Rumour: Potential Transformers Masterpiece Megatron and Cliffjumper Designs

I see prime head

My body is ready. (My wallet is not.)

Wait a second, what's that in the upper right corner? It kinda looks like Kickback's head. THE PLOT THICKENS.

i would definitely be a bit more than bummed if those tree trunks were masterpiece megatrons legs.

if this is real, which i think is unlikely, why would hasbro be using it?

I don't think this is a deliberate hint, I suspect the graphic designers just used random schematics from HasTak's image bank. But they may have unintentionally let the cat out of the bag.

Hopefully this is true, because Megatron looks promising.

That's Bumblebee at the bottom of the page btw. Cliffjumper has different arms.

Metro Prime wrote:My body is ready. (My wallet is not.)

Wait a second, what's that in the upper right corner? It kinda looks like Kickback's head. THE PLOT THICKENS.

That's the Matrix of Leadership.

This would appear to have already been debunked by the rediscovery of the same artwork in other Hasbro Transformers outlets - the image below is allegedly from their official page for licensees.



This does not, however, entirely remove the potentiality of any of those molds and figures ever surfacing, in my opinion.

If that's a new Masterpiece Megatron, I'm so going to skip that decent looking third party one that should be out this month.

Probably will be another 6 months before we see real stuff

I wouldn't read too much into this. It's exactly the same kind of schematic design that the AOE figures had in their packaging. The Then & Now figures had their own version which included G1 Optimus and Grimlock, the actual G1 designs not the 'G1' toys included in the packs, same for the 'Silver Knight' figures.

It's just a design. It's Generations so they've just including who they now consider to be the three main staples of the franchise, in their G1 incarnations, not designs of any particular figures for them.

Is that BB?

Va'al wrote:This would appear to have already been debunked by the rediscovery of the same artwork in other Hasbro Transformers outlets - the image below is allegedly from their official page for licensees.



This does not, however, entirely remove the potentiality of any of those molds and figures ever surfacing, in my opinion.

Thanks for the image. That Optimus Prime is definitely MP-10; and while the little guy is indeed Bumblebee, it's different than MP-21, particularly the head. Wonder who made these.

Cyberpath wrote:

Va'al wrote:This would appear to have already been debunked by the rediscovery of the same artwork in other Hasbro Transformers outlets - the image below is allegedly from their official page for licensees.



This does not, however, entirely remove the potentiality of any of those molds and figures ever surfacing, in my opinion.

Thanks for the image. That Optimus Prime is definitely MP-10; and while the little guy is indeed Bumblebee, it's different than MP-21, particularly the head. Wonder who made these.

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More than likely it was designed by a company called Pilot who were responsible for the rebranding of the line and the designs and artwork for the AOE packaging. They designed the schematic artwork for the AOE/Then and Now/Silver Knight packing inlays, which are similar in design to this:

http://www.pilotstudio.com/work/rebranding-a-giant/

g1 megs again?????

why not do the g2 tank one?

a repaint of bb? no way....

Glad to see that no-one on here reads other people's replies. If they did they'd probably see that this is nothing to do with Masterpiece figures. But hey, I'll let them wallow in their own ignorance if they want.

Yeah so, I doubt Hasbro US would bother putting an MP Megatron design in their instructions, even as a tease. Good luck getting that thing out on shelves.

That said, it goes to show how badly a new MP Megatron seems to be desired in that something like this would garner such attention.

unless they changed the picture, all I see is instructions for the insecticon bombshell.


*didn't scroll down far enough

I understand these confirm nothing but recently to my knowledge video games have been taking all the blame for gun violence. So Hasbro may be able to release a MP Megs through and online retailer if they jam an orange cap in it. Then again someone is bound to find out about it an get p***ed off and bring attention to it. But I don't think anyone should be worried about MP Bumblebee getting a U.S. release. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we also got MP Sideswipe this year.

Railbomb wrote:I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we also got MP Sideswipe this year.

A US release of MP Sideswipe was confirmed at Botcon 2014.

i dont see any cliffjumper! however i do see bumble bee and megatron optimus prime and bombshell!

Va'al wrote:This would appear to have already been debunked by the rediscovery of the same artwork in other Hasbro Transformers outlets - the image below is allegedly from their official page for licensees.



This does not, however, entirely remove the potentiality of any of those molds and figures ever surfacing, in my opinion.

... is that a custom predaking kreo combiner? or did/is japan getting definitively better versions of the microchanger combiners?

I fail to see anything in this that would resemble MP Megatron or Mp Cliffjumper.

I'm more amused by the fact that, because Va'al posted, we get the British 'Rumour' instead of the American 'Rumor'. Hehe.

megatronus wrote:I'm more amused by the fact that, because Va'al posted, we get the British 'Rumour' instead of the American 'Rumor'. Hehe.

I put the U in Rumor.

There's a legends Bombshell? Sweet.

Hey I know this is kinda an old post, but I kinda wanted to ask, has anyone noticed the "Masterpiece" Megatron blueprints on the inside of the Toysrus exclusive Bluestreak's packaging?

