Get Legacy Motormaster for At Least $10 off on Target Pre-Order Right Now

The advent of the new Legacy reveals have come with price hikes. For instance, leader class figures are now $55.99 USD. BUT Amazon has it up for $49.99, the price of old. This is the case for most if not all wave 2 figures that are now up for preorder on Amazon. We also have new stock photos of the toys in different poses, shown in 3d renders, and shots of them in their box showcasing the box art.

Knockout https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen ... 287&sr=8-1?tag=seibertron07-20&

Wild Rider https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen ... 92&sr=8-16?tag=seibertron07-20&

Elita-1 https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen ... 92&sr=8-18?tag=seibertron07-20&

Tarantulas https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen ... 92&sr=8-19?tag=seibertron07-20&

Jhiaxus https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen ... 92&sr=8-17?tag=seibertron07-20&

Blitzwing https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen ... C97&sr=8-3?tag=seibertron07-20&

Motormaster https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen ... 114&sr=8-1?tag=seibertron07-20&

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Soooooo hasbro pulse got rid of the free shipping?

Yeah... I don't know that I'll ever order from them just because of that.
I'll take my chances with Amazon, GameStop, and hunting in-store.

Will Amazon have the SG Magnus though?

I thought it was a Pulse exclusive line in the US

The entire SG line has been and still is Pulse-exclusive.

Only in the US. In Canada, it is available at Gamestop but without the comic.

Elita looks like she should be Princess Toadstool's car in Mario Kart or something lol. Easy pass.

I have the 35th anniversary Soundblaster version of the Siege Soundwave mold and I'm good with it, so don't need this Soundwave.

Blitzwing is a hell no.

All the rest looks awesome and will definitely be getting them. I'm betting that we will be able to pose Menasor better than other combiners since the 4 deluxes aren't really forming the limbs, just attaching and filling them out. Motormaster looks awesome and I love the base mode. Can't wait to have him going head to head with Optimus like in the episode "Masquerade."

Jhiaxus is a boss and its about time we had a figure like this for him.

Even if Motormaster is released earlier, it looks like the figure will be released before all the limb bots, no wonder only two are shown on the back of the box and only the third one is teased on the front. I called the auto morph transformation for the limbs, there's no way a child can separate Dragstrip without some tool.

Does Wildrider use Dragstrip's guns, they look similar.

Elita One is the Arcee we deserved.

If Knockout still uses clear plastic in all the spots Jazz does it'll probably break when you try to remove it from the packaging.

Now we wait and speculate.

Starseeker wrote:Elita looks like she should be Princess Toadstool's car in Mario Kart or something lol. Easy pass.

You say that like it's a bad thing

While I'm excited about the diversity of the cast, each of these toys is giving me a different feeling.

Knock Out: As a huge Prime fan, I was so excited about this toy. In practice, it's very meh. Not sure whether to get it or not.

Wildrider: Hard pass from me. I'm not a Menasor person, and that backpack just looks painful. I'll wait to see if Dead End and Breakdown are any good before making the final decision. (Besides, I can always swap in my CW Stunticons )

Tarantulas: Weirdly enough, I don't like it. I love Tarantulas as a character, but there's something so fundamentally wrong to me about him being so similar to Blackarachnia. 30/70 shot I get it.

Elita-1: I have no idea what to think. On the one hand, this is the best Elita we've got. On the other, it's so clearly meant to be Minerva that it's painful. I'll have to see if I can get Minerva before pulling the trigger on Elita.

Jhiaxus: Not a character I have a personal connection to, but that is one fine-looking figure! Going to get him if my budget allows it.

Soundwave: ... I wanted Prime Soundwave so bad it hurts. Anyway, I already have the Siege. Pass.

Blitzwing: I've kept out of the debate on Blitzboy so far, but here are my two cents: he looks like ass. The jet mode was completely sacrificed, the tank mode had to make major sacrifices, and the robot mode looks damn near perfect. If the prices weren't so high, I'd go for the Titans Return version.

Also, they completely squandered the opportunity to make this Animated Blitzwing.


Even the jet modes line up!

I wouldve loved an animated blitzwing done right
They could've even given different colored blast effects to mimic the fire and ice thing

Knockout looks better than expected.
Tarantulas looks cool!
Jhiaxus looks pretty faithful to his comics desgin.
Elita One looks pretty fun!
Motormaster looks good and Menasor is fine,But I wouldn't want him to become the new standard for combiners.

