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New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Sunday, December 16th, 2018 4:39PM CST

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This weekend saw the Gamer Event 2018 take place in Taiwan, and while so far the biggest news to come out of it was the surprise reveal of a trailer-less reissue of G1 Optimus Prime, that doesn't mean that there wasn't anything else there...Thanks to the people over at Transformers Never Die Facebook Group, we have some in-hand shots of Wave 1 Leader Class figures Ultra Magnus and Shockwave from the Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege line!

The pictures include a comparison shot of Siege Optimus with both the inner white robot of Ultra Magnus and with Ultra Magnus all armoured up. There is also a good look at Shockwave, included being handled as if he had his original alt mode.

We have mirrored the images below for your convenience.

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

Transformers News: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave

What do you think of these? Do they wet your appetite for these figures even more? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
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Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999223)
Posted by Lore Keeper on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:13pm CST
I cant wait to get both of these! Though, I will say that Ultra Magnus's face looks off for some reason... :-?
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999224)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:19pm CST
Probably the angle and the lighting in most shots of him.

Want those two so hard.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999226)
Posted by S.o.L. on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:19pm CST
So is this going to be another internet cartoon, or maybe a game? I'm not sure who would be the target market for Gen 0. Just thinking from a marketing point of view.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999228)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:23pm CST
I don't care for that Shockwave, but I NEED that Ultra Magnus!
Like, really, THE RETURN OF SHITE OPTIMUS! That combine with his trailer! It's the first time ever since G1!


:shock: :DANCE: :APPLAUSE:
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999232)
Posted by YoungPrime on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:56pm CST
I wish they had done a size comparison with Shockwave and Megatron.

Better yet just release this d@mn figure at retail already and I'll do it myself!
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999237)
Posted by Emerje on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:10pm CST
Looks like we've got our confirmation that Ultra Magnus' armor has pre-posed ankles rather than ankle tilts.

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Not a deal breaker, just less than ideal.

Emerje
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999238)
Posted by Lucky Logician on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:13pm CST
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This is the perfect example of why I dislike the 'weathering' effect on these toys. It is extremely haphazardly applied. They took this pristine white figure and just flicked some silver on this thighs AND NOWHERE ELSE!
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999239)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:15pm CST
Emerje wrote:Looks like we've got our confirmation that Ultra Magnus' armor has pre-posed ankles rather than ankle tilts.

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Not a deal breaker, just less than ideal.

Emerje

AGH :BOOM: Why?! I'm still gonna get him, but I hate when they're pre-posed ankle tilts! It just makes it more tedious to pose! Oh well, there are worse things in this line (Prowl's legs I'm looking at you)
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999240)
Posted by Cobotron on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:26pm CST
I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise. [-(
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999241)
Posted by Randomhero on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:30pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise. [-(


There’s a corner with people still waiting for unite warriors Liokaiser. They’ll probably let you chill with them while you wait
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999242)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:33pm CST
Randomhero wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise. [-(


There’s a corner with people still waiting for unite warriors Liokaiser. They’ll probably let you chill with them while you wait

If I'm honest, I kind of wish we'd get it, just to see how they handle the Scramble City style, with the addition of two bots making up the torso. Maybe down the line we might see release like with Greenlight
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999244)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:38pm CST
Randomhero wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise. [-(


There’s a corner with people still waiting for unite warriors Liokaiser. They’ll probably let you chill with them while you wait

There are hinges attached to the side of the feet. What purpose would they serve other than ankle tilt?
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999245)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:04pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:There are hinges attached to the side of the feet. What purpose would they serve other than ankle tilt?


After watching the pictures carefully, the angle of the feet seem to be unmoving no matter the pose. Plus what you see as "hinges" are really just the parts where the white panels tab solidly in. There is no "hinges" there.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999249)
Posted by Cobotron on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:32pm CST
When everyone gets their pudding, then we'll have our proof. >:oP
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999250)
Posted by RainyDayMan2k on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:37pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't care for that Shockwave, but I NEED that Ultra Magnus!
Like, really, THE RETURN OF SHITE OPTIMUS! That combine with his trailer! It's the first time ever since G1!


