New Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-13B Soundblaster with Ratbat
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Posted by mooncake623 on March 17th, 2014 @ 12:34pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 17th, 2014 @ 12:37pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on March 17th, 2014 @ 12:39pm CDT
Posted by Joetx on March 17th, 2014 @ 12:48pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 17th, 2014 @ 12:57pm CDT
No, his chest door has been altered to jut out more, like the G1 toy.Joetx wrote:So unlike G1 Soundblaster, who was more than a recolor of G1 Soundwave, MP Soundblaster is just a recolor of MP Soundwave, right?
Posted by megatronus on March 17th, 2014 @ 1:20pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No, his chest door has been altered to jut out more, like the G1 toy.Joetx wrote:So unlike G1 Soundblaster, who was more than a recolor of G1 Soundwave, MP Soundblaster is just a recolor of MP Soundwave, right?
I didn't realize that - well played, Takara. That's a really nice touch.
Posted by Joetx on March 17th, 2014 @ 3:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No, his chest door has been altered to jut out more, like the G1 toy.Joetx wrote:So unlike G1 Soundblaster, who was more than a recolor of G1 Soundwave, MP Soundblaster is just a recolor of MP Soundwave, right?
Does that mean he's able to carry 1 more cassette than MP Soundwave?
Posted by Sabrblade on March 17th, 2014 @ 3:22pm CDT
Probably not. The door's just probably thicker.Joetx wrote:Sabrblade wrote:No, his chest door has been altered to jut out more, like the G1 toy.Joetx wrote:So unlike G1 Soundblaster, who was more than a recolor of G1 Soundwave, MP Soundblaster is just a recolor of MP Soundwave, right?
Does that mean he's able to carry 1 more cassette than MP Soundwave?
Though, between Soundwave and Soundblaster, both them together would be able to fully store all six cassettes at once, with each of them containing three.
Posted by Economus Prime on March 17th, 2014 @ 6:00pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on March 17th, 2014 @ 6:18pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 17th, 2014 @ 7:18pm CDT
The extended door is cartoon-accurate. It's just difficult to see in The Headmasters cartoon since his torso is mostly black and the change is really subtle.Rated X wrote:On the extended cassette door: It seems pretty stupid to replicate a corny G1 toy gimmick on a figure thats supposed to be shooting for cartoon accuracy.
Here's Soundwave's character model.
And here is Soundblaster's.
Posted by Stormrider on March 17th, 2014 @ 7:45pm CDT
Posted by MINDVVIPE on March 17th, 2014 @ 8:52pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on March 17th, 2014 @ 9:26pm CDT
Posted by Joetx on March 18th, 2014 @ 1:08am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Probably not. The door's just probably thicker.Joetx wrote:Sabrblade wrote:No, his chest door has been altered to jut out more, like the G1 toy.Joetx wrote:So unlike G1 Soundblaster, who was more than a recolor of G1 Soundwave, MP Soundblaster is just a recolor of MP Soundwave, right?
Does that mean he's able to carry 1 more cassette than MP Soundwave?
Though, between Soundwave and Soundblaster, both them together would be able to fully store all six cassettes at once, with each of them containing three.
I'm not trying to be a demanding fan, I swear!
What I am doing is trying to see whether I can justify spending the money when I already have the TRU release of MP Soundwave & Co., & all I really want is Ratbat.
Posted by toyskingstudio on March 18th, 2014 @ 1:48am CDT
Posted by toyskingstudio on March 18th, 2014 @ 1:48am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on March 18th, 2014 @ 3:51am CDT
Hasui: "The chest expansion panel of MP-13B Sound Blaster is removable. The the inner chest panel is toy-accurate clear red."
Posted by El Duque on March 18th, 2014 @ 8:07am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 18th, 2014 @ 8:17am CDT
And the attachment is reminiscent of both the MP Soundwave version that came with that attachable grid window, as well as being accurate to both the original toy and cartoon model that each had an extended chest window.
Posted by Maquese on March 18th, 2014 @ 8:26am CDT
Posted by AutoBorst on March 18th, 2014 @ 10:27am CDT
Posted by zodconvoy on March 18th, 2014 @ 3:05pm CDT
Posted by Stormrider on March 18th, 2014 @ 9:02pm CDT
Mkall wrote:Eventually there will be a way to get MP Ratbat on his own or part of a later set. I eagerly await that time.
