New Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Cloud TFC-A02 Brawn and TFC-D02 Starscream

This line is such a joke. It's like Machine Wars all over again. But at least in Machine Wars they gave them new colors instead G1 paint schemes. And trying to say that "Asia didnt get the molds" is stupid. At $100 bucks a pop, collectors are the intended target of this line, not kids. Every collector in Asia who wanted the mold got it already online. In the age of online shopping, theres no such thing as an "Asian exclusive".

Rated X wrote:This line is such a joke. It's like Machine Wars all over again. But at least in Machine Wars they gave them new colors instead G1 paint schemes. And trying to say that "Asia didnt get the molds" is stupid. At $100 bucks a pop, collectors are the intended target of this line, not kids. Every collector in Asia who wanted the mold got it already online. In the age of online shopping, theres no such thing as an "Asian exclusive".

Japan dear, Japan. Japan is a market separate from mainland Asia, end of story.

Rated X wrote:This line is such a joke. It's like Machine Wars all over again. But at least in Machine Wars they gave them new colors instead G1 paint schemes. And trying to say that "Asia didnt get the molds" is stupid. At $100 bucks a pop, collectors are the intended target of this line, not kids. Every collector in Asia who wanted the mold got it already online. In the age of online shopping, theres no such thing as an "Asian exclusive".

Believe or not, collectors like to buy domestically too.

Money may be no object for you, but how you spend your money doesn't represent the same for everyone.

They really should have used the other mold of Bulkhead:



It would have fit better in scale with everyone (not to mention his own body), maybe that head is still salvageable for the smaller mold

harvester wrote:They really should have used the other mold of Bulkhead:

not when that head was made for the mold it was used for. They can't just go slapping any old head on any old body. That's not how it works.

Sabrblade wrote:

harvester wrote:They really should have used the other mold of Bulkhead:

not when that head was made for the mold it was used for. They can't just go slapping any old head on any old body. That's not how it works.

besides, they seem to want to stick with voyager sized molds, and i assume thats a deluxe.

shajaki wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

harvester wrote:They really should have used the other mold of Bulkhead:

not when that head was made for the mold it was used for. They can't just go slapping any old head on any old body. That's not how it works.

besides, they seem to want to stick with voyager sized molds, and i assume thats a deluxe.

It is a deluxe, that's why it would fit better in scale but I do agree that they are trying to stick with Voyagers.

Sabrblade, who are "they"? Did this head exist before they chose this mold? I don't know what you are trying to say. What I was trying to say is, I wonder if I could get a hold of this Brawn, and put his head on a custom painted deluxe Bulkhead. Brawn always had a bigger head to body ratio but in this Cloud fig, the proportions looked flipped to me.

Brawn with big head: (courtesy of tfwiki)


I like how these turned out, I just don't like the oversized Brawn with awkward proportions. If I could swap the head with a deluxe, I think it would look better with this mix of figs, even if I have to pop the head off to transform it (when I would probably just keep it in bot mode).

That head was indeed pre-existing, for the GDO series Brawn that was canceled for some reason:



And with "they" we usually mean Hasbro or TakaraTomy.

I'm saying that this Brawn head was made for the Voyager Bulkhead mold, and that it can't be put on the Deluxe mold because it wasn't made to fit on that toy's body.

The "they" I'm referring to are Hasbro and TakaraTomy, who made designed this head specifically for the Voyager Bulkhead body.

One cannot take any head they want and stick it on any body they want if said heads and bodies weren't made to connect with each other.

As for why they went with the Voyager mold instead of the Deluxe one at the time that this head was made, the Deluxe Bulkhead toy didn't even exist yet.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:This line is such a joke. It's like Machine Wars all over again. But at least in Machine Wars they gave them new colors instead G1 paint schemes. And trying to say that "Asia didnt get the molds" is stupid. At $100 bucks a pop, collectors are the intended target of this line, not kids. Every collector in Asia who wanted the mold got it already online. In the age of online shopping, theres no such thing as an "Asian exclusive".

Believe or not, collectors like to buy domestically too.

Money may be no object for you, but how you spend your money doesn't represent the same for everyone.

I used to feel the same way, until I realized that every dollar I saved on shipping was being spent on gas. Sometimes I would drive 25 miles away and return home with nothing to show for it. The thrill of the hunt wears off after a while.

Also, I wouldn’t think $100 figures will be big sellers in Asian toy stores that specialize in kids lines. It would be the equivalent to finding Millions Publishing exclusives for sale at TRU. Maybe a handful of Asian hobby shops that cater to collectors will carry the Cloud line. But not retail chains that target kids. What parent is going to buy them for a 5 year old to rough play ? In my travels to the Philippines, retail chains at malls only had regular Hasbro figures. I hit up a few hobby shops and found a variety of Takara, Gundam, and 3rd party products.

