Reissue of CW Titan Class Devastator Incoming
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Greetings Seibertronians! We've learned some interesting news coming from the land down under. Ozformers, has shared the news they received from Hasbro Australia that Combiner Wars Titan Class Devastator is being reissued! For Australian Transformers fans, this means that the local Amazon branch getting 300 units to list on October - November time. A comment was made that it looks like Amazon has exclusive rights to this Titan Class reissue, so its best for non-Australian fans to keep their eyes peeled to their local divisions of Amazon to see if listings crop up there.
From the Ozformers post, it appears nothing will be changed for this release.
What do you think of this? Have you already grabbed a Devy? Either the Hasbro or Unite Warriors version? Or does mark your first chance to get him without having to turn to eBay? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
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Posted by angtre on September 25th, 2020 @ 5:50am CDT
Posted by Black Bumblebee on September 25th, 2020 @ 5:51am CDT
Posted by Emerje on September 25th, 2020 @ 6:05am CDT
mentre83 wrote:I'm saving my internal organs for the Masterpiece version.
Good news! You're going to die with all of your organs intact (or at least you wont be selling any for MP Devi). The CW figure was intended to be an MP until HasTak decided they didn't want to do an MP combiner and dumbed it down for CW (and then reinstated a bunch of parts for the far superior Japanese Unite Warriors line. Yes, there's supposed to be an MP Raiden coming, but that's likely a one-off since Japan LOVES trains in ways the rest of the world doesn't understand.
Emerje
Posted by Brokebot on September 25th, 2020 @ 6:20am CDT
Emerje wrote:mentre83 wrote:I'm saving my internal organs for the Masterpiece version.
Good news! You're going to die with all of your organs intact (or at least you wont be selling any for MP Devi). The CW figure was intended to be an MP until HasTak decided they didn't want to do an MP combiner and dumbed it down for CW (and then reinstated a bunch of parts for the far superior Japanese Unite Warriors line. Yes, there's supposed to be an MP Raiden coming, but that's likely a one-off since Japan LOVES trains in ways the rest of the world doesn't understand.
Emerje
Raiden, you say?
I may need to borrow some of mentre83's internal organs.
Posted by angtre on September 25th, 2020 @ 6:38am CDT
Brokebot wrote:Emerje wrote:mentre83 wrote:I'm saving my internal organs for the Masterpiece version.
Good news! You're going to die with all of your organs intact (or at least you wont be selling any for MP Devi). The CW figure was intended to be an MP until HasTak decided they didn't want to do an MP combiner and dumbed it down for CW (and then reinstated a bunch of parts for the far superior Japanese Unite Warriors line. Yes, there's supposed to be an MP Raiden coming, but that's likely a one-off since Japan LOVES trains in ways the rest of the world doesn't understand.
Emerje
Raiden, you say?
I may need to borrow some of mentre83's internal organs.
I need those, yet maybe I can give you an arm and a leg - unless they release Reflector too.
Posted by ilikerobits on September 25th, 2020 @ 6:52am CDT
Such a great toy, I must say it again...
Posted by Rodimus Knight on September 25th, 2020 @ 7:18am CDT
I'm happy for those who missed it who will get a chance to get it again though.
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 25th, 2020 @ 7:33am CDT
I picked up NBK devy first and waited to get the UW for £100. Eventually happened but I prefer the NBK one even if it's smaller.
Posted by skycutter on September 25th, 2020 @ 8:27am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 25th, 2020 @ 9:53am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on September 25th, 2020 @ 9:54am CDT
Posted by YRQRM0 on September 25th, 2020 @ 11:00am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 25th, 2020 @ 11:06am CDT
YRQRM0 wrote:Dammit, I didn't even know how big of a difference there was until this thread made me look up the UW differences. Now I want a reissue of that!
There actually was a small reissue of UW Devastator last year I believe along with Superion...But sadly those have since sold out as well.
Posted by Delicon on September 25th, 2020 @ 11:33am CDT
Now that he's a little older I MIGHT buy another one.
