Leaked image of the back of the box of Studio Series 38 Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nope, not really feeling that new Voyager Prime. I get what they're going for with the shift to the more familiar, but that does result in backlash from those who were used to the original esthetic. The shift does apparetly work in a sense as the movie is a hit with the critics for once it seems, so yeah...

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:This Optimus and MP-44 should both have their molds melted down.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nope, not really feeling that new Voyager Prime. I get what they're going for with the shift to the more familiar, but that does result in backlash from those who were used to the original esthetic. The shift does apparetly work in a sense as the movie is a hit with the critics for once it seems, so yeah...

It's an obnoxious half-assed continuity-clashing move that puts Travis Knight in the same category of fan embodied by Shadow from the Insecticomics (albeit not that extreme).

Also, the professional movie critics are worthless brain-dead morons when it comes to Transformers. I haven't seen the movie myself, but I have no faith in their judgement after stupidity regarding the first movie.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Honestly, that new Studio Series Prime is a nope in a not good direction.

I have not liked the Cybertronian aesthetic since it was revealed, they should have smoothed it out some and made it a separate thing. The difference is too jarring compared to the movie look I have come to love.

Carn is right, the "G1" influence crept into the movie. While it may be a short bit, it still sucks to see them abandon the previous looks, especially since we have gotten many looks at Transformers without Earth modes. And it's now across the board: toys, comics, TV, and now starting to creep into the movie. Let the unique things stay unique. That would be like Prime or Cybertron suddenly shifting into G1 mode, it doesn't look right.

AS was said elsewhere, you can't miss G1 if it won't stop coming back and now taking over the entire industry.

and the G1 look is not good for many of these guys. It's the wrong type of greeble on the characters, and for some reason, a lot of the Cybertron guys have very large thighs and skinny arms and lower legs, it's not a good look. And this figure sadly seems to capture that look.

I really really really wish they would have made the Cybertron aesthetic something else and new instead of in this live action universe. They nailed Dropkick, Shatter, and Blitzwing, why couldn't you have stuck with that?

on a separate note, Jetfire looks good, I can't wait to see the combination with Prime!

Ironhidensh wrote:Second, frack me if I don't love the hell out of this new design.

What can I say, it hits all the right notes for me.

notirishman wrote:Earlier today, we put up two news articles on the instruction manual and robot mode image of new Studio Series 38 Voyager Class Optimus Prime, from the Bumblebee film. Following that, we have a leaked image of the back of the box of the said toy, thanks to 本-阿弗莱克- on baidu.

It shows us our first look on his alternate mode which, shock of shocks, is very inspired by the truck in the G1 cartoon. Of course, we also get to see the stock render for his robot mode, and his 35 step conversion. We also find out the figure comes with the "San Francisco Bridge" backdrop, whick liekly has little relevance to the film itself.

So does this make you more or less excited for the figure? Tell us in the Pub forums down below!

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Jesus H. Mary and Joseph Born in a Manger Read the Bible Christ, we just got a Leader Class PotP Optimus Prime that is Geewun, a Voyager CW Optimus Prime that was Geewun, a Voyager Class WFC: Siege Optimus that is HELLA Geewun, a probable new Leader Class Optimus that may or may not have a Geewun Trailer but is definitely Geewun even if it has a Galaxy Force chest, and now we’re getting a GEEWUN VOYAGER OPTIMUS PRIME! GOD’s sake, John Warden has his head shoved so far up GEEWUN OPTIMUS PRIME’S TAILPIPE. Goddamn.

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Jesus H. Mary and Joseph Born in a Manger Read the Bible Christ, we just got a Leader Class PotP Optimus Prime that is Geewun, a Voyager CW Optimus Prime that was Geewun, a Voyager Class WFC: Siege Optimus that is HELLA Geewun, a probable new Leader Class Optimus that may or may not have a Geewun Trailer but is definitely Geewun even if it has a Galaxy Force chest, and now we’re getting a GEEWUN VOYAGER OPTIMUS PRIME! GOD’s sake, John Warden has his head shoved so far up GEEWUN OPTIMUS PRIME’S TAILPIPE. Goddamn.

