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New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127

Transformers News: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127

Sunday, January 24th, 2021 4:51PM CST

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Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, Dominus Prime, has let us know that fellow Seibertron user, and YouTube toy reviewer, PrimeVsPrime, has dropped a new video review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127!

B-127 is of course Bee's Cybertronian mode as seen in the intro sequence to the hit Bumblebee movie. Toy wise it is a redeco of Transformers Studio Series Bumblebee Deluxe Class Cliffjumper with a new head. This marks the completion of all the different forms Bumblebee takes in the movie.

We have embedded the review below for your convenience:



What do you think of this review? Will you be picking up this version of bee to add to your hive? Want to place next to his brother in arms, Cliffjumper? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Credit(s): PrimeVsPrime on YouTube

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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093559)
Posted by Evil Eye on January 24th, 2021 @ 7:08pm CST
I really don't care much for the mold (fake chest, backpacky shellformery transformation) but I won't lie, he looks kinda nice in yellow. If I were to get any SS Bee it'd probably be the jeep (which is at least slightly less backpack intensive). Also, clever- they released another Bumblebee without calling him Bumblebee!

Speaking of yellow SS figures, Kapow had Skipjack on sale, so I've ordered him (and also Vertebreak). I love how if you don't use the stand he can slither about like a big scary snake-bot. He can be a big brother for my Deluxe ROTF Rampage too! I don't intend to get the full team, but the yellow fellows look rather nice so I'm planning on tracking just them down for Team Tonka.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093593)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 25th, 2021 @ 10:21am CST
Anyone missing out on Overload might want to give Walmart a try. I never saw Grimlock by me when he started showing up last week or so, I either missed him or my area never received him. The SS Leaders were just restocked this week with the previous wave Scavenger/Overload.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093605)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 25th, 2021 @ 12:36pm CST
I finally got SS86 Hot Rod in hand and I vehemently disapprove of this figure having to be sold at voyager price. The extra parts aren't big enough to justify the voyager sized bubble and box. They could have been kept deluxe size and the accessories would have still fit. I understand the extra parts still would have bumped the price up, but not a whole $10. This could have been sold at $22 or $24. But then it would have to have been an exclusive, which would have been okay with me. We already have so many, 1 more wouldn't make a difference. Or it could have bumped another exclusive into general retail release. Either way, $30 is too much for this figure, even if it looks great.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093610)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2021 @ 12:47pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got SS86 Hot Rod in hand and I vehemently disapprove of this figure having to be sold at voyager price. The extra parts aren't big enough to justify the voyager sized bubble and box. They could have been kept deluxe size and the accessories would have still fit. I understand the extra parts still would have bumped the price up, but not a whole $10. This could have been sold at $22 or $24. But then it would have to have been an exclusive, which would have been okay with me. We already have so many, 1 more wouldn't make a difference. Or it could have bumped another exclusive into general retail release. Either way, $30 is too much for this figure, even if it looks great.

Yeah, that was the feeling I got when I was holding him; beyond that, I actually neither want nor care about all his dumb accessories, so I'd feel doubly cheated
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093611)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 25th, 2021 @ 12:50pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got SS86 Hot Rod in hand and I vehemently disapprove of this figure having to be sold at voyager price. The extra parts aren't big enough to justify the voyager sized bubble and box. They could have been kept deluxe size and the accessories would have still fit. I understand the extra parts still would have bumped the price up, but not a whole $10. This could have been sold at $22 or $24. But then it would have to have been an exclusive, which would have been okay with me. We already have so many, 1 more wouldn't make a difference. Or it could have bumped another exclusive into general retail release. Either way, $30 is too much for this figure, even if it looks great.

Yeah, that was the feeling I got when I was holding him; beyond that, I actually neither want nor care about all his dumb accessories, so I'd feel doubly cheated

I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093612)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 25th, 2021 @ 12:50pm CST
I tend to agree. Nice fun figure, but definitely not worth $30. $25 would have been reasonable. I got mine at Target, I'm saving my receipt and hoping for a sale to price match against.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093617)
Posted by Tuned Agent on January 25th, 2021 @ 1:38pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got SS86 Hot Rod in hand and I vehemently disapprove of this figure having to be sold at voyager price. The extra parts aren't big enough to justify the voyager sized bubble and box. They could have been kept deluxe size and the accessories would have still fit. I understand the extra parts still would have bumped the price up, but not a whole $10. This could have been sold at $22 or $24. But then it would have to have been an exclusive, which would have been okay with me. We already have so many, 1 more wouldn't make a difference. Or it could have bumped another exclusive into general retail release. Either way, $30 is too much for this figure, even if it looks great.

