Flame Toys Announce Kuro Kara Kuri Jazz and God Power Jet Armour, Full Colour Victory Saber

This Victory Saber is no longer a Transformers.

It's a GODDAMN GUNDAM!

...and I love it.

-Kanrabat- wrote:This Victory Saber is no longer a Transformers.

It's a GODDAMN GUNDAM!

...and I love it.

I was thinking more its joined the Brave series! It's Genesic GaoGai Victory Saber Gar!

Jazz is looking superb, would love s Generations figure of that design

Only way to describe this is...

Oh, My, God, this is AMAZING! Frick YEAH!

Victory Saber looks awesome.Make me wish more fiction would follow these characters
Jazz also has been drinking the Gundam juice it seems.

Day 206 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

I must admit, I didn't really like Jazz when he was first revealed, But he's kinda grown on me now.
Hopefully they'll downsize it into a Furai model at some point.

TulioDude wrote:Jazz also has been drinking the Gundam juice it seems.

Day 206 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

I, for one, don’t mind Gundam Jazz. He looks like the Siege toy that we never got.

Gosh, that Victory Saber is downright beautiful! Guess it's time to pull the trigger on Star Saber.

Also, I wonder if that jet pack from Prime is an alternate item, or if they will release Prime with the kit. Doesn't look like it forms another robot or anything. And I really want to see it in color, it is so the RotF/G1 Prime crossover figure.

I too want more info on the Rodimus Furai kit. and it's also interesting that they completely redesigned the Kura Kara Kuri, it was based on the 2009 ongoing rodimus design, and now it's the MTMTE Rodimus base design.

Jazz looks really cool. But I wonder about him, since he really seems to have a majority of Prime's legs.

Flame Toys has posted an image of an updated Windblade design.
https://twitter.com/flametoys_staff/sta ... 85601?s=19

AcademyofDrX wrote:Flame Toys has posted an image of an updated Windblade design.
https://twitter.com/flametoys_staff/sta ... 85601?s=19

Eh... I liked the butterfly wing design better. It made her stand out from other Windblade designs. And the waist area being more angular is annoying. Still gonna get this.

Hard to tell from the picture, but at least her wings are bigger.
Religious outrage aside, I think the main criticism was that Windblade looked more like a human girl wearing a costume than a transformers. If the uncanny valley is being dealt with, it's great.

Depend on how she turn out, this may be the first Flames kit I'll buy.

Judging by the comments, both sides are claiming victory

ZeroWolf wrote:Judging by the comments, both sides are claiming victory

If the puritains celebrate, then I'm glad. Maybe, just maybe they will now shut up.
But I don't get my hopes up. They will STILL have something to whine about.
...Well, same thing with the standard fan I guess!

One thing I REALLY love about the whiny virtue-signaling outrage mobs. Thanks to them, I discovered so many cool and fun things that I would never have known existed if they'd just kept their mouth shut. So again, thank you for your hard work as free advertisers, dear Outraged Puritains!

(Kinda remind me of the Karen meme, which was something totally obscure until some Twitter puritan "influencer" took notice loudly.)

Eh, I honestly preferred the original design. The wings were far more interesting, kinda resembled a bow.

Black Hat wrote:Eh, I honestly preferred the original design. The wings were far more interesting, kinda resembled a bow.

Hasbro could have easily asked for that change wanting her to resemble her evergreen self for brand recognition. In fact despite the outrage over the outage, I think Hasbro was more the driving force behind changes.

Looks like Windblade will stand out like a bland sore thumb compared to the other stylised designs, but I guess as long as her bewbs and butt doesnt stick out then yay?

Will be nice to see the model over the picture, only kit I havent liked so far is the Primal but Windblade is looking too close to a generations figure at the mo for me to be interested in it -I'd rather hunt down a hasbro TR Windblade.

Furai Windblade isn't sexy enough so you'd rather pay $50 extra for the blocky Titans Return figure?? I mean, do what makes you happy, but I don't get your reasoning. The T30 Generations figure is more stylized and cheaper.

I don't think the redesign goes too far enough, but I'm now leaning toward getting it, though I'll wait for the final physical design to commit. I haven't liked how FT has managed their self-inflicted controversy but I'm not personally at the point where I'm going to drop their products.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Furai Windblade isn't sexy enough so you'd rather pay $50 extra for the blocky Titans Return figure?? I mean, do what makes you happy, but I don't get your reasoning. The T30 Generations figure is more stylized and cheaper.

I'm not bothered about Arcee being sexy, she's a bot, I'd just like it to have a little bit of flair and style. The new design does look an improvemnt over it looking too human. The old wings were better and this version doesnt seem to have any stylising that ties in with the other kits until the physical product is shown. I prefer jet vehicles to have working cockpits so TR over the generations figure even if it's going to be pricier.