And if you want even more G1 Optimus Prime, you remember this is coming out next year too right?

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... box/42602/

Didnt we jut make this joke that very soon every single toy will be Optimus Prime.

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Jesus H. Mary and Joseph Born in a Manger Read the Bible Christ, we just got a Leader Class PotP Optimus Prime that is Geewun, a Voyager CW Optimus Prime that was Geewun, a Voyager Class WFC: Siege Optimus that is HELLA Geewun, a probable new Leader Class Optimus that may or may not have a Geewun Trailer but is definitely Geewun even if it has a Galaxy Force chest, and now we’re getting a GEEWUN VOYAGER OPTIMUS PRIME! GOD’s sake, John Warden has his head shoved so far up GEEWUN OPTIMUS PRIME’S TAILPIPE. Goddamn.

And if you want even more G1 Optimus Prime, you remember this is coming out next year too right?

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... box/42602/

Didnt we jut make this joke that very soon every single toy will be Optimus Prime.

hausjam wrote:Everyone who likes to call the transformers movies garbage films; you are garbage jerks. It's one thing to say you don't like a film. Even that you hated it. That's cool. No problem. But to call a movie garbage, a movie that many, many people thought was okay (even if they didn't love it) and that many, many people worked very hard to create, is to be a world class scumbag. You are saying we like garbage. And that's just an arrogant, horrible, sanctimonious thing to say. You are presuming you know what's best for everyone. You do not. And you never, ever will.

But since we are doing that, fine. This Optimus Prime, as designed for Bumblebee; is just a garbage design. It's a very hastily modeled Frankenstein. It takes the G1 incarnation, which was originally drawn in a simplified form (for obvious reasons) and adds a lot of exaggerated details that are out of place, and logistically ridiculous. (Truck windows on a Cybertronian was fine on a cartoon made for 8 year olds.) If you are a fan of this design, then you are a simpleton who has no sense of aesthetics and is easily placated by nostalgic nonsense.

And as for the toy, it looks every bit as cheap and clunky as its wave-mates. Will it feel as cheap? I don't know. But I am not Optimistic. If Hasbro wants to keep marketing overpriced kids toys to collectors, they should be eternally grateful to those of you who are indeed placated by nostalgic nonsense.

notirishman wrote:It shows us our first look on his alternate mode which, shock of shocks, is very inspired by the truck in the G1 cartoon. Of course, we also get to see the stock render for his robot mode, and his 35 step conversion. We also find out the figure comes with the "San Francisco Bridge" backdrop, whick liekly has little relevance to the film itself.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think the "Cybertronian" designs from the Bumblebee movie are erroneous trash that have no place in the movieverse and should not have been dignified with toys.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:In this case it's a double-whammy of John Warden AND Travis Knight.

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm still not seeing the siege retool, they may share a transformation scheme but that doesn't mean retool, otherwise does that mean G2 Smokejumper was retooled into Energon Starscream?

Now, I said it in the siege thread that Warden was G1 obsessed, but I assumed he was just in charge of the generations line, and that Studio Series was worked on by other people.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:@Deadput:
1. I agree that AoE sucked (for a lot of reasons.. Optimus shooting Attinger and the Dinobots wiping the floor with the KSI drones were the only really good parts), but TLK? Not so much. TLK after all ACTUALLY FOLLOWED UP ON THE QUESTION OF CYBERTRON'S FATE THAT DARK OF THE MOON LEFT HANGING.

2. Travis Knight is pissing all over the movieverse's established design conventions and backstory by shoving GEEWUNnery in where it. Has. No. Place. I love G1, but it is not the be-all end-all of everything good about Transformers and people should stop treating it like that. He is acting with total disrespect to the universe and source material he's been handed the reins of. The movieverse needs some fixing, but throwing out its established conventions and takes on the lore to shoehorn in drooling G1 worship isn't fixing. That's just making an exponentially bigger mess of an already thorny continuity. I wouldn't call that putting love into it. Effort, maybe, but effort by itself doesn't mean jack sh*t. Putting effort into something doesn't stop it from being bad or disrespectful. I'm angry because a Transformers universe I'm invested in is in new hands that don't really seem to care for it and are in new hands that seem to be uncaringly mangling it. So I'll insult Travis Knight all I smegging like.