:shock: :DANCE: :APPLAUSE:


Either that's an amusing typo where you slipped just south of the W key, or... /:)
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999252)
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:41pm CST
Randomhero wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise. [-(


There’s a corner with people still waiting for unite warriors Liokaiser. They’ll probably let you chill with them while you wait


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Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999254)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:43pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise. [-(

Yes, let's remember that Hasbro's stock photographers can't be trusted to transform a Jumpstarter.
And I'm pretty sure it is in fact working ankle tilts. Because in some of those pictures, like this one:
ZeroWolf wrote:Image

The ankles look to be tilted more steeply.

Lucky Logician wrote:Image

This is the perfect example of why I dislike the 'weathering' effect on these toys. It is extremely haphazardly applied. They took this pristine white figure and just flicked some silver on this thighs AND NOWHERE ELSE!

It's not actually haphazard, there is a calculation to it. Siege may have more paint than we've been accustomed to for a while, but it's still rationed. So when apportioning Magnus' paint operations, they presumably decided it was more important to weather the armored mode since that's the part most people would care about. And since the thighs of the cab robot are the only part left exposed, they're what gets the weathering.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999259)
Posted by Emerje on December 16th, 2018 @ 9:17pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise. [-(

Yes, let's remember that Hasbro's stock photographers can't be trusted to transform a Jumpstarter.
And I'm pretty sure it is in fact working ankle tilts. Because in some of those pictures, like this one:
ZeroWolf wrote:Image

The ankles look to be tilted more steeply.

They do appear to be more angled there so there might be a bit more of a tilt inward, but I don't think they can sit flat. The feet appear to be attached to the tires so if the were flat they'd force the wheels off the ground in truck mode and he'd roll in bot mode, by angling them they keep the wheels up in bot mode. At least that's how it looks.

Emerje
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999260)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 16th, 2018 @ 9:22pm CST
Shegotron wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't care for that Shockwave, but I NEED that Ultra Magnus!
Like, really, THE RETURN OF SHITE OPTIMUS! That combine with his trailer! It's the first time ever since G1!


:shock: :DANCE: :APPLAUSE:


Either that's an amusing typo where you slipped just south of the W key, or... /:)


M... Maybe that's why it took so long to have a combining White Magnus! :lol:
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999264)
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2018 @ 9:34pm CST
While the US has been having fun with new generations line toy for a little while (as per usual), Siege has finally hit Canada all at once. Here is a quick rundown of where certain classes are found in various retailers:

Walmart: New Siege display (picture below) for Deluxes and Voyagers. These are apart from the Transformers section, in a central aisle.
Toysrus: While the Battle Masters were already reported, they now have the Micromasters, Deluxes and Voyager classes.
EB Games: They have the Micromaster two packs.

The prices are the same across the board with the Micromasters at $12.99, Deluxes at $29.99 and Voyagers at $39.99. These are all in Canadian dollars. Like in the US, the MSRP is made to match the movie figures price jump we saw last year with The Last Knight. Of course, there are always deals and right now at Toysrus there is a BOGO 50% off sale. So buying two Siege deluxes gives you 25% off each figure.

This info is brought to us by MeGrimlock78 on our boards and Dangard Ace from Cybertron.ca.

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Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999267)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 16th, 2018 @ 10:05pm CST
Lucky Logician wrote:Image

This is the perfect example of why I dislike the 'weathering' effect on these toys. It is extremely haphazardly applied. They took this pristine white figure and just flicked some silver on this thighs AND NOWHERE ELSE!
Because the thighs are the only part of the inner figure's front that are exposed when the figure is wearing its armor. The rest of the body is so pristine because the armor piece cover up all those pristine parts, keeping them clean from the battle damage that the armor pieces themselves get covered in.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999272)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 16th, 2018 @ 11:17pm CST
I’m with Lucky on this; would the lack of battle damage on the thighs of the Power Armor really detract from the look the way including it on the core robot does?
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999274)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 16th, 2018 @ 11:23pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I’m with Lucky on this; would the lack of battle damage on the thighs of the Power Armor really detract from the look the way including it on the core robot does?