When I said "collectors like to buy domestically too", that included "buying online".

Items domestically available in the U.S. tend to cost a lot less on BBTS and TFSource than imported TakaraTomy items on the same sites do.

Likewise, those who live in Hong Kong who buy from RobotKingdom have less to pay for shipping costs than those who live in the U.S. buying from the same site do.

If these Cloud toys were being made by Hasbro, Inc. in America instead of by TakaraTomy, chances are they would cost a lot less for American consumers than they do now, regardless if they were still sold online or in stores.

I really, REALLY wish they would stop with the "invaluable loli/preteen girl" concept in Japanese transformers. I love manga, anime, and western comics/animation equally do I'm not trying to be hateful but it's honestly starting to creep me out (see Kiss Players). I hope the comics made for cloud are creepy-robo-tongue-waggling-at-little-girls-free lol that aside... I only dislike Megatron, send he has the same terrible head sculpt as gdo Megatron. Really hope they make rodimus!

gantzrunner wrote:I really, REALLY wish they would stop with the "invaluable loli/preteen girl" concept in Japanese transformers. I love manga, anime, and western comics/animation equally do I'm not trying to be hateful but it's honestly starting to creep me out (see Kiss Players). I hope the comics made for cloud are creepy-robo-tongue-waggling-at-little-girls-free lol that aside... I only dislike Megatron, send he has the same terrible head sculpt as gdo Megatron. Really hope they make rodimus!

You are aware that that thing isn't a person, right? It's an A.I. entity called SARA.

And don't worry. The Cloud fiction is more based around dimension-hopping than anything, as the story with Optimus and Megatron had them going to the G1 cartoon universe, while the Brawn & Starscream story has them going to the Armada cartoon world. Completely free of grossness.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:*waits patiently for a cool new Shockwave in Thrilling 30*

*reads this*



Hasbro...please. I'm begging you. Don't. Whirl is a deplorable mold.

TakaraTomy, not Hasbro.

Whirl is That bad?? I have and love him to be honest however I don't think that mold would make a good shockwave.. However a Rodimus from springer would be cool

Sabrblade wrote:

gantzrunner wrote:I really, REALLY wish they would stop with the "invaluable loli/preteen girl" concept in Japanese transformers. I love manga, anime, and western comics/animation equally do I'm not trying to be hateful but it's honestly starting to creep me out (see Kiss Players). I hope the comics made for cloud are creepy-robo-tongue-waggling-at-little-girls-free lol that aside... I only dislike Megatron, send he has the same terrible head sculpt as gdo Megatron. Really hope they make rodimus!

You are aware that that thing isn't a person, right? It's an A.I. entity called SARA.

Besides, how many of these have we had so far? Only Kiss Players and 15 Go! Go! Technically we could count T-AI from RiD too, which was before Kiss Players.

Why is this range called "Cloud"? Is the TF multi-verse, when viewed on a diagram, a cloud of some sort? Idk.

thedistinctroom wrote:Why is this range called "Cloud"? Is the TF multi-verse, when viewed on a diagram, a cloud of some sort? Idk.

The primary location of the line's fiction is a dimension called "Cloud World".

As for why, I dunno. Japan sometimes uses words that sound weird to us but might be fine for them.

thedistinctroom wrote:Why is this range called "Cloud"? Is the TF multi-verse, when viewed on a diagram, a cloud of some sort? Idk.

Possibly because the characters are from an intangible dimension? Or the toys are simply out of reach for most.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

thedistinctroom wrote:Why is this range called "Cloud"? Is the TF multi-verse, when viewed on a diagram, a cloud of some sort? Idk.

Possibly because the characters are from an intangible dimension? Or the toys are simply out of reach for most.

I like yr answer.

Sabrblade wrote:

thedistinctroom wrote:Why is this range called "Cloud"? Is the TF multi-verse, when viewed on a diagram, a cloud of some sort? Idk.

The primary location of the line's fiction is a dimension called "Cloud World".

As for why, I dunno. Japan sometimes uses words that sound weird to us but might be fine for them.

Well, that does explain it! Thanks!

We haven't heard much about the Takara Transformers Cloud line in a while, but thanks to Facebook page Planet Iacon we get a look at some in-hand images to TFC-AC01, Optimus Prime, and 02, Megatron, respectively based on the Classics/Henkei Voyager and the ROTF Bludgeon mold. In addition, some more Megatron images courtesy of MASABON1980, too, and some images from the included comic featuring the Generations Whirl styled Shockwave character, too - check them all out below!

That's not Generations Whirl. That's Cloud Shockwave who's an upcoming repaint of Generations Whirl.

KirbyForce1 wrote:That's not Generations Whirl. That's Cloud Shockwave who's an upcoming repaint of Generations Whirl.

