Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire
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As you may remember, we had a pictorial review of Titans Return Windblade a few days ago. Today, we have another review, this time of her wavemate, Misfire, from yours truly.
Titans Return Misfire is the first figure of this character since the original toy in 1987 (not counting a Kreon Micro-Changer in 2014 that was an Autobot for some reason). Thus, unlike Windblade, there aren't many other things to compare him too other than his mold-mate Triggerhappy, so you'll be seeing them side-by-side quite a bit. However, in this case, using the term mold-mate is a stretch, as the two share few parts: Only the legs, elbow joints, shoulder joints, and Titan Master.
Speaking of the Titan Master, let's start by taking a look at the little guy. Other than the face on his back, Aimless is identical to Blowpipe, Triggerhappy's Titan Master. However, Aimless has a greater variety of color, and his face is painted. Like other Titan Masters, Aimless can sit in Misfire's combined guns, though there is no practical way to mount this to the vehicle mode.
Now then, on to the jet mode. I was always thought this was a neat design, so I'm glad it was given all this retooling. As great as Triggerhappy's jet mode is, it just wouldn't fit for Misfire. The cockpit for the Titan Master is one of the most secure of the entire line, and while many have whined about making non-Headmaster characters into Headmasters, I really like the gimmick in vehicle mode. Unfortunately, there is no landing gear. My only real complaint is that the tail of the jet doesn't tab in as securely as I would like. One odd thing I did notice was the lack of any obvious thrusters. Though, given how the top of the shoulders seem to be shaped like intakes, I would assume the forearms serve as the engines. Oh, and the wings have weapon storage, but I don't care for it.
Now, onto the robot mode! The transformation isn't as simple as Windblade's, but it is not as complex or inventive as Triggerhappy's either. Whether or not that's a good thing is up for debate. Personally, I will be displaying the two and Slugslinger together, with Triggerhappy as leader. Thus, having the two underlings share a simpler transformation seems fitting to me. As expected for Misfire, he is very, very pink. However, he does have an impressive amount of paint on him to break up the colors, and the nosecone, wings, shins, and shoulders have tampographs. While his headsculpt is not IDW-accurate like some would hope (especially considering the precedent of IDW-based designs in this line), it's still an okay face that's more based upon his cartoon appearance. However, some of the details are less distinct due to the paint, and once put alongside the rest of the line's heads, the design becomes a bit generic. I'm not sure why they went with lilac 'skin' and Overlordy lips. As seen earlier, he comes with two guns, and while they're pretty nice guns, I find myself setting them aside more often than not. I had the same mentality with Triggerhappy, oddly enough.
The articulation is pretty much the same as Triggerhappy's, so you can get them in all the same poses. Due to the angled nature of the feet, you may need extra support to keep him on one foot, however. Most of the leg joints are a bit looser on Misfire, but that's mostly because my copy of Triggerhappy has very tight joints all around. Misfire is also compatible with most 3mm figure stands, so you can get him in flying and aerial poses.
All in all, it's a pretty fun figure. While he was never going to top Triggerhappy, Misfire is still a good toy in his own right, and I can't wait to have Slugslinger and complete the trio.
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Titans Return Misfire is the first figure of this character since the original toy in 1987 (not counting a Kreon Micro-Changer in 2014 that was an Autobot for some reason). Thus, unlike Windblade, there aren't many other things to compare him too other than his mold-mate Triggerhappy, so you'll be seeing them side-by-side quite a bit. However, in this case, using the term mold-mate is a stretch, as the two share few parts: Only the legs, elbow joints, shoulder joints, and Titan Master.
Speaking of the Titan Master, let's start by taking a look at the little guy. Other than the face on his back, Aimless is identical to Blowpipe, Triggerhappy's Titan Master. However, Aimless has a greater variety of color, and his face is painted. Like other Titan Masters, Aimless can sit in Misfire's combined guns, though there is no practical way to mount this to the vehicle mode.
Now then, on to the jet mode. I was always thought this was a neat design, so I'm glad it was given all this retooling. As great as Triggerhappy's jet mode is, it just wouldn't fit for Misfire. The cockpit for the Titan Master is one of the most secure of the entire line, and while many have whined about making non-Headmaster characters into Headmasters, I really like the gimmick in vehicle mode. Unfortunately, there is no landing gear. My only real complaint is that the tail of the jet doesn't tab in as securely as I would like. One odd thing I did notice was the lack of any obvious thrusters. Though, given how the top of the shoulders seem to be shaped like intakes, I would assume the forearms serve as the engines. Oh, and the wings have weapon storage, but I don't care for it.
Now, onto the robot mode! The transformation isn't as simple as Windblade's, but it is not as complex or inventive as Triggerhappy's either. Whether or not that's a good thing is up for debate. Personally, I will be displaying the two and Slugslinger together, with Triggerhappy as leader. Thus, having the two underlings share a simpler transformation seems fitting to me. As expected for Misfire, he is very, very pink. However, he does have an impressive amount of paint on him to break up the colors, and the nosecone, wings, shins, and shoulders have tampographs. While his headsculpt is not IDW-accurate like some would hope (especially considering the precedent of IDW-based designs in this line), it's still an okay face that's more based upon his cartoon appearance. However, some of the details are less distinct due to the paint, and once put alongside the rest of the line's heads, the design becomes a bit generic. I'm not sure why they went with lilac 'skin' and Overlordy lips. As seen earlier, he comes with two guns, and while they're pretty nice guns, I find myself setting them aside more often than not. I had the same mentality with Triggerhappy, oddly enough.
The articulation is pretty much the same as Triggerhappy's, so you can get them in all the same poses. Due to the angled nature of the feet, you may need extra support to keep him on one foot, however. Most of the leg joints are a bit looser on Misfire, but that's mostly because my copy of Triggerhappy has very tight joints all around. Misfire is also compatible with most 3mm figure stands, so you can get him in flying and aerial poses.
All in all, it's a pretty fun figure. While he was never going to top Triggerhappy, Misfire is still a good toy in his own right, and I can't wait to have Slugslinger and complete the trio.
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Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900807)
Posted by bodrock on July 30th, 2017 @ 12:46pm CDT
Posted by bodrock on July 30th, 2017 @ 12:46pm CDT
Nice review, Sigma -- I like Misfire, and hope to find him in stores. His little TM looks great, and I love that group shot.
I'd also like to pick-up Sluglinger when he's available.
I'd also like to pick-up Sluglinger when he's available.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900811)
Posted by Emerje on July 30th, 2017 @ 1:01pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on July 30th, 2017 @ 1:01pm CDT
I'm rather surprised they bothered to paint Aimless' face, and in two colors as well. Wish Hasbro had shown this kind of attention to detail to more Titan Masters post-wave 1.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900829)
Posted by WreckerJack on July 30th, 2017 @ 2:16pm CDT
Amen to that. I almost wanna paint Fangry's visor a different color than his face. I can't be the only one who is bothered by this.
