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Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW

Transformers News: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW

Tuesday, December 5th, 2017 2:14PM CST

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o.supreme wrote:
Bronzewolf in review 4 wrote:That's right! Somehow we're already half way through the second Machinima Transformers series,


Hate to burst your bubble there Bronzewolf, but there are 10 episodes to this series, your pain is going to have to endure a little longer, were not quite half way there yet.

...what?

westjames/notirish. wrote:There are 11 episodes... 4 is not the halfway point, 5 is.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5. Let's get it over with.

We open again on the Metroplex/Trypticon fight, as the giant robot Kaiju charges the City Titan. Windblade checks in on the fighting as Hot Rod arrives and we get something new in the series. Something completely revolutionary...
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Diagonal split frames!

The dialogue in this scene is especially badly paced. It doesn't flow like a normal conversation, and it's so apparent you can't ignore it. Hot Rod and Windblade join the battle, and Hot Rod actually gets a couple cool shots here that flow really nicely thanks to some pretty good animation!
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Like this! This was awesome! I know, I didn't expect it from this series either.

Hot Rod realizes the spirit of Starscream is within Trypticon as he and Windblade try to assist Metroplex. The city robot is taken down eventually by Trypticon, however, and Trypticon finishes him off with the most ridiculous scene in the series.
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Hey, guys? Yeah, Godzilla Vs. Gigan called. They want their campiness back.

It appears that Metroplex is defeated as Emissary ejects himself from the Titan's body. As he runs from the battle, Trypticon spots him and eats him, absorbing his Laserblast power. Hot Rod realizes that he must free Emissary as the laser beams fired by the Combiners in the previous episode finally arrive at their target and start falling from the sky. It doesn't phase Trypticon, as he continues to terrorize the city.
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Yep, singlehandedly destroying the city more than Trypicon and Metroplex combined. Good job, guys.

We cut away from the action for a moment to a tank entering the Mistress of Flame's prayer chamber. It's revealed to be Megatron, who discovers the Mistress' body on the floor. She uses the last of the power in her spark to ask him if the combiners were successful in reactivating Fortress Maximus. He says he doesn't know anything about that. She tells him Overlord has returned, and dies.
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Finally, the sarcasm of Megatron has come to save us all.

Back in the battle, Hot Rod makes it inside of Trypticon to save Emissary, and launches back out through Trypticon's eye. He throws Emissary to Windblade as Trypticon bats him across the city. Windblade rushes to his aid and promises she'll send Ratchet to help him.
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Ratchet?? Why can't he be in the show? But...but..

She transforms and takes Emissary away, mentioning that they haven't been properly introduced. Emissary already knows who she is, however, as she's well known amongst the Titan Masters. Windblade laughs and says that she's "Quite the fan favorite".

Yeah.
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HAHAHA HASBRO YOU'RE VERY FUNNY WE GET IT

Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.
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Can someone put Disco music over this? Please?

Eventually Hot Rod tries to shoot Overlord, but yet again it does nothing. Overlord then says he has something for Hot Rod, bestowing upon him what appears to be an evil matrix, turning him into what is assumed to be Rodimus Unicronus, although we never see that. It's certainly a twist that I didn't see coming, and is actually pretty intriguing. With that, episode 5 is over.

It's certainly one of the more action-packed, interesting episodes out of the lot so far, but I'm not certain that makes it good. There are severe issues with the pacing of the dialogue, but we've come to expect that by now. There are times when Windblade and Hot Rod are talking where you can tell the two voice overs were recorded at separate times, and there's a lot of emotional disconnect because of it. The animation at times, though, is actually really good. It shows how much of an improvement it's had over the previous series. The mouth movements are tighter, closer to the words actually being spoken, and characters are far less jerky. It's so much better that Combiner Wars, and the series is so much more enjoyable because of it.

Well, that's episode 5! Wanna watch it for yourself? You can find it over on Go90. Please share your thoughts below in the Energon Pub forums! Do you agree with me? Do you disagree? I want to hear it! Thanks for reading, and I'll see you all next week!
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Mmm, yeah. Now THAT'S finger-licking good.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925283)
Posted by Burn on December 5th, 2017 @ 2:15pm CST
This was easily the worst episode yet.

The dialogue between Hot Rod and Windblade was atrocious. Terrible writing, probably made worse by that stupid face mask of Hot Rods.

