Gallery and Video for Transformers Earthrise Reveals and Hasbro Panel from #NYCC2019

Sabrblade wrote:I didn't notice until now that Optimus has that stupid silver stripe on each of his arms that both MP-1/MP-4 and MP-10 had but which he never had in either the G1 cartoon or comics. His truck mode didn't even have that silver stripe most of the time in the cartoon, so I'd rather they got rid of it altogether if it meant each of arms wouldn't have to have that stupid stripe.

Deadput wrote:That Cliffjumper is bigger then the legend sized versions of the minibots we have been getting for the last few years right?

If so...god damn it, it won't feel right having a Cliffjumper that is bigger then Bee, Brawn and the other minibots in the collection.

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

Like is part 3 going to be in the future or something? (The movie and season 3 era)

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

sol magnus wrote:Is Prime really going to have silver hands, or is this just for pre-production...

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Cyberpath wrote:And I agree with @Sabrblade about the stripes. Instead of of that paint app I'd finish the yellow paint on his pelvis, and blue on crotch.
I'm not too fond of the grey app on the air intake either. But that's just a small annoyance.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.

Cyberpath wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Is Prime really going to have silver hands, or is this just for pre-production...

Not just the hands but the inner lower legs and elbow joints as well. Honestly the final deco makes an otherwise good-looking figure look like a KO.



And I agree with @Sabrblade about the stripes. Instead of of that paint app I'd finish the yellow paint on his pelvis, and blue on crotch.
I'm not too fond of the grey app on the air intake either. But that's just a small annoyance.




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Stargrave wrote:Hoist can tow characters or attach to your mini cities and his robot mode can become a bridge like he did in G1.

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, it bothered me on the first two MP Convoys and it still bothers me.

After all these years, I'm still amazed that no one has ever tried making a G1 Optimus toy that transforms like the CG Optimus seen in the Kid Rhino G1 Season 2 DVD menus. IIRC, that one transformed from a show-accurate robot mode to a convincingly-realistic truck mode without any cheating or over-complexity.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.

Do you not remember the whole ordeal with the Omega Lock? Main characters even killed each other over that.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.

Do you not remember the whole ordeal with the Omega Lock? Main characters even killed each other over that.

That came later. At the start of the show they dont seem to be battling for control of cybertron.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.

Do you not remember the whole ordeal with the Omega Lock? Main characters even killed each other over that.

That came later. At the start of the show they dont seem to be battling for control of cybertron.

That's because there was no war at the beginning, only minor skirmishes. The Decepticons had been MIA for three years prior to the first episode, and Optimus states in Episode 6 that the war had ended a long time ago. As the series progressed, later events reignited Megatron's desire to control Cybertron as new means to both revitalize it and dominate it came into being.

Stargrave wrote:This much fan service and a Prime trailer with no Roller? I bet that means we’ll get a cool Masterversion of him or ‘hopehopebeyondhope’ the IDW version

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Sabrblade wrote:I didn't notice until now that Optimus has that stupid silver stripe on each of his arms that both MP-1/MP-4 and MP-10 had but which he never had in either the G1 cartoon or comics. His truck mode didn't even have that silver stripe most of the time in the cartoon, so I'd rather they got rid of it altogether if it meant each of arms wouldn't have to have that stupid stripe.

Cobotron wrote:Maybe they will give us a Micromaster Roller. He would be a cool candidate for a Weaponizer too. Makes a lot of sense for him to become weapons and armor for the big boss man.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)

AcademyofDrX wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)

Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.

ZeroWolf wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)

Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.

I think they still take kids into consideration with generations as they've said collectors are only 30% (which is bigger then I thought) so there's still the parents who'll be potentially buying these for their kids.

Also with the recent reveal of Cyberverse Deluxes, I'd argue they are making more of an effort to pull collectors in with that line as well now (just waiting for them to do generations styled rescue bots)

AcademyofDrX wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)

Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)

Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.

This is false. Hasbro said to their investors that fans aged 10 and up consist of 30%. They never gave numbers regarding people 18+. John Warden said the audience for the generations line is still predominantly kids. A leader optimus is mandated by the higher ups along with the idea of having differently coloured bots in a wave. These are decisions made in kid oriented lines.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I've alwayd liked the idea of Megatron refusing an Earth mode because he feels he's above it

Sabrblade wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I've alwayd liked the idea of Megatron refusing an Earth mode because he feels he's above it

In that case, just reissue the already-Cybertronian-altmoded Siege Megatron in Earthrise.

leokearon wrote:If they do the other basic original Micromaster bases, who should they do next>

Hothouse's Fire Station


Greasepit's Petrol Station


Airwave's Airport


Personally I would like to see Greasepit's Petrol Station

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I've alwayd liked the idea of Megatron refusing an Earth mode because he feels he's above it

In that case, just reissue the already-Cybertronian-altmoded Siege Megatron in Earthrise.

Hey maybe they'll throw a curveball and Earthrise Megatron will be based off this:

Or maybe this?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, thinking about potential Megatron designs for this line, and what if they don't give him an Earth mode and instead give him something like a mix between Animated's Cybertronian mode Megs and Prime's design for Megs? I've always liked the idea of Megatron refusing an Earth mode because he feels he's above it

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Still no Motormaster though? You would have thought a retool of SIEGE Magnus, Galaxy Prime or Earthrise would have been a no brainer. A reimagining too. Leader Class Decepticon Motormaster - unaffiliated with the Stunticons.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which is part of the problem. Some people are too fixated on OLD ideas. The Constructicons in Animated are a great example of reinvention. Did they have a significant presence in the show? Yes. Were they Devastator? NO. Swindle was another.

It also indicates some people don't see any value in the individuals of a Combiner Team, they only want the Gestalt. Which is such a wasteful, limited perspective. No wonder Transformers is stuck in a rut of recycling the same 15+ 80's characters.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which is part of the problem. Some people are too fixated on OLD ideas. The Constructicons in Animated are a great example of reinvention. Did they have a significant presence in the show? Yes. Were they Devastator? NO.

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which is part of the problem. Some people are too fixated on OLD ideas. The Constructicons in Animated are a great example of reinvention. Did they have a significant presence in the show? Yes. Were they Devastator? NO.

They were going to be, though.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which is part of the problem. Some people are too fixated on OLD ideas. The Constructicons in Animated are a great example of reinvention. Did they have a significant presence in the show? Yes. Were they Devastator? NO. Swindle was another.

It also indicates some people don't see any value in the individuals of a Combiner Team, they only want the Gestalt. Which is such a wasteful, limited perspective. No wonder Transformers is stuck in a rut of recycling the same 15+ 80's characters.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:they could ditch the tired recycled designs and give Megatron something previously unmade/unused in fiction...

Skritz wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:they could ditch the tired recycled designs and give Megatron something previously unmade/unused in fiction...

Not in this line, buddy. Or any future line with this current design team.