That's about how I feel about Netflix Bee. Great figure, definitely some "premium" things about it (like the alt mode deco), but it still doesn't quite feel worth the full $20. Though, to be fair, Walmart doesn't charge the full $20 for deluxes anyway.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino

What have you heard about Jazz that convinced you not to get him?
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093618)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 25th, 2021 @ 1:45pm CST
Tuned Agent wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino

What have you heard about Jazz that convinced you not to get him?

He's cheap, he's overly animation accurate, his ankles are either fused or break when trying to pose him, he's noticeably lighter than other deluxes, and he's flat, nothing interesting to look at in hand.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093622)
Posted by aronjlove on January 25th, 2021 @ 2:16pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino

What have you heard about Jazz that convinced you not to get him?

He's cheap, he's overly animation accurate, his ankles are either fused or break when trying to pose him, he's noticeably lighter than other deluxes, and he's flat, nothing interesting to look at in hand.

Huh, I don't feel that way at all. He's so cool here he is with Gigawatt jumping back in time to find some real music...
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And here he is with Earthrise looking like he fits right in...
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I could be a little biased because my only other Jazz is PotP, but I freaking love this guy.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093627)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on January 25th, 2021 @ 3:16pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Anyone missing out on Overload might want to give Walmart a try. I never saw Grimlock by me when he started showing up last week or so, I either missed him or my area never received him. The SS Leaders were just restocked this week with the previous wave Scavenger/Overload.

Thanks for the heads up! I’ll keep my eyes peeled.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093628)
Posted by Tuned Agent on January 25th, 2021 @ 3:20pm CST
aronjlove wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino

What have you heard about Jazz that convinced you not to get him?

He's cheap, he's overly animation accurate, his ankles are either fused or break when trying to pose him, he's noticeably lighter than other deluxes, and he's flat, nothing interesting to look at in hand.

Huh, I don't feel that way at all. He's so cool here he is with Gigawatt jumping back in time to find some real music...
20210102_113407.jpg

And here he is with Earthrise looking like he fits right in...
20210101_105259.jpg


I could be a little biased because my only other Jazz is PotP, but I freaking love this guy.

Interesting. I hadn't heard about the ankles, hopefully they're a limited issue.

aronjlove, would you be kind enough to weigh Jazz? These conflicting opinions have me curious.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093630)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 25th, 2021 @ 3:35pm CST
Let's settle the debate on whether Jazz is lighter than the rest right here, and possibly start or further along some other weight debates.

Here are the weights of all the SS86 and Kingdom wave 1 figures I have. All weights in grams. All figures were weighed with their weapons (but Hot Rod without the matrix or saw).

SS86 Jazz - 72
SS86 Kup - 69
SS86 Blurr - 76
SS86 Hot Rod - 79 (definitely not worth $30)
SS86 Scourge - 139
Kingdom Warpath - 74
Kingdom Cheetor - 60
Kingdom Paleotrex - 53
Kingdom Black Arachnia - 37 (yes you read that correctly)
Kingdom Optimus Primal - 131
Kingdom Cyclonus - 149
Kingdom Megatron - 333
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093631)
Posted by aronjlove on January 25th, 2021 @ 3:41pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Let's settle the debate on whether Jazz is lighter than the rest right here, and possibly start or further along some other weight debates.

Here are the weights of all the SS86 and Kingdom wave 1 figures I have. All weights in grams. All figures were weighed with their weapons (but Hot Rod without the matrix or saw).

SS86 Jazz - 72
SS86 Kup - 69
SS86 Blurr - 76
SS86 Hot Rod - 79 (definitely not worth $30)
SS86 Scourge - 139
Kingdom Warpath - 74
Kingdom Cheetor - 60
Kingdom Paleotrex - 53
Kingdom Black Arachnia - 37 (yes you read that correctly)
Kingdom Optimus Primal - 131
Kingdom Cyclonus - 149
Kingdom Megatron - 333

I got 73g for Jazz but it's close enough. And for comparison, ER Bluestreak was 72g and Netflix Wheeljack was 79g.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093633)
Posted by Tuned Agent on January 25th, 2021 @ 4:10pm CST
aronjlove wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Let's settle the debate on whether Jazz is lighter than the rest right here, and possibly start or further along some other weight debates.