A bunch of lasers fired by Fortress Maximus can't stop Trypticon. But Hot Rod is able to blast a hole into his side with his little hand gun. Yeah, okay, whatever.

The only thing I did enjoy was the background music. They've nailed the 80's style well.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925291)
Posted by o.supreme on December 5th, 2017 @ 2:29pm CST
Bronzewolf wrote: Image
Hey, guys? Yeah, Godzilla Vs. Gigan Megalon called. They want their campiness back.


fix'd that for ya ;) . But truly, Godzilla did a goofy dive very similar to this in Godzilla X Megaguirus (2000)

Oh yeah, and I forgot the moment when Hot Rod breaks out of Trypticon's eye (callback to TFTM), we see glass shatter, but the eye stays in tact...wait...what???
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925292)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 5th, 2017 @ 2:33pm CST
o.supreme wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote: Image
Hey, guys? Yeah, Godzilla Vs. Gigan Megalon called. They want their campiness back.


fix'd that for ya ;) . But truly, Godzilla did a goofy dive very similar to this in Godzilla X Megaguirus (2000)


I just finished Megalon! Hilariously campy.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925296)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on December 5th, 2017 @ 2:47pm CST
So is the sole purpose of Hot Rod's face mask, they don't have to match lip flaps to sound?
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925312)
Posted by Etseterrestrial on December 5th, 2017 @ 4:06pm CST
The series has been a big improvement over CW, but I still can't get over the terrible lip sync and "conversations" being made between the characters.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925315)
Posted by karyuudo on December 5th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CST
I'm just amazed at how bad the writing and voice direction is for Hot Rod. I'm really shocked that we're listening to Judd Nelson, the same guy who's done Hot Rod in TFTM and TF Animated... and it's just horrendous. It's like he's tired / bored. :shock:
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925322)
Posted by King Kuuga on December 5th, 2017 @ 5:23pm CST
karyuudo wrote:I'm just amazed at how bad the writing and voice direction is for Hot Rod. I'm really shocked that we're listening to Judd Nelson, the same guy who's done Hot Rod in TFTM and TF Animated... and it's just horrendous. It's like he's tired / bored. :shock:

Exactly! He sounds so bored, Cullen sounded pretty lifeless, JDF isn't being allowed to emote... Perceptor is the only one who is fully expressive, although I'll grant Windblade and Overlord have some expression. The voice direction is just awful, and the awkward pauses in conversations aren't helping.

It's like this show is getting better and worse at the same time.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925337)
Posted by notsoalex on December 5th, 2017 @ 7:39pm CST
Oh good, I wasn't the only one who was reminded of Food Fight. Wait no, that's a bad thing!
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925346)
Posted by Nexus Knight on December 5th, 2017 @ 9:05pm CST
This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


:BANG_HEAD: I hate you. I forgot that existed. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.

Kidding, or course. Keep up the good work!
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925377)
Posted by Noideaforaname on December 6th, 2017 @ 8:01am CST
Haha, Food Fight. I was totally expecting Overlord to just randomly pirouette mid-strut.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925378)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 6th, 2017 @ 8:02am CST
Noideaforaname wrote:Haha, Food Fight. I was totally expecting Overlord to just randomly pirouette mid-strut.
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Charlie Sheen is best Overlord.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925396)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on December 6th, 2017 @ 9:38am CST
Nexus Knight wrote:This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


:BANG_HEAD: I hate you. I forgot that existed. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.

Kidding, or course. Keep up the good work!


Okay, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now... What is Food Fight?
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925400)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 6th, 2017 @ 9:43am CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


:BANG_HEAD: I hate you. I forgot that existed. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.

Kidding, or course. Keep up the good work!


Okay, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now... What is Food Fight?


Oh, young padawan. You have much to learn.



I recommend reading or watching something about the history of this film. This cost $65 Million to make, was delayed for over a decade, and the finished cut was stolen, so they had to redo everything over again.

I also recommend one of these three reviews. Extremely funny, and the movie really needs to be seen to be believed.


Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925412)
Posted by Sunstar on December 6th, 2017 @ 10:31am CST
I just wish the tumbler version of it was not so fraggin cut off. It feels like I am missing stuff. But for what it is, its okay. Although it sounds like they are talking into coffee tins.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925417)
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2017 @ 10:58am CST
So I may be projecting out a bit but... The only way to own CW right now is as a bonus feature on the Target exclusive release of the Blu Ray of TF:TLK. I was thinking Hasbro might do the same for TR. However that becomes problematic in that the Bumblebee Movie isn't scheduled in theaters until 12/21/18, making for a Spring 2019 home media release. If we assume the PotP animated series will be late 2018 or early 2019 (now that I think about it...probably early 2019 by their schedule)...that means that it's end will probably coordinate near the release of the Bumblebee Movie on home media. Maybe it will include both series as bonus features? Or maybe...Hasbro will gives us one super craptacular special Blu Ray set with all 3 series included in its own release!?!... :-?
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925424)
Posted by Sunstar on December 6th, 2017 @ 12:07pm CST
I hope for a super craptacular Blueray general release. It annoys the slag out of me I cannot find it anywhere, and the tumbler site cuts it off.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925427)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on December 6th, 2017 @ 12:35pm CST
Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


:BANG_HEAD: I hate you. I forgot that existed. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.

Kidding, or course. Keep up the good work!


Okay, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now... What is Food Fight?


Oh, young padawan. You have much to learn.



I recommend reading or watching something about the history of this film. This cost $65 Million to make, was delayed for over a decade, and the finished cut was stolen, so they had to redo everything over again.

I also recommend one of these three reviews. Extremely funny, and the movie really needs to be seen to be believed.





Where does one find this film to watch? I don't see it available on Amazon.
Sorry to be a pain, I feel the need to watch this now.
Saddly, far more then I feel the need to read the IDW comics.

Never mind, I just found it. I left it saw two words first time. Good news, its apparently available for free with Prime. Yay
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925428)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 6th, 2017 @ 12:37pm CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


:BANG_HEAD: I hate you. I forgot that existed. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.

Kidding, or course. Keep up the good work!


Okay, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now... What is Food Fight?


Oh, young padawan. You have much to learn.



I recommend reading or watching something about the history of this film. This cost $65 Million to make, was delayed for over a decade, and the finished cut was stolen, so they had to redo everything over again.

I also recommend one of these three reviews. Extremely funny, and the movie really needs to be seen to be believed.





Where does one find this film to watch? I don't see it available on Amazon.
Sorry to be a pain, I feel the need to watch this now.
Saddly, far more then I feel the need to read the IDW comics.


On YouTube! Just search Food fight Full Movie!
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925429)
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CST
Free on Amazon Prime:

https://www.amazon.com/Foodfight-Charli ... odfight%21?tag=seibertron07-20&
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925430)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 6th, 2017 @ 12:41pm CST
(Small nudge back on topic :D )
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925484)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2017 @ 8:31pm CST
Sunstar wrote:I just wish the tumbler version of it was not so fraggin cut off. It feels like I am missing stuff. But for what it is, its okay. Although it sounds like they are talking into coffee tins.
Sunstar wrote:I hope for a super craptacular Blueray general release. It annoys the slag out of me I cannot find it anywhere, and the tumbler site cuts it off.
You could just watch it on KimCartoon instead of Tumblr's disappointing-for-you version.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1925954)
Posted by ArmadaPrime on December 9th, 2017 @ 11:21am CST
Sunstar wrote: Although it sounds like they are talking into coffee tins.

So glad I'm not alone in being super bugged by this. I think it's part of what messes up the voice work (along with the writing)- I get the distinct feeling that the original recordings are probably way more genuine and emotive. The Mistress of Flame's death really took the cake on that front, the 'robotic' effect was so heavy that any pain or emotion in her voice was totally lost, just "who killed you?" "Oh it was overlord".
Granted some voices still shine through (though even megs wasn't quite as on form this episode imo) so it can't be the whole problem, but still
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926246)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 11th, 2017 @ 11:44pm CST
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926253)
Posted by Madeus Prime on December 12th, 2017 @ 12:59am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Here's episode 6 - https://www.go90.com/videos/9CFURVWNuQ6

Honestly, Megatron's sarcasm is the highlight of this series
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926266)
Posted by King Kuuga on December 12th, 2017 @ 7:03am CST
This episode gave us more combiner fighting than all of Combiner Wars and I'm not sure how I feel about that. Also, another combiner of combiners, but this time not an amorphous blob. So that's a plus.

