Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1
Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 7:36PM CST
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It's that time of the year, a special day of celebration and the gathering of friends and family! No, not Christmas. Not even Thanksgiving. It's time for a brand new Machinima Transformers animated series!
Yaaaaaay
While I don't hold the original Combiner Wars series in very high regard, I have (potentially blind) hope in it's sequel, Titans Return. Is it Good? Is it bad? Well, pull up a chair, slice some turkey, and pour yourself a tall glass of your strongest Energon, because we're about to dive into the first episode of Machinima's Transformers Titans Return.
("Spoilers" for Machinima's Combiner Wars Series below. If you missed out on that series, I slightly envy you, but I recommend going and reading my reviews for that series, despite some broken images.)
We open on a wide shot of Cybertron, with a general recap (which sounds like it’s potentially narrated by the original G1 cartoon narrator?) of the previous series to get us back up to speed. It briefly runs through the past 8 episodes, and does a good enough job of getting all the important info in there. We get reminded of the cliffhanger(?) In the last show, of Fortress Maximus' face, with a slightly ham-fisted "The Titans have returned" from Windblade overdubbed.
Roll credits! *ding*
After a slightly overly-fancy title logo sequence, we finally get to the new content.
Well, that's half the budget gone, right there.
It cuts to Starscream's mangled body on the side of a mountain. We actually spend a considerable amount of time with Starscream's ghost this episode, which is a nice call-back to the original cartoon. He's just realizing he perished in the previous battle, indicating that this is taking place very shortly after the end of the previous series, perhaps even the next morning. We immediately get another title card, this time with the title of the episode, "Aftermath and Rebirth". That's right, "Rebirth". Pretty confident that's a bad omen.
Because with a name like "Rebirth", it has to be good.
We next see the Constructicons cleaning up Cybertron after the battle. We even see them individually (!), some even in robot mode (!!), and one even talks(!!!), which is a big deal in this series, as it couldn't make up it's mind last time around if it wanted the combiners to be made of individual robots, or just one large entity and even a seperate race from the rest of the characters. They get some help from the other Combiners, with some awkward dialogue thrown in for good measure. We're then reintroduced to two of the main characters from the previous show, Optimus Prime and the Mistress of Flame. Optimus Prime is now voiced by Peter Cullen, the, uh, OP OP, shall we say.
We have to address the Mistress' performance here, because it's not great. Robotic, static, and near emotionless for most of her dialogue in this scene, it’s rather jarring throughout. Windblade chooses this moment to arrive, shocked that Optimus is leaving so soon. Windblade seems to have a complete tonal shift from the previous series, being more of an indifferent young girl with little emotion here than her previous "I hate everything and everyone all the time" character. This, too, is an extremely jarring change, and it makes the dialogue slam to a halt, feeling clunky and badly timed from here on.
okayniceknowingyoubai
So, then, uh, Metroplex appears. Just out of the ground. Yeah. Like that, with very little ado. The city splits open and Metroplex climbs out, which is disappointing, as I think he should be the city itself. I feel like this would have made more of an impact anyway, with buildings starting to move and finally form into this giant robot. She very quickly accepts Prime leaving without much convincing required, and departs with the most awkward line so far and a bizarre transformation sequence that completely feels like filler. Prime leaves, saying goodbye to the Mistress of Flame, and then driving away. He then comes back, sits there in truck mode for a couple beats too long, honks at her, and then drives away the opposite direction. This is the only part I laughed out loud at, just because the pacing is SO ridiculous.
Oh, uh, crap, I drove the wrong way. How do I turn around without making this awkward? Oh, I'll just honk at her then drive the opposite direction. There. Nailed it.
We see a quick cameo shot of Megatron, overlooking the previous characters, and then we move on. Rodimus is dropped off at the home of the 13 Primes by one of Victorion's Helicopters (yay more individual combiner personalities!) to return the Matrix of leadership. Is it just me, or is nothing in this scene understandable? Judd Nelson's voice over in particular is so poorly mixed with the Music (which by itself is too loud), and the 13 Primes have this layered voice effect that makes it so you just can't understand anything any of them say. We get another filler transformation shot of Hot Rod after he's given back the matrix, and then we get the final scenes of Episode One:
While this was all happening, the Gods take Starscream to the hollowed out remains of Trypticon, who actually fills his city role, unlike Metroplex. The gods make Starscream embody the large titan, and give him new life. On a distant hill, Perceptor is meeting with Windblade. He's voiced by Wil Weaton and, uh, he has a large head.
Where else is he going to fit all that science?
He's in the middle of analyzing Starscream's remains, when they both see Trypticon forming in the distance. That's right, while sort of dumping most of their cards on the table, Trypticon makes a fully fledged appearance. With a mighty roar, he brings episode one of Titans Return to an end.
Woahh, slow it down, guys, it's only the first episode.
So, is it bad? I'd argue no. The extended length of the episodes (12 minutes instead of 6-7) makes for a much easier ride, but at the same time, you get some odd pacing issues and some filler shots. You can tell the producers weren't really sure what to do with the extra time in some areas.
The animation finally improves, on many fronts. In fact, the recap of the previous show at the beginning of this episode illustrates that perfectly. You get a taste of that jerky animation and those completely unsynched voice movements and you can see instantly how much better those are here. Over all it makes it so much more enjoyable when those factors aren't constantly annoying you. I'd honestly say the worst part of this is the voice acting, which does not bode well for the show as the VA was by far the best part about it's preceding series. At least, despite her wanting to kill everyone, Windblade had believable emotion and frustration in at least her voice. Here, like I said before, she seems indifferent to everything that's going on.
It just feels like three steps forward, and then a step back.
So that's my take on episode 1 of this new series. If you want to watch it for yourself, you can over on Go90. These reviews are going to be longer as the episodes themselves are almost double what they previously were. What did you think of the episode? What did you think of my review? Let me know down in the comments, and stick around for my review of Episode 2, which also premiered today. Some questions get answered, but even more are asked.
Thanks for reading, and keep your optics and audio sensors tuned to Seibertron.com!
Yaaaaaay
While I don't hold the original Combiner Wars series in very high regard, I have (potentially blind) hope in it's sequel, Titans Return. Is it Good? Is it bad? Well, pull up a chair, slice some turkey, and pour yourself a tall glass of your strongest Energon, because we're about to dive into the first episode of Machinima's Transformers Titans Return.
("Spoilers" for Machinima's Combiner Wars Series below. If you missed out on that series, I slightly envy you, but I recommend going and reading my reviews for that series, despite some broken images.)
We open on a wide shot of Cybertron, with a general recap (which sounds like it’s potentially narrated by the original G1 cartoon narrator?) of the previous series to get us back up to speed. It briefly runs through the past 8 episodes, and does a good enough job of getting all the important info in there. We get reminded of the cliffhanger(?) In the last show, of Fortress Maximus' face, with a slightly ham-fisted "The Titans have returned" from Windblade overdubbed.
Roll credits! *ding*
After a slightly overly-fancy title logo sequence, we finally get to the new content.
Well, that's half the budget gone, right there.
It cuts to Starscream's mangled body on the side of a mountain. We actually spend a considerable amount of time with Starscream's ghost this episode, which is a nice call-back to the original cartoon. He's just realizing he perished in the previous battle, indicating that this is taking place very shortly after the end of the previous series, perhaps even the next morning. We immediately get another title card, this time with the title of the episode, "Aftermath and Rebirth". That's right, "Rebirth". Pretty confident that's a bad omen.
Because with a name like "Rebirth", it has to be good.
We next see the Constructicons cleaning up Cybertron after the battle. We even see them individually (!), some even in robot mode (!!), and one even talks(!!!), which is a big deal in this series, as it couldn't make up it's mind last time around if it wanted the combiners to be made of individual robots, or just one large entity and even a seperate race from the rest of the characters. They get some help from the other Combiners, with some awkward dialogue thrown in for good measure. We're then reintroduced to two of the main characters from the previous show, Optimus Prime and the Mistress of Flame. Optimus Prime is now voiced by Peter Cullen, the, uh, OP OP, shall we say.
We have to address the Mistress' performance here, because it's not great. Robotic, static, and near emotionless for most of her dialogue in this scene, it’s rather jarring throughout. Windblade chooses this moment to arrive, shocked that Optimus is leaving so soon. Windblade seems to have a complete tonal shift from the previous series, being more of an indifferent young girl with little emotion here than her previous "I hate everything and everyone all the time" character. This, too, is an extremely jarring change, and it makes the dialogue slam to a halt, feeling clunky and badly timed from here on.
okayniceknowingyoubai
So, then, uh, Metroplex appears. Just out of the ground. Yeah. Like that, with very little ado. The city splits open and Metroplex climbs out, which is disappointing, as I think he should be the city itself. I feel like this would have made more of an impact anyway, with buildings starting to move and finally form into this giant robot. She very quickly accepts Prime leaving without much convincing required, and departs with the most awkward line so far and a bizarre transformation sequence that completely feels like filler. Prime leaves, saying goodbye to the Mistress of Flame, and then driving away. He then comes back, sits there in truck mode for a couple beats too long, honks at her, and then drives away the opposite direction. This is the only part I laughed out loud at, just because the pacing is SO ridiculous.