Here are the weights of all the SS86 and Kingdom wave 1 figures I have. All weights in grams. All figures were weighed with their weapons (but Hot Rod without the matrix or saw).

SS86 Jazz - 72
SS86 Kup - 69
SS86 Blurr - 76
SS86 Hot Rod - 79 (definitely not worth $30)
SS86 Scourge - 139
Kingdom Warpath - 74
Kingdom Cheetor - 60
Kingdom Paleotrex - 53
Kingdom Black Arachnia - 37 (yes you read that correctly)
Kingdom Optimus Primal - 131
Kingdom Cyclonus - 149
Kingdom Megatron - 333

I got 73g for Jazz but it's close enough. And for comparison, ER Bluestreak was 72g and Netflix Wheeljack was 79g.

Thanks you guys! Here's a few more for comparison:

RTS Jazz (no gun): 88g
SS Roadbuster: 79g
SS Leadfoot (with Steeljaw): 99g
ER Runabout: 83g
Netflix Bumblebee: 56g
Siege Spinister: 83g
Siege Thundercracker: 136g
ER Thundercracker: 132g
Siege Shockwave (with armor): 216g

What I'm getting out of this is that Primal's just short, and deluxes are getting smaller again... (but Jazz isn't the main problem)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093634)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 25th, 2021 @ 4:13pm CST
Thanks kev, I think even with the matrix and saw he would be only 80 grams or so. Definitely lighter than Scourge, so about $25 would have been appropriate. So basically if you bought Hot Rod at full price you paid $5 for extra bubble and cardboard. I mean, it's a nice box, but not that nice. And yes, I know I bought him of my own volition without anyone forcing me. I just didn't think it would be thus bad, even with reviews.

As for Blackarachnia, same thing. I own her as well, and it's a great figure, but if she was in spider mode with her legs folded under, she would most likely have fit into a core class bubble. Once I open both her and Rattrap, I'll test it out. Unless someone else has them handy. I wonder if Kingdom Rattrap is lighter.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093635)
Posted by Tuned Agent on January 25th, 2021 @ 4:20pm CST
I just checked, and I got 23g for Rattrap.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093636)
Posted by aronjlove on January 25th, 2021 @ 4:20pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Thanks kev, I think even with the matrix and saw he would be only 80 grams or so. Definitely lighter than Scourge, so about $25 would have been appropriate. So basically if you bought Hot Rod at full price you paid $5 for extra bubble and cardboard. I mean, it's a nice box, but not that nice. And yes, I know I bought him of my own volition without anyone forcing me. I just didn't think it would be thus bad, even with reviews.

As for Blackarachnia, same thing. I own her as well, and it's a great figure, but if she was in spider mode with her legs folded under, she would most likely have fit into a core class bubble. Once I open both her and Rattrap, I'll test it out. Unless someone else has them handy. I wonder if Kingdom Rattrap is lighter.

Kingdom Rattrap is 23.3g with his gun.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093637)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 25th, 2021 @ 4:25pm CST
Her spider body is thicker than the core class packaging, so that won't work. She is heavier than both Rattrap and Vertabreak who are 22 and 17 grams respectively.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093638)
Posted by aronjlove on January 25th, 2021 @ 4:27pm CST
Kingdom Core-class Buzzworthy Bumblebee and Spike are a combined 29 grams...
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093639)
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 25th, 2021 @ 4:27pm CST
dang is blackarcacnia made out of helium
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093640)
Posted by aronjlove on January 25th, 2021 @ 4:29pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Her spider body is thicker than the core class packaging, so that won't work. She is heavier than both Rattrap and Vertabreak who are 22 and 17 grams respectively.

The lil Wheelie that comes with SS86 Grimlock is 11.9 grams. Grimlock and gun are 321.2 grams. Total of 333.1 grams for $49.99.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093642)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 25th, 2021 @ 5:13pm CST
I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.

As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093643)
Posted by aronjlove on January 25th, 2021 @ 5:30pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.

As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.