I realize I'm not a board-certified expert like Sabrblade, so you may have skimmed over what I had sad about it. So here:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's not actually haphazard, there is a calculation to it. Siege may have more paint than we've been accustomed to for a while, but it's still rationed. So when apportioning Magnus' paint operations, they presumably decided it was more important to weather the armored mode since that's the part most people would care about. And since the thighs of the cab robot are the only part left exposed, they're what gets the weathering.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999279)
Posted by Randomhero on December 17th, 2018 @ 12:44am CST
Six months since the reveal of siege and people still complaining about the weathering effect and saying the same stuff over and over and over. ;)^
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999282)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 17th, 2018 @ 1:43am CST
Randomhero wrote:Six months since the reveal of siege and people still complaining about the weathering effect and saying the same stuff over and over and over. ;)^

Generally I'm okay with the battle damage effect cause it's subtle. And then there's Soundwave being caked in the stuff :lol: He's the only one I take a lot of issue with, and mostly because of the cracks in his... Window? Would that be the right term? :lol:
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999284)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 17th, 2018 @ 2:29am CST
Don't like Magnus at all. Surprised he can even pose at all being so bricky looking. And his butt ends up as the truck's lower front. Like when he crashes into enemies in truck mode he's butt-bashing them?

Shockwave looks fine but should have left all that backpack junk off him and released him as a voyager. Way too expensive for a voyager size figure and awful accessory.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999294)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 17th, 2018 @ 4:07am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Don't like Magnus at all. Surprised he can even pose at all being so bricky looking. And his butt ends up as the truck's lower front. Like when he crashes into enemies in truck mode he's butt-bashing them?

Shockwave looks fine but should have left all that backpack junk off him and released him as a voyager. Way too expensive for a voyager size figure and awful accessory.

1. Ultra Magnus doesn't look that much blockier than the Combiner Wars toy (and his G1 design has always been blocky, which you should know full well from your comics), why are you so surprised he can pose? Also, A. We've known how blocky he is for months, why are you only trashing on him for it now? and B. the truck bumper had to go somewhere. I'm pretty sure Optimus has a bumper butt too.

2. Regarding Shockwave, they needed somebody to be a Decepticon Leader-class toy. And whether you like the weapon harness or not (I think it's fine), it brings him up to Leader size, which is the important thing. Besides, they have at least 4 Voyager slots allocated to Decepticons already (Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Thundercracker).
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999297)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 17th, 2018 @ 4:52am CST
Siege have properly hit Canada.

Eh.

Call me a pessimist, but I'm pretty sure there will be FOKKAL in my local Laval stores. :-x
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999306)
Posted by frogbat on December 17th, 2018 @ 6:34am CST
I like Magnus and the fact he has a transforming cab but I prefer the CW's aesthetics so far... it seems they fixed my biggest complaint re the CW figure - a lack of ankle tilts (and here they might have not bothered to straighten them). He seems to have borrowed the mp buttflap feature tho. Then on the plus side he does have a better gun. He does feel like he was a leftover from the POTP gimmick tho.

I actually like shockwave - the kibble seems weird but it kinda goes with the character and with the weaponiser gimmick.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999316)
Posted by Evil Eye on December 17th, 2018 @ 7:54am CST
Ultra Magnus looks really, really good. Not perfect, but still very good. The vehicle mode is awesome and it's an Ultra Magnus that does the "power armour" thing! Hallelujah!

And that Shockwave...homina homina. I want him so much.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999317)
Posted by no-one on December 17th, 2018 @ 7:56am CST
Cobotron wrote:When everyone gets their pudding, then we'll have our proof. >:oP
But you can't have your pudding until you eat your meat [-(


So after staring deeply into Magnus's eyes and getting lost, I came to the conclusion that the Siege greebling is very similar to that of Bandai's NXEDGE figures.

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:...I'm not a board-certified...
We're all certifiable around here 8-}
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999318)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 17th, 2018 @ 8:04am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Ultra Magnus doesn't look that much blockier than the Combiner Wars toy (and his G1 design has always been blocky, which you should know full well from your comics), why are you so surprised he can pose? Also, A. We've known how blocky he is for months, why are you only trashing on him for it now? and B. the truck bumper had to go somewhere. I'm pretty sure Optimus has a bumper butt too.