Also if you look closely, it kinda looks like there's a Masterpiece Unicron too.

I know most G1 enthusiasts are gonna be pissed at me for saying this, but I hope this Megatron won't turn into a hand-held gun, mainly because I want it to be released in the U.S.

Hi, it turned out that the blueprints were simply decorations from Pilot Studio --

http://www.pilotstudio.com/work/rebranding-a-giant/


As for a "G1" Megatron that doesn't transform into a gun there's always LG13 --

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... on/3703/1/

Cyberpath wrote:Hi, it turned out that the blueprints were simply decorations from Pilot Studio --

http://www.pilotstudio.com/work/rebranding-a-giant/

It still could mean a new Masterpiece Megs on the way, considering the fact that ALL of the other blueprints, are REAL Masterpiece figures...

Cyberpath wrote:As for a "G1" Megatron that doesn't transform into a gun there's always LG13 --

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... on/3703/1/

That's one thing, because he turns into a Tank in most places now, but the Masterpieces are supposed to be EXTREMELY G1 accurate, which means that MP Soundwave turns into a cassette player, and Megatron will probably become a gun, but I hope he doesn't.

It does seem weird to me, that if this Megatron DOES turn into a REALISTIC looking gun, that he'd be teased in a HASBRO U.S. box, cuz and as we all know, toys that look like real guns, are NOT allowed in the U.S. (Take the FIRST MP Megatron we got for example.) Personally, I think he'll turn into a gun, but a STYLIZED gun, like a blaster or something, so that it's obviously not a real gun, but it makes the G1 fans happy still.

@SillySpringer, a new MP Megatron could still happen, but it would have nothing to do with these illustrations. These were produced by a branding studio, not Takara.

I think a Masterpiece Megatron by definition will transform into a P38. Will that prompt Hasbro to skip him or paint him in weird colours? Maybe. Many fans buy the original Japanese releases anyhow, since there's no guarantee Hasbro will release every MP.

@SkyWarpt, that's a red Bumblebee, MP-21R.

Yup, its a RED BUMBLE MP-21R as reported by Twitter user @_Blackburn_ using the ever faithfull magazine scan.
https://twitter.com/_blackburn_/status/634621163663044609/photo/1



Reference:

Fellow Seibertronians Cyberpath and robotmel have been in touch regarding a newly surfaced image of an upcoming redeco of a Takara Tomy Masterpiece figure. Were you expecting Cliffjumper? Well, we're getting MP21R Red Bumblebee instead! Check out the images below, via Facebook page TF Upgrader and weibo user alucardlee.

I always forget, Red bumblebee is "Bumblejumper" and yellow cliffjumber is "Cliffbee" right?

Wouldn't this be Volks?

Windsweeper wrote:Wouldn't this be Volks?

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I always forget, Red bumblebee is "Bumblejumper" and yellow cliffjumber is "Cliffbee" right?

"Bumblejumper" is actually just the toy that was sold on Cliffjumper (and some say Bumblebee) cards in 1984. Completely different sculpt than either Cliff or 'Bee. He was officially christened as Bumper in the early 2000s. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Bumper_(G1)

Also, Volks is technically orange. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Volks_(G1).

As Bumblebee and Cliffjumper were both sold in red and yellow versions for the first two years of the toyline, this is just "red Bumblebee".

Also, sidenote......Takara missed an opportunity to do this in blue, with a facemask, and make it Glyph. They'd maximize investment in the mold with minimal to no changes except for plastic/paint color, and have another MP fembot to boot.

Well, I'm dissapointed. A bit. Sure he looks nice and all... But I wanted Cliffjumper. However, this does install an ever so slight hope that Cliffjumper gets to be his own guy, instead of a repaint. That is, if Cliffjumper is coming at all.

I'm gonna make like a TV set and stay tuned.

That was a bad, bad joke.

If its a new character I'll get it.

Even in the masterpiece line, Cliffjumper can't get a new head sculpt.

Jokes aside, they're probably just gonna allocate a name and a bio to the red bumblebee variant from G1, like they did with exhaust.

MemphisR56 wrote:Even in the masterpiece line, Cliffjumper can't get a new head sculpt.

Jokes aside, they're probably just gonna allocate a name and a bio to the red bumblebee variant from G1, like they did with exhaust.

Whenever cliffjumper is away, sometime prime asks bumblebee to dress up like him. He's just like "Bumblebee, just please, I just need some cliffjumper right now."

"J'accuse!"

"Shut the fuck up Cliffbee!

ausbot wrote:If its a new character I'll get it.

Sadly its not...

So many people are going to buy this thinking its cliffjumper whens its just a red verison of bumblebee

Red Bumblebee definitely needs his facemask. That's the only way we've ever seen him.

Wanna bet they include an exo-suit with a Spike head, just to drive the completists crazy?

And here I thought I had my first news credit a 1/2 hour prior. Oh well.

While Has/Tak keep producing repaint after repaint of their overpriced (vs quality) mp line, FanToys, a much smaller company, is already at how many new mold just in 1 year?