First-Aid wrote:
Day 1 of waiting for Transformers: Prime Masterpiece news.

Never give up!

Armada first,though.

Razorbeast88 wrote:I wouldve loved an animated blitzwing done right
They could've even given different colored blast effects to mimic the fire and ice thing

There's always the red and blue ones that came with the Tricranius set.

And, are blast effects even a thing anymore in Legacy?

Sabrblade wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:I wouldve loved an animated blitzwing done right
They could've even given different colored blast effects to mimic the fire and ice thing

There's always the red and blue ones that came with the Tricranius set.

And, are blast effects even a thing anymore in Legacy?

Very true, but no three faces or double turret tank. Closest thing would be if an upgrade kit comes out but even then

Good point, I'm not sure that they are. The rereleases will still be bloosh compatible as emgo would say, but im not sure about the rest

Got to see the Jiaxus pictures and I gotta ask.

Is this weirdness his very own thing, or is he a "pretool" of some other character like so many Legacy figures are?

Rtron wrote:I'm really liking Tarantulas, although his proportions seem a tad off. What surprised me is that he's an entirely new mold! I fully expected him to be just a Blackarachnia retool. They're taking the whole "realistic altmodes" thing quite seriously, love it.

I thought Tarantulas looked a little off proportion-wise but after looking at some screenshots, he’s not that far off. The mold does a pretty good job of covering the robot parts. He’s the only one I’m considering getting. Just not interested in the rest.

Tigerhawk7109 wrote: (Besides, I can always swap in my CW Stunticons )

Only for the legs, it seems. And this whole CW compatibility is just a guess/assumption. We can't know for sure if it's the exact same peg sizes. Could be like an Airlock situation where Hasbro uses different dimension for a similar system making the Earthrise bases incompatible with the TR bases.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Got to see the Jiaxus pictures and I gotta ask.

Is this weirdness his very own thing, or is he a "pretool" of some other character like so many Legacy figures are?

The jet mode is very much his own thing. They could reuse the engineering for something else but I wager a lot of this figure will remain unique to him.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Got to see the Jiaxus pictures and I gotta ask.

Is this weirdness his very own thing, or is he a "pretool" of some other character like so many Legacy figures are?

The jet mode is very much his own thing. They could reuse the engineering for something else but I wager a lot of this figure will remain unique to him.

The jet mode is SCREAMING to me remold as Armada Thrust, the red nose lines up well with the dimensions of Thrusts noggin and the sides look an awful lot like how AT's feet flanked the jet cockpit, but this IS meant to be Jhaxius

Is Knock-Out just a retool of Jazz??? I thought he was a new mold but he looks like a retool to me. Such a waste of a cool character

ShadowGinrai wrote:Is Knock-Out just a retool of Jazz??? I thought he was a new mold but he looks like a retool to me. Such a waste of a cool character

It was confirmed as a retool of Jazz during the stream.

Jhiaxus retooled into Armada Thrust, I can actually see that, but would they make a Voyager Thrust?

Emerje

Sowndwave76 wrote:Doesn’t bother me because I’m not getting her, but Elita’s car mode is horrible because of the colors, & as Primalxconvoy just mentioned, that’s not a good break-up between panels…
That looks like a clown car…
And I’m sure it wasn’t possible, but that would probably look tons better if the form of the car was complimented with one main color (and then maybe a small accent here or there).
Her bot mode looks fine, although is a few photos her head looks so big, it makes it look like a kid version of her character.

I honestly laughed out loud when I saw the vehicle mode, as the colours are so very, very p*ss-poor. It was interesting that the Hasbro bloke gushed that this was the first "genuine" mold designed for Elita, even though it's a remold of Minerva that's been released first (a premold).

Flashwave wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Got to see the Jiaxus pictures and I gotta ask.

Is this weirdness his very own thing, or is he a "pretool" of some other character like so many Legacy figures are?

The jet mode is very much his own thing. They could reuse the engineering for something else but I wager a lot of this figure will remain unique to him.

The jet mode is SCREAMING to me remold as Armada Thrust, the red nose lines up well with the dimensions of Thrusts noggin and the sides look an awful lot like how AT's feet flanked the jet cockpit, but this IS meant to be Jhaxius

Jiaxus is so weird and UNIQUE that I must get him.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Elita’s car mode (...)
That looks like a clown car…

Goddammit, now I can't unsee it!

Let's hope Minerva turn out better.