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 25th, 2020 @ 12:21pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Nice for those that still want one, I guess? If this had the UW improvements I could understand it more- quite frankly, the stock Hasbro version is IMO inexcusably bad between its structural deficiencies and lack of elbows on Scrapper and Long Haul. And even UW can't solve the general cheap look, wonky proportions (Devastator ends up with Sailor Moon legs) and the fact he's just too damn big. Personally I think we really, REALLY need a new official Devastator seeing as the only CHUG options from 3Ps are the oldest complete 3P combiners on the market and all other offerings are MP scaled. I love my Maketoys Giant but I feel HasTak could make an amazing Devastator if they released the individually and with WFC trilogy levels of budget and engineering.
He scales perfectly with Siege Omega Supreme mind.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on September 25th, 2020 @ 9:47pm CDT
Brokebot wrote:Emerje wrote:mentre83 wrote:I'm saving my internal organs for the Masterpiece version.
Good news! You're going to die with all of your organs intact (or at least you wont be selling any for MP Devi). The CW figure was intended to be an MP until HasTak decided they didn't want to do an MP combiner and dumbed it down for CW (and then reinstated a bunch of parts for the far superior Japanese Unite Warriors line. Yes, there's supposed to be an MP Raiden coming, but that's likely a one-off since Japan LOVES trains in ways the rest of the world doesn't understand.
Emerje
Raiden, you say?
I may need to borrow some of mentre83's internal organs.
Hey while on that subject of Raiden there was some kind of news a while back of a Re-release of the Takara figure or a modern version?
Posted by Nemesis Destron on September 25th, 2020 @ 10:03pm CDT
Yes indeed it is an awesome Transformer be sure of it! In fact I was able to keep my organs after I bought a second set because the Constructicons themselves are an awesome group to have as well.
And I did it again with Predicons...'nuff said!
Posted by Sabrblade on September 25th, 2020 @ 10:44pm CDT
Emerje answers that question when he first brings up Raiden in the post of his you quoted.Nemesis Destron wrote:Brokebot wrote:Emerje wrote:mentre83 wrote:I'm saving my internal organs for the Masterpiece version.
Good news! You're going to die with all of your organs intact (or at least you wont be selling any for MP Devi). The CW figure was intended to be an MP until HasTak decided they didn't want to do an MP combiner and dumbed it down for CW (and then reinstated a bunch of parts for the far superior Japanese Unite Warriors line. Yes, there's supposed to be an MP Raiden coming, but that's likely a one-off since Japan LOVES trains in ways the rest of the world doesn't understand.
Emerje
Raiden, you say?
I may need to borrow some of mentre83's internal organs.
Hey while on that subject of Raiden there was some kind of news a while back of a Re-release of the Takara figure or a modern version?
Posted by Nemesis Destron on September 25th, 2020 @ 10:54pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Emerje answers that question when he first brings up Raiden in the post of his you quoted.Nemesis Destron wrote:Brokebot wrote:Emerje wrote:mentre83 wrote:I'm saving my internal organs for the Masterpiece version.
Good news! You're going to die with all of your organs intact (or at least you wont be selling any for MP Devi). The CW figure was intended to be an MP until HasTak decided they didn't want to do an MP combiner and dumbed it down for CW (and then reinstated a bunch of parts for the far superior Japanese Unite Warriors line. Yes, there's supposed to be an MP Raiden coming, but that's likely a one-off since Japan LOVES trains in ways the rest of the world doesn't understand.
Emerje
Raiden, you say?
I may need to borrow some of mentre83's internal organs.
Hey while on that subject of Raiden there was some kind of news a while back of a Re-release of the Takara figure or a modern version?
Aww hell you're right, thanks Sabrblade!
Posted by NTESHFT on September 26th, 2020 @ 3:06am CDT
Posted by Burn on September 26th, 2020 @ 3:56am CDT
Posted by Emerje on September 26th, 2020 @ 4:42am CDT
Burn wrote:Once combined, was there much of a difference between CW and UW?
