New HasLab Unicron Video Highlights Planet Mode

Do not be fooled. The premium detail and deco are, indeed, inspired by classic 1986 movie, but it is not, in fact, The Lord of Chaos himself.

Huh?

Sabrblade wrote:

Do not be fooled. The premium detail and deco are, indeed, inspired by classic 1986 movie, but it is not, in fact, The Lord of Chaos himself.

Huh?

Yeah, it took me a moment to figure out that that they mean it's a super high detailed toy and not the real Unicron. Super awkward thing to put in there.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:the numbers likely do not reflect international and third party orders yet.

It's not "likely", it's a known fact that the number doesn't include all international orders.

Burn wrote:

Emerje wrote:the numbers likely do not reflect international and third party orders yet.

It's not "likely", it's a known fact that the number doesn't include all international orders.

Just the affiliated international orders, we don't know what the domestic and international third party shops are doing. They could be waiting until the end to submit their orders or they could be placing the 5 unit maximum as they reach them, we don't know hence the "likely".

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Burn wrote:

Emerje wrote:the numbers likely do not reflect international and third party orders yet.

It's not "likely", it's a known fact that the number doesn't include all international orders.

Just the affiliated international orders, we don't know what the domestic and international third party shops are doing. They could be waiting until the end to submit their orders or they could be placing the 5 unit maximum as they reach them, we don't know hence the "likely".

Emerje

Which is why I intentionally left out third party shops.

I will be very sad if this doesn't happen.

That chrome is really nice, but the way the spikes sit on the sides is really lame, you can tell it's on a long rubber piece and not firmly sitting in there. I would have liked to see a bit more paint as well. I'm still hoping this doesn't make it and we get an even better take on him one day.

YRQRM0 wrote:That chrome is really nice, but the way the spikes sit on the sides is really lame, you can tell it's on a long rubber piece and not firmly sitting in there. I would have liked to see a bit more paint as well. I'm still hoping this doesn't make it and we get an even better take on him one day.

Considering this is meant to be the best version anything after this is going to be a compromise of sorts. They don't have an easy task to turn a perfect sphere into a G1 accurate robot mode. Armada cheated with the planet shells while Primus got the benefit of being designed to take into account the planet pieces (if he happened in G1 toon, his planet pieces would have disappeared perfectly as well)

Emerje wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I know it was an accepted thing by Beast Wars, but teeth on Transformers really creep me out. It is just wrong

Don't spend a lot of time looking at your signature do you?

Emerje

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I tend to go for option C, the context sensitive, situational faces of Beast Wars. Wherein your altmode doesn't just determine your outer shell, but is reflected throughout your entire aesthetic. Some characters have mouths, teeth, no mouths, no eyes etc But as long as it is consistent with their overall design

ZeroWolf wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:That chrome is really nice, but the way the spikes sit on the sides is really lame, you can tell it's on a long rubber piece and not firmly sitting in there. I would have liked to see a bit more paint as well. I'm still hoping this doesn't make it and we get an even better take on him one day.

Considering this is meant to be the best version anything after this is going to be a compromise of sorts. They don't have an easy task to turn a perfect sphere into a G1 accurate robot mode. Armada cheated with the planet shells while Primus got the benefit of being designed to take into account the planet pieces (if he happened in G1 toon, his planet pieces would have disappeared perfectly as well)

I agree with this. This was essentially called our Masterpiece Unicron. We won't get any better than this

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:That chrome is really nice, but the way the spikes sit on the sides is really lame, you can tell it's on a long rubber piece and not firmly sitting in there. I would have liked to see a bit more paint as well. I'm still hoping this doesn't make it and we get an even better take on him one day.

Considering this is meant to be the best version anything after this is going to be a compromise of sorts. They don't have an easy task to turn a perfect sphere into a G1 accurate robot mode. Armada cheated with the planet shells while Primus got the benefit of being designed to take into account the planet pieces (if he happened in G1 toon, his planet pieces would have disappeared perfectly as well)

I agree with this. This was essentially called our Masterpiece Unicron. We won't get any better than this

I get it, but for me downsizing would actually be a big improvement, I really just don't care for him to be this big, the same way that I don't care that MP-10 is smaller than MP-1 was. Unicron won't scale with anything so it doesn't matter to me. Surely they can use what they've learned to make a solid similar robot mode and planet mode, maybe without the stand and some articulation/feature loss, but good-looking all the same. Just look how far we've come with some of the Masterpiece characters who have had multiple iterations, or the hundreds of movie prime iterations for example. This will be the best Unicron for some people, but for me there's room for improvement.

