In-Hand Images: Avengers Infinite Death's Head
Friday, May 16th, 2014 9:35AM CDT
Category: Toy NewsPosted by: El Duque Views: 15,326
Topic Options: View Discussion · Sign in or Join to reply
News Search
Got Transformers News? Let us know here!
Most Popular Transformers News
Most Recent Transformers News
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 9:47am CDT
Posted by Rated X on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:19am CDT
Posted by mooncake623 on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:21am CDT
Rated X wrote:This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
Sunbow was part of Marvel no?
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:23am CDT
Good thing he's not a super hero/villain.Rated X wrote:This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
Posted by Diem on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:29am CDT
Rated X wrote:This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
I agree, though my personal objection of him was that in a universe full of already surprisingly well-established characters they had to introduce this guy. If they needed an ill-tempered lunatic to chase Galvatron through time what exactly was, say, Afterburner doing that was so important he couldn't fill this role.
Posted by triKlops on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:36am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:44am CDT
The UK comic was still somewhat reliant on the US comic at the time. By the time Death's Head was introduced in the UK, Afterburner had already been introduced in the US two months earlier, and so the UK comics were working to not contradict what was going on the US issues at the time.Diem wrote:Rated X wrote:This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
I agree, though my personal objection of him was that in a universe full of already surprisingly well-established characters they had to introduce this guy. If they needed an ill-tempered lunatic to chase Galvatron through time what exactly was, say, Afterburner doing that was so important he couldn't fill this role.
Plus, Afterburner isn't a bounty hunter, which is specifically what Simon Furman wanted to use as, according to Geoff Senior, Furman's script called for such a character. And since they wanted to do something new and creative, they chose to make this new character a non-Transformer who would serve to frame the story. As a result, the character proved immensely popular with the readers of the time.
Posted by mblase75 on May 16th, 2014 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on May 16th, 2014 @ 12:05pm CDT
mblase75 wrote:Can someone familiar with the character tell me why Death's Head is human-sized when fighting human characters in the comics, and Transformers-sized when fighting Transformers?
Dr Who came along and shrunk Death's Head from being a Transformers sized character to a human sized character and sent him off from the Transformers Universe to the Marvel Universe.
Posted by Diem on May 16th, 2014 @ 12:08pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:mblase75 wrote:Can someone familiar with the character tell me why Death's Head is human-sized when fighting human characters in the comics, and Transformers-sized when fighting Transformers?
Dr Who came along and shrunk Death's Head from being a Transformers sized character to a human sized character and sent him off from the Transformers Universe to the Marvel Universe.
Even though I know that's the truth it still sounds like you're taking the piss. Oh Marvel, you so wacky.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 12:37pm CDT
Posted by Diem on May 16th, 2014 @ 12:47pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also, about the Sunbow cartoon not having super heroes/villains in it, yes, it totally did. Only they weren't humans. They were the Transformers themselves. The Autobots and Decepticons were so painfully obvious super heroes and super villains to the people of Earth in that cartoon. Take the old Superfriends cartoon, turn them and the Legion of Doom into giant transforming robots instead of humans/humanoids, and there's hardly any difference between them.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the writers had superheroes on the mind. "This one can teleport! This one has super strength! This one can create illusions!"
Not that that wound up being a bad thing.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 16th, 2014 @ 4:50pm CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:03pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
Dr Who came along and shrunk Death's Head from being a Transformers sized character to a human sized character and sent him off from the Transformers Universe to the Marvel Universe.
This is mind boggling to me! I was NOT expecting to see Dr. Who show up in this thread. I want that comic as i'm a huge Dr.Who fan. What was the issue number and what Dr??
This is very exciting for me now and that DH fig looks great. They did a good job on that sculpt.
Posted by triKlops on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:13pm CDT
MGrotusque wrote:Seibertron wrote:
Dr Who came along and shrunk Death's Head from being a Transformers sized character to a human sized character and sent him off from the Transformers Universe to the Marvel Universe.
This is mind boggling to me! I was NOT expecting to see Dr. Who show up in this thread. I want that comic as i'm a huge Dr.Who fan. What was the issue number and what Dr??
This is very exciting for me now and that DH fig looks great. They did a good job on that sculpt.
Hopefully this helps ya.