Is it upcoming? We don't know. It's just as possible as the Hot Rod/Rodimus/Rodimus Prime from Springer. >:oP

You can hate me when I say this but, the Transformers: Cloud Optimus Prime looks better than the original Classics Optimus. I don't know why.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:You can hate me when I say this but, the Transformers: Cloud Optimus Prime looks better than the original Classics Optimus. I don't know why.

It's certainly more show-accurate than and not as cluttered in color as the original Classics version.

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:You can hate me when I say this but, the Transformers: Cloud Optimus Prime looks better than the original Classics Optimus. I don't know why.

It's certainly more show-accurate than and not as cluttered in color as the original Classics version.

In other words, dull. Sorry, but between the AOE 2-pack release being toy accurate and this cloud release being show accurate in their colors those 2 come across as the LEAST exciting releases of this mold thus far. True, each one has one point of major interest between lots of chrome on one and a G2 soundbox reference on the other, but on the whole they're very straitforward and meh. Neither of these will replace Henkei Convoy IME.

Megatron look pretty sweet in robot mode, but his tank mode is drab as hell.
Regardless of the black roof, that Optimus prime have LESS paint aps than the Henkei! WTF?

Will this worth 100$ + shipping for each figures? HELL NO!

-Kanrabat- wrote:Megatron look pretty sweet in robot mode, but his tank mode is drab as hell.
Regardless of the black roof, that Optimus prime have LESS paint aps than the Henkei! WTF?

All in the name of show-accuracy.

Mindmaster wrote:

KirbyForce1 wrote:That's not Generations Whirl. That's Cloud Shockwave who's an upcoming repaint of Generations Whirl.

Is it upcoming? We don't know. It's just as possible as the Hot Rod/Rodimus/Rodimus Prime from Springer. >:oP

It's very plausible actually, as all Cloud releases have been Voyagers so far, and molds and retools initially skipped by TakaraTomy (excluding Prime and Rodimus should he be next of course).
However, this is all rumor and speculation at this point, even until the 4th and final releases.

https://twitter.com/Hursticon/status/503002165124673537/photo/1

TFC-D04 is Hellwarp, a redeco of Generations Sky-Byte in Skywarp colors. The name "Hellwarp" is likely a homage to the Beast Wars II iteration of Starscream who upgraded into a robotic shark form called "Hellscream", with this figure likewise replacing the first part of the Seeker name with "Hell" while retaining the name's second part, giving us "Hellwarp".

TFC-A04 is Roadbuster, a redeco of Generations Roadbuster in the colors of Energon Ironhide, who was named "Roadbuster" in Transformers: Super Link, the Japanese version of Energon.

Looks like Transformers: Cloud finally got interesting. At the rate they're actually releasing the figures, these should be out by 2018 or so, right?

Thanks to Dengeki Hobby, we get a look at the next two figures in the Transformers Cloud line. Using the Generations Sky-Byte and Roadbuster molds, we get TFC-D04 Hellwarp and TFC-A04 Roadbuster. These were on display at the Chara Hobby 2014 show.

Thanks to Seibertron member Sabrblade we learn that Hellwarp is a Skywarpish homage to Beast Wars II Hellscream, an upgraded cybernetic shark form of Starscream. Roadbuster is a homage to Energon Ironhide who was called Roadbuster in the Japanese version of Energon, Transformers Super Link.

Check out our galleries of Energon Ironhide and Beast Wars II Hellscream to see how the homages compare.

I was just thinking the other day that Sky-Byte would make a decent Hellscream and now here it is!

And my God! I thought Brawn was a lame homage to a D-list character among great repaints of A-list characters like Optimus, Rodimus, Megatron, Starscream, and Shockwave. Energon Ironhide? One of the most reviled toys and characters in Transformers history.

can we get hellcracker and actual hellscream now? Hellscream wouldn't be that hard of a repaint of the stock skybyte

Both of these are hilariously awesome and will be bought.

I have a feeling that as more time passes we will be getting more and obscure character references in toy form. Who seriously has some sort of appreciation for Energon Ironhide and his wide array of facial expressions?
Desepticon? What's up with the people who make these labels?

Roadbuster!

hellwarp? more like hell no. is the roadbuster mold a retool?

No new tooling on Roadbuster.

Also the article left out that Hellwarp is a Skywarp homage more than it is a Hellscream homage.

Randy

That Energon Ironhide actually looks pretty cool. I always liked the look of the original figure (which I sadly never got), and this is a good homage. It's a shame that the Energon cartoon sucked, but I can always just treat this as G1 Ironhide in a new body.

Also, this gives me an excuse to get this mold and still buy Fansproject's Roadbuster. And Recoiler and Riftshot whilst I'm at it.