Well if it doesn’t work out who knows maybe we’ll get a smaller version or incarnation like at the end of Cybertron. He’ll just be a spiky tank or a spiky car instead of hellish horned death world.

I just backed Unicron, but I'm only 2803 out of 8000. I begged my wife for this so I do hope that it makes it.

Iamrook wrote:I just backed Unicron, but I'm only 2803 out of 8000. I begged my wife for this so I do hope that it makes it.

You and me both, brother.

Hasbro Pulse now has a complete transformation video for Unicron.

Man, this thing is way more involved in its transformation than the Armada Unicron mold. So many little pieces and parts moving to all sorts of places.

Just in from Hasbro we have a video showing the step by step transformation of Unicron from demonic planet to devilish robot! The video is staring Kunihiro, Senior Product Design with TakaraTomy, this time a tad dressed down from his more formal tuxedo. It's amazing to see how they've managed to compress and fold the shell of a sphere predominantly in his legs. It truly is the cutting edge of Transformer toy engineering. Just like in the cartoon this Unicron has no precedent. There never has been and may never be another Transformers toy on this scale or with this attention to detail. Unicron definitely marks an enormous signpost on the road of the life of this brand. 2019 will forevermore be known as the year of War for Cybertron, the year of Siege, (the year of Rung) and the year of Unicron!

The Chaos Bringer, the darkest of dark ones is just under 3,000 orders currently out of the minimum of 8,000 with only ten more days to go. Even Unicron needs help sometimes! You have the power to tame the malicious maw that seeks to devour the galaxy! Show your support for this project and put in your order by clicking this link!
Enjoy the view and share your thoughts with the Seibertron crew in the forum. And as always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!

I have a feeling Hasbro might make this even if it doesnt reach the requirement. There seems to be a lot of background information surfacing on this as compared to the sail barge. Of course, I might be wrong since I didn't follow the development of that as closely as Unicron.

impressive. i like how it doesnt seem to be necessary to remove the stand

why that music? if they want to sell better use G1 music, such movie, or get rights to play cybertronic spree...

BERSEKAEL wrote:why that music? if they want to sell better use G1 music, such movie, or get rights to play cybertronic spree...

It’s just background music who cares and if I had to listen to the g1 theme which is 30 seconds long 6 times for over 5 minutes I’d slit my wrists

I have to be honest, watching that video made me want it less because of the sheer amount of work it takes to transform it. But I'm not a hardcore TF fan, won't ever claim to be. The cost, the wait, and really just because it's a character that I'm not really in to, I'm passing.

Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Now, if they can just include that rotating turntable as well so we don't have to keep taking trips walking around this figure to transform it from all sides.

we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing for an expensive product. $1000 plus if shiped to europe

and here is a decent G1 music better than the crap they have, is 8 times longer than 30 seconds
https://youtu.be/SpY4na_ofxs

BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing

we really don't

Rainmaker wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing

we really don't

Seconded.

Burn wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing

we really don't

Seconded.

Thirded.

Also, I am impressed at the fact that there's barely any parts forming. I knew there had to be some, but I did not expect it to be so minimal.

Sabrblade wrote:Now, if they can just include that rotating turntable as well so we don't have to keep taking trips walking around this figure to transform it from all sides.

Hey, with as long as it takes to transform him, and with as many times as you have to walk around him, they are just trying to save you a gym membership

I love some of the Twitter and Facebook comments where people are all like "it's too complex" or "now I see the price more, but it needs a warranty for how complex it is"

What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow

People are just looking for reasons to justify why they don't want him.

Or they're just lame and nitpick over the tiniest of things, take your pick.

Burn wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow

People are just looking for reasons to justify why they don't want him.

That's been the case since day 1 and I have grown tired of it. August 31 can't happen quick enough so that we can move on from this thing and the people that don't want him (or don't want to want him) can just move onto something else.

At TFcon DC 2017, the design style of one of the third-party manufacturers was described as "explode into a million pieces chained together". That's kinda what I'm seeing in the transformation video, what with the four planet-quadrants that hang off the legs during an intermediate stage, and the entire forward midline and maw as a backpack.