Fair enough. I happen to really like the TR figure, especially compared to the early one. It can stand on its own and the alt-mode is more stable, too. I'm disappointed that after starring turns in RiD and Cyberverse she's MIA in WfC so far, but I'm sure there will be another Generations toy before too long, even if it's unlikely for her to appear in Kingdom.

I do wonder how a more "G1" classic style would look on a Earthrise Windblade?

I think the wings are better. No matter who the TF is, I really dislike it when the alt. mode is practically eradicated from the bot mode. I mean if it can actually work, then it's fine, but the figure shouldn't look like it transforms magically.

But, really? That wasn't the biggest problem area and I think we all know it.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:But, really? That wasn't the biggest problem area and I think we all know it.

The biggest "problem area" was Frank and chums crying about people liking something they didn't.

Black Hat wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:But, really? That wasn't the biggest problem area and I think we all know it.

The biggest "problem area" was Frank and chums crying about people liking something they didn't.

I just think it was badly sculpted there. I get the effect they were going for, but the effect was weird.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:But, really? That wasn't the biggest problem area and I think we all know it.

The biggest "problem area" was Frank and chums crying about people liking something they didn't.

I just think it was badly sculpted there. I get the effect they were going for, but the effect was weird.

As a lone figure, it was absolutely fantastic. But as Windblade, it didn't work.

I think this looks better, but they only really halfway fixed the look. I would have preferred some more body work done and kept the wings as is, they were neat, even if i do prefer this winged look

Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron users, AcademyofDrX, -WonkoTheSane- and Rodimus Knight have let us knkw that Flame Toys have taken to Twitter to show off the updated Windblade design for their Furai model kit range.



Unlike the previous design, this one retains her wings as as seen on all her over appearances, since she first debuted.

What do you think of this update? Will you be getting her to add to your Transformers model collection? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

Wait. The previous post was not an official news? That took a while.

Well, it's vacation season after all.

Glad she had her wings so she can still have that Transformer heritage to her, especially since she looked naked without them.

I'm wondering if the larger wings are the only change or if they did additional ones.
Since Cyberverse had her able to near fully retract her wings, I think it would be cool if they had both sets they designed with this model included.

Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.

Black Hat wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.

My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

I don’t want to restart this discourse, and I don’t mean to instigate or anything. I can promise I’m not some closeted misogynist (I mean heck I’ve got figures of Lara Croft, Bayonetta), I just believe there’s a space for everything, and I personally believe sex should not be a Transformers selling point.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.

My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Kids are unlikely to be buying expensive collector's grade model kits. "Think of the children" is not a valid argument.

I don’t want to restart this discourse, and I don’t mean to instigate or anything. I can promise I’m not some closeted misogynist (I mean heck I’ve got figures of Lara Croft, Bayonetta), I just believe there’s a space for everything, and I personally believe sex should (not?) be a Transformers selling point.

Why not? In kids' cartoons I'd agree, but for figures or media aimed at older fans, there is literally nothing wrong with a little bit of flirtiness here and there.

Looks like it's time again to pretend this thread doesn't exist.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Looks like it's time again to pretend this thread doesn't exist.

Amen.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Not going to pull your opinion apart, but I do wonder what you mean by "media accurate"? Of the 23 announced and released kits the only ones that are accurate to anything are IDW Optimus and his three recolors (clear, Nemesis and UM), IDW Megatron and his slight retool (Autobot and Decepticon), G1 Optimus Prime, IDW Drift and IDW Rodimus. There's really no need for Windblade to be "media accurate" when nearly 2/3 of the current lot are not.

Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one, but I did want more jet parts and better wings and that's what I got from this new design. Honestly I think they should make both kits, but since that isn't like I wouldn't be surprised at all if Takara Tomy made some use of the previous design elsewhere since Hasbro backed away from it. In hindsight, it probably wasn't a great idea to go to get a sculpt done by someone known for his statues of naked anime girls (link is safe for work, just don't click on the thumbnails ).

BTW, he commented on the changes on Twitter (wont be linking to that, definitely NSFW).

(Google translation) Due to the intention of the copyright owners, the parts and color scheme have been re-corrected to better reflect the original character's design.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one,

Emerje

That was my main issue with the OG design. As if a Kotobukiya frame arms girl snuck her way into the Flame Toys model kit line.

The new design look much more like a real Transformers. However, I'll wait for the actual prototype to truly judge. The guys have some crazy designs going for them so if that Windblade end up looking "too normal", it will be disappointing.