Posted by WreckerJack on July 30th, 2017 @ 2:16pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I'm rather surprised they bothered to paint Aimless' face, and in two colors as well. Wish Hasbro had shown this kind of attention to detail to more Titan Masters post-wave 1.
Emerje
Amen to that. I almost wanna paint Fangry's visor a different color than his face. I can't be the only one who is bothered by this.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900846)
Posted by Bounti76 on July 30th, 2017 @ 3:56pm CDT
It doesn't bother me, but that's because it's true to his G1 toy. I can genuinely see why it bothers you, though.
Posted by Bounti76 on July 30th, 2017 @ 3:56pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:Emerje wrote:I'm rather surprised they bothered to paint Aimless' face, and in two colors as well. Wish Hasbro had shown this kind of attention to detail to more Titan Masters post-wave 1.
Emerje
Amen to that. I almost wanna paint Fangry's visor a different color than his face. I can't be the only one who is bothered by this.
It doesn't bother me, but that's because it's true to his G1 toy. I can genuinely see why it bothers you, though.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900873)
Posted by Hydrargyrus on July 30th, 2017 @ 8:09pm CDT
Posted by Hydrargyrus on July 30th, 2017 @ 8:09pm CDT
Does he look as... 'mushy' in hand? The glossy pink seems to eat up details and edges in pictures.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900874)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 30th, 2017 @ 8:16pm CDT
Oh no, the detailing is pretty sharp. It was a combination of my camera, and less than ideal lighting. I was hoping for a sunny day, but it was kinda cloudy, so things were a bit darker than I would have liked. The only things that aren't sharp are the parts that are painted, because...well, they're painted. And even then it's not too bad.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 30th, 2017 @ 8:16pm CDT
MagicDeath wrote:Does he look as... 'mushy' in hand? The glossy pink seems to eat up details and edges in pictures.
Oh no, the detailing is pretty sharp. It was a combination of my camera, and less than ideal lighting. I was hoping for a sunny day, but it was kinda cloudy, so things were a bit darker than I would have liked. The only things that aren't sharp are the parts that are painted, because...well, they're painted. And even then it's not too bad.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900885)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 30th, 2017 @ 9:40pm CDT
One of those two has his shorts on backwards. Which one though?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 30th, 2017 @ 9:40pm CDT
One of those two has his shorts on backwards. Which one though?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900887)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 30th, 2017 @ 9:42pm CDT
Aimless, judging by how he just barely won't fold up all the way. Still works fine though.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 30th, 2017 @ 9:42pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
One of those two has his shorts on backwards. Which one though?
Aimless, judging by how he just barely won't fold up all the way. Still works fine though.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900911)
Posted by Bradimus on July 31st, 2017 @ 12:54am CDT
Posted by Bradimus on July 31st, 2017 @ 12:54am CDT
A while back (far back) someone posted a chart of the animal headmasters Takara planned to made but didn't. IIRC this was done during the discussion of Shuffler's retool into Ramhorn and the basis for Ramhorn's Titan Master face. I don't remember if it was in this thread or the Takara thread and I don't remember who shared it. I've tried searching online but I cannot find it. As I would like to see it again and share it with my cousin can someone please provide a link to that post or re-post the chart?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900912)
Posted by RodimusRex on July 31st, 2017 @ 12:59am CDT
Apparently TFormers looked at the name of the image and it LOOKS like Arcee will be in a new Hasbro in-house subscription service ala TFSS.
Posted by RodimusRex on July 31st, 2017 @ 12:59am CDT
Emerje wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Finally, if Arcee will indeed be available later on to everyone, will she still come with Titan Master Ultra Magnus too, or will that be exclusive to the HasCon release?
The belief is that they're packaged together and will be sold that way somewhere else as an exclusive. Wouldn't surprise me if she's a New York Comic-Con exclusive that will go on HTS after NYCC, not after Hascon.
Emerje
Apparently TFormers looked at the name of the image and it LOOKS like Arcee will be in a new Hasbro in-house subscription service ala TFSS.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900914)
Posted by bodrock on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:09am CDT
Hmmmm...if that's the case, I'll have to hunt for this on the aftermarket or be happy with my three incarnations of Arcee (Generations, Legends and BLACK) I currently own.
Posted by bodrock on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:09am CDT
RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Finally, if Arcee will indeed be available later on to everyone, will she still come with Titan Master Ultra Magnus too, or will that be exclusive to the HasCon release?
The belief is that they're packaged together and will be sold that way somewhere else as an exclusive. Wouldn't surprise me if she's a New York Comic-Con exclusive that will go on HTS after NYCC, not after Hascon.
Emerje
Apparently TFormers looked at the name of the image and it LOOKS like Arcee will be in a new Hasbro in-house subscription service ala TFSS.
Hmmmm...if that's the case, I'll have to hunt for this on the aftermarket or be happy with my three incarnations of Arcee (Generations, Legends and BLACK) I currently own.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900917)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:34am CDT
Here it is:
And here are the animal names, some are quite specific:
I: Alligator
J: Dugong
K: Black-banded Sea Krait aka Chinese Sea Snake
L: Kouprey (a type of ox)
M: Malay Flying Lizard aka Common Gliding Lizard
N: Indian Rhino
O: Jackson's Chameleon
P: Bear
Q: Cobra
R: Iguana
S: Chameleon
T: Crocodile
U: Buffalo
V: Wolf
W: Cougar
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:34am CDT
Bradimus wrote:A while back (far back) someone posted a chart of the animal headmasters Takara planned to made but didn't. IIRC this was done during the discussion of Shuffler's retool into Ramhorn and the basis for Ramhorn's Titan Master face. I don't remember if it was in this thread or the Takara thread and I don't remember who shared it. I've tried searching online but I cannot find it. As I would like to see it again and share it with my cousin can someone please provide a link to that post or re-post the chart?
Thank you.
Here it is:
And here are the animal names, some are quite specific:
I: Alligator
J: Dugong
K: Black-banded Sea Krait aka Chinese Sea Snake
L: Kouprey (a type of ox)
M: Malay Flying Lizard aka Common Gliding Lizard
N: Indian Rhino
O: Jackson's Chameleon
P: Bear
Q: Cobra
R: Iguana
S: Chameleon
T: Crocodile
U: Buffalo
V: Wolf
W: Cougar
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900929)
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 4:28am CDT
Uuuuugh. Well this is going to be hell.