Yes, I am waiting for the purge, too.
Posted by Cyberpath on March 19th, 2014 @ 4:03am CDT
Hasui posted this comparison photo of MP13B and G1 Ratbat, and added that the former is more cartoon accurate and transforms without extra parts (like MP Laserbeak.)
Posted by Va'al on March 19th, 2014 @ 6:42am CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 19th, 2014 @ 7:10am CDT
Posted by Rated X on March 19th, 2014 @ 7:39am CDT
Posted by reluctantyouth on March 19th, 2014 @ 8:24am CDT
~reluctantyouth~
Posted by TimothyR on March 19th, 2014 @ 9:00am CDT
Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...
really?.. you don't understand the logic behind the MP scale.. what is it that you don't understand?.. is it that they didn't want to make MP soundwaves chest gigantic, but rather keep it relatively in scale to itself?.. or that they wanted MP soundwave to obtain the ability to house the cassettes in his chest.. which, leads me back to my first point..
so.. again, which don't you understand?
not sure how it's "dumb as hell".. but hey, you can continue to believe it.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 19th, 2014 @ 9:10am CDT
Isn't it obvious? It's for backtrack compatibility with the G1 Soundwave and Blaster toys. It's to give them an extra level of playability across both lines to let them each use each other's cassettes.Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...
It's the same reason that the Ravage that came with Universe Hound was likewise scaled to fit inside G1 Soundwave's chest (though, specifically the remolded chest version, which Hasbro did release at TRU during Classics).
Not to mention that the G1 Soundwave chest was proportionately huge compared to the rest of his body. Guy looked liked billboard with limbs and a head. But keeping that chest door size scaled as it was and upscaling the rest of his body brings out a more reasonably proportioned bot, with proportions that not only look more natural but also match up with his cartoon model proportions. Otherwise, had G1 Soundwave been proportionally-correct from the beginning, either his G1 toy would have already been MP-sized (like G1 Blaster's toy was) or his chest door and cassettes would have been teeny-tiny.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 19th, 2014 @ 10:06am CDT
Posted by megatronus on March 19th, 2014 @ 10:57am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't know how but there has to be a way to release rat bat without Soundblaster. Then again there might be more cassettes on the way so this might get a summertime us release.
I highly doubt there will be a release of Ratbat by himself or in a 2-pack. Wingthing, on the other hand...
Posted by Rated X on March 19th, 2014 @ 11:35am CDT
TimothyR wrote:Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...
really?.. you don't understand the logic behind the MP scale.. what is it that you don't understand?.. is it that they didn't want to make MP soundwaves chest gigantic, but rather keep it relatively in scale to itself?.. or that they wanted MP soundwave to obtain the ability to house the cassettes in his chest.. which, leads me back to my first point..
so.. again, which don't you understand?
not sure how it's "dumb as hell".. but hey, you can continue to believe it.
I didn't think it took a rocket scientist to realize that by not enlarging the cassettes, cartoon scale was sacrificed for "playability". in my honest opinion, playability was for kids toys (hence G1 toy scale) If Takara chose the toy scale over the cartoon scale, they dropped the ball. The MP line was supposed to be cartoon accurate. Am I the only adult on here who just displays $150 figures rather than "playing" with them ? Either way it works for me because now the casettes are really classics scale which is what I collect. MP Soundwave hangs out in the vintage cabinet next to his G1 counterpart still waiting to be transformed for the first time. One of these days...
Posted by mooncake623 on March 19th, 2014 @ 12:07pm CDT
I'm going to display Rodimus fighting against Soundblaster and Sixshot(MMC's Hexatron) in a detolf.
Posted by zodconvoy on March 19th, 2014 @ 12:34pm CDT
Rated X wrote:I didn't think it took a rocket scientist to realize that by not enlarging the cassettes, cartoon scale was sacrificed for "playability". in my honest opinion, playability was for kids toys (hence G1 toy scale) If Takara chose the toy scale over the cartoon scale, they dropped the ball. The MP line was supposed to be cartoon accurate. Am I the only adult on here who just displays $150 figures rather than "playing" with them ? Either way it works for me because now the casettes are really classics scale which is what I collect. MP Soundwave hangs out in the vintage cabinet next to his G1 counterpart still waiting to be transformed for the first time. One of these days...