Emerje wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Not going to pull your opinion apart, but I do wonder what you mean by "media accurate"? Of the 23 announced and released kits the only ones that are accurate to anything are IDW Optimus and his three recolors (clear, Nemesis and UM), IDW Megatron and his slight retool (Autobot and Decepticon), G1 Optimus Prime, IDW Drift and IDW Rodimus. There's really no need for Windblade to be "media accurate" when nearly 2/3 of the current lot are not.

Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one, but I did want more jet parts and better wings and that's what I got from this new design. Honestly I think they should make both kits, but since that isn't like I wouldn't be surprised at all if Takara Tomy made some use of the previous design elsewhere since Hasbro backed away from it. In hindsight, it probably wasn't a great idea to go to get a sculpt done by someone known for his statues of naked anime girls (link is safe for work, just don't click on the thumbnails ).

BTW, he commented on the changes on Twitter (wont be linking to that, definitely NSFW).

(Google translation) Due to the intention of the copyright owners, the parts and color scheme have been re-corrected to better reflect the original character's design.

Emerje

Lol, nice (shameless?) plug.

On topic with this, I do agree with your comments regarding the initial design of Flame Toys Windblade not feeling quite Transformery; granted, the proportions of some designs don't make them feel quite right either, but they at least had some parts that would be recognizable from their vehicle mode. The lack of wings almost felt like accessories that were missing out of the box. Best example is if I ever got an Earthrise Starscream but he's missing one of the wings.

Not quoting but a wingless Starscream would look incomplete and weird as Hell.

Greetings Seibertronians! Following the last batch of pictures that revealed, for the first time in colour, the combination of Flame Toys Kuro Kara Kuri Star Saber and Victory Leo, Flame Toys have taken to their social media account to unleash more images of this stunning combination, Kuro Kara Kuri Victory Saber!

















That's not all, sticking with their twitter account, Flane Toys announced a price and release date for Kuro Kara Kuri Victory Leo! Letting fans know when they can create Victory Saber for themselves!

Flame Toys wrote:The pre-order of [Kuro Kara Kuri] Victory Leo start from today !!!

***Product information***

Price : US$400
Estimate Delivery : April, 2021
Size : ~16cm height, 23cm long

- It can combine with Star Saber to become Victory Saber !
- It is fully articulated figure with over 120 articulated positions !
- Super-poseable with diecast parts for solidity and heaviness!
- LED lighting effect on eyes and mouth !

※Star Saber is not included

Both Star Saber and Victory Leo in the Kuro Kara Kuri line are non-transforming premium figures.

What do you think of these high end, non-transforming action figures? Will you be preordering? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

Nice looking Gundam figures.

madhatter090 wrote:Nice looking Gundam figures.

My thought exactly.
Still, the original G1 design is pretty "gundamish" so it get a pass.

Those figures are damn epic! And the price too...

You say Gundam, but Victory Saber is basically homaging Gaogaigar

ThunderThruster wrote:You say Gundam, but Victory Saber is basically homaging Gaogaigar

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Came here to basically say that.

Looks damned nice though!

~ Grim

No offence guys but I think you'll find it's a design coming full circle as G1 Victory Saber influenced the Brave Series (being done by the same people after all) of which Genesic GaoGaiGar was the last...

Though its now amusing to think that despite all the work they put into it, the brave series would come to be owned by Bandai

ZeroWolf wrote:No offence guys but I think you'll find it's a design coming full circle as G1 Victory Saber influenced the Brave Series (being done by the same people after all) of which Genesic GaoGaiGar was the last...

Though its now amusing to think that despite all the work they put into it, the brave series would come to be owned by Bandai

And Bandai make Gundam.

At this point, it's no longer a circle. It's an ouroboros.

Bandai own all the best non-tf mecha

Would still kill for a proper gundam x Transformers story mind. O can see humans building mobile suits to fight Cybertronians on an equal footing.

ZeroWolf wrote:Bandai own all the best non-tf mecha

Would still kill for a proper gundam x Transformers story mind. O can see humans building mobile suits to fight Cybertronians on an equal footing.

Well, close enough...

Eh, I honestly don't much care for crossovers. Unless they're very silly, or tongue-in-cheek oneshots, I find them kinda hokey. They can work- Space Patrol Luluco having the characters meet other Trigger anime denizens like Sucy, INFERNO COP and so on was funny as hell, but none of those shows were meant to be serious.

Anyway.

Victory Sabre looks amazing! I know it's not Victory accurate but having the lion chest really makes him look even more awesome. I always thought the standard "platform shoes and a backpack" setup was kind of boring so this is a change for the better.