Oh, uh, crap, I drove the wrong way. How do I turn around without making this awkward? Oh, I'll just honk at her then drive the opposite direction. There. Nailed it.
We see a quick cameo shot of Megatron, overlooking the previous characters, and then we move on. Rodimus is dropped off at the home of the 13 Primes by one of Victorion's Helicopters (yay more individual combiner personalities!) to return the Matrix of leadership. Is it just me, or is nothing in this scene understandable? Judd Nelson's voice over in particular is so poorly mixed with the Music (which by itself is too loud), and the 13 Primes have this layered voice effect that makes it so you just can't understand anything any of them say. We get another filler transformation shot of Hot Rod after he's given back the matrix, and then we get the final scenes of Episode One:
While this was all happening, the Gods take Starscream to the hollowed out remains of Trypticon, who actually fills his city role, unlike Metroplex. The gods make Starscream embody the large titan, and give him new life. On a distant hill, Perceptor is meeting with Windblade. He's voiced by Wil Weaton and, uh, he has a large head.
Where else is he going to fit all that science?
He's in the middle of analyzing Starscream's remains, when they both see Trypticon forming in the distance. That's right, while sort of dumping most of their cards on the table, Trypticon makes a fully fledged appearance. With a mighty roar, he brings episode one of Titans Return to an end.
Woahh, slow it down, guys, it's only the first episode.
So, is it bad? I'd argue no. The extended length of the episodes (12 minutes instead of 6-7) makes for a much easier ride, but at the same time, you get some odd pacing issues and some filler shots. You can tell the producers weren't really sure what to do with the extra time in some areas.
The animation finally improves, on many fronts. In fact, the recap of the previous show at the beginning of this episode illustrates that perfectly. You get a taste of that jerky animation and those completely unsynched voice movements and you can see instantly how much better those are here. Over all it makes it so much more enjoyable when those factors aren't constantly annoying you. I'd honestly say the worst part of this is the voice acting, which does not bode well for the show as the VA was by far the best part about it's preceding series. At least, despite her wanting to kill everyone, Windblade had believable emotion and frustration in at least her voice. Here, like I said before, she seems indifferent to everything that's going on.
It just feels like three steps forward, and then a step back.
So that's my take on episode 1 of this new series. If you want to watch it for yourself, you can over on Go90. These reviews are going to be longer as the episodes themselves are almost double what they previously were. What did you think of the episode? What did you think of my review? Let me know down in the comments, and stick around for my review of Episode 2, which also premiered today. Some questions get answered, but even more are asked.
Thanks for reading, and keep your optics and audio sensors tuned to Seibertron.com!
Credit(s): Go90
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Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921758)
Posted by RodimusRex on November 14th, 2017 @ 9:31pm CST
My memory of Combiner Wars is hazy but my impression is that it's been at least a few decades since the war ended... and this episode made note of how Metroplex was decommissioned a long time ago during the war.
Could be as much as 100 million years since the second Golden Age started, I suppose, given Starscream claiming to be 108 million years old.
Most timelines place the creation of the Transformers at 8-12 million years before present day.
Posted by RodimusRex on November 14th, 2017 @ 9:31pm CST
Burn wrote:One thing I find really odd.
"We need to find fighters". So ... that city Trypticon is stomping on is inhabited by a bunch of civilians? The war just ended, do they expect me to believe it's either empty (with the lights on) or populated with Cybertronians that don't know how to fight?
My memory of Combiner Wars is hazy but my impression is that it's been at least a few decades since the war ended... and this episode made note of how Metroplex was decommissioned a long time ago during the war.
Could be as much as 100 million years since the second Golden Age started, I suppose, given Starscream claiming to be 108 million years old.
Most timelines place the creation of the Transformers at 8-12 million years before present day.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921781)
Posted by Windsweeper on November 15th, 2017 @ 4:58am CST
Posted by Windsweeper on November 15th, 2017 @ 4:58am CST
I have to say I don't quite agree with this review.
I thought Mistress of Flame and Starscream's voice acting was improved though Starscream isn't perfect. I thought MOF's voice acting suited her personality which strikes me as somewhat reserved.
I liked Wil Wheaton as Perceptor. He sounded less overbearing than his G1 self.
I will agree about the sound when Rodimus first meets the Primes though I still enjoyed the scene.
It was nice to see Long Haul get a line at least. Though seeing Menasor made me cringe. While he's always been my favourite Decepticon Combiner and the scene fitted his character, I was bracing myself expecting him to say something in that cringy voice from Combiner Wars.
Combiner Wars was a guilty pleasure of mine and it improved greatly with the introduction of Megatron. I'm well aware of it's faults, the one consistency in all Transformers series regrettably, but I still liked it overall.
I have looked forward to Titans Return and so far I've enjoyed the first two episodes. I think the creators have genuinely tried to improve from Combiner Wars and so far, to me at least, they have.
I'm still sceptical about Menasor's voice given that was the worst part of CW and I'm not happy to see his va return. It ruined my favourite Combiner for me.
I am looking forward to the next episodes.
I thought Mistress of Flame and Starscream's voice acting was improved though Starscream isn't perfect. I thought MOF's voice acting suited her personality which strikes me as somewhat reserved.
I liked Wil Wheaton as Perceptor. He sounded less overbearing than his G1 self.
I will agree about the sound when Rodimus first meets the Primes though I still enjoyed the scene.
It was nice to see Long Haul get a line at least. Though seeing Menasor made me cringe. While he's always been my favourite Decepticon Combiner and the scene fitted his character, I was bracing myself expecting him to say something in that cringy voice from Combiner Wars.
Combiner Wars was a guilty pleasure of mine and it improved greatly with the introduction of Megatron. I'm well aware of it's faults, the one consistency in all Transformers series regrettably, but I still liked it overall.
I have looked forward to Titans Return and so far I've enjoyed the first two episodes. I think the creators have genuinely tried to improve from Combiner Wars and so far, to me at least, they have.
I'm still sceptical about Menasor's voice given that was the worst part of CW and I'm not happy to see his va return. It ruined my favourite Combiner for me.
I am looking forward to the next episodes.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921785)
Posted by Va'al on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:34am CST
Posted by Va'al on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:34am CST
You should be aware by now that the second animated series from Hasbro and Machinima featuring the Transformers, Titans Return, is being released in the US on the go90 app platform - and surely soon to follow for non-US viewers by other means, like its predecessor Combiner Wars. Our review of the first episode can be read here, and a review of the second will be making its way to the front page later today, too.
With that covered, you may want some more behind the scenes material, and Collider is here to provide the content - namely, an interview conducted and coordinated via Twitter with the voice of Optimus Prime, Peter Cullen, returning to the franchise once more after the live-action movies and the animated shows Robots in Disguise and Rescue Bots. Check out some selected parts below, and read the whole piece here - which touches on a lot more than Titans Return, but always in a Peter Cullen and Optimus Prime shape!
With that covered, you may want some more behind the scenes material, and Collider is here to provide the content - namely, an interview conducted and coordinated via Twitter with the voice of Optimus Prime, Peter Cullen, returning to the franchise once more after the live-action movies and the animated shows Robots in Disguise and Rescue Bots. Check out some selected parts below, and read the whole piece here - which touches on a lot more than Titans Return, but always in a Peter Cullen and Optimus Prime shape!
It’s impossible to separate you from Optimus Prime, having voiced the character for over 30 years, but looking into the far-off future, what would make you step away from voicing Optimus?
Cullen: Yeah, well that’s been done before. I’ve already rehearsed that scene. [laughs] I’ve only done five movies since then, so it’s not like we’re talking, in terms of expansive years, since 1986, I’ve done a few games, Machinima, the second series now with them. Other than that, it’s been a very frugal way of making a living as Optimus Prime. What’s in store for him, I don’t know. But I’m not willing to give it up as long as it’s popular and people care for it. I would respect that part and continue on without much debate. But whether or he’s going to? I don’t know. I can’t speak for the multitude of people who are behind the steering wheel of this huge machine. If it all goes well, I’ll be doing it for years to come!
What was his reaction to being approached to play Optimus prime
Cullen: Elation, because I had waited a couple of weeks, which is not uncommon when you’re auditioning for a series and when they inform you that you have that role or that part. But more to the point, I had no idea who Optimus Prime was outside of the small audition that I did. In those days, back in the 80s, we were constantly doing cartoons, Frank Welker and I. We would meet at auditions sometimes or end up on a show and say, “Hey! You got a gig? So did I! That’s great!” That’s how we met by the way. Over the years, you try to add up all those feelings and say, “What actually happened?”