ShadowGinrai wrote:Is Knock-Out just a retool of Jazz??? I thought he was a new mold but he looks like a retool to me. Such a waste of a cool character

The car shell is new (and rather beautiful) but he reuses Jazz' transformation and many robot mode parts which make them end up looking rather similar in robot mode, which we knew would happen from his comic look.

Honestly, the Jazz mold was never one of my favourites, it's just ok. Same with SS 86 Blurr. I think of all the SS 86 deluxes, Kup is the best.

Anyways, here is a look at Jazz and Knockout.

Emerje wrote:Jhiaxus retooled into Armada Thrust, I can actually see that, but would they make a Voyager Thrust?

Emerje

Thrust is usually a voyager, as are seekers, these days. Him not being a voyager would be more odd for me.

I have to admit, I think I let myself be overexcited by the very Elita robot mode parts and the fake head on the roof of the car.

I think I still want it, though.

I don't understand the complaints about Elita 1 having multi colors in her car mode when people gush over other cars doing the same thing. It's not like the the two tones follow the individual parts, they follow an actual pattern they built into the figure. For example the two tone front fender is not where a red part and a pink part come together, it's a single part intentionally colored in two tones. This isn't like the Siege ER Lambos that had those black PLA parts on the sides that couldn't be painted over.




Personally I think she looks good two toned because that's how all of the past G1 Elita's have been, why would they stop now? I don't think she looks like a clown car at all.






I really hope when she's tooled into Minerva she stays a Headmaster. Also I'm going to save the shoulder pilon gimmick for Minerva, I'm going to keep them folded away like we were shown on the stream for Elita. I imagine some of the car parts for Minerva will be altered as well, maybe rounder in the front like the original, a lot of the bot parts will need to be changed as well since the upside down T is part of Elita's design.

Emerje

Elita is the only one I am getting.
Disappointed with how Knockout turned out. A retool of Jazz I understand but, they could have made him less blocky.
Betting that Menasor will come in a boxed set like the POTP Dinobots or SS Devastator and with extras.

Emerje wrote:I don't understand the complaints about Elita 1 having multi colors in her car mode when people gush over other cars doing the same thing. It's not like the the two tones follow the individual parts, they follow an actual pattern they built into the figure. For example the two tone front fender is not where a red part and a pink part come together, it's a single part intentionally colored in two tones. This isn't like the Siege ER Lambos that had those black PLA parts on the sides that couldn't be painted over.




Personally I think she looks good two toned because that's how all of the past G1 Elita's have been, why would they stop now? I don't think she looks like a clown car at all.






I really hope when she's tooled into Minerva she stays a Headmaster. Also I'm going to save the shoulder pilon gimmick for Minerva, I'm going to keep them folded away like we were shown on the stream for Elita. I imagine some of the car parts for Minerva will be altered as well, maybe rounder in the front like the original, a lot of the bot parts will need to be changed as well since the upside down T is part of Elita's design.

Emerje

Well, if it was intentional, it must have been intentionally bad..

Agh! $124.99 on Amazon.ca for Motormaster...those are Commander-class prices!

*edit* I'm an idiot. I thought he was Leaderclass, my bad.

optimeow wrote:Betting that Menasor will come in a boxed set like the POTP Dinobots or SS Devastator and with extras.

PotP Dinobots only came as a TT Selects almost 3 years after their release initially. I'm not sure what else TT could add? I would definitely get a box set if released this way. Since I'm not too keen on getting the Stunticons again, waiting for a box set might actually work in my favor this time, and if it doesn't happen, so be it. No big loss.

Thanks to Will and whoever else helped news Target's preorder link for Motormaster...
I still can't believe how horrible their website is... What a joke.

But between the $10 off $50 promotional sale, having a Redcard, and a $10 giftcard I forgot about, I'm getting him (as long as it actually happens) for $67.46!!

Next issue... Do I double-dip on this set and keep my preorder with Amazon.......... ????

Taking a close look at the Tarantulus images, It looks as if the spider legs will not move independently. All four legs, on each side, seem to be immobile where they join to the spider body. The joints in the middle of each leg are ball sockets.

That may mean he won't be as poseable as I thought.

MM, Blitzwing, Knockout and Tarantulas pre-orders have been placed. Wild-Rider is not available to pre-order outside of the U.S it seems. Will have to wait for that one.

MM says he'll be shipped in December. That's a long wait. But... hopefully they'll ship him before that as has happened with other preorders.

It seems recently that when a toy is an All new mold, Hasbro makes sure to let us know. If it is a recolor or retool, they of course try to spin it in the best way possible. I get it, not judging.

