More News on Paramount / Hasbro Shared Universe: New Director, Plotting Alternate Earth, Bumblebee
Monday, October 17th, 2016 4:07PM CDT
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- The writers' room (which we reported on multiple times) has plotted out a lot of mythos for the Transformers universe and beyond, and artists were brought in too. Their goal was to create an alternate history of earth and how thre have been ties to Cybertronian technology all along. Out of the group work, The Last Knight and the 2018 Bumblebee spin-off were chosen. The preparatory material has been printed into a hardcover book, but only distributed to 'insiders'.
- Things work in five-year business plans, as confirmed by Hasbro's Brian Goldner.
- Paramount are looking for a different director than Bay for the next movie - and that means the 2018 animated Bumblebee on. This does not mean that Bay is definitely out. Let's make that clear!
- The elements started in Transformers Age of Extinction and now The Last Knight will spill over into possible GI Joe and MASK stories and plans, so we'll have to wait and see what those elements actually are!
Join in the discussion in the Energon Pub, and stay tuned to find out more as we do!
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Posted by Kurona on October 17th, 2016 @ 4:45pm CDT
Posted by Burn on October 17th, 2016 @ 5:12pm CDT
Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.
So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.
Posted by Kurona on October 17th, 2016 @ 5:19pm CDT
Burn wrote:Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.
So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.
Can't say I know of it, but basically the framework for any sort of movie where there's humans piloting impressive CGI mechs/vehicles/whatever. Pacific Rim, Batman, friggin'... probably the upcoming Power Rangers movie; you name it.
Posted by BeastProwl on October 17th, 2016 @ 5:34pm CDT
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 17th, 2016 @ 6:02pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on October 17th, 2016 @ 6:55pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 17th, 2016 @ 6:59pm CDT
Wonder how it'll look. Think I might actually check it out if it has a pleasing aesthetic; I've always preferred animation to live-action.
Posted by Munkky on October 18th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CDT
Paramount are looking for a different director than Bay for the next movie
I'm predicting a slew of threads about dream directors for Transformers 6, based entirely around one or two good movies they've made recently and regardless of whether or not that director's particular style would fit Transformers or not.
While I do plan to watch The Last Knight, TF6, and probably the Bumblebee movie as well, I do hope this shared cinematic universe craze in Hollywood fades away sooner rather than later. Marvel are the only people who have done the formula well (and this is coming from someone who doesn't like Marvel), and every time a studio announces a shared universe of movies it only ever feels like they're jumping on a bandwagon and not much time or effort is being put in. With that said, I'm still interested in seeing Justice League and Kong: Skull Island, and I hope the Hasbro shared universe does well.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 18th, 2016 @ 12:25pm CDT
TF6 is the Bumblebee movie.Munkky wrote:While I do plan to watch The Last Knight, TF6, and probably the Bumblebee movie as well,
Posted by Munkky on October 18th, 2016 @ 12:35pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:TF6 is the Bumblebee movie.Munkky wrote:While I do plan to watch The Last Knight, TF6, and probably the Bumblebee movie as well,
Is it? I was going by the Wikipedia page, which says TF6 will be the 2019 movie made after the Bumblebee spin-off.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 18th, 2016 @ 1:26pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 18th, 2016 @ 4:05pm CDT
That's TF7. Sounds like someone on (the ever-unreliable) Wikipedia doesn't want to acknowledge the Bumblebee movie as being the sixth movie.Munkky wrote:Sabrblade wrote:TF6 is the Bumblebee movie.Munkky wrote:While I do plan to watch The Last Knight, TF6, and probably the Bumblebee movie as well,
Is it? I was going by the Wikipedia page, which says TF6 will be the 2019 movie made after the Bumblebee spin-off.
Posted by SlyTF1 on October 18th, 2016 @ 7:58pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 18th, 2016 @ 10:30pm CDT
Burn wrote:Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.
So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.
I remember that. I actually thought it was semi-decent actually, but I dabble
Posted by JazZeke on October 19th, 2016 @ 12:02am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.
So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.