I remember the audition, I remember doing an impersonation of my brother who was a Marine, and heeding his advice, not to be an a-hole. Be real, don’t be Hollywood, that kind of thing. An audition that lasted perhaps a few minutes ended up changing my world, my life. That character has affected many different people’s lives in many different ways; I’m always overwhelmed by that, humbled by it, to tell you the truth.
[...]
What’s his favorite moment or scene as Optimus
Cullen: I would probably have least-favorite scenes. [laughs] I would include, the most important one, when I did the death scene. The other ones are doing all the screaming, yelling, blood-throat scenes; those are my least favorite. My most favorite scenes, which they don’t do enough, are when he’s written to express compassion and understanding. They never really want to express that level of Prime, which I thought was his most important, valuable trait.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921786)
Posted by Va'al on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:34am CST
Posted by Va'al on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:34am CST
You should be aware by now that the second animated series from Hasbro and Machinima featuring the Transformers, Titans Return, is being released in the US on the go90 app platform - and surely soon to follow for non-US viewers by other means, like its predecessor Combiner Wars. Our review of the first episode can be read here, and a review of the second will be making its way to the front page later today, too.
With that covered, you may want some more behind the scenes material, and Collider is here to provide the content - namely, an interview conducted and coordinated via Twitter with the voice of Optimus Prime, Peter Cullen, returning to the franchise once more after the live-action movies and the animated shows Robots in Disguise and Rescue Bots. Check out some selected parts below, and read the whole piece here - which touches on a lot more than Titans Return, but always in a Peter Cullen and Optimus Prime shape!
With that covered, you may want some more behind the scenes material, and Collider is here to provide the content - namely, an interview conducted and coordinated via Twitter with the voice of Optimus Prime, Peter Cullen, returning to the franchise once more after the live-action movies and the animated shows Robots in Disguise and Rescue Bots. Check out some selected parts below, and read the whole piece here - which touches on a lot more than Titans Return, but always in a Peter Cullen and Optimus Prime shape!
It’s impossible to separate you from Optimus Prime, having voiced the character for over 30 years, but looking into the far-off future, what would make you step away from voicing Optimus?
Cullen: Yeah, well that’s been done before. I’ve already rehearsed that scene. [laughs] I’ve only done five movies since then, so it’s not like we’re talking, in terms of expansive years, since 1986, I’ve done a few games, Machinima, the second series now with them. Other than that, it’s been a very frugal way of making a living as Optimus Prime. What’s in store for him, I don’t know. But I’m not willing to give it up as long as it’s popular and people care for it. I would respect that part and continue on without much debate. But whether or he’s going to? I don’t know. I can’t speak for the multitude of people who are behind the steering wheel of this huge machine. If it all goes well, I’ll be doing it for years to come!
What was his reaction to being approached to play Optimus prime
Cullen: Elation, because I had waited a couple of weeks, which is not uncommon when you’re auditioning for a series and when they inform you that you have that role or that part. But more to the point, I had no idea who Optimus Prime was outside of the small audition that I did. In those days, back in the 80s, we were constantly doing cartoons, Frank Welker and I. We would meet at auditions sometimes or end up on a show and say, “Hey! You got a gig? So did I! That’s great!” That’s how we met by the way. Over the years, you try to add up all those feelings and say, “What actually happened?”
I remember the audition, I remember doing an impersonation of my brother who was a Marine, and heeding his advice, not to be an a-hole. Be real, don’t be Hollywood, that kind of thing. An audition that lasted perhaps a few minutes ended up changing my world, my life. That character has affected many different people’s lives in many different ways; I’m always overwhelmed by that, humbled by it, to tell you the truth.
[...]
What’s his favorite moment or scene as Optimus
Cullen: I would probably have least-favorite scenes. [laughs] I would include, the most important one, when I did the death scene. The other ones are doing all the screaming, yelling, blood-throat scenes; those are my least favorite. My most favorite scenes, which they don’t do enough, are when he’s written to express compassion and understanding. They never really want to express that level of Prime, which I thought was his most important, valuable trait.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921789)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:09am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:09am CST
Double post ^
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921790)
Posted by Kroenen on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:38am CST
Posted by Kroenen on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:38am CST
Really says a lot when even the voice of Optimus is telling you that the aggression needs to be toned down. I agree wholeheartedly. I haven’t seen a truly compassionate side of Optimus in years. I hope that, should Peter be signed on for Cyberverse, they write him with a more gentler side.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921791)
Posted by Hydrargyrus on November 15th, 2017 @ 9:22am CST
Posted by Hydrargyrus on November 15th, 2017 @ 9:22am CST
I think it’s pretty cool that he really loves voicing Prime.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921792)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 15th, 2017 @ 9:27am CST
Not really what he said.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 15th, 2017 @ 9:27am CST
Kroenen wrote:Really says a lot when even the voice of Optimus is telling you that the aggression needs to be toned down.
Not really what he said.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921796)
Posted by o.supreme on November 15th, 2017 @ 10:42am CST
The entirety of the Original Transformers character Library, other than the few you see on screen are apparently off world on missions. (IRL-Budget)
But Hey, Seeing Tundecracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, and um..miscellaneous seeker (I know it probably has a name, but if it wasn't named in the original series I would not know it) crash & burn to their deaths was cool I guess...
Posted by o.supreme on November 15th, 2017 @ 10:42am CST
Burn wrote:One thing I find really odd.
"We need to find fighters".
The entirety of the Original Transformers character Library, other than the few you see on screen are apparently off world on missions. (IRL-Budget)
But Hey, Seeing Tundecracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, and um..miscellaneous seeker (I know it probably has a name, but if it wasn't named in the original series I would not know it) crash & burn to their deaths was cool I guess...
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921842)
Posted by Qwan on November 15th, 2017 @ 3:33pm CST
Posted by Qwan on November 15th, 2017 @ 3:33pm CST
And the episodes still aren't up in any official capacity for the rest of us non-USians to watch, as far as I'm aware. Machinima, mates, if you're gonna make an exclusivity deal with a service that only works in the US, maybe you should also find a way for the entire rest of the world to watch it too without resorting to piracy. Come on now. 
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921845)
Posted by Burn on November 15th, 2017 @ 3:57pm CST
It's not piracy if it's on YouTube.
Besides, you're Australian, we're the biggest digital pirates in the world.
Posted by Burn on November 15th, 2017 @ 3:57pm CST
Qwan wrote:And the episodes still aren't up in any official capacity for the rest of us non-USians to watch, as far as I'm aware. Machinima, mates, if you're gonna make an exclusivity deal with a service that only works in the US, maybe you should also find a way for the entire rest of the world to watch it too without resorting to piracy. Come on now.
It's not piracy if it's on YouTube.
Besides, you're Australian, we're the biggest digital pirates in the world.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921849)
Posted by Qwan on November 15th, 2017 @ 4:21pm CST
Oh believe me, if it wasn't technically against the forum rules, I could go on for hours listing all the shows I totally should've paid for and maybe didn't actually do so. I'm quite a firm believer that a series should earn my money before it receives it
But suffice to say, I had been waiting for them to go up officially on Machinima's Youtube or something, but given the situation at this point I will be watching the first two episodes of Titans Return this afternoon. Draw your conclusions.
Posted by Qwan on November 15th, 2017 @ 4:21pm CST
Burn wrote:Qwan wrote:And the episodes still aren't up in any official capacity for the rest of us non-USians to watch, as far as I'm aware. Machinima, mates, if you're gonna make an exclusivity deal with a service that only works in the US, maybe you should also find a way for the entire rest of the world to watch it too without resorting to piracy. Come on now.
It's not piracy if it's on YouTube.
Besides, you're Australian, we're the biggest digital pirates in the world.
Oh believe me, if it wasn't technically against the forum rules, I could go on for hours listing all the shows I totally should've paid for and maybe didn't actually do so. I'm quite a firm believer that a series should earn my money before it receives it
But suffice to say, I had been waiting for them to go up officially on Machinima's Youtube or something, but given the situation at this point I will be watching the first two episodes of Titans Return this afternoon. Draw your conclusions.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921855)
Posted by Kroenen on November 15th, 2017 @ 4:51pm CST
Maybe not directly, but you can tell he doesn't like playing hyper-aggressive with Optimus. I think he's even mentioned this in other interviews. Saying stuff like "I'll kill you" is clearly betraying who Peter believes Optimus should be.
That's not to say Bayverse Prime is bad or anything (or that Peter's view is the only valid one), just that he clearly isn't comfortable with the direction it's taken.