However...it appears Tarantulas has some shared engineering, perhaps even the arachnid legs with Kingdom Scorponok, or am I just imagining? I don't seem to remember the presenter firmly stating one way or another if it was all new, or not.

Also seeing the live chat reaction to a cleaned up Siege Soundwave ( as opposed to the Netflix cassette player everyone was hoping for) was brutal...

o.supreme wrote:Also seeing the live chat reaction to a cleaned up Siege Soundwave ( as opposed to the Netflix cassette player everyone was hoping for) was brutal...

I'm sure it was...
I wasn't surprised it wasn't a Prime version, but man, repacking the Siege mold is one of those decisions that must have a lot of people in disbelief. I was honestly ready to get another copy of the NF mold...
The only way I'll buy this "new" Legacy version is if I can get it for < $20.
And no, I'm not expecting that to actually happen.

So during yesterday's new reveal fervor, two leaks/rumors were updated in ways that are suddenly relevant, that I missed due to said fervor (although had I copied them over yesterday, they probably would have been buried anyway). The one of note for this thread: the Amazon-exclusive Wreckers repaints will have the Diaclone decos for the Jumpstarters, not the Saltman decos.

The main reason this is relevant is that this showed up on TFW:
Unless I'm seeing things, I think that's actually the Wreckers badge on him instead of a typical Autobadge, which will be interesting if that's the case for all of those Wreckers releases.

Nemesis Primal wrote:So during yesterday's new reveal fervor, two leaks/rumors were updated in ways that are suddenly relevant, that I missed due to said fervor (although had I copied them over yesterday, they probably would have been buried anyway). The one of note for this thread: the Amazon-exclusive Wreckers repaints will have the Diaclone decos for the Jumpstarters, not the Saltman decos.

The main reason this is relevant is that this showed up on TFW:

01-Wrecker-Jumpstarter.png

Unless I'm seeing things, I think that's actually the Wreckers badge on him instead of a typical Autobadge, which will be interesting if that's the case for all of those Wreckers releases.

Interesting. Need to see more of these guys. But may break down and buy these since I never got the TR Jump Starters, and been wanting them since eI did own them as a kid in the 80s.

ShadowGinrai wrote:Is Knock-Out just a retool of Jazz??? I thought he was a new mold but he looks like a retool to me. Such a waste of a cool character

Retool or no I think it actually looks pretty good and almost hardly noticeable, I didn't notice anyways, if anything I'd hare thought it was an older sculpt due to how drastic the front end looks. Now I have no interest in the character so I won't be buying it, but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't tempted simply by how cool he looks.

Personally speaking I think if they're going to make Prime characters they should probably stick to the aesthetic of the show and stay true the the character look. Although I guess by doing this they can sell it to a broader audience?

Thanks for the heads up on Amazon pre-orders going live. Put one down for Tarantulas.

Can't wait for an Inferno reveal!

well, I think we can all look at Tr Galvatron and say his head could have been worse hahahah (even if its still better figure than the recent one)

https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/product/act ... KhY3xwev58

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:I wouldve loved an animated blitzwing done right
They could've even given different colored blast effects to mimic the fire and ice thing

There's always the red and blue ones that came with the Tricranius set.

And, are blast effects even a thing anymore in Legacy?

Very true, but no three faces or double turret tank. Closest thing would be if an upgrade kit comes out but even then

Good point, I'm not sure that they are. The rereleases will still be bloosh compatible as emgo would say, but im not sure about the rest

the death of blast effects has been exaggerated.




Add to that the erroneous ideas about the reliability of Hasbro Pulse, and it's been one of those days.

Thoughts on yesterday's reveals:

Tarantulas: Looks great, even with his weird arm proportions. The inclusion of his transmetal pizza slicer buzz saw is super awesome. Bought on sight, and likely the only purchase from this wave.

Elita 1: If you're reading this, Hasbro, please retool this into Arcee. It would be perfect. This is exactly what I've wanted from a fembot mold for years, one that actually incorporates the alt mode into the bot mode and doesn't just have a ridiculous backpack (even if this still has one). Probably won't get Elita 1, but this makes me super excited for Minerva. Come on Hasbro, just milk this mold. You know you want to.

...That being said, are we sure this mold was made to be Minerva first and foremost? The alt mode and robot details are nothing like Minerva's, and if the recent Wreckers comic is anything to go by, only the head is getting retooled. It looks to me more like Elita 1 was the one this mold was designed for, and Minerva is just the headswap retool, with the shoulder pylons being designed in to make the mold more versatile.