The heads are different, the UW version has an optional visor sort of like Metroplex, that's the major physical change. The UW version does have purple hands, slightly different green overall, and Mixmaster had a truck front painted on the foot.
Emerje
Posted by Burn on September 26th, 2020 @ 5:17am CDT
I mean sure, if you're displaying them individually that would be different, but once again, people getting all ragey over nothing.
Posted by Evil Eye on September 26th, 2020 @ 5:50am CDT
Posted by Zeedust on September 26th, 2020 @ 6:25pm CDT
Burn wrote:So realistically, if people are going to display the Constructicons, they're like to do it as Devestator, thus getting their panties all bunched up over UW being better is kinda pointless given there's only a few minor differences once combined.
I mean sure, if you're displaying them individually that would be different, but once again, people getting all ragey over nothing.
I think it's just the knee-jerk "we must praise Takara and bash Hasbro at any opportunity" reflex this fandom has had for as long as I can remember. Any difference at all is proof that Hasbro is the literal devil and anyone who'll settle for the Hasbro releases is not a true fan and/or is flat out braindead. I honestly got sick of hearing it to the point where it got hard to be a part of any conversation in the fandom.
I have the CW version, and I really don't see what's so horribly wrong with it.
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 26th, 2020 @ 7:26pm CDT
It's just a case of one better version of a toy over another, sometimes Hasbro is better than Takara, sometimes not.
Posted by Evil Eye on September 27th, 2020 @ 6:46am CDT
Zeedust wrote:Burn wrote:So realistically, if people are going to display the Constructicons, they're like to do it as Devestator, thus getting their panties all bunched up over UW being better is kinda pointless given there's only a few minor differences once combined.
I mean sure, if you're displaying them individually that would be different, but once again, people getting all ragey over nothing.
I think it's just the knee-jerk "we must praise Takara and bash Hasbro at any opportunity" reflex this fandom has had for as long as I can remember. Any difference at all is proof that Hasbro is the literal devil and anyone who'll settle for the Hasbro releases is not a true fan and/or is flat out braindead. I honestly got sick of hearing it to the point where it got hard to be a part of any conversation in the fandom.
I have the CW version, and I really don't see what's so horribly wrong with it.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. There's plenty of figures from the CW/UW era Hasbro honestly did better (the Stunticons, especially Dragstrip spring to mind) but CW Devastator is at least IMO unacceptable. The fact that a modern set of figures came missing basic articulation- not ab crunches or butterfly joints, but FUNCTIONAL ELBOWS- absolutely baffles me. Now granted the UW version doesn't fix the issues I have with the base set of figures (enormous compared to the other combiners, weird proportions, overall cheap look) but at the very least it makes them functional toys.
I know some people are OK with gimped individuals if the combined mode looks better as a result, but for one thing I personally don't think he looks all that great, even discounting the bizarre decision to make him huge he just looks kinda gangly and weird, and for another, if you only care about combined mode, why even bother buying a set of transforming figures? At that point wouldn't it be better to just buy a giant Action Master? IIRC there was a 3P non-transforming but highly accurate Devastator.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on September 27th, 2020 @ 7:25am CDT
Keep in mind we were in the middle of an entire product line that had maybe... five unique transformation schemes to the vehicles. MANY used if not the exact same design nods and were just re-shelled if not just head and paint swaps.
So when Takara came blasting out of the gate the same day (week?) has Hasbro with an arguably better product.... it just was bad move...
As far as the Titan scale. It feels the appropriate size, for MPs (blends right in with Grapple) in robot mode, however, the gestalt mode feels appropriately scaled for War for Cybertron (in my mind). As a side note, keep in mind that the average Combiner War character is currently out of scale with the War for Cybertron Trilogy (though it kind of works in the Dinobots favor at least).