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 4:28am CDT
RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Finally, if Arcee will indeed be available later on to everyone, will she still come with Titan Master Ultra Magnus too, or will that be exclusive to the HasCon release?
The belief is that they're packaged together and will be sold that way somewhere else as an exclusive. Wouldn't surprise me if she's a New York Comic-Con exclusive that will go on HTS after NYCC, not after Hascon.
Emerje
Apparently TFormers looked at the name of the image and it LOOKS like Arcee will be in a new Hasbro in-house subscription service ala TFSS.
Uuuuugh. Well this is going to be hell.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900937)
Posted by frogbat on July 31st, 2017 @ 6:31am CDT
Posted by frogbat on July 31st, 2017 @ 6:31am CDT
trigger-happy was and still is my fave TR figure, misfire or Miss Fire as I like to call him/her is a close second. The extra apps on the Titan Masters in this wave were a nice surprise and as others mentioned, it would've been nice to see across all the other waves too.
I like to put his guns on his shoulders to give him an evolved seeker look. In fact, i think the base mode would've worked very well for re-imagined seekers
I like to put his guns on his shoulders to give him an evolved seeker look. In fact, i think the base mode would've worked very well for re-imagined seekers
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900948)
Posted by mordhelm on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:24am CDT
Well, it might not be that bad, if you think about it. Didn't we already hear that the price point will be $30 for this set? That's convention exclusive manufacturer pricing for sure. But it is definitely not TFSS pricing. Those were upwards of $100 for molds that were largely unchanged, just with added paint and head sculpts. For $30, we also get the diecast Titan Master, so arguably it's maybe a 50% premium for Arcee herself.
Personally, I can swallow having to pay a small premium for a figure like this if it's an exclusive as such. I couldn't justify paying 3-5x as much (depending how long I waited) for the TFSS figures.
Maybe this is also the way we get the figures that can't really get at there proper size classes. For instance, Snapdragon and Apeface, both have the added trouble of being "double Headmasters". Maybe they become a $40 voyager size with the extra titan master part for the beast head, but are convention exclusive. Would that be ok?
Posted by mordhelm on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:24am CDT
Kurona wrote:RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Finally, if Arcee will indeed be available later on to everyone, will she still come with Titan Master Ultra Magnus too, or will that be exclusive to the HasCon release?
The belief is that they're packaged together and will be sold that way somewhere else as an exclusive. Wouldn't surprise me if she's a New York Comic-Con exclusive that will go on HTS after NYCC, not after Hascon.
Emerje
Apparently TFormers looked at the name of the image and it LOOKS like Arcee will be in a new Hasbro in-house subscription service ala TFSS.
Uuuuugh. Well this is going to be hell.
Well, it might not be that bad, if you think about it. Didn't we already hear that the price point will be $30 for this set? That's convention exclusive manufacturer pricing for sure. But it is definitely not TFSS pricing. Those were upwards of $100 for molds that were largely unchanged, just with added paint and head sculpts. For $30, we also get the diecast Titan Master, so arguably it's maybe a 50% premium for Arcee herself.
Personally, I can swallow having to pay a small premium for a figure like this if it's an exclusive as such. I couldn't justify paying 3-5x as much (depending how long I waited) for the TFSS figures.
Maybe this is also the way we get the figures that can't really get at there proper size classes. For instance, Snapdragon and Apeface, both have the added trouble of being "double Headmasters". Maybe they become a $40 voyager size with the extra titan master part for the beast head, but are convention exclusive. Would that be ok?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900950)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:26am CDT
I can't remember where, but I think I saw where Arcee was only going to be $25. I know io9 had $30, but I think the promotional info from Hasbro themselves said $25.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:26am CDT
mordhelm wrote:Kurona wrote:RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Finally, if Arcee will indeed be available later on to everyone, will she still come with Titan Master Ultra Magnus too, or will that be exclusive to the HasCon release?
The belief is that they're packaged together and will be sold that way somewhere else as an exclusive. Wouldn't surprise me if she's a New York Comic-Con exclusive that will go on HTS after NYCC, not after Hascon.
Emerje
Apparently TFormers looked at the name of the image and it LOOKS like Arcee will be in a new Hasbro in-house subscription service ala TFSS.
Uuuuugh. Well this is going to be hell.
Well, it might not be that bad, if you think about it. Didn't we already hear that the price point will be $30 for this set? That's convention exclusive manufacturer pricing for sure. But it is definitely not TFSS pricing. Those were upwards of $100 for molds that were largely unchanged, just with added paint and head sculpts. For $30, we also get the diecast Titan Master, so arguably it's maybe a 50% premium for Arcee herself.
Personally, I can swallow having to pay a small premium for a figure like this if it's an exclusive as such. I couldn't justify paying 3-5x as much (depending how long I waited) for the TFSS figures.
Maybe this is also the way we get the figures that can't really get at there proper size classes. For instance, Snapdragon and Apeface, both have the added trouble of being "double Headmasters". Maybe they become a $40 voyager size with the extra titan master part for the beast head, but are convention exclusive. Would that be ok?
I can't remember where, but I think I saw where Arcee was only going to be $25. I know io9 had $30, but I think the promotional info from Hasbro themselves said $25.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900951)
Posted by Insurgent on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:41am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:41am CDT
The Horrorcons being headmasters for robot and beast only work if they make it just like G1. I'm sure they could get around that by having the beast heads flip out of their chests or something, thus only needing one titanmaster. Which I would prefer.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900953)
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:45am CDT
It's more my being in the UK that makes this frustrating.
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:45am CDT
mordhelm wrote:Well, it might not be that bad, if you think about it. Didn't we already hear that the price point will be $30 for this set? That's convention exclusive manufacturer pricing for sure. But it is definitely not TFSS pricing. Those were upwards of $100 for molds that were largely unchanged, just with added paint and head sculpts. For $30, we also get the diecast Titan Master, so arguably it's maybe a 50% premium for Arcee herself.
Personally, I can swallow having to pay a small premium for a figure like this if it's an exclusive as such. I couldn't justify paying 3-5x as much (depending how long I waited) for the TFSS figures.
It's more my being in the UK that makes this frustrating.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900955)
Posted by mordhelm on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:54am CDT
Ah, that does make it a bit more difficult (meaning significantly more money too) to obtain the exclusive figures.
Maybe you will get lucky and they will have some sort of overseas distribution.
Posted by mordhelm on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:54am CDT
Kurona wrote:It's more my being in the UK that makes this frustrating.
Ah, that does make it a bit more difficult (meaning significantly more money too) to obtain the exclusive figures.