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Death%27s_Head
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Death%27s_Head_(G1)
Posted by MGrotusque on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:32pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2014 @ 12:10am CDT
What's more is that the same goes for the human/non-TF villains in the G1 cartoon. Dr. Arkeville, for instance, fits the classic "evil scientist with mind control technology" supervillain role almost too well. King Nergill is the classic "evil king of an inhuman kingdom." TORQ III is the classic "computer AI gone mad". Kremzeek is the classic "accidental chaotic energy monster". Abdul Fakkadi is the classic "militaristic dictator of a foreign nation." Etc.Diem wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also, about the Sunbow cartoon not having super heroes/villains in it, yes, it totally did. Only they weren't humans. They were the Transformers themselves. The Autobots and Decepticons were so painfully obvious super heroes and super villains to the people of Earth in that cartoon. Take the old Superfriends cartoon, turn them and the Legion of Doom into giant transforming robots instead of humans/humanoids, and there's hardly any difference between them.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the writers had superheroes on the mind. "This one can teleport! This one has super strength! This one can create illusions!"
Not that that wound up being a bad thing.
And some of the others match up with more well known supervillains:
- Lord Chumley -- Kraven the Hunter
- Shawn Berger -- Lex Luthor
- Victor Drath -- The Kingpin
- Old Snake is Cobra Commander
One could even argue that he's practically like what Nightbird was, only with a personality/life/career of his own, and not built by humans (but he was still built by someone, nonetheless). Or like Nijika before she was damaged. Or like NUL-A from "The Ultimate Weapon" (if he too was created by someone).
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2014 @ 12:59am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
He's a member MI:13, he's a comic book character that's fought alongside and against other superheroes, he's both.
Posted by Diem on May 17th, 2014 @ 1:01am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What's more is that the same goes for the human/non-TF villains in the G1 cartoon. Dr. Arkeville, for instance, fits the classic "evil scientist with mind control technology" supervillain role almost too well. King Nergill is the classic "evil king of an inhuman kingdom." TORQ III is the classic "computer AI gone mad". Kremzeek is the classic "accidental chaotic energy monster". Abdul Fakkadi is the classic "militaristic dictator of a foreign nation." Etc.Diem wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also, about the Sunbow cartoon not having super heroes/villains in it, yes, it totally did. Only they weren't humans. They were the Transformers themselves. The Autobots and Decepticons were so painfully obvious super heroes and super villains to the people of Earth in that cartoon. Take the old Superfriends cartoon, turn them and the Legion of Doom into giant transforming robots instead of humans/humanoids, and there's hardly any difference between them.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the writers had superheroes on the mind. "This one can teleport! This one has super strength! This one can create illusions!"
Not that that wound up being a bad thing.
And some of the others match up with more well known supervillains:By comparison, Death's Head is hardly all that different. Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
- Lord Chumley -- Kraven the Hunter
- Shawn Berger -- Lex Luthor
- Victor Drath -- The Kingpin
- Old Snake is Cobra Commander
One could even argue that he's practically like what Nightbird was, only with a personality/life/career of his own, and not built by humans (but he was still built by someone, nonetheless). Or like Nijika before she was damaged. Or like NUL-A from "The Ultimate Weapon" (if he too was created by someone).
Well we gettin' too deep. I'm only here for the giant robots.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2014 @ 1:07am CDT
Was mostly referring to his term in the TFUK comics.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
He's a member MI:13, he's a comic book character that's fought alongside and against other superheroes, he's both.
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2014 @ 1:16am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Was mostly referring to his term in the TFUK comics.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
He's a member MI:13, he's a comic book character that's fought alongside and against other superheroes, he's both.
Probably should have stated that then!
In which case, he's a super-villain.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2014 @ 1:20am CDT
I didn't think it was necessary since his term in the TF comics was the primary fiction-related thing that was being discussed in this thread in the first place.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Was mostly referring to his term in the TFUK comics.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
He's a member MI:13, he's a comic book character that's fought alongside and against other superheroes, he's both.
Probably should have stated that then!
In which case, he's a super-villain.
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2014 @ 1:30am CDT
He's still a super-villain. >:oP
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2014 @ 1:35am CDT
Outside of the TF comics, yes, but could you explain how he's a villain in the TF comics?Burn wrote:Oops. My bad.
He's still a super-villain. >:oP
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2014 @ 1:51am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2014 @ 1:54am CDT
Only cuz he was promised to get paid for it. Rodimus then paid him to hunt down Cyclonus and Scourge. He then fought against Unicron alongside Rodimus, for free.Burn wrote:He briefly hunted Rodimus Prime. Hunting the good guy tends to make you a villain. >:oP
He was a neutral. His actions were driven by a single goal: Profit (or by forced servitude by Unicron, which he detested).
Posted by Diem on May 17th, 2014 @ 2:00am CDT
Is being a Mary Sue villainous enough?Sabrblade wrote:Outside of the TF comics, yes, but could you explain how he's a villain in the TF comics?Burn wrote:Oops. My bad.