Nah, I'm not fond of the he CW toy but it has a lot more angles to break up the constant rectangles whereas this one seems to be all rectangles plus that truck mode is just solid brickiness and somehow looks messy at the same time, at least his traditonal alt-mode looked like it had more of an obvious purpose. And I did mention that a while ago but this first time I'm seeing the back view as i rarely come in this thread (it's usually when there's a news item). And why bring up the comics? The only time I'd want the toys to resemble anything from the Marvel Comics is Geoff Senior angry/evil Decepticon faces and possibly some colour schemes (always did prefer Galvatron in mostly grey/silver), for the most part they used the cartoon character models and I'm really no fan of that. :P


2. Regarding Shockwave, they needed somebody to be a Decepticon Leader-class toy. And whether you like the weapon harness or not (I think it's fine), it brings him up to Leader size, which is the important thing. Besides, they have at least 4 Voyager slots allocated to Decepticons already (Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Thundercracker).


Yeah but the only one of those I was remotely interested in was Shockwave but his price puts him way above what I wanted to pay for a voyager sized Shocky cos it's about £32 for a voyager here and about £50 for a Leader. For that junky backpack. It's a cheat. Not a true Leader class figure at all. Just a voyager with a goofy accessory to up the price. Could have just put Soundwave in the Leader class and given you a few of his tape buddies in the package too. Might have made up for that lame alt-mode he has at least.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999322)
Posted by galvatron00 on December 17th, 2018 @ 8:14am CST
BUTT FLAP!!!
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Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999323)
Posted by no-one on December 17th, 2018 @ 8:18am CST
Naw man, he's got that sweet bumper butt!



Even I have to shout!
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999335)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 17th, 2018 @ 9:36am CST
What's more amusing to me is where the 5mm port ends up... You can have UM shooting a gun out his bum! Especially if you put a blast effect there...Do you think he's got time for that?
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999339)
Posted by galvatron00 on December 17th, 2018 @ 9:43am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:What's more amusing to me is where the 5mm port ends up... Especially if you put a blast effect there...
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999341)
Posted by Short Circuit on December 17th, 2018 @ 10:25am CST
Well shoot, now Elita Infin1te has 3 fembots, now we need a fourth! :lol:
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999363)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 17th, 2018 @ 12:06pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I’m with Lucky on this; would the lack of battle damage on the thighs of the Power Armor really detract from the look the way including it on the core robot does?

I realize I'm not a board-certified expert like Sabrblade, so you may have skimmed over what I had sad about it. So here:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's not actually haphazard, there is a calculation to it. Siege may have more paint than we've been accustomed to for a while, but it's still rationed. So when apportioning Magnus' paint operations, they presumably decided it was more important to weather the armored mode since that's the part most people would care about. And since the thighs of the cab robot are the only part left exposed, they're what gets the weathering.

I didn’t skim it, I read the post. I don’t doubt that they did in fact ration the paint the way you say, I simply don’t like that it’s there.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999368)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 17th, 2018 @ 12:36pm CST
Carnivius, by your logic RiD Optimus and all 3 Unicron Trilogy versions of Optimus are "Not a true Leader class figure at all. Just a voyager with a goofy accessory to up the price". Hell, by your logic any Leader-class figure where it's not all one figure - even Ultra Magnus and his armor - is that. :roll:

Speaking of Ultra Magnus, his vehicle mode is based off this (and, by dint of that, real car carriers at least when it comes to the trailer):
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It was done because A. The RiD cab makes him look Cybertronian and B. A G1-based Ultra Magnus trailer in size with a Voyager cab would end up too big for the Leader-class price point. That would result in a Supreme-class toy.

Regarding Soundwave, they had to give him an altmode that looked both Cybertronian and like it could move under its own power while preserving his tape deck look. And he can totally still turn into a tape deck, looking at his legs, they just haven't advertised it.

Now me, I would have preferred them to make Megatron into a Leader-class toy and contrive a spaceship out of this:
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But I guess they wanted to make the more important guy more accessible, and what they did with Shockwave doesn't look bad IMO.