I remember that. I actually thought it was semi-decent actually, but I dabble
It was awful. It's pseudo-science was so terrible, so stupid that it would make Doctor Who roll his eyes. One time they identified a killer by scanning the residual sound waves in a room. I couldn't stand to watch it.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 19th, 2016 @ 12:06am CDT
JazZeke wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.
So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.
I remember that. I actually thought it was semi-decent actually, but I dabble
It was awful. It's pseudo-science was so terrible, so stupid that it would make Doctor Who roll his eyes. One time they identified a killer by scanning the residual sound waves in a room. I couldn't stand to watch it.
Like I said, I thought it was semi-decent. I was also 13 at the time and had no background information on it at the time. It was something fun to watch before going to bed
Posted by JazZeke on October 19th, 2016 @ 12:11am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:JazZeke wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.
So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.
I remember that. I actually thought it was semi-decent actually, but I dabble
It was awful. It's pseudo-science was so terrible, so stupid that it would make Doctor Who roll his eyes. One time they identified a killer by scanning the residual sound waves in a room. I couldn't stand to watch it.
Like I said, I thought it was semi-decent. I was also 13 at the time and had no background information on it at the time. It was something fun to watch before going to bed
And now you made me feel old. Thank you very much.
Posted by TulioDude on November 1st, 2016 @ 9:44pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on November 1st, 2016 @ 9:54pm CDT
Unless it's a prequel set on Cybertron showing us how he lost his voice (*RIP Movie Prequel comics* )TulioDude wrote:I imagine the Bumblebee spin-off being like a movie interpretation of the RID cartoon(2015),with Bumblebee forming his own team to fight a menace that lingers on Earth.
Posted by TulioDude on November 2nd, 2016 @ 9:34pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Unless it's a prequel set on Cybertron showing us how he lost his voice (*RIP Movie Prequel comics* )TulioDude wrote:I imagine the Bumblebee spin-off being like a movie interpretation of the RID cartoon(2015),with Bumblebee forming his own team to fight a menace that lingers on Earth.
In my mind,the most likely thing would be few flashback scenes,maybe even to show something the carries to the present,and Bumblebee in the present,with him remembering or telling these events.
The talk off a bigger universe makes me feel like they wouldn't so eager to forget the other stories,at least not from here onward anyway.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2016 @ 10:35pm CDT
I don't think the filmmakers really hold much regard at all for any of the movie-based comics, since none of those comics had any bearing on the films themselves, and have all been virtually ignored by the films anyway. None of the films have ever given any acknowledgement of the comics' stories within the films' own onscreen narratives. If they wanted to, the filmmakers could easily create their own brand new backstory for how Bumblebee lost his voice that completely ignores the Movie Prequel comics, so long as it wouldn't conflict with what we've seen in the first four films.TulioDude wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Unless it's a prequel set on Cybertron showing us how he lost his voice (*RIP Movie Prequel comics* )TulioDude wrote:I imagine the Bumblebee spin-off being like a movie interpretation of the RID cartoon(2015),with Bumblebee forming his own team to fight a menace that lingers on Earth.
In my mind,the most likely thing would be few flashback scenes,maybe even to show something the carries to the present,and Bumblebee in the present,with him remembering or telling these events.
The talk off a bigger universe makes me feel like they wouldn't so eager to forget the other stories,at least not from here onward anyway.
Also, unless I'm misremembering, isn't the Bumblebee movie going to be animated?
Posted by TulioDude on November 3rd, 2016 @ 11:08am CDT
Also, unless I'm misremembering, isn't the Bumblebee movie going to be animated?
Don't know,I'm waiting for official confirmation before commenting on this.
Sabrblade wrote:I don't think the filmmakers really hold much regard at all for any of the movie-based comics, since none of those comics had any bearing on the films themselves, and have all been virtually ignored by the films anyway. None of the films have ever given any acknowledgement of the comics' stories within the films' own onscreen narratives. If they wanted to, the filmmakers could easily create their own brand new backstory for how Bumblebee lost his voice that completely ignores the Movie Prequel comics, so long as it wouldn't conflict with what we've seen in the first four films.