3. What people mean by "G1 reboots" is reboots that are based on the aesthetics and characterizations of G1 and generally with new alt-universe versions of the G1 characters

4. The reason it's doing well with critics isn't because of Knight's effort, it's just because his name isn't marked by critics for an automatic distortedly jaundiced viewing.

5. If they wanted a new story they should have MADE A NEW SMEGGING STORY instead of hijacking and warping an established one.

SillyMcGilly, people's beef here is a non-G1 franchise getting G1-ness shoehorned awkwardly into it.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:@Deadput:
1. I agree that AoE sucked (for a lot of reasons.. Optimus shooting Attinger and the Dinobots wiping the floor with the KSI drones were the only really good parts), but TLK? Not so much. TLK after all ACTUALLY FOLLOWED UP ON THE QUESTION OF CYBERTRON'S FATE THAT DARK OF THE MOON LEFT HANGING.

2. Travis Knight is pissing all over the movieverse's established design conventions and backstory by shoving GEEWUNnery in where it. Has. No. Place. I love G1, but it is not the be-all end-all of everything good about Transformers and people should stop treating it like that. He is acting with total disrespect to the universe and source material he's been handed the reins of. The movieverse needs some fixing, but throwing out its established conventions and takes on the lore to shoehorn in drooling G1 worship isn't fixing. That's just making an exponentially bigger mess of an already thorny continuity. I wouldn't call that putting love into it. Effort, maybe, but effort by itself doesn't mean jack sh*t. Putting effort into something doesn't stop it from being bad or disrespectful. I'm angry because a Transformers universe I'm invested in is in new hands that don't really seem to care for it and are in new hands that seem to be uncaringly mangling it. So I'll insult Travis Knight all I smegging like.

3. What people mean by "G1 reboots" is reboots that are based on the aesthetics and characterizations of G1 and generally with new alt-universe versions of the G1 characters

4. The reason it's doing well with critics isn't because of Knight's effort, it's just because his name isn't marked by critics for an automatic distortedly jaundiced viewing.

5. If they wanted a new story they should have MADE A NEW SMEGGING STORY instead of hijacking and warping an established one.

SillyMcGilly, people's beef here is a non-G1 franchise getting G1-ness shoehorned awkwardly into it.

SillyMcGilly wrote:****, these last couple of days on Facebook and everywhere else Transformery I am on have been a nightmare of complaining 40-year-olds. OPTIONS! OPTIONS ARE GOOD! ****, I can't believe the childish ways of the majority of this fandom. Maybe you guys need a couple dozen Optimuses released to get your mind off toys for a second and learn how life works.

People, put your feet in the shoes of Hasbro. YEARS we complained about not enough G1. Then they released G1 Prime in CW. "Not good enough. Too chunky."

Then Titans Return voyager and leader. "Not G1 enough. Gimmick too obtrusive. Colors suck. Plane mode sucks."

Then PotP. "Too big for most CHUG. Need a G1 voyager."

Siege brings a G1 voyager. "Good robot, weird alt mode."

They decide to reissue G1 vintage Optimus. "No trailer. Eh. I don't care."

Then because people liked the Cybertron design for Siege Magnus and thought it would make a good voyager Optimus, they figured a Cybertron Optimus homage was in order. "Who would like this? Not me, therefore nobody. Nope."

Then they release this **** EPIC G1 movie design for Optimus. "TOO MANY OPTIMUS PRIMES! Ya all are RUINING THE FRANCHISE!" Get your HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES and realize if you don't like thing, DON'T **** BUY THING! **** I need a break from **** internet people..

Edit: Also take note how insulting you are as a fandom to those designers who you basically treat like slaves. If their hard work doesn't satisfy you, you insult them. If they work more to try and make something better or just REISSUE THE ORIGINAL essencially as a GIFT to the fandom as a bonus and unrelated to the main lines thing, you call them a bunch of G1 cock suckers. I love the brand, but am ASHAMED ofthis fandom.