Maybe you will get lucky and they will have some sort of overseas distribution.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900987)
Posted by Hero Alpha on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:10am CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:10am CDT
I dont know how they would/are going to do it but, I just want Apeface and Snapdragon figures. Since we know they are not in the last wave of Titans Return, plus have been told that no headmasters in PotP, under normal circumstances no headmaster Horrorcons for a while. Like everyone has said its a shame since triple-changing headmasters is what the voyagers were all about in TR. If they cant find a way to make bot and beast head work with one headmaster, I would be fine with a beast helmet type deal where the headmaster fits inside. Its not ideal but better than them not being headmasters at all and turned into powermaster armour types.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900989)
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:17am CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:17am CDT
So I'm very curious: where'd the huge love for Apeface and Snapdragon come from?
Don't get me wrong; this isn't a post saying you're dumb or whatever for wanting them or that you shouldn't want them. That would be stupid; you're allowed to like whatever you like -- and honestly I don't think I'd mind them either. But it's certainly curious to me when they didn't seem to be the most popular characters before, and they were obscure even when the Headmasters got their huge advertising push in '87. Were they just that amazing in the Headmasters anime, is it a love for the toys, or something else?
Don't get me wrong; this isn't a post saying you're dumb or whatever for wanting them or that you shouldn't want them. That would be stupid; you're allowed to like whatever you like -- and honestly I don't think I'd mind them either. But it's certainly curious to me when they didn't seem to be the most popular characters before, and they were obscure even when the Headmasters got their huge advertising push in '87. Were they just that amazing in the Headmasters anime, is it a love for the toys, or something else?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900993)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT
It's more the anticipation of the two relatively obscure characters getting their proper dues and treatment, especially with the combination of the Titans Return Headmaster gimmick, and the Triple Changing gimmick of the Voyager Class.
It is quite disappointing to see Hasbro and TakaraTomy not seizing the opportunity to make either character, but I can't say I'm that surprised honestly. Would be a nice question to ask at HasCon : "With the combination of the Headmaster and Triple Changer gimmick in the Titans Return Voyager Class, were the Horrorcons Apeface and Snapdragon ever considered for that range?"
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT
Kurona wrote:So I'm very curious: where'd the huge love for Apeface and Snapdragon come from?
Don't get me wrong; this isn't a post saying you're dumb or whatever for wanting them or that you shouldn't want them. That would be stupid; you're allowed to like whatever you like -- and honestly I don't think I'd mind them either. But it's certainly curious to me when they didn't seem to be the most popular characters before, and they were obscure even when the Headmasters got their huge advertising push in '87. Were they just that amazing in the Headmasters anime, is it a love for the toys, or something else?
It's more the anticipation of the two relatively obscure characters getting their proper dues and treatment, especially with the combination of the Titans Return Headmaster gimmick, and the Triple Changing gimmick of the Voyager Class.
It is quite disappointing to see Hasbro and TakaraTomy not seizing the opportunity to make either character, but I can't say I'm that surprised honestly. Would be a nice question to ask at HasCon : "With the combination of the Headmaster and Triple Changer gimmick in the Titans Return Voyager Class, were the Horrorcons Apeface and Snapdragon ever considered for that range?"
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1900995)
Posted by Insurgent on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:36am CDT
I think it's because it's the 87 line getting done in the current classics line and there is a gimmick that is perfectly suited to them. Nay, a gimmick that was their gimmick back in 87. It's like having a line all about the Primes without having space campervan Rodimus in. I know I didn't care about them until the TR voyagers were revealed to be a line wide Horrorcon gimmick. Do I want them? Yes. Is it purely because of the reason I stated? Yes. Do I care if they are in a different size class and thus not have their gimmick? Yes. Would I get them if they were in another size and didn't have their gimmicks? No. Except I have the titan master apeface. But he was such a cute monkey. Am I a hypocryte based on what I just wrote? Yes. Yes I am.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901001)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:49am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:49am CDT
People want what they cant have, especially when it's components of a group that didn't make it onto the mass market like the rest did (a lot of people view the Horrorcons as part of the full team of 1987 Decepticon Headmasters).Kurona wrote:So I'm very curious: where'd the huge love for Apeface and Snapdragon come from?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901026)
Posted by o.supreme on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:00pm CDT
Well yeah...and there's this
Posted by o.supreme on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:00pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:People want what they cant have, especially when it's components of a group that didn't make it onto the mass market like the rest did (a lot of people view the Horrorcons as part of the full team of 1987 Decepticon Headmasters).
Well yeah...and there's this
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Posted by bodrock on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:32pm CDT
I only went 3/5ths on dat pile-up, o.supreme!Piling on G1 Apeface & Snapdragon woulda been impossibru!
But maybe TM Apeface, if I had picked him up....I'm neutral on getting updates to them, but I can see why others would like to see 'em.
Posted by bodrock on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:32pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:People want what they cant have, especially when it's components of a group that didn't make it onto the mass market like the rest did (a lot of people view the Horrorcons as part of the full team of 1987 Decepticon Headmasters).
Well yeah...and there's this
I only went 3/5ths on dat pile-up, o.supreme!Piling on G1 Apeface & Snapdragon woulda been impossibru!
But maybe TM Apeface, if I had picked him up....I'm neutral on getting updates to them, but I can see why others would like to see 'em.
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Posted by Rysquad on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:36pm CDT
I really just want the Ultra Magnus Titan Master. Looks like I'll be checking eBay in September.
Posted by Rysquad on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:36pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:mordhelm wrote:Kurona wrote:RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Finally, if Arcee will indeed be available later on to everyone, will she still come with Titan Master Ultra Magnus too, or will that be exclusive to the HasCon release?
The belief is that they're packaged together and will be sold that way somewhere else as an exclusive. Wouldn't surprise me if she's a New York Comic-Con exclusive that will go on HTS after NYCC, not after Hascon.
Emerje
Apparently TFormers looked at the name of the image and it LOOKS like Arcee will be in a new Hasbro in-house subscription service ala TFSS.
Uuuuugh. Well this is going to be hell.
Well, it might not be that bad, if you think about it. Didn't we already hear that the price point will be $30 for this set? That's convention exclusive manufacturer pricing for sure. But it is definitely not TFSS pricing. Those were upwards of $100 for molds that were largely unchanged, just with added paint and head sculpts. For $30, we also get the diecast Titan Master, so arguably it's maybe a 50% premium for Arcee herself.
Personally, I can swallow having to pay a small premium for a figure like this if it's an exclusive as such. I couldn't justify paying 3-5x as much (depending how long I waited) for the TFSS figures.
Maybe this is also the way we get the figures that can't really get at there proper size classes. For instance, Snapdragon and Apeface, both have the added trouble of being "double Headmasters". Maybe they become a $40 voyager size with the extra titan master part for the beast head, but are convention exclusive. Would that be ok?