He's still a super-villain. >:oP
After all he got the jump on Rodimus, Soundwave and Shockwave, all of whom were tough cookies and he was the only one who could somehow resist Unicron's thrall
He's pretty much the proto-Drift, except not even Cybertronian.
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2014 @ 2:01am CDT
ah, no. Regardless of what was driving him, he was (albeit briefly) the heroes antagonist, ergo, villain.
Posted by leakin' lubricant on May 17th, 2014 @ 2:02am CDT
He is so bought, yes?
Posted by Dead Metal on May 17th, 2014 @ 2:13am CDT
This should be in the Non-Transformers forum.
Or will we be reporting on every new Spider-Man anf GI Joe toy that comes out now?
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2014 @ 7:11am CDT
He was a TF character first, as it was the TF comics from which he was created as a character.Dead Metal wrote:Why is this in the Transformers toy section? He's a Marvel toy based on a Marvrl comic character. Sure he was in a ton of Marvel UK TF comics, but he's still not an actual Transformers character.
This should be in the Non-Transformers forum.
Or will we be reporting on every new Spider-Man anf GI Joe toy that comes out now?
Or, to put it another way, because Ryan permits it.
Posted by leakin' lubricant on May 17th, 2014 @ 7:45am CDT
Dead Metal wrote:Why is this in the Transformers toy section? He's a Marvel toy based on a Marvrl comic character. Sure he was in a ton of Marvel UK TF comics, but he's still not an actual Transformers character.
This should be in the Non-Transformers forum.
Or will we be reporting on every new Spider-Man anf GI Joe toy that comes out now?
Come on now he quite clearly is a Transformers character, it just so happens that he has continued to appear in story lines transcending Transformers, let me put it this way, would you pose that same argument if an Impactor figure was to be released?
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2014 @ 9:08am CDT
In every TF issue he appeared it, there were very clear cut, black-and-white, obvious good guys (the Autobots) and obvious bad guys (either Decepticons or Unicron), with him being caught in the middle of the two.Burn wrote:And what, because he was only doing it for profit doesn't make him a villain?
ah, no. Regardless of what was driving him, he was (albeit briefly) the heroes antagonist, ergo, villain.
Being an antagonist is not the same thing as being a villain. An antagonist is merely an obstacle for the protagonist. A villain is much deeper than that. Villains are evil, evil is what makes villains be villains in the most basic of aspects. Death's Head, however, is not evil. Best one could describe him as is an "anti-hero". Neither good nor evil, neither hero nor villain.
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2014 @ 3:56pm CDT
So keep arguing, as far as I care, you're wrong. Done.
Posted by Tresob on June 2nd, 2014 @ 11:58pm CDT
http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/marvel-infinite-series-marvels-deaths-head-figure?BR=820&SBR=801&ID=33160
Good hunting!
(And don't forget the 10% discount code: 10htsdisc to help with the exorbitant shipping...or, you know, just order six of him and get free shipping.)
Posted by Va'al on June 3rd, 2014 @ 3:48am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 3rd, 2014 @ 8:00am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 3rd, 2014 @ 8:11am CDT
Already went with BBTS, though.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 3rd, 2014 @ 9:04am CDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 3rd, 2014 @ 10:52am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:So are these coming to the shelf in normal stores? Or do I need to hunt and find one of these guys online?
I haven't seen the new Marvel Infinite Series figures anywhere here in Chicago. Not sure which chain is carrying them but I haven't seen anything at Toys R Us, Walmart, Target, Meijer, Kmart or Kohl's.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 3rd, 2014 @ 11:03am CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on June 3rd, 2014 @ 11:03am CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on June 3rd, 2014 @ 11:15am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 3rd, 2014 @ 4:51pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Shelf price is surprisingly cheap. If I could find it for twice that, I'd be pleased.
I'm getting mine through BBTS in July, this is a bad (good) summer for the Marvel Universe figures.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 3rd, 2014 @ 5:15pm CDT
I'd love to get some of the Japan figures like Hi-Q and Alpha Trion, but the price of $100+ isn't worth it, sadly.
Posted by neu318 on June 4th, 2014 @ 8:04am CDT
for $12.99 plus shipping. Paid around $17.00
Posted by leakin' lubricant on June 10th, 2014 @ 4:27pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2014 @ 10:47pm CDT
Where'd you get yours from? I preordered from BBTS and it's still on preorder for July there.leakin' lubricant wrote:He's arrived, yes?
Just got in from a long day at work so will post some more pics tomorrow eh?
Maybe even do a review yes? (ok I'll stop now... Yes?)
Posted by leakin' lubricant on June 11th, 2014 @ 12:35am CDT