Megatron is truly the highlight of this series.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926277)
Posted by o.supreme on December 12th, 2017 @ 9:37am CST
Random thoughts-before the title card, did Megatron just flip Devastator on his ass :roll: :lol: -The most PC thing I can say is...I don't like Menasor's dialogue. The chorus of primes sound like the Zoanoids from The Guyver English dub. Oh no...Megatron tossing Devastator like a sack of potatoes...dear lord this has gone off the rails.
Emissary hooking up Windblade to an apparatus he knows she cant brake free from...DISCONNECT! DISCONNECT! :lol: Sorry.... This is all just not good. Reaching CW levels of bad again. But even CW had its ups and downs as far as individual episodes. I'm hoping next week will be better.

Also I don't think the combiners are merging into a single combiner, they just kind of disappeared to go fight Trypticon presumably (unless I missed something?). If however next episode we get a "combiner of combiners" somebody needs to fan mode that quickly. Of course a 5th combiner would make it much easier. Have Dev as the torso, and 4 "5 member" combiners as limbs. Something 11 year old me (and my 11 year old son now) would be totally amazed by. ;)
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926279)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 12th, 2017 @ 10:01am CST
"Why didn't you show us this before?"

Emissary, you only JUST arrived there with Windblade! How could you have possibly known what was going on between Megatron and the combiners before you got there? That line should have been said by one of the combiners, not you!
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926319)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 12th, 2017 @ 3:45pm CST
Another Tuesday, another episode of Machinima's Titans Return animated series! We're on to Episode 6 now, which, in complete honesty, is the worst one yet. But let's delve into the new episode and figure out exactly why! Here's Titans Return Episode 6!

We open with a (pretty cool?) shot of Trypticon, who's still raging through the city completely unopposed now with the death of Metroplex in the previous episode. This shot pans out to reveal Optimus Prime returning to the city, driving into the Basilica to meet Perceptor. We very quickly cut to the Combiners back at Fortress Maximus. They've just watched their laser beams disappear in the distance, headed toward "Metroplex City". The redundancy does not escape me. The combiners discuss their next plan, and have I mentioned that I hate Menasor's voice? Yeah, I hate Menasor's voice.
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Megatron tells them that Metroplex City is a total loss, and the combiners respond by trying to beat the daylights out of him, calling him a "Betrayer" and a "Vile Traitor", etc. Didn't he help you just a little bit ago? You know, when Starscream took over your bodies? He helped rescue you! All the combiners are just so randomly hostile, it looks really strange. Megatron explains the Mistress of Flame has died, which just aggravates the Combiners more, as they believe he was the one who killed her.

Back at the Basilica, Perceptor and Optimus learn the same macabre fact, stumbling upon the Mistress' body in the Prayer chamber. They don't know who the killer was, as Perceptor gains no new evidence from studying her wounds. They leave her body in the prayer chamber, turning their attention to the more pressing matter of the Titan Dinosaur stomping though the city. They return to the basilica's controls. The dialogue here is clunky, again, as we've come to expect, but it just goes to show that most of the time errors like this aren't the voice actor's fault. A lot of times it's the direction they're given or the editing the tracks receive in post. You can have big celebrities like Wil Wheaton and voice acting legends like Peter Cullen and still have your dialogue be awkward.

Anyway, they finally get the Basilica's defenses up, and they attempt to slow Trypticon down.
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This is just straight up Godzilla at this point.

They return to the chamber of Primes, where Hot Rod had given up the Matrix of Leadership, and we get more scenes with the Chorus of Primes. Yay.
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"Asdkfhdlkierjml, jsdkfhguinegnkjfjg, Optimus Prime."

Yes, the Chorus of Primes returns to the series, just as indecipherable and completely non-understandable as the last time. Prime reclaims the Matrix from the chamber, once again truly becoming Optimus Prime.

The Combiners are still fighting with Megatron when Windblade and Emissary come in to save him, breaking up the fight. Brace yourselves, it gets really corny.
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"What the Headlight are you Junkpiles doing?" Really? Really? You just said damn in the last episode, I don't think Hell is really off limits.

They demand to know who really killed the Mistress, and Megatron pulls up literally just footage from the last episode. Emissary questions why he didn't just show them this footage before, and while he definitely has a point, he and Windblade just arrived seconds ago. There is no way he knew what was happening.
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Oh, look, Megatron downloaded Go90!

Victorion uses the Enigma of Combination, uniting the combiners again. They disappear, traveling to the city to help stop Trypticon. Then, for whatever reason. Windblade is hooked up to Fort Max. There is nothing mentioned about this leading up to it, if I remember correctly. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this plan comes out of nowhere! She links with Fortress Maximus, and is appears something has gone wrong. Emissary yells for her to disconnect, but she doesn't hear him. On that cliffhanger, the Episode ends.
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Oh God, she's regenerating! Who's going to be the next Doctor Windblade?!?