I never bought the original Bee but I just got the golden one thinking he would look nice with YOTH Prime. It is a nice figure but is it worth the price? He's so small, light and frail that he feels like voyager class. He's almost legend class height!

In the same delivery I had Tesla. I know he's more expensive but he's also much bigger. Comparing the two I really felt underwhelmed by Bee.

Imo Fanstoys produces exactly what the mp line should be: simple transformation made possible by great engineering, high quality materials (yes, diecast!!!) and great design esthetic. To me the only figures from Has/Tak that truly feel like they deserve the masterpiece name are Prime and Soundwave. But even with those 2 I have been disappointed by poor QC.

Soon, we'll be able to do a direct comparison between a version of the same figure from both company. Is it going to be mp Hound vs Willy or mp Grimlock vs Grinder? Who will win...?

Thormind wrote:I never bought the original Bee but I just got the golden one thinking he would look nice with YOTH Prime. It is a nice figure but is it worth the price? He's so small, light and frail that he feels like voyager class. He's almost legend class height!

That's a pretty far reaching exaggeration on the size. What Legends figure should I go put next to it to see your point? Also, the Bee toys have been very inexpensive. I think G2 Bee was all of $40, if that, from Japanese retailers.

as interesting as this is (and i am looking forward to a proper mp cliffjumper as i already have yellow bee), i'm more interested in wha appears to be a pic of iron hide's under side...

"Bumble Red Body" is the toy's name.

Should have been Stinger, though.

Sabrblade wrote:"Bumble Red Body" is the toy's name.

Should have been Stinger, though.

The official name is Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers.

MP class is getting on a wierd way... loosing that magic

This does make me wonder how Takara is going to eventually (I'm staying hopeful) do Masterpiece Cliffjumper. The original Bumblebee was a penny-racer version of a VW Beetle. The Masterpiece version is styled after a real VW Beetle, and there is little appreciable difference aesthetically between the figure, the G1 toy, and the G1 cartoon character model.
Cliffjumper is a penny-racer styled Porsche. The cartoon character model from G1 pretty much followed the toy proportions. Will Takara do a realistic Porsche 924 Turbo and be able to make the robot mode into a "Masterpiece" representation of Cliffjumper?

Dang it! I'm really disappointed. Even with a possible (more cliff-jumper-y) third party head sculpt, I don't know if it would look good to diplay him next to bee, because there would be almost no difference between the two. At least the seekers have a relatively good excuse to use the same exact mold.

ScottyP wrote:

Thormind wrote:I never bought the original Bee but I just got the golden one thinking he would look nice with YOTH Prime. It is a nice figure but is it worth the price? He's so small, light and frail that he feels like voyager class. He's almost legend class height!

That's a pretty far reaching exaggeration on the size. What Legends figure should I go put next to it to see your point?

I did say "almost"... Put him beside Powerglide or Cosmos, he isn't too far...

ScottyP wrote:Also, the Bee toys have been very inexpensive. I think G2 Bee was all of $40, if that, from Japanese retailers.

Most "major" retailers have G2 at 64.99$US. Cheapest I could find in Canada on preorder was 74.99$CA (53$US). Cheapest for G1 Bee 79.99$. Leaders sell for 54-59$, Voyagers for 30-35$ and legends for 10-15$ (CA). If I compare him to Leader Megatron, for example, I really don't see any justification for the price outside of the mp title.

I'm just getting tired of Has/Tak not listening to the fans and just "milking" the mp line with repaint after repaint. Just some minor retools on top of the red repaint and they would have produced what we've all been asking (and waiting) for!

Thormind wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

Thormind wrote:I never bought the original Bee but I just got the golden one thinking he would look nice with YOTH Prime. It is a nice figure but is it worth the price? He's so small, light and frail that he feels like voyager class. He's almost legend class height!

That's a pretty far reaching exaggeration on the size. What Legends figure should I go put next to it to see your point?

I did say "almost"... Put him beside Powerglide or Cosmos, he isn't too far...

ScottyP wrote:Also, the Bee toys have been very inexpensive. I think G2 Bee was all of $40, if that, from Japanese retailers.

Most "major" retailers have G2 at 64.99$US. Cheapest I could find in Canada on preorder was 74.99$CA (53$US). Cheapest for G1 Bee 79.99$. Leaders sell for 54-59$, Voyagers for 30-35$ and legends for 10-15$ (CA). If I compare him to Leader Megatron, for example, I really don't see any justification for the price outside of the mp title.

I'm just getting tired of Has/Tak not listening to the fans and just "milking" the mp line with repaint after repaint. Just some minor retools on top of the red repaint and they would have produced what we've all been asking (and waiting) for!

Are you serious? Powerglide is as close to MP Bee in size as a current deluxe is to a voyager. That logic doesn't work.

Also, he clearly stated Japanese retailers. Two "major" Japanese retailers, AmiAmi & HLJ, both sold Bee for under $50.

This is fine. The CJ you're so sore about will happen eventually & be better than Bee with a new head.