Personally, I look at Hot Rod just like I do ER Cliffjumper, the price we pay for MP-like engineering in a consumer-line product.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093644)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 25th, 2021 @ 5:34pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.
I don't think it is ridiculous at all. If Hasbro determines prices according to mass of material required per figure, I think we have every right to know exactly what the price per weight of such figures are. Like its been said, both Blackarachnia and Cheetor are sold at the same price as deluxes, yet we get much less actual material for the same amount of money for the spider. Unless the difference is made up in packaging? Same with Scourge and Hot Rod. I highly doubt that all of Hot Rod's accessories put together adds up to the weight difference between he and Scourge, assuming the packaging weighs the same.
As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.
That's what Hasbro has to weigh in. Like I said before, if hot rod had actually cost the same as other deluxes in price per gram, it would have come out to $24 or $25 instead of $30. That $5 would have been worth it having him be an exclusive, even if it would have been online only due to the odd pricing, even if he still fit into a deluxe box. It would have saved us who purchased him $5 on packaging, if we still got all his accessories. That's not much for 1 person, but just think how many units get sold worldwide. That's a lot of money Hasbro takes in, and for what? Empty space inside the box along with a gram or 2 of extra plastic in the bubble. Because it sure as hell isn't going to the toy.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093645)
Posted by bacem on January 25th, 2021 @ 5:36pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.

As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.


Agreed with this. I am glad that hot rod is a retail release. Coming from someone who lives in south east asia here, retail release and selects are the only hope i have to be able to aquire figures with decent price. All the walmart, target, and walgreen exclusives, they have very minimal chance to be found here, and my only choice is i do want them is paying an MP price for what is pretty much deluxe figure, not a route i am fond of, hence i end up giving up on ER seekers, as well as prowl, ironhide, ratchet, and lifeline.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093647)
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2021 @ 6:19pm CST
I thought hot rod cost more due to parts count and complexity, not weight or accessories (they just make an easy visual excuse for an increase in price)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093649)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 25th, 2021 @ 6:41pm CST
I don't think Hasbro ever has (or will) given any exact details, but some combination of basic material weight and number/complexity of parts generally appears to apply to each class. Typically the larger the figure (mass-wise) the less complex and fewer parts they would have, more hollow spots, etc. It would make sense to be on some sort of a sliding scale for each class.

Hot Rod is kind of an in-betweener. Larger on the deluxe scale on both mass and parts count, but not really that much more to justify full Voyager price, even with the extra bits. He definitely feels more complex than Jazz, Blurr or Kup, but not incredibly so.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093654)
Posted by Spider5800 on January 25th, 2021 @ 9:14pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:to me, Topspin is one of the few bots whose old toy was actually the superior toy. There was more they could have done with the new one they didn't, and it didn't come out as well

I am still glad I got this Topspin and the sculpting is top-notch, but I agree that the old deluxe is a better figure.

I think that's the only Studio Series figure (at least of the ones I have) that doesn't feel like a big upgrade from the prior figure(s).

I have most, and to me most of them are glowups from the prior releases.

From what I've heard, people consider SS Sentinel a downgrade, but they are referring to the leader figure, which I never got and isn't really in scale with the rest of the line.

Maybe SS Crankcase to the DotM one, but I never got the OG so I am not sure. SS Barricade is also one of my weaker ones, but I don't have the DotM deluxe to compare.

Outside of that, I'm not sure what else to debate. Maybe Long Haul, but this one had to combine so some stuff that could have been done better wasn't, and I don't have the OG toy, so I can't say for sure


Long Haul and Mixmaster are definitely downgrades from their RotF molds in terms of robot and vehicle mode (heck, Mixmaster even had his tank mode in the original). However, I feel like 90% of the people who got those two wanted them for Devastator, so it doesn't really matter much.

Sentinel is a pretty big upgrade from his prior voyager version, but I'd agree he's a downgrade from the leader, which makes a lot more sense for him because those firetrucks he's based on are HUGE.

Brawl is kind of a weird case, because this was the first voyager version of him. Prior to this he only had a deluxe and a leader. Also kind of weird because even though he's technically more screen accurate than the prior versions, he looks kind of gangly and thin. He doesn't "feel" right for the character, if that makes sense, compared to the prior versions. Think this one is down to personal preference.

I think scale probably also plays a big role for people's opinions on this stuff. If I was building my movie bots shelf around, say, RotF Leader Optimus, then a lot of the SS figures just don't work, even when they are technically superior. Scale wise it makes way more sense to get leader Sentinel or leader Brawl, because they looks more correct next to that figure. I still think Battle Blade Bumblebee is easily the best deluxe version of Bee, but no way I'd put that next to SS Leader Optimus, I think he's actually TALLER than that version of Prime. Sometimes the "inferior" figure makes more sense depending on what you're focusing on for your collection.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093655)
Posted by Spider5800 on January 25th, 2021 @ 9:23pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Let's settle the debate on whether Jazz is lighter than the rest right here, and possibly start or further along some other weight debates.