Also, why are you not a fan of the cartoon? Because it had the good guys actually being heroic, had the big leader guys actually in charge, and didn't have Optimus commit idiotic suicide over accidentally killing video game NPCs?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I’m with Lucky on this; would the lack of battle damage on the thighs of the Power Armor really detract from the look the way including it on the core robot does?

I realize I'm not a board-certified expert like Sabrblade, so you may have skimmed over what I had sad about it. So here:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's not actually haphazard, there is a calculation to it. Siege may have more paint than we've been accustomed to for a while, but it's still rationed. So when apportioning Magnus' paint operations, they presumably decided it was more important to weather the armored mode since that's the part most people would care about. And since the thighs of the cab robot are the only part left exposed, they're what gets the weathering.

I didn’t skim it, I read the post. I don’t doubt that they did in fact ration the paint the way you say, I simply don’t like that it’s there.

Well, think of how the armored mode would look with the rest of it weathered and the thighs clean :roll:
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999371)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 17th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CST
Sorry ZeldaTheSwordsman, I'm in the same boat with thoughts of the G1 toon :P but I agree with you that the prime blowing himself upon the G1 comics was a silly thing as well :lol:
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999374)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 17th, 2018 @ 1:51pm CST
Well, and for me that's one of the stupid things that taints the whole damn comic universe. The next issue should have opened with a letter from the editor saying "Last comic didn't actually happen, sorry for wasting your time" instead of actually picking up from that point. At least "B.O.T." can be safely snipped from the cartoon timeline without impact. Not so much for the comics and "Afterdeath".
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999379)
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2018 @ 2:44pm CST
Does Siege Megatron's head not lock?
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999386)
Posted by Windsweeper on December 17th, 2018 @ 3:11pm CST
Given that the truck mode is based on the RID 2000 series, I'd have liked if the smaller robot's head was based on the RID head sculpt.

It could give us another separate character to the CW Magnus with Minimus and another individual to wear the armour like in the IDW comics.

I wouldn't mind a retool as Motormaster.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999387)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 17th, 2018 @ 3:22pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, think of how the armored mode would look with the rest of it weathered and the thighs clean :roll:

This right here is exactly what we’re saying. Would the Armored mode really look that bad without the thighs painted up in battle damage? I submit that it would not.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999391)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 17th, 2018 @ 3:35pm CST
I think ZeldaTheSwordsman was being sarcastic...
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999392)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 17th, 2018 @ 3:46pm CST
You assumed wrong then ZeroWolf

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, think of how the armored mode would look with the rest of it weathered and the thighs clean :roll:

This right here is exactly what we’re saying. Would the Armored mode really look that bad without the thighs painted up in battle damage? I submit that it would not.

I submit that it would. With the rest of the armor weathered, the spotless thighs would stick out like a sore thumb. Yes, it does make the cab robot look inconsistent because there's no weathering on the rest of it. But there's only room in the budget for so much paint and if you were doing Ultra Magnus and had to choose which robot mode to weather, which would you pick? And Sabrblade has a point about parts left exposed getting dirtier than covered-up parts.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999394)
Posted by DMSL on December 17th, 2018 @ 4:26pm CST
Ultra Magnus looks great in botmode, but truck mode not so much. I think i will stick to my Takara Legends/Combiner Wars Magnus.

Shockwave....looks fantastic, i want him now.

:BOWDOWN:
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999396)
Posted by mordhelm on December 17th, 2018 @ 4:36pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Does Siege Megatron's head not lock?


As far as most who have him can tell, the headplate he mounts to does not lock. Just is a friction thing. I could not find anything to lock it on mine.
Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999448)
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2018 @ 10:30pm CST
mordhelm wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Does Siege Megatron's head not lock?


As far as most who have him can tell, the headplate he mounts to does not lock. Just is a friction thing. I could not find anything to lock it on mine.

Thanks, thats too bad.

Anyways, gt all of Wave 1 today (voyagers and deluxes) and I will be exploring them more in the days to come. But so far, that Optimus...

Re: New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave (1999463)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 18th, 2018 @ 3:12am CST
I look forward to seeing your thoughts and pictures Will.

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