Posted by Kroenen on November 15th, 2017 @ 4:51pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kroenen wrote:Really says a lot when even the voice of Optimus is telling you that the aggression needs to be toned down.
Not really what he said.
Maybe not directly, but you can tell he doesn't like playing hyper-aggressive with Optimus. I think he's even mentioned this in other interviews. Saying stuff like "I'll kill you" is clearly betraying who Peter believes Optimus should be.
That's not to say Bayverse Prime is bad or anything (or that Peter's view is the only valid one), just that he clearly isn't comfortable with the direction it's taken.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921856)
Posted by Burn on November 15th, 2017 @ 4:58pm CST
As long as you don't provide links to downloads of stuff that's available commercially, it's all good.
And you're more than welcome to discuss whatever you watch, that's what General Discussion is for ... people really should take a look at it, it has lots of cool stuff!
Posted by Burn on November 15th, 2017 @ 4:58pm CST
Qwan wrote:Oh believe me, if it wasn't technically against the forum rules, I could go on for hours listing all the shows I totally should've paid for and maybe didn't actually do so. I'm quite a firm believer that a series should earn my money before it receives it
As long as you don't provide links to downloads of stuff that's available commercially, it's all good.
And you're more than welcome to discuss whatever you watch, that's what General Discussion is for ... people really should take a look at it, it has lots of cool stuff!
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921859)
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:14pm CST
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:14pm CST
The first two episodes of the Machinima Titans Return series premiered yesterday, picking up where the previous Combiner Wars series left off. We've already broken down Episode 1, and it, surprisingly, was not bad. So now it is time to turn the spotlight to Episode 2, "Our Heroes Respond". Let's just jump right in to it, shall we?
After being welcomed again by the overly-fancy title sequence, we find Windblade where we left her last episode, meditating with the newly reawakened Metroplex.
Meditating with Metroplex, coincidentally, is my favorite holistic workout tape
During the mind-meld session, we get the lore of this version of Cybertron built out for us in the form of Metroplex telling Windblade his story and the purpose of the Titans overall. We actually learn quite a bit of useful backstory here, and I think it was executed very well. Not overly exposition-filled, and it succeeded in fleshing out the world quite a bit.
Narrationformers! Exposition in Disguise!
They both finally realize Trypticon has also risen, and Metroplex volunteers himself to go and defend Cybertron again after all those years. Windblade is opposed to this, as Metroplex is in no state to go and do battle with another Titan (even though we haven't seen, and won't see, these supposed injuries she mentions).
Scrud? Is...is that what she said? Does...does she mean Scrap? I've got nothing.
In trying to find another solution, she again goes to see Perceptor in his lab, who's currently studying some of the samples he's collected from Starscream's corpse. She discusses with him Trypticon returning, and the best course of action to stop him from continuing to tear the city apart. My biggest issue with this scene is just some of the animation feels really clunky. Like Windblade looking around Perceptor's lab looks like a video game cut scene. It just kind of pulls you out of the narrative.
They decide to take their case to the Mistress of Flame who, in turn, sends the "Eilte Air Resistance Squadron" to hold Trypticon off. These, we find out, are the seekers. The pretty much instantly die, which is unfortunate, as it would have been interesting to see them cope with Starscream going AWOL. There was also a chance to have an interesting subplot about how Starscream doesn't really want to kill his former comrades, but whatever piece of Trypticon is still within the shell of the giant titan takes him over and makes him do it. I consider that a missed opportunity.
While this is all happening, the Mistress of Flame discovers that Hot Rod has given up the Matrix when they needed it most, and for the first time so far in the series, we can hear Judd Nelson.
Heyyy, that's better!
It's nice to hear the original voice of Roddy return, and I think, while Judd Nelson is obviously older than he was when he originally did the voice for Hot Rod, it still feels the same. He does a great job.
Hot Rod says he'll come and help fight off Trypticon, just as Metroplex starts to move toward the oncoming Kaiju. We do get some nice action scenes here (None with Metroplex and Trypticon yet), and it's pretty much the best part of the episode. Perceptor makes a hint that he will go find Fortress Maximus to help in the battle, which again feels like they're dumping all their material in the first episodes, but we'll see. With a threat like they've never seen before just on the Horizon, Episode 2 ends.
Overall, I think the biggest issue was timing/pacing. There were lines here and there that waited a couple beats too long to be delivered, didn't have the right emotion or movement tied to them, and so on. It's a good episode, certainly better than a lot in Combiner Wars, but it feels underwhelming. It's not good enough to walk away with a sense of "Oh, that was amazing!" and it's not bad enough to be entertainingly so. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather it be the good than bad, but it felt like it just needed to move along a bit quicker. Anyway, that's my take on the (so far) enjoyable first two episodes of the Machinima Titans Return series. I'll be here with another review next Tuesday, when Episode three premiers over on Go90. Thanks for joining me, and thanks for reading Seibertron.com! See you next week!
After being welcomed again by the overly-fancy title sequence, we find Windblade where we left her last episode, meditating with the newly reawakened Metroplex.
Meditating with Metroplex, coincidentally, is my favorite holistic workout tape
During the mind-meld session, we get the lore of this version of Cybertron built out for us in the form of Metroplex telling Windblade his story and the purpose of the Titans overall. We actually learn quite a bit of useful backstory here, and I think it was executed very well. Not overly exposition-filled, and it succeeded in fleshing out the world quite a bit.
Narrationformers! Exposition in Disguise!
They both finally realize Trypticon has also risen, and Metroplex volunteers himself to go and defend Cybertron again after all those years. Windblade is opposed to this, as Metroplex is in no state to go and do battle with another Titan (even though we haven't seen, and won't see, these supposed injuries she mentions).
Scrud? Is...is that what she said? Does...does she mean Scrap? I've got nothing.
In trying to find another solution, she again goes to see Perceptor in his lab, who's currently studying some of the samples he's collected from Starscream's corpse. She discusses with him Trypticon returning, and the best course of action to stop him from continuing to tear the city apart. My biggest issue with this scene is just some of the animation feels really clunky. Like Windblade looking around Perceptor's lab looks like a video game cut scene. It just kind of pulls you out of the narrative.
They decide to take their case to the Mistress of Flame who, in turn, sends the "Eilte Air Resistance Squadron" to hold Trypticon off. These, we find out, are the seekers. The pretty much instantly die, which is unfortunate, as it would have been interesting to see them cope with Starscream going AWOL. There was also a chance to have an interesting subplot about how Starscream doesn't really want to kill his former comrades, but whatever piece of Trypticon is still within the shell of the giant titan takes him over and makes him do it. I consider that a missed opportunity.
While this is all happening, the Mistress of Flame discovers that Hot Rod has given up the Matrix when they needed it most, and for the first time so far in the series, we can hear Judd Nelson.
Heyyy, that's better!
It's nice to hear the original voice of Roddy return, and I think, while Judd Nelson is obviously older than he was when he originally did the voice for Hot Rod, it still feels the same. He does a great job.
Hot Rod says he'll come and help fight off Trypticon, just as Metroplex starts to move toward the oncoming Kaiju. We do get some nice action scenes here (None with Metroplex and Trypticon yet), and it's pretty much the best part of the episode. Perceptor makes a hint that he will go find Fortress Maximus to help in the battle, which again feels like they're dumping all their material in the first episodes, but we'll see. With a threat like they've never seen before just on the Horizon, Episode 2 ends.
Overall, I think the biggest issue was timing/pacing. There were lines here and there that waited a couple beats too long to be delivered, didn't have the right emotion or movement tied to them, and so on. It's a good episode, certainly better than a lot in Combiner Wars, but it feels underwhelming. It's not good enough to walk away with a sense of "Oh, that was amazing!" and it's not bad enough to be entertainingly so. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather it be the good than bad, but it felt like it just needed to move along a bit quicker. Anyway, that's my take on the (so far) enjoyable first two episodes of the Machinima Titans Return series. I'll be here with another review next Tuesday, when Episode three premiers over on Go90. Thanks for joining me, and thanks for reading Seibertron.com! See you next week!
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921863)
Posted by Deadput on November 15th, 2017 @ 6:14pm CST
Posted by Deadput on November 15th, 2017 @ 6:14pm CST
Lol at the Seekers, did they at least get any lines?
This is better then CW but in the same way it's better to stub your toe then to lose your whole foot, you literately see and hear how much little effort was put in by Hasbro if they funded the show at all, I bet this series only exists in a failed attempt to keep the fan boys satisfied about making the best Adult Transformers show for them.
This is better then CW but in the same way it's better to stub your toe then to lose your whole foot, you literately see and hear how much little effort was put in by Hasbro if they funded the show at all, I bet this series only exists in a failed attempt to keep the fan boys satisfied about making the best Adult Transformers show for them.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921867)
Posted by Hydrargyrus on November 15th, 2017 @ 6:58pm CST
I try not to point out grammar mistakes online, but this is just hilarious when taken literally and out of context.