I don't think its the case of they looking at the comics and willingfully decide to ignore them.Its more like a lack of communication between Hasbro and the movie team.I'm not even sure they aware of these stories that bridge the gaps between films.Hasbro and its representatives could had the stance,where they wanted these stories of comics and the films to connect more into a single storyline.They were okay with the movie team working on one thing and IDW comics developing their own ideas,hence,what happened so far.
Which is why,I'm excited for the news of the next movies.They seem to be doing exactly that we're talking here for the future,taking their time between films in order to create more connected stories and a bigger universe.
Posted by Va'al on January 9th, 2017 @ 2:37am CST
Since 2015, Oscar-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsman has become a big name in the world of cinematic universe franchises. In collaboration with Paramount Pictures, he not only created a braintrust that would help formulate the future of the Transformers series, but also went on to do the same thing with Hasbro and brands like G.I. Joe and ROM: Space Knight. We haven't seen an actual product from this process just yet, as none of the developing projects have made it to release -- but the methodology is continuing to spread, as the same approach that's going into the construction of the recently-announced Extreme Cinematic Universe.
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[Liefeld:] So I kind of was thinking, 'I'm going to go to this meeting and maybe I'll get a good look at some Dark Tower stuff,' and what ended up happening is he goes, 'I want to hand you this giant black leather-bound equivalent of a phone book,' and it said, "The Transformers Bible." This thing is awesome and Akiva goes, 'I just want you to know, there's only eight of these in existence. Michael Bay has one, I have one, the head of Paramount has one, and the five other people involved have them.' So I flipped through it, and it's every treatment, outlines, screenplay, for the lineup of Transformer films that they have planned, that he was a showrunner for...
So he said to me, he said, 'It's pretty cool, right? I'm like, 'Yeah!' He's like, 'I ran this room; this is what we came up with. This is what I did on behalf of Paramount.' He goes, 'In a couple months, I'm going to go run the Hasbro room, and we're going to do the same thing for ROM, Micronauts, G.I. Joe. We're going to put together this Hasbro Cinematic Universe, and then he said, I would like to do yours next. And I said, 'Uhhhhhh, Okay, WOW!'
Posted by JazZeke on January 9th, 2017 @ 10:01am CST
Posted by Munkky on January 9th, 2017 @ 12:18pm CST
Posted by Burn on January 9th, 2017 @ 2:19pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 9th, 2017 @ 11:31pm CST
Burn wrote:This should have been titled "Akiva Goldsman acknowledges the awesomeness that is Rob Liefeld"
Posted by Burn on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:42am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:51am CST
It wasn't pointless. That gif means "'90s Kid approves". '90s Kid is a character on Atop the Fourth Wall who LOVES Rob Liefeld's work. Your calling Liefeld awesome is something he'd agree with, therefore he approves your post as a most righteous one.Burn wrote:Actually an 80's kid. Thank you for your incredibly pointless post.
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 18th, 2017 @ 9:03am CDT
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/transfo ... 19083?mt=8
I read some of it, but not all. Apparently there are some inconsistencies between the history that's presented in the app, and what's actually happened in the movies.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 18th, 2017 @ 1:14pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:An app went live yesterday, showing new pictures of TLK, and even giving the history of the Transformers from the beginning of time. There's some crazy stuff in here that potentially hints at the direction the movies are going to go in after TLK.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/transfo ... 19083?mt=8
I read some of it, but not all. Apparently there are some inconsistencies between the history that's presented in the app, and what's actually happened in the movies.
Hey Sly, is there anyway you can copy some of the text and post it? I can news if you give me some text!
Posted by Sabrblade on March 18th, 2017 @ 10:02pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 18th, 2017 @ 10:03pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Judging from just those screenshots, the Lore looks like it might be mostly but not precisely Aligned-based.
Do you mind posting screenshots for a news article?
Posted by Sabrblade on March 18th, 2017 @ 10:06pm CDT
I'm just looking at the sample pics on the iTunes page Sly linked to.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Judging from just those screenshots, the Lore looks like it might be mostly but not precisely Aligned-based.
Do you mind posting screenshots for a news article?
Do you mean that you can't see the page when you click it?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 18th, 2017 @ 10:10pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I'm just looking at the sample pics on the iTunes page Sly linked to.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Judging from just those screenshots, the Lore looks like it might be mostly but not precisely Aligned-based.