Here are the weights of all the SS86 and Kingdom wave 1 figures I have. All weights in grams. All figures were weighed with their weapons (but Hot Rod without the matrix or saw).

SS86 Jazz - 72
SS86 Kup - 69
SS86 Blurr - 76
SS86 Hot Rod - 79 (definitely not worth $30)
SS86 Scourge - 139
Kingdom Warpath - 74
Kingdom Cheetor - 60
Kingdom Paleotrex - 53
Kingdom Black Arachnia - 37 (yes you read that correctly)
Kingdom Optimus Primal - 131
Kingdom Cyclonus - 149
Kingdom Megatron - 333


I mentioned earlier in the thread how hefty Primal feels, so his weight makes sense. He's short, but he doesn't have the hollow arms and legs and empty back we've been seeing more and more of.

I AM shocked by Blackarachnia, though. I knew she was smaller than most deluxes (her spider mode looks great, but it is pretty tiny), but not THAT much smaller, she's almost the same weight as core class figures. At least her paint apps are pretty good.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093662)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 26th, 2021 @ 4:53am CST
bacem wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.

As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.


Agreed with this. I am glad that hot rod is a retail release. Coming from someone who lives in south east asia here, retail release and selects are the only hope i have to be able to aquire figures with decent price. All the walmart, target, and walgreen exclusives, they have very minimal chance to be found here, and my only choice is i do want them is paying an MP price for what is pretty much deluxe figure, not a route i am fond of, hence i end up giving up on ER seekers, as well as prowl, ironhide, ratchet, and lifeline.

Exactly, the situation isn't much better in the UK. Having hit rod as a general release increases the chance of it appearing in Smyths/the Entertainer then it will be worth it.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093665)
Posted by Emerje on January 26th, 2021 @ 6:37am CST
william-james88 wrote:I thought hot rod cost more due to parts count and complexity, not weight or accessories (they just make an easy visual excuse for an increase in price)

That was my understanding. I haven't opened mine yet, but everything I've seen points to it being a more complex figure than most basics, the same way ER Cliffjumper is more complex than most Legends/Core figures.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093687)
Posted by aronjlove on January 26th, 2021 @ 1:04pm CST
It took a bit to find the Twitter thread but here is why Hot Rod is $29.99
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Find me a figure that can recreate a transformation from the movie. I'll wait...
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093688)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2021 @ 1:08pm CST
Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093689)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2021 @ 1:11pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?

Negative
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093690)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2021 @ 1:20pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?

Negative
Then what was everyone talking about when the MP came out?

*checks*

Ah, it's the Lookout Mountain transformation that the MP imitates frame-by-frame.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093691)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 26th, 2021 @ 1:20pm CST
Anyone else concerned about that persons' collection? I see the top 2 bins with guns and parts, can't tell what is in the next bin, but the thermometers in the bottom bin have me intrigued/concerned.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093692)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2021 @ 1:30pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Anyone else concerned about that persons' collection? I see the top 2 bins with guns and parts, can't tell what is in the next bin, but the thermometers in the bottom bin have me intrigued/concerned.
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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093706)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 26th, 2021 @ 4:57pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?

Negative
Then what was everyone talking about when the MP came out?

*checks*

Ah, it's the Lookout Mountain transformation that the MP imitates frame-by-frame.


Basically, we live in a time where every variation of Hot Rods Transformation is now represented in toy form.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093713)
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2021 @ 7:09pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?

Negative
Then what was everyone talking about when the MP came out?

*checks*

Ah, it's the Lookout Mountain transformation that the MP imitates frame-by-frame.