I can't remember where, but I think I saw where Arcee was only going to be $25. I know io9 had $30, but I think the promotional info from Hasbro themselves said $25.
I really just want the Ultra Magnus Titan Master. Looks like I'll be checking eBay in September.
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Posted by o.supreme on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:37pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:37pm CDT
Well yeah, the Headmaster 'Cons actually had that Totem working, until Apceface & Snapdragon tried to join in, and hilarity ensued! 
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Posted by homicide on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:39pm CDT
Yea, you're absolutely right, her head looks too small for her body. To make it worse it's something I can't unsee now, every time I look at it it's just painfully glaring now. Really unfortunate because the detail put into her face really is great!
Posted by homicide on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:39pm CDT
MadProject wrote:homicide wrote:For the most part I think this new Windblade looks good, but the thing that's really bugging me are her legs, they look way too thick & stocky for a female character. I haven't seen anyone else mention this, is it just me?
I think the main problem with this Winblade are not the legs, but the head.
In order to fit all the details of the face and hair they had to shrunk it down a lot, and the face ended being too small compared to the rest of the body.
I have the feeling the legs are too square, instead of big, while the overall too bigness of the limbs is due the head being too small.
Can we have a pic of Windblade featuring another headmaster?
Yea, you're absolutely right, her head looks too small for her body. To make it worse it's something I can't unsee now, every time I look at it it's just painfully glaring now. Really unfortunate because the detail put into her face really is great!
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Posted by Relic0037 on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:50pm CDT
To throw my 2 cents in, I would get Apeface and Snapdragon if proper figures were made. They would go well with my Decepticon Headmasters collection. At the same time there are many other major characters (Scorponok!!!) that I would rather see represented with a modern update first.
Posted by Relic0037 on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:50pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:People want what they cant have, especially when it's components of a group that didn't make it onto the mass market like the rest did (a lot of people view the Horrorcons as part of the full team of 1987 Decepticon Headmasters).
Well yeah...and there's this
To throw my 2 cents in, I would get Apeface and Snapdragon if proper figures were made. They would go well with my Decepticon Headmasters collection. At the same time there are many other major characters (Scorponok!!!) that I would rather see represented with a modern update first.
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Posted by mordhelm on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:54pm CDT
Posted by mordhelm on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:54pm CDT
Regarding the "why Apeface and Snapdragon" question, my answer is simply completionism.
I really want to have the entirety of the G1 bots I loved so much available in CHUG scale, with CHUG articulation.
I am not necessarily a G1 purist by any means, but that is what I grew up with (and G2). Beast Wars is also something near and dear to me, so I would be happy to have those as well. Buuut... I was fortunate enough to have gotten nearly all the Beast Wars characters before it went into Transmetals and Fuzors, etc. The problem there is that, those versions already have the articulation I want in such a toy, so I am less inclined to feel as though new BW characters are a need.
So for it comes down to wanting those characters with the articulation found in a newer designed toy. And yes, if there was a gimmick to that particular toy/character, I would prefer that the new toy retains said gimmick.
I really want to have the entirety of the G1 bots I loved so much available in CHUG scale, with CHUG articulation.
I am not necessarily a G1 purist by any means, but that is what I grew up with (and G2). Beast Wars is also something near and dear to me, so I would be happy to have those as well. Buuut... I was fortunate enough to have gotten nearly all the Beast Wars characters before it went into Transmetals and Fuzors, etc. The problem there is that, those versions already have the articulation I want in such a toy, so I am less inclined to feel as though new BW characters are a need.
So for it comes down to wanting those characters with the articulation found in a newer designed toy. And yes, if there was a gimmick to that particular toy/character, I would prefer that the new toy retains said gimmick.
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Posted by bodrock on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:57pm CDT
LOL yeah, they could have made the totem a fun, exclusive set!
And I'm with mordhelm -- the updates I want also skew towards G1 (also, pre-BW), due to the desire for a lot more articulation.
Posted by bodrock on July 31st, 2017 @ 1:57pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Well yeah, the Headmaster 'Cons actually had that Totem working, until Apceface & Snapdragon tried to join in, and hilarity ensued!
LOL yeah, they could have made the totem a fun, exclusive set!
And I'm with mordhelm -- the updates I want also skew towards G1 (also, pre-BW), due to the desire for a lot more articulation.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901051)
Posted by o.supreme on July 31st, 2017 @ 2:18pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 31st, 2017 @ 2:18pm CDT
So, since its been announced basically that Slugslinger is the only *Regular* new figure left to be released...I guess we can play a fun hypothetical..
WHAT WOULD YOUR IDEAL TITANS RETURN WAVE 6 HAVE BEEN?
Here's what I would have liked to have seen:
Titan Masters:
Toraizer
Slugfest
Grotusque
Beastbox
Legends:
Rumble
Eject
Ransack
Venom
Deluxe:
Slugslinger
Pointplank
Crosshairs
Sureshot
Voyagers:
Apeface
Snapdragon
Leaders:
Dai Atlas
Greatshot
God Bomber
*(I know there is no precedent for 3 leaders in one wave, but I'm just throwing out what would be easiest among existing molds)
WHAT WOULD YOUR IDEAL TITANS RETURN WAVE 6 HAVE BEEN?
Here's what I would have liked to have seen:
Titan Masters:
Toraizer
Slugfest
Grotusque
Beastbox
Legends:
Rumble
Eject
Ransack
Venom
Deluxe:
Slugslinger
Pointplank
Crosshairs
Sureshot
Voyagers:
Apeface
Snapdragon
Leaders:
Dai Atlas
Greatshot
God Bomber
*(I know there is no precedent for 3 leaders in one wave, but I'm just throwing out what would be easiest among existing molds)
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 31st, 2017 @ 2:32pm CDT
Yeah, it's the set completion thing. The Horrorcons are part of the 87 lineup. While The Headmasters is where they showed up the most, they did still appear and play a significant role in "The Rebirth", with Snapdragon being the one to blame for the mortal wound that forced Daniel to become a Headmaster Partner.
But the Horrorcons still aren't as popular or well-known as prior Triple Changers like Blitzwing, Astrotrain, Octane, Broadside and Galvatron (though he's less well-known as a triple-changer because the fiction neglected that), and they don't seem to lend themselves to being moldmates with anyone to get more value, so they might not have even been up for consideration. And even if they were, there's the dilemma I brought up: Deciding the best way to integrate or compromise on their full gimmick within the constraints of Titans Return. Can you take the plunge and pick one of the possible approaches, or do you get stuck agonizing over the choice? Or do you perhaps decide to wait until the marching orders change and you don't have those particular constraints anymore?