Also, what do you think about the characterization of combiners across the whole franchise? Except for the toy bios, I feel that characters like the Stunticons and Aerialbots have kind of just been collective entities.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on November 15th, 2017 @ 6:58pm CST
Deadput wrote:it's better to stub your toe then to lose your whole foot.
I try not to point out grammar mistakes online, but this is just hilarious when taken literally and out of context.
Also, what do you think about the characterization of combiners across the whole franchise? Except for the toy bios, I feel that characters like the Stunticons and Aerialbots have kind of just been collective entities.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921871)
Posted by Whifflefire on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:13pm CST
Posted by Whifflefire on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:13pm CST
Okay, got around to watching the episodes.
I was pleasantly surprised that the constructicons and Stormclash made individual appearances, as it means that the combiners are still able to become individuals, though other than Long Haul's "Hey!" I wouldn't bet on any more of them speaking.
It was a little jarring at first hearing Perceptor speak without a British accent, but he turned out to otherwise be the most faithful to his original counterpart. The visible legs on the back of his head lead me to believe we'll see some characters become headmasters. Or Perceptor is just a closet headmaster.
Starscream's scenes were almost entertaining, and while it's neat that they're revisiting Starscream's ghost, I doubt they'll discuss a mutant, immortal spark, nor whoever/whatever was controlling his spiritual journey to Trypticon. I'd bet it will probably be Scorponok.
While I never minded the animation, the voice direction is severely underperforming. Characters do take too long to respond and react to almost anything. Mistress of Flame in particular. I was relieved to find that the Rodimus/Primes scene was not just a problem with my computer's audio. I like Nelson's Hot Rod voice, and though his reasons for declining the Matrix seemed forced, I look forward to more of him.
All in all, not the best start, but I suppose not the worst either. As long as the character dynamics become more cohesive, and the action remains good and fitting with the story, it will be worth it.
I was pleasantly surprised that the constructicons and Stormclash made individual appearances, as it means that the combiners are still able to become individuals, though other than Long Haul's "Hey!" I wouldn't bet on any more of them speaking.
It was a little jarring at first hearing Perceptor speak without a British accent, but he turned out to otherwise be the most faithful to his original counterpart. The visible legs on the back of his head lead me to believe we'll see some characters become headmasters. Or Perceptor is just a closet headmaster.
Starscream's scenes were almost entertaining, and while it's neat that they're revisiting Starscream's ghost, I doubt they'll discuss a mutant, immortal spark, nor whoever/whatever was controlling his spiritual journey to Trypticon. I'd bet it will probably be Scorponok.
While I never minded the animation, the voice direction is severely underperforming. Characters do take too long to respond and react to almost anything. Mistress of Flame in particular. I was relieved to find that the Rodimus/Primes scene was not just a problem with my computer's audio. I like Nelson's Hot Rod voice, and though his reasons for declining the Matrix seemed forced, I look forward to more of him.
All in all, not the best start, but I suppose not the worst either. As long as the character dynamics become more cohesive, and the action remains good and fitting with the story, it will be worth it.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921873)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:20pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:20pm CST
Did everybody here just forget that Scrapper, Scavenger, and Long Haul all appeared individually before back in Megatron's debut episode in Combiner Wars? Their reappearance here in episode 1 of Titans Return isn't some revolutionary thing. It's just Machinima recycling the same three Constructicon character models that they had already used before.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921876)
Posted by Whifflefire on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:45pm CST
True, but CW left it ambiguous if, once combined, the components retained individuality or became bonded permanently. The constructicons' reappearance proves that the individual 'bots are still there (though we'll probably never see them).
Posted by Whifflefire on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:45pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Did everybody here just forget that Scrapper, Scavenger, and Long Haul all appeared individually before back in Megatron's debut episode in Combiner Wars? Their reappearance here in episode 1 of Titans Return isn't some revolutionary thing. It's just Machinima recycling the same three Constructicon character models that they had already used before.
True, but CW left it ambiguous if, once combined, the components retained individuality or became bonded permanently. The constructicons' reappearance proves that the individual 'bots are still there (though we'll probably never see them).
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921881)
Posted by Deadput on November 15th, 2017 @ 9:00pm CST
Yeah combiners as a whole don't get much characterization, I don't mind for the actual combined forms themselves since I view them more as living weapons then their own individuals although I personally like how some Combiners have different problems compared to others such as Menasor being a complete monster while Computron just takes a long time because he is too smart.
For component most of them suffer from a lack of character hell sometimes some random component gets more character then the leader of the team (First Aid to Hot Spot) (Breakdown to Motormaster) etc.
Still doesn't change my opinion on how much Combiners just..suck in this series and it's kinda ironic that they are getting more "development" in Titans Return then in their own show.
Posted by Deadput on November 15th, 2017 @ 9:00pm CST
MagicDeath wrote:Deadput wrote:it's better to stub your toe then to lose your whole foot.
I try not to point out grammar mistakes online, but this is just hilarious when taken literally and out of context.
Also, what do you think about the characterization of combiners across the whole franchise? Except for the toy bios, I feel that characters like the Stunticons and Aerialbots have kind of just been collective entities.
Yeah combiners as a whole don't get much characterization, I don't mind for the actual combined forms themselves since I view them more as living weapons then their own individuals although I personally like how some Combiners have different problems compared to others such as Menasor being a complete monster while Computron just takes a long time because he is too smart.
For component most of them suffer from a lack of character hell sometimes some random component gets more character then the leader of the team (First Aid to Hot Spot) (Breakdown to Motormaster) etc.
Still doesn't change my opinion on how much Combiners just..suck in this series and it's kinda ironic that they are getting more "development" in Titans Return then in their own show.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921930)
Posted by Tyrannacon on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:05am CST
Posted by Tyrannacon on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:05am CST
I actually like this a lot more than the Combiner Wars series done, there's still some things I am kind of "meh" about that CW did though that have repercussions here; however, I do consider the run-time being 10 minutes instead of 5 minutes or so to be helping the Titans Return series most. So far it's decent and not completely terrible. I hope it stays good and takes the lessons learned from the CW series to heart still to continue to improve itself. So far it looks like it has in a lot of ways.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921931)
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:09am CST
True, but they had no dialogue, only communicating with Star wars droid like beeps, so I figured they were little more than mindless drones. Hearing Long Haul actually have a line of dialogue was...something.
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:09am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Did everybody here just forget that Scrapper, Scavenger, and Long Haul all appeared individually before back in Megatron's debut episode in Combiner Wars? Their reappearance here in episode 1 of Titans Return isn't some revolutionary thing. It's just Machinima recycling the same three Constructicon character models that they had already used before.
True, but they had no dialogue, only communicating with Star wars droid like beeps, so I figured they were little more than mindless drones. Hearing Long Haul actually have a line of dialogue was...something.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921933)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:19am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:19am CST
I actually liked the first 2 episodes. Better than CW, still not amazing, but I did enjoy them
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921940)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:38am CST
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:38am CST
As far as "Scrud" Goes I'm pretty sure I've heard that in RID a few times as another random Swear.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921942)
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:57am CST
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:57am CST
slightly OT. BB in Rid15 said it often. In fact several of Will Friedle's characters have random swears:
Bumblebee in Rid15: Scrud
Lion-O in Thundercats 2011: Whiskers
as Batman in Batman Beyond he had several as well...cant think of the top of my head what they were though...heh...
Bumblebee in Rid15: Scrud
Lion-O in Thundercats 2011: Whiskers
as Batman in Batman Beyond he had several as well...cant think of the top of my head what they were though...heh...
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1921964)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 16th, 2017 @ 11:45am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 16th, 2017 @ 11:45am CST
Terry didn't really swear so much as just use future slang like "schway" for "cool".o.supreme wrote:slightly OT. BB in Rid15 said it often. In fact several of Will Friedle's characters have random swears:
Bumblebee in Rid15: Scrud
Lion-O in Thundercats 2011: Whiskers
as Batman in Batman Beyond he had several as well...cant think of the top of my head what they were though...heh...
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1922026)
Posted by Deadput on November 16th, 2017 @ 6:14pm CST
But it really should not be "Something" it should be the normal thing our expectations went so far down with CW that TR looks better compared to it, Tr isn't good either it's just not as bad as CW was.
It's like people being satisfied that some Robots in the live actions movies have personality when that should be the normal thing.
Posted by Deadput on November 16th, 2017 @ 6:14pm CST
o.supreme wrote:
True, but they had no dialogue, only communicating with Star wars droid like beeps, so I figured they were little more than mindless drones. Hearing Long Haul actually have a line of dialogue was...something.