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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093731)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 27th, 2021 @ 3:24am CST
Speaking of Hot Rod, I saw someone point out that the Matrix can be stashed in his stomach in robot mode, which makes me kind of want to get him more than I already did. I'm holding out till we see Commander Rodimus because I wanna see how that version looks, but I know I'll probably get this Hot Rod too just because of some of the neat tricks and features he has
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093739)
Posted by aronjlove on January 27th, 2021 @ 8:23am CST
I regret not picking up SS86 Scourge the one time I saw him in-store, but Target is actually shipping him on time. I don't know if he will arrive by the February 1st street date, but it is nice to have my first shipment of the year from Target isn't delayed ;)^
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093786)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 27th, 2021 @ 5:15pm CST
Finally got my hands on Long Haul today thanks to BBTS. Now I just need Mixmaster and Scrapper and then Devastator will be complete. I will say, I find it kinda funny that my earlier prediction of the $20 I saved on Overload would end up going toward picking up Long Haul :lol:
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093793)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on January 27th, 2021 @ 6:22pm CST
Been working on this one for a little while - I gave Mixmaster a small but much needed improvement!
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I hand-painted it using some Decepticon logos from an ROTF sticker sheet I've had since 2009 as a basis.

I really like how it turned out, but man, was it a pain in the butt to do
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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093796)
Posted by M. Spector on January 27th, 2021 @ 7:01pm CST
Hey that hand done segil looks really clean! When i did my Constructicon customs i most certainly did not even attempt that particular part :lol: Although designing and printing some vinyl decals with a Cricut has been a tempting idea
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093797)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on January 27th, 2021 @ 7:11pm CST
M. Spector wrote:Hey that hand done segil looks really clean! When i did my Constructicon customs i most certainly did not even attempt that particular part :lol: Although designing and printing some vinyl decals with a Cricut has been a tempting idea

Thank you!

I had no plans of even trying it at first either, but after doing all the work on Leadfoot I figured I could at least give it a try. Worst case scenario, I could just paint it over with silver!

I've never tried making decals before, but it is something I'd like to look into. I really don't think I'm going to be able to hand paint flames on my SS DOTM Prime xD
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093801)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 27th, 2021 @ 8:00pm CST
aronjlove wrote:It took a bit to find the Twitter thread but here is why Hot Rod is $29.99
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Find me a figure that can recreate a transformation from the movie. I'll wait...
Don't bother, because this reason is not good enough. Just because they put the hinges on different parts doesn't matter. Not enough to justify the price increase. He still takes up the same amount of room with the same amount of plastic if transformed differently.

That Mixmaster looks awesome. Great job!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093803)
Posted by o.supreme on January 27th, 2021 @ 8:22pm CST
Kind of sad, just before the Holidays, a couple of the walmarts near me were overflowing with Leader class, specifically the 2 that make Devastator, and DotM Megatron. But just after the first of the year, they all disappeared. I thought they all sold in some grand fason but no, Now almost a month later,(they must have just been pulled off the shelf to make room for the reset), they are now being sold on clearance for $34.00. I thought about getting them as they are the 2 biggest parts of Devastator, but to go back and get the remaining ones might be more costly than it's worth even after saving 30% or so on these 2 Leaders.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093804)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on January 27th, 2021 @ 8:29pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:
That Mixmaster looks awesome. Great job!

Thank you!

o.supreme wrote:Kind of sad, just before the Holidays, a couple of the walmarts near me were overflowing with Leader class, specifically the 2 that make Devastator, and DotM Megatron. But just after the first of the year, they all disappeared. I thought they all sold in some grand fason but no, Now almost a month later,(they must have just been pulled off the shelf to make room for the reset), they are now being sold on clearance for $34.00. I thought about getting them as they are the 2 biggest parts of Devastator, but to go back and get the remaining ones might be more costly than it's worth even after saving 30% or so on these 2 Leaders.

We needed to get some things on Friday, I guess Walmart it is! I'd be ecstatic to find it at that price, although honestly I'd buy it at retail price too if I can find it.

You can get a lot of the Devastator components now at retail price on amazon (Mixmaster, Scrapper, Skipjack), the difficult ones are going to be Long Haul, Scrapmetal, and Hightower.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093810)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 27th, 2021 @ 10:39pm CST
o.supreme, coming from someone who thinks Bayverse Devy is an ugly mess, I kinda want to own the Constructicons, because I think separately they're beautiful pieces. Especially the 2 leaders, that red really pops on them. They're worth the clearance price.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127 (2093857)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on January 28th, 2021 @ 7:00pm CST
There’s supposed to be a snowstorm here over the weekend so we went out to Walmart tonight. Saw Jetfire, DOTM Megatron, and Scavenger on shelves. Looked above the shelf and saw 2 Jetfires, 2 Scavengers. . .

And off to the side, 1 Overload!

It was $50 but I had a gift card so it’s all good. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a Devastator to assemble!

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