Part of me wishes all the Combiner War combiners were Devastator sized, but that would the robot modes really out of scale (maybe as super cheap MPs?)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 27th, 2020 @ 7:32am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:I think the main issue a lot of folks, me included, had with the Hasbro version was the fact that it seemed "stripped down" compared to the Takara. Now... it's possible that the Hasbro one was "the first pass" and Takara decided, "we can do better". But it really seems like Takara had been much further along, and then for some reason Hasbro cut corners.
Keep in mind we were in the middle of an entire product line that had maybe... five unique transformation schemes to the vehicles. MANY used if not the exact same design nods and were just re-shelled if not just head and paint swaps.
So when Takara came blasting out of the gate the same day (week?) has Hasbro with an arguably better product.... it just was bad move...
As far as the Titan scale. It feels the appropriate size, for MPs (blends right in with Grapple) in robot mode, however, the gestalt mode feels appropriately scaled for War for Cybertron (in my mind). As a side note, keep in mind that the average Combiner War character is currently out of scale with the War for Cybertron Trilogy (though it kind of works in the Dinobots favor at least).
Part of me wishes all the Combiner War combiners were Devastator sized, but that would the robot modes really out of scale (maybe as super cheap MPs?)
Hasbro cut parts to get the price down for the Titan class price, Takara had designed him to be MP level originally. Takara have the advantages of not sticking to defined price points, something that worked for Hasbro for years.
Posted by william-james88 on September 29th, 2020 @ 7:40pm CDT
Emerje wrote:mentre83 wrote:I'm saving my internal organs for the Masterpiece version.
Good news! You're going to die with all of your organs intact (or at least you wont be selling any for MP Devi). The CW figure was intended to be an MP until HasTak decided they didn't want to do an MP combiner and dumbed it down for CW (and then reinstated a bunch of parts for the far superior Japanese Unite Warriors line. Yes, there's supposed to be an MP Raiden coming, but that's likely a one-off since Japan LOVES trains in ways the rest of the world doesn't understand.
Emerje
I like trains. Really hoping Hasbro can bring us the Train Zords that BOA skipped.
Burn wrote:So realistically, if people are going to display the Constructicons, they're like to do it as Devestator, thus getting their panties all bunched up over UW being better is kinda pointless given there's only a few minor differences once combined.
I mean sure, if you're displaying them individually that would be different, but once again, people getting all ragey over nothing.
There's another aspect that wasn't discussed in terms of differences and it definitely involves the combined mode: the ratcheted shoulders. Devy's arms are rather heavy and the hasbro version just relies on friction to hold a pose involving moving his arms outward, which doesn't work. With takara's version, they have ratchets there so you can hold more dynamic poses.
I wrote a list of all the upgrades the UW version offers here:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... -04/34421/
For me there was also the idea of principle. Like if I am going to spend this much on a toy, I'd like to get my money's worth. Clearly the voyager sized toys were intended to have elbows, so why not pay the extra bit and open up those poseability options. There's a random tab on Hook's crane that seems to serve no purpose until you get the UW version and see it used as weapon storage in alt mode. It's of course minor, I agree, but I didn't want to get a toy that felt gutted.
Posted by william-james88 on September 29th, 2020 @ 7:52pm CDT
A "small" update from Hasbro, just days after we broke the news...the reissue Combiner Wars Devastator has been delayed to January (everywhere, not just Australia, so it isn't just us this time).
This was posted on Facebook.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 29th, 2020 @ 8:44pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I like trains.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 30th, 2020 @ 4:45am CDT
An Unite Wariors reissue, now that I could think about it.
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 30th, 2020 @ 4:56am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 30th, 2020 @ 5:19am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:All signs point to CW
Argh....
I hated it so I sold mine long ago. But if Takara would pull the rug from under the KO companies feet and make a downsized to standard CW combiner version of their UW set, I'd be all over it.
Posted by cruizerdave on September 30th, 2020 @ 10:01am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 30th, 2020 @ 10:07am CDT
Keeping to their budget?cruizerdave wrote:I mean, what the hell was Hasbro thinking?