The radii of the planet- and robot-mode curves are different, and the obvious solution is shellforming, but I'm disappointed that it's all via hinges and floppy swing-bars instead of sliding joints. Actually, I'm more disappointed that they didn't devise an eversion technique -- that is, the body parts turn inside-out, to reduce kibble and increase density. (Something like MP-48 Lio Convoy, whose lion head and mane swap between "organic" and "sculptural".)

Consider those flexible spike-studded equator strips, described above as "flypaper". Why not roll them onto the shoulders, where the Flory Dery model has spikes at the base of each wing? Or at worst, stuff them inside the torso? (Maybe the torso volume is reserved for light-and-sound gimmicks.)

Now I'm curious to see if one of the third-party makers comes up with a version at the (currently popular) Legends scale. "There's this tiny weird-lookin' planet shovin' up the suburbs of Cybertron." "Jazz, you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope."

Personally, I'm in a weird place with Unicron. Like, I don't want him (exclusively because of the price and space) but I understand why others do. But, I also for some reason really wish he was smaller, just so Fort Max could still have the tallest toy because that was what his toy was known for. It's such a weird nitpicky reason that I have no reason to have because I grew up with Animated and the movies, so I obviously never had the original Fort Max and thus don't have the nostalgia for owning the tallest Transformers toy ever. But every time I see a new update on Unicron I have the same feeling I get with 3rd Party figures with the "That looks awesome! Too bad I'll never be able to afford it"

1) It’s too complex.

2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.

1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

Wow, writing a product off because of the backing music in ONE of it's advertising videos.

Only problem is, Bakugan have been doing balls to robots for years now. Unicron should have been able to roll along the floor for a quick change and slightly leap in the air like the battle chargers (also come with a disclaimer about crushed pets or kids if the action feature is used improperly).

1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

I hear there's a mute button on the figure so it doesn't play the music while you're transforming it.

And watching the video I have to laugh a little at the people that originally insisted this Unicron wasn't any more complex than the Armada version.

Now I want to see a video of Unicron being transformed back into planet mode and see how much time it takes to get all the panels aligned.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

I hear there's a mute button on the figure so it doesn't play the music while you're transforming it.

And watching the video I have to laugh a little at the people that originally insisted this Unicron wasn't any more complex than the Armada version.

Now I want to see a video of Unicron being transformed back into planet mode and see how much time it takes to get all the panels aligned.

Emerje

There was people who actually thought that?

So I know a must buy, and I know a pass but what is a must pass?

ZeroWolf wrote:So I know a must buy, and I know a pass but what is a must pass?

Whatever it is, it sounds to me like when little boys absolutely don't want their grandma or aunt to give them a kiss in front of their friends.

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

Sabrblade wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

If we double the size, we won't have to worry about the durability of hard spikes at that point. Problem solved!

unicron1200 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

If we double the size, we won't have to worry about the durability of hard spikes at that point. Problem solved!

Well, if you're willing to fork over $1200 for a 54-inch-tall Unicron, then good on you.

I would love to see Cybertron Primus parked right in front of him I bet it looks perfect.

And that song just makes me want it more.

Xylophones and Unicron like chocolate in my peanut butter, so good.

Stargrave wrote:I would love to see Cybertron Primus parked right in front of him I bet it looks perfect.

Going by the movie, Cybertron ought to be bigger than Unicron. Much bigger.

Yeah I was completely wrong.

Stargrave wrote:Yeah I was completely wrong.

It's that darn shot of him eating Lithone from earlier in the movie that always throws people off.

Without knowing it's not Cybertron, the movie literally opens with a scene that makes it look like Cybertron gets eaten first thing, then we have to sit through the LONG theme song title sequence before we get Victor Caroli's narration showing us that Cybertron's A-OK and what we saw before was not what we thought it was.

Seen it more than any other movie and still did that exact thing. Ah well.

Sabrblade wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

Meh, if it was Bandai they'd be die cast metal spikes (& $2000) and they would go somewhere.

blackeyedprime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

Meh, if it was Bandai they'd be die cast metal spikes (& $2000) and they would go somewhere.

You talkin' Bandai of America or Bandai of Japan? Cuz Hasbro had to go through American toy safety regulations.

1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.

2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

Well, he is a planet former, he kind of needs to be complex to properly pull off both modes...

And as for 2.... that may be the worst hot take I have seen, and believe me, I have about smashed my head reading some of them.