But it really should not be "Something" it should be the normal thing our expectations went so far down with CW that TR looks better compared to it, Tr isn't good either it's just not as bad as CW was.
It's like people being satisfied that some Robots in the live actions movies have personality when that should be the normal thing.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1922559)
Posted by Regimus Prime on November 18th, 2017 @ 9:51pm CST
Posted by Regimus Prime on November 18th, 2017 @ 9:51pm CST
Those two episodes were worth it. I wish they would do a full length movie with a G1 script. Wishful thinking. 
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1922936)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 21st, 2017 @ 7:20am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 21st, 2017 @ 7:20am CST
Episode 3 is up - https://www.go90.com/videos/4MHzr5HZBY1
For those who can't access go90, while it isn't official, KimCartoon should have this episode up on its website for all to watch by tomorrow.
For those who can't access go90, while it isn't official, KimCartoon should have this episode up on its website for all to watch by tomorrow.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1922971)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 21st, 2017 @ 10:14am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 21st, 2017 @ 10:14am CST
Another Tuesday rolls around, and with it the next episode in Machinima's Titans Return series! Episdoe 3 has gone live, titled "The Fight Begins", and features a montage of new information for us to look into.
The episode includes, but in no way is limited to, some scenes of Trypticon and Metroplex finally doing battle once more, Hot Rod speeding down the road, the Matrix and its connection to Optimus Prime, the return of a fan favorite Megatron, and a prelude to what is next for the series (after only 3 episodes no less!). You can check out the full episode by following the above link, and stay tuned for a review of the episode from our own series reviewer extraordinaire, Bronzewolf!
Did you miss the first 2 episodes? You can find the links Here.
The episode includes, but in no way is limited to, some scenes of Trypticon and Metroplex finally doing battle once more, Hot Rod speeding down the road, the Matrix and its connection to Optimus Prime, the return of a fan favorite Megatron, and a prelude to what is next for the series (after only 3 episodes no less!). You can check out the full episode by following the above link, and stay tuned for a review of the episode from our own series reviewer extraordinaire, Bronzewolf!
Did you miss the first 2 episodes? You can find the links Here.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1922973)
Posted by o.supreme on November 21st, 2017 @ 10:21am CST
Posted by o.supreme on November 21st, 2017 @ 10:21am CST
Angelina Pax has episode 3 broken into pieces on her Youtube Channel. Just watched it on go90 however. It's getting kind of lame again. The episode didn't really go anywhere. It was nice to see Metroplex & Trypticon brawl, but did everyone forget they have weapons? Missiles, Lasers...anything?
Oh and I'm not sure why there are so many people on youtube going nuts on whoever is voicing Menasor and Computron. They said one and two words respectively. I mean I understand everyone has to start somewhere, but as far as the vocal talent in this show, these two are at the very bottom, and it shows. Perceptor continues to be the only character that has any personality.
"How's the evacuation going" LOL Really? Yeah...all 2 bots in the citadel are still there. I understand sometimes it takes a lot of work to make a city feel populated, but there are some tricks I'm sure experienced animators know to give a feeling of populating an area, without showing all the people. This just feels like generic empty Cybertron we've seen in most other incarnations. Other than the characters onscreen, there's nobody there.
Oh...and I guess the reason why Metroplex & Trypticon didn't fire any of their weapons is because one single missile is all they could afford to animate, and it apparently has the ability to end the world, or not...man that's some missile .
Oh and I'm not sure why there are so many people on youtube going nuts on whoever is voicing Menasor and Computron. They said one and two words respectively. I mean I understand everyone has to start somewhere, but as far as the vocal talent in this show, these two are at the very bottom, and it shows. Perceptor continues to be the only character that has any personality.
"How's the evacuation going" LOL Really? Yeah...all 2 bots in the citadel are still there. I understand sometimes it takes a lot of work to make a city feel populated, but there are some tricks I'm sure experienced animators know to give a feeling of populating an area, without showing all the people. This just feels like generic empty Cybertron we've seen in most other incarnations. Other than the characters onscreen, there's nobody there.
Oh...and I guess the reason why Metroplex & Trypticon didn't fire any of their weapons is because one single missile is all they could afford to animate, and it apparently has the ability to end the world, or not...man that's some missile
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Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1922996)
Posted by Randomhero on November 21st, 2017 @ 11:19am CST
Honestly I dont mean to be rude but it sounds like you’re just wanting to be critical and find issues.
I thought the episode was fine. It’s fighting that’s all it was with a couple cutaways but good cutaways. Optimus and Megatron continue to be the gems of this series and Optimus extending his hand to Megatron to finally move forward was great and Megatron turning away was great. He’s becoming my favorite Megatron next to IDW.
Menasor is a side character I’m not going to judge a side character for their one line.
As for firepower: metroplex is established as injured. Maybe he can’t access his armory defenses and with trypiticon, starscream is possessing him but he’s acting like a feral beast. He probably doesn’t know how to use his guns and artillery
Posted by Randomhero on November 21st, 2017 @ 11:19am CST
o.supreme wrote:Abgelina Pax has episode 3 broken into pieces on her Youtube Channel. Just watched it on go90 however. It's getting kind of lame again. The episode didn't really go anywhere. It was nice to see Metroplex & Trypticon brawl, but did everyone forget they have weapons? Missiles, Lasers...anything?
Oh and I'm not sure why there are so many people on youtube going nuts on whoever is voicing Menasor and Computron. They said one and two words respectively. I mean I understand everyone has to start somewhere, but as far as the vocal talent in this show, these two are at the very bottom, and it shows. Perceptor continues to be the only character that has any personality.
"How's the evacuation going" LOL Really? Yeah...all 2 bots in the citadel are still there. I understand sometimes it takes a lot of work to make a city feel populated, but there are some tricks I'm sure experienced animators know to give a feeling of populating an area, without showing all the people. This just feels like generic empty Cybertron we've seen in most other incarnations. Other than the characters onscreen, there's nobody there.
Oh...and I guess the reason why Metroplex & Trypticon didn't fire any of their weapons is because one single missile is all they could afford to animate, and it apparently has the ability to end the world, or not...man that's some missile
Honestly I dont mean to be rude but it sounds like you’re just wanting to be critical and find issues.
I thought the episode was fine. It’s fighting that’s all it was with a couple cutaways but good cutaways. Optimus and Megatron continue to be the gems of this series and Optimus extending his hand to Megatron to finally move forward was great and Megatron turning away was great. He’s becoming my favorite Megatron next to IDW.
Menasor is a side character I’m not going to judge a side character for their one line.
As for firepower: metroplex is established as injured. Maybe he can’t access his armory defenses and with trypiticon, starscream is possessing him but he’s acting like a feral beast. He probably doesn’t know how to use his guns and artillery
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923007)
Posted by o.supreme on November 21st, 2017 @ 11:52am CST
Posted by o.supreme on November 21st, 2017 @ 11:52am CST
Just to be clear, I'm not judging the character, or the VA voicing that character. I'm questioning the fans adulation of someone based on pretty much nothing.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923017)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 21st, 2017 @ 12:36pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 21st, 2017 @ 12:36pm CST
Perceptor does have some personality, although for a moment there, i could hear Weasley Crusher come through, especially at the only moment he sounded excited. blahhh
I'd really like to hear more with Hot Rod, since they have Judd Nelson doing the voice here, but they aren't exactly giving him a lot of lines.
I still think she show has potential, I'm just afraid it'll fail at meeting it.
I'd really like to hear more with Hot Rod, since they have Judd Nelson doing the voice here, but they aren't exactly giving him a lot of lines.
I still think she show has potential, I'm just afraid it'll fail at meeting it.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923023)
Posted by Randomhero on November 21st, 2017 @ 1:48pm CST
May be too soon but my faith in it is pretty restored. We’re 30 minutes in and it’s mostly been set up. With CW we’d be almost done, like thered be 10 minutes. This is going to be almost 2 hours so I’ve got faith in it.
With a rodimus/hot rod I’d wager he’ll have a much bigger role. His story is just starting and he’s off doing something now. I think the voicing has really improved. The handful of lines from optimus feel like I’m wathcing the cartoon again. It feels like when I played Devastation and I was smiling from ear to ear hearing peter Cullen play G1 Optimus again becuase G1 optimus is much different than movie optimus and Prime/RID Optimus in voice. Both just sounded tired. I hated optimus in Prime becuase he sounded like he just didn’t give a damn about anything when he was talking.
Maybe it’s becuase I’m looking at G1 optimus while he’s speaking and if that’s so than it’s working for me.
Posted by Randomhero on November 21st, 2017 @ 1:48pm CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:Perceptor does have some personality, although for a moment there, i could hear Weasley Crusher come through, especially at the only moment he sounded excited. blahhh
I'd really like to hear more with Hot Rod, since they have Judd Nelson doing the voice here, but they aren't exactly giving him a lot of lines.