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 30th, 2020 @ 10:09am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 30th, 2020 @ 10:59am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 30th, 2020 @ 11:01am CDT
Posted by Crillan on September 30th, 2020 @ 2:57pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 30th, 2020 @ 3:14pm CDT
Fortunately an auction came up on eBay a few weeks later, I was able to get a MIB T30 for just about $200. But the TT reissue would have cost me close to $300, so I was glad.
Don't give up, and be patient. It took me a couple of years of looking before I finally was able to get one. Also understand exactly what it is you want. I was willing to pay up to $200 for a loose complete T30, but I was fortunate with what came across my path.
Everyone is different. If I were still missing Metroplex, I'd be willing to settle for a loose complete one for about $250, and a MIB (of either the hasbro or TT version) I'd be willing to pay probably $350. I know they can list for much higher. I'd pursue getting one as best as possible as opposed to waiting until *who knows when* for another release, or a new toy, which I dont think should happen for at least another 10 years.
But believe me, I know there are limits. There are a few items I've resigned to myself that I'll never own because they are next to impossible to obtain (look at my wish list), or even if they were, would probably be more than I am able to pay for them. Hindsight is a pain in the ass. I had the perfect circumstances also. If I had known BC2016 was going to be the last one. I would have taken out a couple new credit cards, got the golden ticket registration, flown my whole family to Louisville, and signed all 4 of us up for the build-a-figure class. But I digress...
Don't give up searching for your Metroplex, be diligent and patient, and hopefully you can score one.
Posted by partholon on October 3rd, 2020 @ 3:59pm CDT
que the two that happened !
but i had the disposable at the time so im not that upset really
hold out , ya may get it again in few years or so.
i recently dropped the hammer on an encore fort max that big bad toy store got back in recently. ive wanted that lad since i was 16 but thought id lost the chance. he's STILL pricey but ALOT cheaper than the alternatives ive had available up to now (seriously im talking 700+ euro range from other sources PRE postage ! )
in a way im glad Devy has been postponed. covid is fking things RIGHT up economy wise so i cant justify him now till things get better on the financial front. but AFTER the crimbo bonus?
suddenly he's alot more affordable.
i dunno though. ive been using the toy lines lately to fill out all the missing characters i couldnt get back in the g1 days and ive already got g1 devy. right now the main attraction is ive got all the other titans so he's bascially all i need for a complete set.
i probably will. i said i wouldnt get scorponok for the same reason, then he ACTUALLY hit stores in my country so was too cheap to pass up (as well as the whole "scaling with fort max" thing)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 3rd, 2020 @ 4:28pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 3rd, 2020 @ 5:11pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm pretty sure G1 Fortmax will scale well with ER Scorponok. But CW/UW Devastator don't scale with anyone.
Correction, devy scales with Omega Supreme, as it should.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 3rd, 2020 @ 5:20pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm pretty sure G1 Fortmax will scale well with ER Scorponok. But CW/UW Devastator don't scale with anyone.
Correction, devy scales with Omega Supreme, as it should.
Oh? Is that his "official rival"?
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 3rd, 2020 @ 6:00pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on October 3rd, 2020 @ 6:42pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm pretty sure G1 Fortmax will scale well with ER Scorponok. But CW/UW Devastator don't scale with anyone.
Correction, devy scales with Omega Supreme, as it should.
Plus he doesn't look too out of place on an MP shelf.
Emerje
Posted by o.supreme on October 3rd, 2020 @ 7:55pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Yup, more or less thanks to that G1 episode Secret of Omega Supreme
Ahhh my favorite episode. It's cheesy, fun, and has a great ( albeit brief) battle between Omega and Dev. Also the B story in San Francisco was cool also as someone who grew up in the area.
This was my catharsis. Ever since Dev trashed the Dinobots in Heavy Metal War, I had seen Omega in the 85 catalogue, and truly hoped he would be the Autobots answer to a powerful bot. I was not disappointed
Posted by Sabrblade on May 7th, 2021 @ 10:56pm CDT
https://twitter.com/Pete_Sinclair04/status/1390727125121081346