Knockout: Pretty much as expected, and about as expectedly underwhelming. It is what it is, and what it is isn't for me. To quote something I read elsewhere a while ago, "these aren't Prime toys for Prime fans, they're Prime toys for G1 fans to put on their G1 shelves." And that's unfortunate, as the "G1-ification" just ends up stripping most of the personality from Knockout's design. At least he still has his gold rims (props to Hasbro for that).

Wildrider: Looks solid, though he's certainly got quite a backpack. Alt mode is great.

Jihaxus: I'm not really familiar with his character so I don't know how accurate this is, but he looks like a good mold. Articulated hands are an unexpected touch. His deco is pretty ugly, though; those huge swaths of white really need something to break them up (but again, maybe that's accurate, it's G2 after all).

Soundwave: Genuinely shocked it's not the Netflix mold. Hot take: other than the clean chest door, this version is a downgrade from Siege. The silver paint pairs reeeaaly well with the dark blue plastic, and this version just has less of that beautifully contrasting silver.

Motormaster: Looks absolutely fantastic. I really hope he ends up being CW compatible, because it would be a 200 IQ move that would nullify all complaints about how much G1-accurate Menasor sucks. This also has me excited to see what they could do with a commander class Armada Prime.

Tuned Agent wrote:Thoughts on yesterday's reveals:

...That being said, are we sure this mold was made to be Minerva first and foremost? The alt mode and robot details are nothing like Minerva's, and if the recent Wreckers comic is anything to go by, only the head is getting retooled. It looks to me more like Elita 1 was the one this mold was designed for, and Minerva is just the headswap retool, with the shoulder pylons being designed in to make the mold more versatile.

Although I stated the mold was seemingly a premold of Minerva, someone at Allspark mentioned the alt mode is a good first step at a more authentic E1, and much closer to her cartoon model than previous iterations.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Agh! $124.99 on Amazon.ca for Motormaster...those are Commander-class prices!

*edit* I'm an idiot. I thought he was Leaderclass, my bad.

Why don't you buy it at Toys R Us for 150$CAN instead?

Seriously, TrU will never get my business ever again.

Looking back, the initial listing for Soundwave was pretty clear:

Legacy Evolution

Core: Optimus Prime
Deluxe: Wild Rider, Elita 1, Ko Prime, Tarantulas
Voyager: Jhiaxus, S Soundwave Pr
Leader: Blitzwing, Galvatron, Optimus Prime

S Soundwave PR can only mean Siege Soundwave package refresh.
Anyone expecting more was setting themselves up for massive disappointment. And for anyone saying "I get it, but I still hoped" well that hope was indeed just undiscovered disappointment.

Also, unless I missed one, all toys designated as PR are only labeled as such when they are a package refresh of a toy previously available in a non exclusive line.

Can someone help me out here? I'm reading online that the presentation helped some understand how Wild Rider's backpack was necessary for the combining component. HOW? I took the opposite message from the presentation. Seeing that all that was needed was for the car to lie flat and have some plug in holes, there was very little in the way of limiting the robot mode's look. They could have made a transformation where the wheels do end up on the shoulders.

i'm just glad they got rid of that "hover board" and she's a car again for Elita-1. reason why i never bought her WFC toy was because of that "hover board".

william-james88 wrote:Can someone help me out here? I'm reading online that the presentation helped some understand how Wild Rider's backpack was necessary for the combining component. HOW? I took the opposite message from the presentation. Seeing that all that was needed was for the car to lie flat and have some plug in holes, there was very little in the way of limiting the robot mode's look. They could have made a transformation where the wheels do end up on the shoulders.

The front third of the car bends at a 90 degree angle to become the back half of the foot. If the wheels were on the shoulders, then they would have needed to have the arms form from the engine block, and the doors would have to be backpack wings anyways to replace no longer having those kibble panels on the arms.

alekese wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Can someone help me out here? I'm reading online that the presentation helped some understand how Wild Rider's backpack was necessary for the combining component. HOW? I took the opposite message from the presentation. Seeing that all that was needed was for the car to lie flat and have some plug in holes, there was very little in the way of limiting the robot mode's look. They could have made a transformation where the wheels do end up on the shoulders.

The front third of the car bends at a 90 degree angle to become the back half of the foot. If the wheels were on the shoulders, then they would have needed to have the arms form from the engine block, and the doors would have to be backpack wings anyways to replace no longer having those kibble panels on the arms.