I still think she show has potential, I'm just afraid it'll fail at meeting it.
May be too soon but my faith in it is pretty restored. We’re 30 minutes in and it’s mostly been set up. With CW we’d be almost done, like thered be 10 minutes. This is going to be almost 2 hours so I’ve got faith in it.
With a rodimus/hot rod I’d wager he’ll have a much bigger role. His story is just starting and he’s off doing something now. I think the voicing has really improved. The handful of lines from optimus feel like I’m wathcing the cartoon again. It feels like when I played Devastation and I was smiling from ear to ear hearing peter Cullen play G1 Optimus again becuase G1 optimus is much different than movie optimus and Prime/RID Optimus in voice. Both just sounded tired. I hated optimus in Prime becuase he sounded like he just didn’t give a damn about anything when he was talking.
Maybe it’s becuase I’m looking at G1 optimus while he’s speaking and if that’s so than it’s working for me.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923028)
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 21st, 2017 @ 3:25pm CST
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 21st, 2017 @ 3:25pm CST
Welcome back (and to those just joining, welcome) to another Machinima Titan's Return review! Last week saw the release of the first two episodes of this new series, (you can catch up on my review for those here and here) and this week we finally get the resolution to some of the cliffhanging plot threads left over from last week. Let's get straight to it and take a look at Titan's Return Episode 3!
So, we pick up where we left off in episode 2, with Trypticon in the middle of rampaging through Cybertron and Metroplex coming to meet him. And then, finally, we get the big (literally) fight scene between the two titans. It's actually fairly well done and entertaining to watch. Windblade again tries to get Metroplex to stand down, but he knows he must to defend the city.
Mmmm, hot giant robot-on-giant robot dinosaur action
Thanks to a random bit of purple smoke that comes out of Trypticon's mouth(?), we hear Starscream's voice, and Windblade and Metroplex discover that Starscream is the one controlling Trypticon.
Bluhh, sorry, I had Chipotle
We cut away from the fight for a moment to catch up with Perceptor and the Mistress of Flame, who make contact with Hot Rod. He asks how the evacuation is going, even though we've seen no one but the main cast in this entire city. Hot Rod informs them he'll be arriving shortly to aid with the fight.
We then cut to the Matrix of Leadership, now in the hands of the 13 Primes, who send a message to Optimus Prime. He stops, heeding the sign from the Matrix, and realizes what has happened in the city he's left behind. He travels back to the fight, and then, finally, we get the reappearance of Megatron. He remains the greatest, best-acted character in the entire two series, and the dialogue and exposition between he and Optimus in this scene is really good. He gives us some foreshadowing about the next series, Power of the Primes.
AW YISSSS
But all good things must come to an end, as, like a thief in the night, Megatron leaves as soon as he arrived. He decides not to go with Optimus to save the city, but I'd assume this is not the last we'll see of him through the rest of the series.
While this is all happening, we find the Mistress of Flame and Perceptor trying to contact the combiners on their quest to find Fortress Maximus, which they are unable to do.
"[Trypticon] could want one thing, or everything!" .....What?!?!? What is this writing??
After watching the battle for a few moments more, she sends Perceptor to turn on the castle's defense systems, while she goes to her "Prayer Chamber".
#thoughtsandprayers
Perceptor then makes it to the basilica control room, and turns the defenses on.
Orchestrated by Daft Punk, apparently.
The combiners finally make it to Fortress Maximus and attempt to activate it. We hear Youtuber Matpat in the role of Computron for the first time, and there's kind of a unique, fun dynamic between all the combiners hinted at here. Menasor fires off a missile by accident, with no idea where it will land. With that, episode 3 ends.
It's ya boy, DJ P3rcy P, spinning some fresh hits for ya all night long...
This was, again, a good episode. It was nothing exceptional, but the Metroplex/Trypticon battle scenes were very well done, and makes up for some pacing, timing, and writing issues that are pretty regular in this series so far. I honestly think it's biggest issue currrently is that, even though you had a pretty constant amount of action in this episode, it still feels pretty dull. It just doesn't grab you and make you feel like you're involved or invested in these battles you're seeing. The pacing issues coupled with the wide, steady, far out camera angles I think really detach you from the situation, which is not how you should feel. It just makes everything seem inconsequential, when it really isn't. This is still a huge improvement over the last series, though, because we've move on from being "Oh this is just bad" to actual critique, dissecting the actual occasional flaw that presents itself.
Well, that's it this week. What did you think? Watch the new episode over on Go90, and then come back and tell us in the Energon pub forums below! Happy Thanksgiving to you all if you celebrate it, and I'll see you next Tuesday!
So, we pick up where we left off in episode 2, with Trypticon in the middle of rampaging through Cybertron and Metroplex coming to meet him. And then, finally, we get the big (literally) fight scene between the two titans. It's actually fairly well done and entertaining to watch. Windblade again tries to get Metroplex to stand down, but he knows he must to defend the city.
Mmmm, hot giant robot-on-giant robot dinosaur action
Thanks to a random bit of purple smoke that comes out of Trypticon's mouth(?), we hear Starscream's voice, and Windblade and Metroplex discover that Starscream is the one controlling Trypticon.
Bluhh, sorry, I had Chipotle
We cut away from the fight for a moment to catch up with Perceptor and the Mistress of Flame, who make contact with Hot Rod. He asks how the evacuation is going, even though we've seen no one but the main cast in this entire city. Hot Rod informs them he'll be arriving shortly to aid with the fight.
We then cut to the Matrix of Leadership, now in the hands of the 13 Primes, who send a message to Optimus Prime. He stops, heeding the sign from the Matrix, and realizes what has happened in the city he's left behind. He travels back to the fight, and then, finally, we get the reappearance of Megatron. He remains the greatest, best-acted character in the entire two series, and the dialogue and exposition between he and Optimus in this scene is really good. He gives us some foreshadowing about the next series, Power of the Primes.
AW YISSSS
But all good things must come to an end, as, like a thief in the night, Megatron leaves as soon as he arrived. He decides not to go with Optimus to save the city, but I'd assume this is not the last we'll see of him through the rest of the series.
While this is all happening, we find the Mistress of Flame and Perceptor trying to contact the combiners on their quest to find Fortress Maximus, which they are unable to do.
"[Trypticon] could want one thing, or everything!" .....What?!?!? What is this writing??
After watching the battle for a few moments more, she sends Perceptor to turn on the castle's defense systems, while she goes to her "Prayer Chamber".
#thoughtsandprayers
Perceptor then makes it to the basilica control room, and turns the defenses on.
Orchestrated by Daft Punk, apparently.
The combiners finally make it to Fortress Maximus and attempt to activate it. We hear Youtuber Matpat in the role of Computron for the first time, and there's kind of a unique, fun dynamic between all the combiners hinted at here. Menasor fires off a missile by accident, with no idea where it will land. With that, episode 3 ends.
It's ya boy, DJ P3rcy P, spinning some fresh hits for ya all night long...
This was, again, a good episode. It was nothing exceptional, but the Metroplex/Trypticon battle scenes were very well done, and makes up for some pacing, timing, and writing issues that are pretty regular in this series so far. I honestly think it's biggest issue currrently is that, even though you had a pretty constant amount of action in this episode, it still feels pretty dull. It just doesn't grab you and make you feel like you're involved or invested in these battles you're seeing. The pacing issues coupled with the wide, steady, far out camera angles I think really detach you from the situation, which is not how you should feel. It just makes everything seem inconsequential, when it really isn't. This is still a huge improvement over the last series, though, because we've move on from being "Oh this is just bad" to actual critique, dissecting the actual occasional flaw that presents itself.
Well, that's it this week. What did you think? Watch the new episode over on Go90, and then come back and tell us in the Energon pub forums below! Happy Thanksgiving to you all if you celebrate it, and I'll see you next Tuesday!
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923029)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 21st, 2017 @ 4:11pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 21st, 2017 @ 4:11pm CST
Maybe it's just me, but It didn't exactly sound like Starscream was Controlling Tripticon. I got more of the impression that Starscream was more like a "battery" so to speak, or maybe a key. Like his Spark was used to Activate Tripticon but not allow him to control the Titan.
Simply put, I thought Starscream sounded more like he was in pain, then anything else, but that's just me.
Simply put, I thought Starscream sounded more like he was in pain, then anything else, but that's just me.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923056)
Posted by Qwan on November 21st, 2017 @ 6:26pm CST
Posted by Qwan on November 21st, 2017 @ 6:26pm CST
Not too long after the last interview with Peter Cullen about his role as Optimus Prime in Machinima's Titans Return animated series, we have another one with the great man, coming from the LA Times! The questions cover how he first landed the role back in the days of Generation One; the changes to the voice-acting process over time since he started his career; his bond with frequent (though not present in Machinima's series) voice of Megatron, Frank Welker; and even more!