This episode really feels boring and drawn out. It made 11 minutes really feel like 20, and really started to look like a bad Godzilla/Kaiju overdub. Between the mostly-inaccurate mouth movements, bad timing and pacing, and, you know, the actual Kaiju. Don't get me wrong, it is still leagues better that Combiner Wars, but it still leaves much to be desired.

Thanks for reading my review of Episode 6. If you want to watch it yourself, you can find it over on Go90. Do you agree with me? Am I completely off base? Please let me know and share your thoughts down below! I'll see you next Tuesday with the release of episode 7!
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926340)
Posted by Randomhero on December 12th, 2017 @ 6:31pm CST
I think no matter how improved this series is from Combiner Wars it’s still just gonna get sh$& on by people.

I liked it. It felt like the start of act 2 with some action and set up to further the plot.


I had a friend come over this weekend and we watched Combiner Wars which we agreed wasn’t great and we binged Titans Return and he loved it. He’s a casual fan. He doesn’t live in tf sites, keep up to date on everything and only collects stuff that appeals to him. He didn’t even know a new cartoon was happening outside of RID. He enjoyed it. Said it’s fun.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926357)
Posted by YoungPrime on December 12th, 2017 @ 9:22pm CST
I'm not watching any of this!

Just waiting for Geewun Redone's sequel.


And if that doesn't happen then neither did this 2nd season...
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926361)
Posted by Randomhero on December 12th, 2017 @ 9:48pm CST
Point proven
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926366)
Posted by Burn on December 12th, 2017 @ 11:06pm CST
Randomhero wrote:I think no matter how improved this series is from Combiner Wars it’s still just gonna get sh$& on by people.

Because people suddenly can't dislike things?

Honestly dude, you've been on this site long enough to know better!

This episode was ... ahhh why bother with it? A lot of it made no sense. Especially Victorions desire to avenge Mistress of Flame, completely disregarding THE IMPENDING THREAT THAT IS TRYPTICON! You know, the impending threat THAT YOU WERE JUST TRYING TO STOP.

ugh ... this is bad fan wank.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926368)
Posted by ebonyleopard on December 12th, 2017 @ 11:32pm CST
I'm just going to say, everything about and with Megatron is the best thing about both series. I could watch a show just about him and I've fallen in love with this new voice actor and his take on him.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926369)
Posted by ebonyleopard on December 12th, 2017 @ 11:34pm CST
Randomhero wrote:I think no matter how improved this series is from Combiner Wars it’s still just gonna get sh$& on by people.

I liked it. It felt like the start of act 2 with some action and set up to further the plot.


I had a friend come over this weekend and we watched Combiner Wars which we agreed wasn’t great and we binged Titans Return and he loved it. He’s a casual fan. He doesn’t live in tf sites, keep up to date on everything and only collects stuff that appeals to him. He didn’t even know a new cartoon was happening outside of RID. He enjoyed it. Said it’s fun.


Nits gonna pick.

I can only complain so much about something I'm ultimately watching for free and know that over all is helping the franchise with notoriety and toy sales. So, more power to them. But then I've never been one who complained that much about any of the TF series. They are what they are. Could it be better? Sure, but not everything is TMNT, Voltron Legendary Defender, or the Legend of Kora.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926370)
Posted by Burn on December 12th, 2017 @ 11:49pm CST
How does it help toy sales though when the toy line is virtually finished?
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Posted by Sabrblade on December 13th, 2017 @ 12:30am CST
Is there such a thing as an antithesis to "beating a dead horse"? Cuz saying how Megatron is the best thing about this show is pretty much that. We all know that he's great, that he's the one really good thing to come out of this show and its predecessor, but honestly that still doesn't speak much about the whole show itself since pretty much everything else that isn't Megatron (or, debatably, Foghorn Overlord), is still some degree of mediocre.

Sure, Titans Return isn't as mind-bogglingly bad as Combiner Wars turned out to be, but that's like saying how Suicide Squad wasn't as appallingly bad as Batman v. Superman was even though SS itself still wasn't that good in its own right.

