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Posted by warchantgod10 on February 20th, 2009 @ 7:26am CST
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 20th, 2009 @ 8:32am CST
Posted by Straken on February 20th, 2009 @ 9:14am CST
warchantgod10 wrote:Anyone else have any further thoughts on this topic?
That's a very good point you raise,aside from Starscream and to a lesser extent Megatron(slamming prime though a building) and Blackout(hit n run tactics) none of the transformers used their alt mode for anything other than a means of getting from a to b faster or as disguise(which in all fairness is exactly why they have alt modes in the first place,traditionally)but my point is:THIS IS A M.BAY MOVIE,you know that guy who likes big explosions,things going smash,boom bang,sod the plotline lets just get to the action,BAY. Now if it was my choice,obviously as a TF fan I would do things my (G1) way,but it wasnt,it was M.Bay's,so in keeping with that,yes,why wasnt it more 'twisted metal',why wasnt there a propper(no offence to Bonecrusher,whom I think is WICKED!) motorway battle with cars getting trashed left,right and center and bots bouncing all over the place(ala Matrix 2,which in comparison makes TF look timid)etc. Over the years being a TF fan and a fan of action movies in general (and of creative fighting) I was pretty saddened by not only the rubbish you hear from fanboys but also as a action fan,do enjoy the film,but sorry its a kids film.
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 20th, 2009 @ 10:14am CST
1) The alt mode is supposed to be a DISGUISE, remember? So it's OK for Brawl and Starscream to have weapons in alt mode, since they are military vehicles. But a pick up truck or a sports car that fires missiles wouldn't be much of a disguise.
2) Robots firing guns and missiles are way cooler than cars firing guns and missiles. A car that turns into a giant robot and then fires missiles from pods that pop out of its arms is ten times cooler than a car that fires missiles from it's hood.
Posted by soundwave13c on February 20th, 2009 @ 10:50am CST
Glad I got that of my chest...
Posted by T-Macksimus on February 20th, 2009 @ 11:09am CST
soundwave13c wrote:What I was annoyed about was the lack of hand held weapons, such as hand gun lasers and riffles, instead we got weird pop out of the arm, glowing, futuristic messes!
Rifles bring to mind shoulder slings when not in use, which would be cumbersome in non-combat situations and unless they were all equipped with "Robo-Cop" style hip holsters and limited to similar size/configuration pistols, (no way in hell Ironhide is gonna go for that) then there's a problem with where to lay the pistols when not in combat. Having "on-board" weaponry made for no storage or lost weapon issues and meant fewer props to have to deal with for the full size bots or portions thereof that were on-set.
I would have liked seeing the pistols too, but to be honest there was so much going on in the movie that I never really missed the pistols until around the 25th to 30th time I watched it.
Posted by zimmus prime on February 20th, 2009 @ 11:14am CST
Posted by T-Macksimus on February 20th, 2009 @ 11:48am CST
GuyIncognito wrote:2 thoughts:
1) The alt mode is supposed to be a DISGUISE, remember? So it's OK for Brawl and Starscream to have weapons in alt mode, since they are military vehicles. But a pick up truck or a sports car that fires missiles wouldn't be much of a disguise.
2) Robots firing guns and missiles are way cooler than cars firing guns and missiles. A car that turns into a giant robot and then fires missiles from pods that pop out of its arms is ten times cooler than a car that fires missiles from it's hood.
If I could add a #3 to your list...modifying the real cars to have weapons/accessories that could actually stay put during action driving sequences would have upped the already high cost of making the movie. Adding them digitally would have been asking a bit too much of the CGI team considering what they already were taking on.
Posted by PlasticAddict on February 20th, 2009 @ 12:06pm CST
T-Macksimus wrote:GuyIncognito wrote:2 thoughts:
1) The alt mode is supposed to be a DISGUISE, remember? So it's OK for Brawl and Starscream to have weapons in alt mode, since they are military vehicles. But a pick up truck or a sports car that fires missiles wouldn't be much of a disguise.
2) Robots firing guns and missiles are way cooler than cars firing guns and missiles. A car that turns into a giant robot and then fires missiles from pods that pop out of its arms is ten times cooler than a car that fires missiles from it's hood.
If I could add a #3 to your list...modifying the real cars to have weapons/accessories that could actually stay put during action driving sequences would have upped the already high cost of making the movie. Adding them digitally would have been asking a bit too much of the CGI team considering what they already were taking on.
Also, if you start giving the vehicle modes the ability to use all kinds of weapons, then people would start questioning the point of transforming into robots during the battles...why transform into a slower, more massive (easier target) mode when you can simultaneously move around quickly and fire the same weapons? And after all, somewhat going along what the others were saying earlier, would you prefer seeing the transformers get hit and destroyed by vehicles (that could have been replaced by just the similarly-looking earth military vehicles) or the unique cybertronian warriors from another planet?
Posted by T-Macksimus on February 20th, 2009 @ 1:58pm CST
Posted by DCybertron on February 20th, 2009 @ 4:04pm CST
i might get banned for this.
Posted by Zeds on February 20th, 2009 @ 5:33pm CST
DCybertron wrote:mistransformed (i think) robot mode.
i might get banned for this.
Compare this robot mode to Starscream and Breakaway looks like a million dollars!
Posted by First-Aid on February 20th, 2009 @ 7:01pm CST
ALso, is that supposed to be an F16 or an F 18? It's kinda in between both of them..
Posted by T-Macksimus on February 20th, 2009 @ 7:03pm CST
Well, let's look on the bright side. It would appear that the twins have a new playmate.
He does have a sharp looking alt. mode, I'll give him that. I'm hoping that the blue and green seem so..."loud" just because of the flash and that the actual toys colors aren't really that vibrant.
No way I could take someone seriously if they had a sky blue gun pointed at me. My kids would even complain about those colors.
I'm trying to be optimistic about this toy but I really don't have much to work with here.
Posted by Firebird on February 20th, 2009 @ 7:56pm CST
If they repaint him then i might pick him up. His current colors just dont look to good.
Posted by T-Macksimus on February 20th, 2009 @ 11:30pm CST
Firebird wrote:I think he looks adorable! It's like he started to transform and gave up after he got into gerwalk mode!
My God, Editor was right! Fangirls are a dangerous breed! Between the ado...the adorab..bbl...aww,hell...the "a" word and the gerwalk comment I had to go back and take a second look and the little bugger started to grow on me. I agree, he needs a new paint job.
This in no way means that I'm getting soft. I'm wearing my black shirt, black boots and black leather jacket as I sit here and type this. I'm still a hard ass and I did not (could not) break down and use the "a" word.
You just be careful where your pointing that ability of yours, Firebird! That's some dangerous mojo you're playing with!
Posted by Firebird on February 20th, 2009 @ 11:53pm CST
I guess I should put my old Trans-Am sig back up.
(I got a black leather too by the way, Most comfortable jacket I ever bought!)
Posted by T-Macksimus on February 21st, 2009 @ 12:07am CST
I am soooo screwed......
Posted by Firebird on February 21st, 2009 @ 12:15am CST
Good luck at the other site. Hopefully they are as laid back as I am
Posted by Rated X on February 21st, 2009 @ 5:44am CST
Oh by the way...Big ups to the dude who brought us the robot mode early. Adminstrator please dont ban him...instead I recommend you give him a job. His leak is way better than whoever takes all those blurry shots from a mile away in somebody's bedroom.
Posted by Giant Purple Griffin on February 22nd, 2009 @ 2:25pm CST