SillyMcGilly wrote:****, these last couple of days on Facebook and everywhere else Transformery I am on have been a nightmare of complaining 40-year-olds. OPTIONS! OPTIONS ARE GOOD! ****, I can't believe the childish ways of the majority of this fandom. Maybe you guys need a couple dozen Optimuses released to get your mind off toys for a second and learn how life works.

People, put your feet in the shoes of Hasbro. YEARS we complained about not enough G1. Then they released G1 Prime in CW. "Not good enough. Too chunky."

Then Titans Return voyager and leader. "Not G1 enough. Gimmick too obtrusive. Colors suck. Plane mode sucks."

Then PotP. "Too big for most CHUG. Need a G1 voyager."

Siege brings a G1 voyager. "Good robot, weird alt mode."

They decide to reissue G1 vintage Optimus. "No trailer. Eh. I don't care."

Then because people liked the Cybertron design for Siege Magnus and thought it would make a good voyager Optimus, they figured a Cybertron Optimus homage was in order. "Who would like this? Not me, therefore nobody. Nope."

Then they release this **** EPIC G1 movie design for Optimus. "TOO MANY OPTIMUS PRIMES! Ya all are RUINING THE FRANCHISE!" Get your HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES and realize if you don't like thing, DON'T **** BUY THING! **** I need a break from **** internet people..

Edit: Also take note how insulting you are as a fandom to those designers who you basically treat like slaves. If their hard work doesn't satisfy you, you insult them. If they work more to try and make something better or just REISSUE THE ORIGINAL essencially as a GIFT to the fandom as a bonus and unrelated to the main lines thing, you call them a bunch of G1 cock suckers. I love the brand, but am ASHAMED ofthis fandom.

SillyMcGilly wrote:****, these last couple of days on Facebook and everywhere else Transformery I am on have been a nightmare of complaining 40-year-olds. OPTIONS! OPTIONS ARE GOOD! ****, I can't believe the childish ways of the majority of this fandom. Maybe you guys need a couple dozen Optimuses released to get your mind off toys for a second and learn how life works.

People, put your feet in the shoes of Hasbro. YEARS we complained about not enough G1. Then they released G1 Prime in CW. "Not good enough. Too chunky."

Then Titans Return voyager and leader. "Not G1 enough. Gimmick too obtrusive. Colors suck. Plane mode sucks."

Then PotP. "Too big for most CHUG. Need a G1 voyager."

Siege brings a G1 voyager. "Good robot, weird alt mode."

They decide to reissue G1 vintage Optimus. "No trailer. Eh. I don't care."

Then because people liked the Cybertron design for Siege Magnus and thought it would make a good voyager Optimus, they figured a Cybertron Optimus homage was in order. "Who would like this? Not me, therefore nobody. Nope."

Then they release this **** EPIC G1 movie design for Optimus. "TOO MANY OPTIMUS PRIMES! Ya all are RUINING THE FRANCHISE!" Get your HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES and realize if you don't like thing, DON'T **** BUY THING! **** I need a break from **** internet people..

Edit: Also take note how insulting you are as a fandom to those designers who you basically treat like slaves. If their hard work doesn't satisfy you, you insult them. If they work more to try and make something better or just REISSUE THE ORIGINAL essencially as a GIFT to the fandom as a bonus and unrelated to the main lines thing, you call them a bunch of G1 cock suckers. I love the brand, but am ASHAMED ofthis fandom.

Cobotron wrote:I'm confused. And, obviously I haven't seen the movie yet, but what about Prime's alt mode is Cybertronian? Can I assume that by the end of the movie, Prime shows up on Earth? (DON'T ANSWER THAT, PLEASE!)

Anyway, I kind of like the over all design. It's kind of what I had hoped to see way back in '97. G1 in inspiration, with a heavy spoonful of modernization.
Looks like a pretty neat toy actually. Do I need another Frieghtliner Prime? Probably not.

Randomhero wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I'm confused. And, obviously I haven't seen the movie yet, but what about Prime's alt mode is Cybertronian? Can I assume that by the end of the movie, Prime shows up on Earth? (DON'T ANSWER THAT, PLEASE!)