Megatron is to CW and TR like what Wonder Woman (the character) was to BvS: One shining spot in sea of mediocrity (or more specifically in TR's case, a sea of indifferent, shrugworthy quality).
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926381)
Posted by Bounti76 on December 13th, 2017 @ 4:25am CST
Ebonyleopard wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I think no matter how improved this series is from Combiner Wars it’s still just gonna get sh$& on by people.

I liked it. It felt like the start of act 2 with some action and set up to further the plot.


I had a friend come over this weekend and we watched Combiner Wars which we agreed wasn’t great and we binged Titans Return and he loved it. He’s a casual fan. He doesn’t live in tf sites, keep up to date on everything and only collects stuff that appeals to him. He didn’t even know a new cartoon was happening outside of RID. He enjoyed it. Said it’s fun.


Nits gonna pick.

I can only complain so much about something I'm ultimately watching for free and know that over all is helping the franchise with notoriety and toy sales. So, more power to them. But then I've never been one who complained that much about any of the TF series. They are what they are. Could it be better? Sure, but not everything is TMNT, Voltron Legendary Defender, or the Legend of Kora.


Helping the franchise with toy sales? Titans Return as a toyline is over. Sure, there are still some Wave 6 figures still hanging out on shelves, but of them, only Hot Rod is in the series. Overlord barely showed up at retail, and Wave 5 (with Windblade) had such spotty distribution that the easiest way to get it was to order online.

Much like the Combiner Wars cartoon before it, Titans Return is showing up after the toyline has effectively ended at retail. Which means the Power of the Primes cartoon should be showing up sometime in 2019.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926384)
Posted by Bounti76 on December 13th, 2017 @ 4:28am CST
To the review at hand......I don't even want to watch this episode. Just reading the summary made me cringe so bad that I don't want to subject myself to it. (Megatron picking up and tossing DEVASTATOR??)
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926391)
Posted by King Kuuga on December 13th, 2017 @ 6:24am CST
Bounti76 wrote:To the review at hand......I don't even want to watch this episode. Just reading the summary made me cringe so bad that I don't want to subject myself to it. (Megatron picking up and tossing DEVASTATOR??)

Yeah that was.... a thing.
Megatron throwing Devastator.PNG


Also the combiners seem to actually be in scale with regular transformers in this episode, which ironically makes them seem small. Megatron easily comes up to Menasor's waist, much like the CW leader figure to the CW Menasor toy. Instead of being "enlarged" when they combine like in most fiction, the combiners are presented as about the sum of their parts.
Megatron Menasor scale.PNG
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926400)
Posted by YoungPrime on December 13th, 2017 @ 7:46am CST
Randomhero wrote:I think no matter how improved this series is from Combiner Wars it’s still just gonna get sh$& on by people.


Too bad I haven't heard much on actual improvement....

IDW's early ongoing books were proof that Hasbro can do wonders with TF lore if put in the hands of someone who gives a shirt. Instead they gave us more Bay crap and now a 2nd season of this!

Then they wonder why Marvel's movies and DC animated direct to video films are running circles around then these days!

It's pathetic!

And FYI the time spent watching last season was in no ways what I'd call "free".
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926419)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 13th, 2017 @ 10:40am CST
King Kuuga wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:To the review at hand......I don't even want to watch this episode. Just reading the summary made me cringe so bad that I don't want to subject myself to it. (Megatron picking up and tossing DEVASTATOR??)

Yeah that was.... a thing.
Megatron throwing Devastator.PNG


YES.
I wanted to talk about this in the review, but I was already up to 5-6 paragraphs not even half way through the episode, so I cut it. So ridiculous, though.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926441)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on December 13th, 2017 @ 12:20pm CST
I'm actually enjoying this show. I laugh at it all the time, even if you're not meant too. It's just so bad it's hilarious to watch.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926698)
Posted by notsoalex on December 14th, 2017 @ 3:46pm CST
You could turn on subtitles so you could understand the Chorus of the Primes.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926701)
Posted by Windsweeper on December 14th, 2017 @ 4:22pm CST
Overall I am enjoying the series though much as I like Megatron, he's not as much fun in this.

I am enjoying Judd Nelson back as Hot Rod though I wish they'd get rid of the stupid face plate.

Menasor's voice is the most annoying thing I've heard since Energon Ironhide and Beast Wars Rattrap. He's always been my favourite Con Combiner and ignored for years by the franchise. We finally get him in the spotlight and they give him that awful voice.

What was the casting director thinking? Starscream and Overlord aren't great but no where near as bad as Menasor.