Do you mind posting screenshots for a news article?
Do you mean that you can't see the page when you click it?
I can, but I thought there was more and what you were seeing was actually in the app
Posted by Sabrblade on March 18th, 2017 @ 10:12pm CDT
Interestingly enough, some of the pics on that page change to different ones when you switch looking at the iPhone screenshots to the iPad ones.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm just looking at the sample pics on the iTunes page Sly linked to.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Judging from just those screenshots, the Lore looks like it might be mostly but not precisely Aligned-based.
Do you mind posting screenshots for a news article?
Do you mean that you can't see the page when you click it?
I can, but I thought there was more and what you were seeing was actually in the app
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 4th, 2017 @ 8:08pm CDT
Apparently, according to an article published by Movie Web the Transformers live action universe is set to keep trucking along for years to come. There are currently 14 stories that are currently in the works, though it is extremely unlikely all 14 will come to fruition. We already know that the Bumblebee movie is set to come out next year and Transformers 6 is set to come out in 2019, so right there are 2 of the 14 covered. We'll need to keep an eye on this story as it develops.
You can read the whole article by following the link above and catch a snippet below.
Paramount has more than a dozen various Transformers movies outlined, courtesy of a writer's room that was assembled in 2015. The announcement was made by Michael Bay during an event for Transformers: The Last Knight, which was held recently at London's Cineworld IMAX on Leicester Square. The director, who was reportedly looking pretty casual and wearing a Boba Fett shirt, showed off a bunch of footage from the upcoming Transformers movie and decided to break the news that they can expect a whole lot more from the franchise in the future.
Posted by JazZeke on April 4th, 2017 @ 8:14pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on April 4th, 2017 @ 8:44pm CDT
JazZeke wrote:
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Posted by Seibertron on April 5th, 2017 @ 1:24am CDT
Here's what Michael Bay said (as fast as I could write these notes down at both events):
A couple of years ago we had a writer's room with 14 writers. We locked them up in a room for about a month and they came up with 14 different stories of where this franchise could go in the future. They came up with a wonderful mythology.
No where in what Michael Bay said did he make statements that Paramount has 14 movies planned or anything of that sort. He said 14 writers came up with 14 different ideas of where this franchise could go in the future. He said they came up with a wonderful mythology. I interpreted that as "here's 14 goals we could go after" or "here's 14 plot points we could tackle" and that those 14 plot points collectively became the mythology to which Michael Bay referred. Does it mean there are 14 movies planned? Most likely not. Did Michael Bay say anything about 14 movies being planned? Not at all. 14 different stories of where this franchise could go in the future. That's all he said. Read into that what you will. But what Movie Web is reporting is inaccurate because that's a whole boatload of assumptions from things that were not said.
I'll tackle of some of the differences between the footage we were shown at the Super fan Event two weeks ago versus the footage shown on April 4th. There were surprisingly many differences, different scenes, scenes that were absent, and more will be some of what I address tomorrow.
Posted by Deadput on April 5th, 2017 @ 1:32am CDT
It was 14 scripts and while unstated it sounds like one of them or a combination of a few of them became The Last Knight.
But who knows maybe parts of the other scripts will become parts of a future movie or two I mean the Bumblebee movie is supposed to come out next year.
Posted by ScottyP on April 5th, 2017 @ 7:53am CDT
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Posted by o.supreme on April 5th, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2017 @ 12:57pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I agree its agonizing how news is reported inaccurately, but apparently screen junkies is doing some sort of live event scheduled for 2:45pm (EST) 10:45am (PST) in just under 3 minuets based on this information...what the reason is for the "live" report...I have no idea.
They should know better, one of our very own staff members is also on their team.
Posted by Seibertron on April 5th, 2017 @ 1:00pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:I agree its agonizing how news is reported inaccurately, but apparently screen junkies is doing some sort of live event scheduled for 2:45pm (EST) 10:45am (PST) in just under 3 minuets based on this information...what the reason is for the "live" report...I have no idea.
They should know better, one of our very own staff members is also on their team.
Who?