Anyway, I kind of like the over all design. It's kind of what I had hoped to see way back in '97. G1 in inspiration, with a heavy spoonful of modernization.
Looks like a pretty neat toy actually. Do I need another Frieghtliner Prime? Probably not.

Why are you asking about stuff if you don’t want it answered?!

Cobotron wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I'm confused. And, obviously I haven't seen the movie yet, but what about Prime's alt mode is Cybertronian? Can I assume that by the end of the movie, Prime shows up on Earth? (DON'T ANSWER THAT, PLEASE!)

Anyway, I kind of like the over all design. It's kind of what I had hoped to see way back in '97. G1 in inspiration, with a heavy spoonful of modernization.
Looks like a pretty neat toy actually. Do I need another Frieghtliner Prime? Probably not.

Why are you asking about stuff if you don’t want it answered?!

Just thinking out loud, I guess. And for once I actually WANT to see a Transformers movie, so I'd like to get my answers from the movie, not you all.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I'm confused. And, obviously I haven't seen the movie yet, but what about Prime's alt mode is Cybertronian? Can I assume that by the end of the movie, Prime shows up on Earth? (DON'T ANSWER THAT, PLEASE!)

Anyway, I kind of like the over all design. It's kind of what I had hoped to see way back in '97. G1 in inspiration, with a heavy spoonful of modernization.
Looks like a pretty neat toy actually. Do I need another Frieghtliner Prime? Probably not.

Why are you asking about stuff if you don’t want it answered?!

Just thinking out loud, I guess. And for once I actually WANT to see a Transformers movie, so I'd like to get my answers from the movie, not you all.

In other words, they're rhetorical questions.

ksquad80 wrote:...just a churn of negativity.

carytheone wrote:

ksquad80 wrote:...just a churn of negativity.

Unfortunately that seems to be the bulk of any fandom.

Welcome to the forums

You just have to have your emergency rain poncho ready for the occasional **** show that erupts on the main/busy threads. There is a handy mute button in the form of setting users as a "foe" that comes in pretty handy

SillyMcGilly wrote:****, these last couple of days on Facebook and everywhere else Transformery I am on have been a nightmare of complaining 40-year-olds. OPTIONS! OPTIONS ARE GOOD! ****, I can't believe the childish ways of the majority of this fandom. Maybe you guys need a couple dozen Optimuses released to get your mind off toys for a second and learn how life works.

SillyMcGilly wrote:People, put your feet in the shoes of Hasbro. YEARS we complained about not enough G1. Then they released G1 Prime in CW. "Not good enough. Too chunky."

SillyMcGilly wrote:Then Titans Return voyager and leader. "Not G1 enough. Gimmick too obtrusive. Colors suck. Plane mode sucks."

SillyMcGilly wrote:Then PotP. "Too big for most CHUG. Need a G1 voyager."

SillyMcGilly wrote:Siege brings a G1 voyager. "Good robot, weird alt mode."

SillyMcGilly wrote:They decide to reissue G1 vintage Optimus. "No trailer. Eh. I don't care."

SillyMcGilly wrote:Then because people liked the Cybertron design for Siege Magnus and thought it would make a good voyager Optimus, they figured a Cybertron Optimus homage was in order. "Who would like this? Not me, therefore nobody. Nope."

SillyMcGilly wrote:Then they release this **** EPIC G1 movie design for Optimus. "TOO MANY OPTIMUS PRIMES! Ya all are RUINING THE FRANCHISE!" Get your HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES and realize if you don't like thing, DON'T **** BUY THING! **** I need a break from **** internet people..

SillyMcGilly wrote:Edit: Also take note how insulting you are as a fandom to those designers who you basically treat like slaves. If their hard work doesn't satisfy you, you insult them. If they work more to try and make something better or just REISSUE THE ORIGINAL essencially as a GIFT to the fandom as a bonus and unrelated to the main lines thing, you call them a bunch of G1 cock suckers. I love the brand, but am ASHAMED ofthis fandom.