Thanks!

Two images popped up online of Transformers toys in new decos which do not appear to be customs (meaning the plastic colour is different). One is a redeco of Titans Return Twin Twist and the other is a redeco of the Kingdom Waspinator mold using the mutant head. While tey appear random at first, we recall this bit of news from a little while ago which I am posting here as a refresher:

william-james88 wrote:It is a Wreckers themed line that will include two packs and the like. The Wreckers will all be redecos of previously released toys but there will be new tooling found on 2 fossilizers. Here is a breakdown of the characters rumoured to be in that line:

Deluxe Impactor redeco
Deluxe Leadfoot ( from kingdom mirage)
Deluxe Topspin
Deluxe Twintwist
Voyager Springer redeco
Voyager Bulkhead redeco
Fossilizer Mammoth
Fossilizer Spinosaurus

It is also rumoured that the jumpstarters will not have their traditional colours.

As rumoured, that Twin Twist toy does not have traditional colours and rather has the Diaclone colours (image of vintage toy in box below).Speaking of Diaclone, the villains were the Waruders, which Botcon had already given us using the older Waspinator mold. Well, this purple redeco could be a Waruder to match that theme. It's not for certain if these will all be released in the same subline or not.




Transformers BotCon Exclusives Waruder Parasite Drone Gallery

Otherwise known as Beast Wars Skywasp.

Lots to catch up on, I haven't been to this thread in almost 3 weeks.

so, let's start with the reveals:

Wildrider: this one got my hopes up for the Stunticons. I actually really like how this one looks. i will get this one.

Elita: She doesn't really appeal to me, I love the PotP one. I look forward to the mold as Minerva though.

Tarantulas: It looks like a good toy. It took me a day to figure it out, but it doesn't really appeal to me as much as I had hoped it would, and that is because the Transmetal look is THE look for me. It's odd to see him back in his season 1 body. Doesn't help that Sins of the Wreckers made his TM form his main mode but still gave him a fully organic beast mode.

Knockout: this one really bothers me. Prime Arcee ended up working as a Prime figure mostly, and is a pretty nice figure. Bulkhead is not the Prime character to me, the head and wrecking ball are about the only things that work for me as that character. Knockout falls into the Bulkhead status. He needed a new mold. He is too bulky/square, and the head sculpt is a disappointment. He's the wrong shape for Knockout, and simplifies some of his most distinct features. for me, Knockout is another victim of G1-ification, and it sucks to see him done dirty this way.

Jhiaxus: I enjoy this one a good bit. He feels too skinny though. he seems off somehow. That headsculpt is utterly wonderful though.

Soundwave: don't care.

Blitzwing: he ugly.

Motormaster: this one wiped out the goodwill I had towards the Stunticons after seeing Wildrider. I just don't like him that much. Too much cartoon, which is OK, I'm not the audience for him.

Now, as for wave 1 figures, I got Arcee, Ignuanus, and Bulkhead.

I got Arcee first. She is actually quite adorable and fun. The aesthetic changes hinder her as a Prime figure, but her design is pretty good. Transformation is really good, they nailed that. I wish I could give her her wings without having to put the wheels on her back too, but it's necessary since I will not use those wheels as a gun. Overall, very nice, I like her.

Iguanus is as good as I could have hoped. He's so posable too! I love this lizard man, they understood the assignment and they killed it. I look forward to more Pretenders like this.

Bulkhead isn't too bad. He is not the Prime guy to me, it just doesn't work. But I'm thinking he can be my Wrecker Bulkhead, giving him a spot to go. I think a lot of my issues with the guy would be resolved if he wasn't explicitly called "Prime universe Bulkhead." He seems like a good figure. joints are pretty stiff too, so he can hold those poses really well. Hoping we can maybe get Pyro from him. That's a Wrecker I need.

Sabrblade wrote:Otherwise known as Beast Wars Skywasp.

This conflicts with my headcanon of Kingdom Skywarp being the G1 guy who switched sides

primalxconvoy wrote:

Elita 1.jpg

That's not Elita's real cartoon model. It's a fanmade one.

This is (a preliminary version of) her real one:

Autobot N wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Otherwise known as Beast Wars Skywasp.

This conflicts with my headcanon of Kingdom Skywarp being the G1 guy who switched sides

Why? Skywasp isn't G1 Skywarp. He's a Predacon analogue, like what BW Megatron and BWII Starscream are to G1 Megatron and Starscream.