(As for why this character is getting a homage, remember that Superlink was a lot less painful in Japanese- the animation still sucked and the plot was still kinda dull and overlong, but AFAIK the voice acting was decent and the dialogue actually made sense. Also I don't think Roadbuster/Ironhide was anywhere near as annoying in Japanese as he was in the dub- similar case to Chibi-Usa from Sailor Moon and poor, poor Shinji Ikari from Evangelion.)

As for Hellwarp? Weird, but I do like it. I'd love to get the Hellscream mold some day, so maybe when I have him and RID Sky-Byte I'll get this and have a trio of "Shark Seekers".

Powered Convoy wrote:No new tooling on Roadbuster.

Also the article left out that Hellwarp is a Skywarp homage more than it is a Hellscream homage.

Randy

It's a little bit of both actually. you'll understand the colors chosen a bit more once you see Hellscream's original form:



BWII Starscream's colors happen to be close to G1 Skywarp's colors (by coincidence, as it was originally meant for G2). So in a sense we have a Hellscream in his original Jet colors, which can double as a Skywarp homage, hence the name. Just be open-minded about the purple, it's such a hard color to get right.

And I'm calling it now: Cloud Roadbuster repurposed as SG Roadbuster

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Powered Convoy wrote:No new tooling on Roadbuster.

Also the article left out that Hellwarp is a Skywarp homage more than it is a Hellscream homage.

Randy

It's a little bit of both actually. you'll understand the colors chosen a bit more once you see Hellscream's original form:



BWII Starscream's colors happen to be close to G1 Skywarp's colors (by coincidence, as it was originally meant for G2). So in a sense we have a Hellscream in his original Jet colors, which can double as a Skywarp homage, hence the name. Just be open-minded about the purple, it's such a hard color to get right.

And I'm calling it now: Cloud Roadbuster repurposed as SG Roadbuster

I'm thinking the connection to BWII Starscream's colors are a bit more coincidental, with the whole warp part of the name. Granted the Hell part is clearly drawing the connection to Hellscream (who was BWII Starscream and all that). So it's a Skywarp homage in color scheme and name, but the naming convention follows suit with Hellscream. Kind of like how when Hot Rod was upgraded into Rodimus Prime. He's an updated Hot Rod following the Optimus Prime naming convention, more than an homage to Optimus Prime.

Randy

Powered Convoy wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Powered Convoy wrote:No new tooling on Roadbuster.

Also the article left out that Hellwarp is a Skywarp homage more than it is a Hellscream homage.

Randy

It's a little bit of both actually. you'll understand the colors chosen a bit more once you see Hellscream's original form:



BWII Starscream's colors happen to be close to G1 Skywarp's colors (by coincidence, as it was originally meant for G2). So in a sense we have a Hellscream in his original Jet colors, which can double as a Skywarp homage, hence the name. Just be open-minded about the purple, it's such a hard color to get right.

And I'm calling it now: Cloud Roadbuster repurposed as SG Roadbuster

I'm thinking the connection to BWII Starscream's colors are a bit more coincidental, with the whole warp part of the name. Granted the Hell part is clearly drawing the connection to Hellscream (who was BWII Starscream and all that). So it's a Skywarp homage in color scheme and name, but the naming convention follows suit with Hellscream. Kind of like how when Hot Rod was upgraded into Rodimus Prime. He's an updated Hot Rod following the Optimus Prime naming convention, more than an homage to Optimus Prime.

Randy

Yeah, that's what I was going for when I first mentioned it. Guy with a Seeker name (Skywarp) gets a shark form that has the first part of his name replaced with "Hell" while keeping the same part of the name (Hellwarp).

Hellwarp is just...ugly with those colors. He looks like G1 Galvatron scanned Sky-Byte and it gave him unpleasant results.

We should also note that these will be the final releases for Cloud. And I will say they both came out of left field. Guess the Beast Hunters Ultra Magnus was a red herring.

looks at cloud Roadbuster.... i am calling this i predict that this will be repurposed as energon Ironhide which i havet seen a energon Ironhide figure at any place in a while...it would look good in my dorm. now i sit and wait for homages to more UT characters

First BotCon Treadshot and now this.

Who's the worst toy in Cybertron/Galaxy Force?

Blurrz wrote:First BotCon Treadshot and now this.

Who's the worst toy in Cybertron/Galaxy Force?

Most should agree it's Lugnuts aka Road Storm.

Note: Blurzz was talking abut this guy, SG Treadshot:



Based on Armada Sideswipe, as Universe 2003 Treadshot was a repaint of him. No relation to G1 Treadshot.

Alrighty then Renderform please step up and give this Roadbuster repaint some representation with a new head...c'mon!!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We should also note that these will be the final releases for Cloud.

awww really?

and this ironhide/RB is great for those who want FP's recoiler (which has already been mentioned). and i dont even care what the basis is for a skywarp shark, im there