Okay, in the cartoon Rumble (yes, the blue one) was about the same size as Spike, maybe a little taller. Scaling him to Spike would have made Rumble about an inch and a half tall. But at the same time, they show him as nearly as tall as Hound. And Bumblebee is a full sized car that ends up maybe 7' tall in robot mode.
Then there's this:
And this:
And this:
But aside from all of the sliding scales and mass-shifting, there is a very practical reason for the cassettes to be that size:
Laserbeak has to be the right size to interact with Soundwave (and eventually Megatron). Like 80% of Laserbeak's purpose in the series is to show who is in command of the Decepticons. He's been on my Soundwave's arm pretty much since I got them and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.
Posted by megatronus on March 19th, 2014 @ 12:38pm CDT
zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.
MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.
Posted by zodconvoy on March 19th, 2014 @ 2:10pm CDT
megatronus wrote:zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.
MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.
It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!
Posted by Samsonator on March 19th, 2014 @ 5:51pm CDT
zodconvoy wrote:A whole buncha truth about the cartoon's "scale"
Agreed, man... the scale of the cassettes never bothered me, as in the show there was never a consistent size to them in the first place, except Laserbeak's shoulder/arm perching. the MP Laserbeak fits that scale perfectly, and the other cassettes scale with him so they all have the same sized cassette mode. Makes completely logical sense to me.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 19th, 2014 @ 6:44pm CDT
Posted by toyskingstudio on March 19th, 2014 @ 9:06pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on March 20th, 2014 @ 2:01pm CDT
zodconvoy wrote:megatronus wrote:zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.
MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.
It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!
Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.
It's totally MP-100.
Posted by mooncake623 on March 20th, 2014 @ 3:34pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:zodconvoy wrote:megatronus wrote:zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.
MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.
It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!
Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.
It's totally MP-100.
I'll be really happy if this line makes it to MP-100. think about that's 100 MPs!!!
Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2014 @ 3:39pm CDT
And Unicron will be MP-666Mindmaster wrote:zodconvoy wrote:megatronus wrote:zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.
MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.
It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!
Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.
It's totally MP-100.
Posted by Mindmaster on March 20th, 2014 @ 3:54pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And Unicron will be MP-666Mindmaster wrote:zodconvoy wrote:megatronus wrote:zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.
MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.
It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!
Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.
It's totally MP-100.
That was pretty clever. Ten internetz to you!
Posted by shajaki on March 20th, 2014 @ 7:48pm CDT
megatronus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't know how but there has to be a way to release rat bat without Soundblaster. Then again there might be more cassettes on the way so this might get a summertime us release.
I highly doubt there will be a release of Ratbat by himself or in a 2-pack. Wingthing, on the other hand...
i think if theres another (takara) two pack MP cassette set released, itll be overkill and slugfest.
i dont see what the gripe over this set is. they are clearly trying to get as much as they can out of every MP mold they design. and soundwave only has two uses. and it makes sense that they would add some incentive to rebuy the mold (ratbat). id say the purple window is just too similar to soundwave, but with the red window he look awesome!
so:
-sweet looking repaint
-awesome mold to begin with
-new tape
that equals a buy to me!
Posted by hinesika on March 21st, 2014 @ 3:36am CDT
Posted by Va'al on March 21st, 2014 @ 5:25am CDT
Posted by Stormrider on March 21st, 2014 @ 8:12am CDT
Posted by Susha on March 21st, 2014 @ 8:29am CDT
shajaki wrote:i dont see what the gripe over this set is. they are clearly trying to get as much as they can out of every MP mold they design. and soundwave only has two uses. and it makes sense that they would add some incentive to rebuy the mold (ratbat). id say the purple window is just too similar to soundwave, but with the red window he look awesome!
making most of the ratbat mold would mean catering to 3 categories of clients. Those that don't got soundwave, they can buy sb and ratbat and get the cassettes seperately. Those that got soundwave and won't be spending on sb, but most importantly once these 2 categories have been covered, ratbat mold has a much greater potential than SB. Namely that while SB is a niche toy at a very high price, ratbat can be sold with another cassette for $25. There are few MP's at that price and that makes them more appealing to a wider demographics. I don't think anycompany would miss out on that.