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 31st, 2017 @ 2:32pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:People want what they cant have, especially when it's components of a group that didn't make it onto the mass market like the rest did (a lot of people view the Horrorcons as part of the full team of 1987 Decepticon Headmasters).Kurona wrote:So I'm very curious: where'd the huge love for Apeface and Snapdragon come from?
Yeah, it's the set completion thing. The Horrorcons are part of the 87 lineup. While The Headmasters is where they showed up the most, they did still appear and play a significant role in "The Rebirth", with Snapdragon being the one to blame for the mortal wound that forced Daniel to become a Headmaster Partner.
But the Horrorcons still aren't as popular or well-known as prior Triple Changers like Blitzwing, Astrotrain, Octane, Broadside and Galvatron (though he's less well-known as a triple-changer because the fiction neglected that), and they don't seem to lend themselves to being moldmates with anyone to get more value, so they might not have even been up for consideration. And even if they were, there's the dilemma I brought up: Deciding the best way to integrate or compromise on their full gimmick within the constraints of Titans Return. Can you take the plunge and pick one of the possible approaches, or do you get stuck agonizing over the choice? Or do you perhaps decide to wait until the marching orders change and you don't have those particular constraints anymore?
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Posted by Relic0037 on July 31st, 2017 @ 2:45pm CDT
The Autobot Targetmasters are the biggest oversight, in my opinion, especially since we got their 3 Decepticon counterparts. God Bomber is already available, you just have to import him. Greatshot, Dai Atlas, & the Horrorcons are all figures I would have picked up. Hopefully, we get some of these eventually.
Posted by Relic0037 on July 31st, 2017 @ 2:45pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:So, since its been announced basically that Slugslinger is the only *Regular* new figure left to be released...I guess we can play a fun hypothetical..
WHAT WOULD YOUR IDEAL TITANS RETURN WAVE 6 HAVE BEEN?
Here's what I would have liked to have seen:
Titan Masters:
Toraizer
Slugfest
Grotusque
Beastbox
Legends:
Rumble
Eject
Ransack
Venom
Deluxe:
Slugslinger
Pointplank
Crosshairs
Sureshot
Voyagers:
Apeface
Snapdragon
Leaders:
Dai Atlas
Greatshot
God Bomber
*(I know there is no precedent for 3 leaders in one wave, but I'm just throwing out what would be easiest among existing molds)
The Autobot Targetmasters are the biggest oversight, in my opinion, especially since we got their 3 Decepticon counterparts. God Bomber is already available, you just have to import him. Greatshot, Dai Atlas, & the Horrorcons are all figures I would have picked up. Hopefully, we get some of these eventually.
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Posted by Emerje on July 31st, 2017 @ 3:00pm CDT
This right here.
Once I realized the Horrorcon heads only look good from one direction and that Titan Masters are too small to do it better, I figured animal helmets were the answer. I really thought Six Shot was a preview of this the way the Titan Master slips into the wolf head, but apparently it wasn't meant to be.
On that note, I've finally listened to the latest Twincast Podcast and heard the interview audio for myself. The way it's said in the interview it really does seem to be true that Sluggslinger is the only new figure in all of Wave 6 across all classes. That would mean Titan Masters Toraizer and Optimus Primal were canceled and the Amazon listing was an error based on old info rather than jumping the gun on an upcoming release.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on July 31st, 2017 @ 3:00pm CDT
Moonshot wrote: If they cant find a way to make bot and beast head work with one headmaster, I would be fine with a beast helmet type deal where the headmaster fits inside.
This right here.
Once I realized the Horrorcon heads only look good from one direction and that Titan Masters are too small to do it better, I figured animal helmets were the answer. I really thought Six Shot was a preview of this the way the Titan Master slips into the wolf head, but apparently it wasn't meant to be.
On that note, I've finally listened to the latest Twincast Podcast and heard the interview audio for myself. The way it's said in the interview it really does seem to be true that Sluggslinger is the only new figure in all of Wave 6 across all classes. That would mean Titan Masters Toraizer and Optimus Primal were canceled and the Amazon listing was an error based on old info rather than jumping the gun on an upcoming release.
Emerje
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Posted by bodrock on July 31st, 2017 @ 3:04pm CDT
Posted by bodrock on July 31st, 2017 @ 3:04pm CDT
My Wave Sixers....
Titan Masters:
Ratbat
Slugfest
Legends:
Rumble
The Triggercons!
Deluxe:
Punch/Counterpunch
Grotesque
Wreckgar
Transtectors for bodiless TMs (Repugnus!)
Slugslinger
Spinister
Squeezeplay
Titans:
Scorponok
Titan Masters:
Ratbat
Slugfest
Legends:
Rumble
The Triggercons!
Deluxe:
Punch/Counterpunch
Grotesque
Wreckgar
Transtectors for bodiless TMs (Repugnus!)
Slugslinger
Spinister
Squeezeplay
Titans:
Scorponok
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Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 3:37pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 3:37pm CDT
My ideal Wave 6:-
Have it stay as it is and give us a Wave 7
Have it stay as it is and give us a Wave 7
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Posted by Rysquad on July 31st, 2017 @ 5:07pm CDT
Of course - not following any of the fiction/stories associated with the Prime Wars Trilogy..
Titan Masters:
Squawktalk
Wingthing
Blot
Searchlight
Legends:
Playback
Sundor
Gears
Deluxe:
Joyride with Hotwire
Sureshot with Sport
Barricade with Enemy
Windburn with Darkray
Voyagers:
Laser Ultra Magnus (from Voyager Optimus/Laser Prime)
Galvatron (re-release)
Leader:
God Bomber
Posted by Rysquad on July 31st, 2017 @ 5:07pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:So, since its been announced basically that Slugslinger is the only *Regular* new figure left to be released...I guess we can play a fun hypothetical..
WHAT WOULD YOUR IDEAL TITANS RETURN WAVE 6 HAVE BEEN?
Here's what I would have liked to have seen:
Titan Masters:
Toraizer
Slugfest
Grotusque
Beastbox
Legends:
Rumble
Eject
Ransack
Venom
Deluxe:
Slugslinger
Pointplank
Crosshairs
Sureshot
Voyagers:
Apeface
Snapdragon
Leaders:
Dai Atlas
Greatshot
God Bomber
*(I know there is no precedent for 3 leaders in one wave, but I'm just throwing out what would be easiest among existing molds)
Of course - not following any of the fiction/stories associated with the Prime Wars Trilogy..