I will admit Combiner Wars is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Every Transformer series is flawed. After 30 years, I've learned to focus on the positives of each.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926714)
Posted by partholon on December 14th, 2017 @ 5:41pm CST
i dont get the problem with menasors voice. its not like he says that much anyway and ive heard ALOT worse in this franchises past. i suppose we should be happy hes not portrayed as a psychotic mess like his profile is meant to be. at least this way he's contributing.

the one voice ive a prob with is computron TBH. I keep missing half what he says. he's not chorus of primes bad, but not far off it.

oddly no prob with megs tossing devastator as he IS meant to be a badass. so as long as it something only he or a prime/grimlock type can do im ok with it.

TBH ive MORE of a problem that he doesnt seem to remember his ex leader. leastways you'd get no idea from how they interact. there should be at least some form if "oh its the old boss" reaction or something . hell in this continuity alone the individual constructicons used to hang out with him FFS as we saw in the arena fights in Combiner Wars. so there really should be more of a loyality/conflict there from the big dev.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1926990)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 16th, 2017 @ 12:44pm CST
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Find the full video down below, and continue the discussion in the Energon Pub forums! Remember to keep your optics and audio sensors tuned to Seibertron.com for all the latest Transformers news!


Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1927018)
Posted by padfoo on December 16th, 2017 @ 4:28pm CST
:?: Devastator is a bit small in that scale slide isn't he?
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1927072)
Posted by King Kuuga on December 17th, 2017 @ 3:32am CST
padfoo wrote::?: Devastator is a bit small in that scale slide isn't he?

Well we don't really know how any of them stack up to Metroplex but in this show, Devy is about the same size as the other combiners, roughly twice as tall as Megatron, and let's assume Overlord is roughly the same size as Megatron too. So Devy is scaled right, and the giant Victorion is the combiner of combiners they all formed in this last episode.
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1927264)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 18th, 2017 @ 11:39pm CST
Here is episode 7 - https://www.go90.com/videos/37rr2B0WBM6

Titled "Run For Our Lives"

That does not bode well. :-s
Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5 REVIEW (1927272)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2017 @ 1:07am CST
Oh man, where do I even begin with this episode?

I must confess, that when the super-combiner Victorion appeared in front of Trypticon at this episode's start, I got the faintest, briefest, tiniest bit of excited that the obviously forthcoming fight between Vicky and Tryppy might possibly be something like the fight between Optimus Supreme and Unicron in the Energon cartoon, which was arguably the best and coolest part of that show. But, alas, what we got instead not only quick to kill any and all traces of that hint of excitement in me, but also served to illustrate the notion that Victorion in this episode is, both figuratively and literally, the biggest idiot this side of the known galaxy. And considering that her opponent right next to her was Trypticon of all people, that's saying something.

And it didn't hit me until after the previous episode came and went, but last episode's having Optimus get the Matrix back could have been the perfect opportunity for this episode to advertise one more toy in the Titans Return toyline (even if it would be so late in the game at this point) by having Optimus upgrade into his Leader class Powermaster Optimus Prime toy body. Once again, this episode missed the mark on that by having Optimus keep his normal look (Guess it would have been too expensive to create a whole new Optimus CG model on top of the one they already had carried over from Combiner Wars).

The whole thing with Windblade and Emissary was just ridiculous. He keeps yelling at her to "DISENGAGE!", yet he's the one who's at the controls. He's the one who should have the power to free her. She's bound up by stuff that he set in motion last episode. She can't free herself, Emissary. It's all your doing!

And once again, we're only fed table scraps of what it means to be a Cityspeaker in this show, as though it's already expected of the audience to fully understand what that term means, not accounting for the very real possibility that there may be a good portion of this show's audience that hasn't read/doesn't read the IDW comics (and based on evidence I've seen from others' reactions, that is very true).

And when Optimus gave the Matrix to Perceptor to keep safe, when he was thinking that Optimus was trying to pass it onto him, did anyone else immediately think "Oh great, he's passing the Matrix onto Wesley Crusher! >:oP "? :P

And was anyone else really disappointed that Fort Max was formed, head and all, without Emissary needing to first attach himself to Cerebros, as though Emissary may be treated as a fully separate entity from Fort Max in this show?

At the very least, Michael Dorn sounded... "adequate" as Fort Max (honestly, anyone with a deep voice could play this role decently enough with this quality of writing/directing).

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