The article doesn't touch too much on Machinima's series specifically, but it nonetheless contains a fair few interesting tidbits about Cullen's role, and his feelings on the current acting environment in animation. Check out a couple excerpts below, and of course read the full interview here! And as always, stick around Seibertron.com for more news and coverage of Machinima's series (like our review of the recently-released third episode) as it happens!
The article doesn't touch too much on Machinima's series specifically, but it nonetheless contains a fair few interesting tidbits about Cullen's role, and his feelings on the current acting environment in animation. Check out a couple excerpts below, and of course read the full interview here! And as always, stick around Seibertron.com for more news and coverage of Machinima's series (like our review of the recently-released third episode) as it happens!
Did you ever think you'd see the Transformers characters as characters in a live-action/CGI movie?
No. Not really — especially after the 1986 [animated] movie because I was killed off. Frankly I didn't pay much attention to the show after that. I may have checked out a few [episodes] while I was doing it, but I had a family of my own. And my kids — my son — was not interested in cartoons and animation. He was a motocross and jet ski guy. He was not a sit-at-home-and-watch-TV kid. So I didn't get any feedback for years!
Your animation nemesis — voice actor Frank Welker — isn't in this latest Transformers iteration, but playing against his Megatron for so many years must have created a special bond.
A great bond. There's something about voiceover actors ... they're really underestimated and taken for granted. When I'm in a room with these talented guys ... they're really talented people and humble people. They're just marvelous people. Judd Nelson, who did Rodimus Prime or Hotrod in the newest series, what a great guy. Sensational human being and great talent. A great intellectual approach to a lot of his characters. And Frank — that's a bond that has lasted decades. It's such a privilege to be in a room with those people.
A lot of voiceover now is done, as you said, on a microphone in someone's home nowadays. Most would imagine that performing in-studio with other actors adds a different tone as opposed to being strictly digital.
The way I would express it would be like if you played on a football team and you weren't in the main locker room getting ready for a game around all the other players. You were just put in a room with your uniform and told to meet up on the field. You're missing 98% of the whole thing. You're missing the team, the camaraderie , the energy, the spirits, the willingness to combine efforts together and produce something good. When you're with a full group, you're inspired. And not only that, but the amount of laughter that ensued was just — you can't describe it. If it was school, we'd all be staying in detention.
Because it is so recognizable, have you ever thought of your voice as a liability in terms of getting other roles?
No. I never use Optimus Prime's voice for anything else. I studied voice, so I know I can get down and [lowers his voice] add the timber. It's just something I was capable of doing and I've never looked back.The voice is an instrument like any other. It's just about how you play it.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923059)
Posted by o.supreme on November 21st, 2017 @ 7:03pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on November 21st, 2017 @ 7:03pm CST
so, my son wanted to get caught up so I gave episode 3 a second viewing this afternoon. There was one part I'll admit that intrigued me a bit.
When Op and Megs are conversing and the Requiem Blaster is referenced along with the Enigma of Combination, as powerful ancient relics,...I wonder what this is in reference to? Has the Requiem Blaster ever been mentioned outside of Armada?...maybe it will be a super weapon in PotP?
Also I know this is in some *alternate* OG continuity...but I cant think of any continuity off the top of my head that this would be remotely based on whereby, after Optimus Prime is Resurrected, that Megatron, Starscream, and the original seekers would still be around in the distant future...But I guess that's a good thing. Distancing this from the actual original series as much as possible.
When Op and Megs are conversing and the Requiem Blaster is referenced along with the Enigma of Combination, as powerful ancient relics,...I wonder what this is in reference to? Has the Requiem Blaster ever been mentioned outside of Armada?...maybe it will be a super weapon in PotP?
Also I know this is in some *alternate* OG continuity...but I cant think of any continuity off the top of my head that this would be remotely based on whereby, after Optimus Prime is Resurrected, that Megatron, Starscream, and the original seekers would still be around in the distant future...But I guess that's a good thing. Distancing this from the actual original series as much as possible.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923068)
Posted by Sunstar on November 21st, 2017 @ 8:20pm CST
Posted by Sunstar on November 21st, 2017 @ 8:20pm CST
Does anyone know how a canadian can view these series? Or where i can find them...
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923079)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 21st, 2017 @ 9:16pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 21st, 2017 @ 9:16pm CST
Yes. The Aligned continuity reimagined a terrible weapon of devastating potential called the Requiem Blaster as the personal weapon of Megatronus. The novel trilogy and the Covenant of Primus went into more about it.o.supreme wrote:so, my son wanted to get caught up so I gave episode 3 a second viewing this afternoon. There was one part I'll admit that intrigued me a bit.
When Op and Megs are conversing and the Requiem Blaster is referenced along with the Enigma of Combination, as powerful ancient relics,...I wonder what this is in reference to? Has the Requiem Blaster ever been mentioned outside of Armada?
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923086)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 21st, 2017 @ 9:59pm CST
Posted by King Kuuga on November 21st, 2017 @ 9:59pm CST
The official Transformers Facebook page lists https://transformersprimewars.tumblr.com/ as the official host of the series for non-US viewers.
https://www.facebook.com/transformers/v ... 319446655/
https://www.facebook.com/transformers/v ... 319446655/
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923132)
Posted by Big Grim on November 22nd, 2017 @ 4:25am CST
Posted by Big Grim on November 22nd, 2017 @ 4:25am CST
Tried to give this a shot on their tumblr. It kept reloading itself, so screw it. I care not.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923143)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 22nd, 2017 @ 7:35am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 22nd, 2017 @ 7:35am CST
It's up on KimCartoon now - http://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Transformers-Titans-Return
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923285)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 23rd, 2017 @ 3:38am CST
Posted by King Kuuga on November 23rd, 2017 @ 3:38am CST
The amount of posts I'm seeing on the Facebook ads asking where to watch the show, when said ads have links to both go90 and the Tumblr in them, is kind of timing my faith in the human race.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923289)
Posted by Burn on November 23rd, 2017 @ 4:51am CST
Actually they're legitimate questions. go90 isn't available to anyone outside of the US (unless they're using a VPN) and the Tumblr has no controls other than Pause/Play. You can't go full screen or anything. (At least that's how it is in my browser)
Posted by Burn on November 23rd, 2017 @ 4:51am CST
King Kuuga wrote:The amount of posts I'm seeing on the Facebook ads asking where to watch the show, when said ads have links to both go90 and the Tumblr in them, is kind of timing my faith in the human race.
Actually they're legitimate questions. go90 isn't available to anyone outside of the US (unless they're using a VPN) and the Tumblr has no controls other than Pause/Play. You can't go full screen or anything. (At least that's how it is in my browser)
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923321)
Posted by Sunstar on November 23rd, 2017 @ 10:33am CST
Posted by Sunstar on November 23rd, 2017 @ 10:33am CST
when the mistress said she was going to the chamber, I thought "thoughts and prayers" And she was the one who had the gall to consider Perceptor ineffectual because "he's not a warrior". I would consider Perceptor more effective than the mistress - or anyone who locks themselves up in a chamber to pray.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923364)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 23rd, 2017 @ 4:33pm CST
What I'm seeing are people who see the video ads, go "okay this looks neat", and go to the comments to ask where they can watch it.... even though it says right there in the post where they can watch it. Neither service is ideal but the information is right there.
Posted by King Kuuga on November 23rd, 2017 @ 4:33pm CST
Burn wrote:Actually they're legitimate questions. go90 isn't available to anyone outside of the US (unless they're using a VPN) and the Tumblr has no controls other than Pause/Play. You can't go full screen or anything. (At least that's how it is in my browser)
What I'm seeing are people who see the video ads, go "okay this looks neat", and go to the comments to ask where they can watch it.... even though it says right there in the post where they can watch it. Neither service is ideal but the information is right there.
Re: Review: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 1 (1923374)
Posted by Burn on November 23rd, 2017 @ 5:20pm CST
If it's Facebook, some people need to be replied directly to. They're incapable of reading other comments.
Posted by Burn on November 23rd, 2017 @ 5:20pm CST
King Kuuga wrote:Burn wrote:Actually they're legitimate questions. go90 isn't available to anyone outside of the US (unless they're using a VPN) and the Tumblr has no controls other than Pause/Play. You can't go full screen or anything. (At least that's how it is in my browser)
What I'm seeing are people who see the video ads, go "okay this looks neat", and go to the comments to ask where they can watch it.... even though it says right there in the post where they can watch it. Neither service is ideal but the information is right there.
If it's Facebook, some people need to be replied directly to. They're incapable of reading other comments.
