

Wolfman Jake wrote:why not go all the way and include a "G2" Alpha Bravo for maximum Scramble City action?

Because that POS was unnecessary in the 1st place.

I wonder if Perfect Effect will make a blue set of fists and feet for G2 Superion. If not, the white set might work.

Does anyone have a shot of CW Menasor with Legends Thundercracker in his chest, if it can be done?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Victorion looks...interesting.

On one hand, I'm very impressed with how well those molds work as females, and the remolded parts are pretty cool. On the other hand, that color scheme is atrocious.

That is such a goopy hand painted prototype. I hope the colors come out better once she is molded in the appropriate plastics.

I dig her combiner head sculpt, and her dainty new hands and pointy shoes.
Did the fandom really vote on her having two AB's as limbs? Cop out?
Otherwise I'm excited to see more of her.

doesn't matter how goopy the paint is. that deco is still grotesque.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:To be fair though, a lot of G2 looked like bootlegs with those colours

Not in the context of the times. It was only after G2 was on the way out the door that the crazy/neon color craze had run its course. My first few years of grade school, everything was neon colored, even my shoelaces. We were in the 90s dude. The future. Even the colors had to be different!

Then by '96 when Beast Wars rolled around, Tupac and Hollywood Hogan signed Monica Lewinsky to join The Backstreet Boys which ended the conflict in Mozambique, created the internet, and spurned Fred Durst to lead us into our new promised land of rap-rock albums.

I'm a 90s historian, by golly.

Desert Storm.

This is one of the greatest posts I've ever read.

I am so honoured that I am quoted as part of this beauty of a post.

Attica ATTICA!

Cobotron wrote:Did the fandom really vote on her having two AB's as limbs? Cop out?
Otherwise I'm excited to see more of her.

No, it's a copter out.

peaces wrote:doesn't matter how goopy the paint is. that deco is still grotesque.

So is G2 Superion's. But that's not stopping anybody.

Anybody notice with the helicopters, they did away with the rockets on their arms, and replaced them with wing/fins?

Wolfman Jake wrote:No, it's a copter out.

que corny muted trumpet.

Gearslide wrote:SCATTORSHOT IS A REMOLD OF SILVERBOLT I FREAKING CALLED IT!

THE MOMENT I FIRST LAID EYES ON THE COMBINER WARS SILVERBOLT MOLD I SAID IT WOULD WORK AS SCATTORSHOT!

(go me!)

But did you predict that it would share the voyager wave with Bruticus and thus not get his own deluxes. Or that he would be called Betatron?

Here is the pic we have so far:



He was the mystery torso they didnt reveal at Botcon. Though its a huge bummer, it means he wont have his own team.

Regarding scattershot, maybe they're still working on his limbs...

11:50 by Skankerzero

'Betatron is basically the beta release of the combiners'

taken from the allspark live panel blog