Titan Masters:
Squawktalk
Wingthing
Blot
Searchlight
Legends:
Playback
Sundor
Gears
Deluxe:
Joyride with Hotwire
Sureshot with Sport
Barricade with Enemy
Windburn with Darkray
Voyagers:
Laser Ultra Magnus (from Voyager Optimus/Laser Prime)
Galvatron (re-release)
Leader:
God Bomber
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901086)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 31st, 2017 @ 5:25pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 31st, 2017 @ 5:25pm CDT
If this Hasbro Transformers Subscription Service thing turns out to be real, maybe that's where Hasbro intends to release what we would have liked to have seen at the tail end of Titans Return? It might also be where some more of the planned box sets end up, split up, of course, as seems to be the case with Titans Return Arcee with Titan Master Ultra Magnus. My guess is that Hasbro wants to debut this idea at HasCon, but didn't have enough time to plan out new and worthwhile figures for this service, so they picked from the end of what was originally planned for Titans Return, and just pushed up Power of the Primes to make sure new product was on shelves for the holiday shopping season. Slugslinger probably barely made the cut in Wave 6 just to let consumers complete the Decepticon Targetmaster trio without having to invest in this whole new premium distribution channel.
If Arcee with Ultra Magnus are the "preview" for this service, with their availability at HasCon meant to entice people to sign up for the full service, I would expect at least another Titans Return deluxe figure with the "Firepower" die-cast Titan Master paired with it. It would be a great place to put in some potentially one-shot molds too, like Apeface and Snapdragon, since Hasbro can charge a higher price for molds that aren't likely to be reused. Likewise, some more remolds/repaints into the Autobot Targetmasters would be a smart move too. Maybe they could be paired up with some of the remaining expected Titan Masters, like Toraizer and Grotesque.
If Arcee with Ultra Magnus are the "preview" for this service, with their availability at HasCon meant to entice people to sign up for the full service, I would expect at least another Titans Return deluxe figure with the "Firepower" die-cast Titan Master paired with it. It would be a great place to put in some potentially one-shot molds too, like Apeface and Snapdragon, since Hasbro can charge a higher price for molds that aren't likely to be reused. Likewise, some more remolds/repaints into the Autobot Targetmasters would be a smart move too. Maybe they could be paired up with some of the remaining expected Titan Masters, like Toraizer and Grotesque.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901096)
Posted by Rysquad on July 31st, 2017 @ 6:08pm CDT
Almost every article I've seen quoting the Hasbro HasCon exclusives toys says Arcee/Ultra Magnus getting a "wider" release later.
I could totally be wrong but I don't see a subscription-like service qualifying as a "wide" release.
Posted by Rysquad on July 31st, 2017 @ 6:08pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:If this Hasbro Transformers Subscription Service thing turns out to be real, maybe that's where Hasbro intends to release what we would have liked to have seen at the tail end of Titans Return? It might also be where some more of the planned box sets end up, split up, of course, as seems to be the case with Titans Return Arcee with Titan Master Ultra Magnus. My guess is that Hasbro wants to debut this idea at HasCon, but didn't have enough time to plan out new and worthwhile figures for this service, so they picked from the end of what was originally planned for Titans Return, and just pushed up Power of the Primes to make sure new product was on shelves for the holiday shopping season. Slugslinger probably barely made the cut in Wave 6 just to let consumers complete the Decepticon Targetmaster trio without having to invest in this whole new premium distribution channel.
If Arcee with Ultra Magnus are the "preview" for this service, with their availability at HasCon meant to entice people to sign up for the full service, I would expect at least another Titans Return deluxe figure with the "Firepower" die-cast Titan Master paired with it. It would be a great place to put in some potentially one-shot molds too, like Apeface and Snapdragon, since Hasbro can charge a higher price for molds that aren't likely to be reused. Likewise, some more remolds/repaints into the Autobot Targetmasters would be a smart move too. Maybe they could be paired up with some of the remaining expected Titan Masters, like Toraizer and Grotesque.
Almost every article I've seen quoting the Hasbro HasCon exclusives toys says Arcee/Ultra Magnus getting a "wider" release later.
I could totally be wrong but I don't see a subscription-like service qualifying as a "wide" release.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901098)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on July 31st, 2017 @ 6:11pm CDT
to whom ever wanted to see TR Windblade with the swords on backwards in jet mode so the points are pointing backwards here you go
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on July 31st, 2017 @ 6:11pm CDT
to whom ever wanted to see TR Windblade with the swords on backwards in jet mode so the points are pointing backwards here you go
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901101)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:04pm CDT
Arcee and Ultra Magnus could be more of an example too, instead of a part of the subscription service proper. They could even come with an advertisement for the subscription figures, complete with a mini catalogue showing off what is to be available. I really hope I'm on to something with this. It seems like a really clever move for Hasbro to make.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:04pm CDT
Rysquad wrote:Almost every article I've seen quoting the Hasbro HasCon exclusives toys says Arcee/Ultra Magnus getting a "wider" release later.
I could totally be wrong but I don't see a subscription-like service qualifying as a "wide" release.
Arcee and Ultra Magnus could be more of an example too, instead of a part of the subscription service proper. They could even come with an advertisement for the subscription figures, complete with a mini catalogue showing off what is to be available. I really hope I'm on to something with this. It seems like a really clever move for Hasbro to make.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901102)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:19pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:19pm CDT
Anybody know if Hasbro still puts their instructions up online?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901123)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:10pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:10pm CDT
I'm happy about the reissues, but if we were to have more new molds + recolors.. (mind you, the Minibots and cassette cast still have a chance under PotP):
Titan Master:
Legends:
Deluxe:
Voyager:
Not sure here right off
Leader:
Thing is, Sixshot is a Leader-class figure with the plastic and engineering allocations thereof.
To pull that off at the Voyager price point. they'd have to sacrifice an accessory. Otherwise all they could get away with is a flip-out cover panel to try covering the robot face with. And again, that's assuming the Horrorcons were even on the table.
Amusingly, the Crashbash/Overboard dino mode kinda steals Snapdragon's schtick, with the TM's legs forming the jaw.
Now, if we were to get Horrorcons where Spasma and Krunk could be their vintage size or at least the same size as T30 Arcana, that would be something. Spasma's legs could turn to hide the robot face and Krunk could have a panel to pull down over Snapdragon's robot-mode mug.
Titan Master:
- Outback
Grotusque (from Fangry)
Hound or Rook (from Brawn)
Offroad (from Brawn)
Look, Brawn's vehicle has a really good gun mode, alright?
Somebody who turns into a horse's head somehow, purely for the sake of doing something silly with another character based on a typo
Legends:
- Outback
Cliffjumper
Huffer
Rumble. Er, sorry, Frenzy since TR stuck to the original toys' name-color matchup
Eject
Ratbat
Tape Tablet!Ramhorn
Deluxe:
- Ratchet
Ironhide (The idea of Headmaster versions of these two amuses me. Think about it. Plus if they transformed akin to the G1 toys that would work well with Titan Masters.)
Springer (granted, he might have a shot under PotP)
Hound, maybe (for the interactivity with TMs)
The Autobot Targetmasters I suppose.
Hosehead
Full versions of Nightbeat and Siren
Voyager:
Not sure here right off
Leader:
- Rodimus Prime that transforms like the original, with a Voyager-height cab robot (to go with TR Galvatron)
Soundblaster (though I doubt a retool to incorporate one of the original SB's differences would be feasible)
Twincast (ditto)
Apex Bomber (Retooled from GB at least to have PARTSFORMING WINGS and ideally to go with Hasbro PMOP)
Emerje wrote:Moonshot wrote: If they cant find a way to make bot and beast head work with one headmaster, I would be fine with a beast helmet type deal where the headmaster fits inside.
This right here.
Once I realized the Horrorcon heads only look good from one direction and that Titan Masters are too small to do it better, I figured animal helmets were the answer. I really thought Six Shot was a preview of this the way the Titan Master slips into the wolf head, but apparently it wasn't meant to be.
Emerje
Thing is, Sixshot is a Leader-class figure with the plastic and engineering allocations thereof.
To pull that off at the Voyager price point. they'd have to sacrifice an accessory. Otherwise all they could get away with is a flip-out cover panel to try covering the robot face with. And again, that's assuming the Horrorcons were even on the table.
Amusingly, the Crashbash/Overboard dino mode kinda steals Snapdragon's schtick, with the TM's legs forming the jaw.
Now, if we were to get Horrorcons where Spasma and Krunk could be their vintage size or at least the same size as T30 Arcana, that would be something. Spasma's legs could turn to hide the robot face and Krunk could have a panel to pull down over Snapdragon's robot-mode mug.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901129)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:33pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:33pm CDT
Regarding the Chromia talk a few page back, I liked her thrilling 30 toy, and I really need to get another one, this time for myself and not someone who didn't really respect her and then kept her.
Still like my T30 Arcee more too. This one looks alright, but I really like the T30 design. And that one looks good riding Sky Lynx into battle.
I have Leader Magnus, so no Titan master Magnus for me, but looking at it, all we need is a Springer Titan master or figure and we'll have a whole new 1986 movie cast to talk about from Titans return
Still like my T30 Arcee more too. This one looks alright, but I really like the T30 design. And that one looks good riding Sky Lynx into battle.
I have Leader Magnus, so no Titan master Magnus for me, but looking at it, all we need is a Springer Titan master or figure and we'll have a whole new 1986 movie cast to talk about from Titans return
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901142)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 31st, 2017 @ 10:12pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 31st, 2017 @ 10:12pm CDT
When attached backwards like that... they look like a couple of strafing bazookas.GalvatronG1 wrote:
to whom ever wanted to see TR Windblade with the swords on backwards in jet mode so the points are pointing backwards here you go
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901145)
Posted by Emerje on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:15pm CDT
That was me, thanks. I actually don't think that looks too bad. They can go back a little further where the halves of the seat are can't they? And what about combined and centered under the cockpit?
This I would believe. It makes sense as a preview, but not as the first set of the subscription, otherwise people who subscribe after getting this are going to end up with two.
You're overthinking this. Alpha Trion has those huge pylons to complete his head and still managed to include a sword and a gun while having both beast and vehicle modes. Replace one of those pylons with a partial beast mode head and you aren't using any more plastic than the Horrorcons would. It's not like either one has big wings or anything in jet mode.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:15pm CDT
GalvatronG1 wrote:
to whom ever wanted to see TR Windblade with the swords on backwards in jet mode so the points are pointing backwards here you go
That was me, thanks. I actually don't think that looks too bad. They can go back a little further where the halves of the seat are can't they? And what about combined and centered under the cockpit?
Wolfman Jake wrote:Rysquad wrote:Almost every article I've seen quoting the Hasbro HasCon exclusives toys says Arcee/Ultra Magnus getting a "wider" release later.
I could totally be wrong but I don't see a subscription-like service qualifying as a "wide" release.
Arcee and Ultra Magnus could be more of an example too, instead of a part of the subscription service proper. They could even come with an advertisement for the subscription figures, complete with a mini catalogue showing off what is to be available. I really hope I'm on to something with this. It seems like a really clever move for Hasbro to make.
This I would believe. It makes sense as a preview, but not as the first set of the subscription, otherwise people who subscribe after getting this are going to end up with two.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Emerje wrote:Moonshot wrote: If they cant find a way to make bot and beast head work with one headmaster, I would be fine with a beast helmet type deal where the headmaster fits inside.
This right here.
Once I realized the Horrorcon heads only look good from one direction and that Titan Masters are too small to do it better, I figured animal helmets were the answer. I really thought Six Shot was a preview of this the way the Titan Master slips into the wolf head, but apparently it wasn't meant to be.
Emerje
Thing is, Sixshot is a Leader-class figure with the plastic and engineering allocations thereof.
To pull that off at the Voyager price point. they'd have to sacrifice an accessory. Otherwise all they could get away with is a flip-out cover panel to try covering the robot face with. And again, that's assuming the Horrorcons were even on the table.
You're overthinking this. Alpha Trion has those huge pylons to complete his head and still managed to include a sword and a gun while having both beast and vehicle modes. Replace one of those pylons with a partial beast mode head and you aren't using any more plastic than the Horrorcons would. It's not like either one has big wings or anything in jet mode.
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901154)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on August 1st, 2017 @ 12:00am CDT
why do you sign your posts like this anyways, we know who is posting the posts,
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on August 1st, 2017 @ 12:00am CDT
Emerje wrote:That was me, thanks. I actually don't think that looks too bad. They can go back a little further where the halves of the seat are can't they? And what about combined and centered under the cockpit?
Emerje
why do you sign your posts like this anyways, we know who is posting the posts,
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Misfire (1901173)
Posted by Emerje on August 1st, 2017 @ 4:10am CDT
I've been signing my forum posts for 20 years, why stop now? If you want to blame anyone blame this guy, I picked the habit up from him on a forum we used to be on together in '97.
Anyway, thanks for the pics! I think it looks quite a bit better in jet mode using the swords as guns in either configuration.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 1st, 2017 @ 4:10am CDT
GalvatronG1 wrote:why do you sign your posts like this anyways, we know who is posting the posts,
I've been signing my forum posts for 20 years, why stop now? If you want to blame anyone blame this guy, I picked the habit up from him on a forum we used to be on together in '97.
Anyway, thanks for the pics! I think it looks quite a bit better in jet mode using the swords as guns in either configuration.
Emerje
