First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Core Class Rattrap

I just submitted this video to news since I hadn't seen it front paged. Them after I hit submit the page refreshed and it was up already. oh well lol

On the figure side though. I am really not a fan of this, I think that I will be saving a lot of money this coming year if half the figures are BW. Does anyone else find it strange that we basically know of every figure that will be released in the kingdom line and ER has not even ended yet?

That looks pretty good! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the Beasts.

LinaNui wrote:I just submitted this video to news since I hadn't seen it front paged. Them after I hit submit the page refreshed and it was up already. oh well lol

On the figure side though. I am really not a fan of this, I think that I will be saving a lot of money this coming year if half the figures are BW. Does anyone else find it strange that we basically know of every figure that will be released in the kingdom line and ER has not even ended yet?

I did too, in the reviews section. oops oh well

LinaNui wrote:I just submitted this video to news since I hadn't seen it front paged. Them after I hit submit the page refreshed and it was up already. oh well lol

On the figure side though. I am really not a fan of this, I think that I will be saving a lot of money this coming year if half the figures are BW. Does anyone else find it strange that we basically know of every figure that will be released in the kingdom line and ER has not even ended yet?

To be fair, this isn't the first time it's happened. Titan's Returns and Power of the Primes was also heavy set with leaks. I did think they had a handle on it after PotP but looks like I was wrong.

Anyway, I'm loving Rattrap and if the rest of the bessts are just as well handled (assuming good QC) then I think its going to be quite a year for me.

I'm looking forward to a comparison between this and T30 Rattrap.

Okay, I’m impressed. I figured the Core class was going to be something naff like the Prime Masters on their own, but this Rattrap has me converted (lol, geddit). If this is any indication of how Kingdom will turn out I might actually go in for some of the line as opposed to the holes left like Inferno, Tracks, and the Minibots left.

For those curious:

Transformers Generations Rattrap Gallery

This is T30 Rattrap who would likely tower over Kingdom Rattrap

Looks pretty nice, especially for the size. T30 looks to be the better toy overall but this is like a third of the size, so oh well. Looks like he needs better paint though, IMO anyway.

Best Rattrap is still the Transmetal mold, AKA the Rat Rod.

What a shame.. to go from a great WFC line, with Siege and Earthrise, to this. This guy just looks cheap, and brings down the line overall. If they wanted another BW line, they should have kept it separate from WFC.

transformers_va wrote:What a shame.. to go from a great WFC line, with Siege and Earthrise, to this. This guy just looks cheap, and brings down the line overall. If they wanted another BW line, they should have kept it separate from WFC.

But they'll be making G1 toys in this size class too.

This video was fun to watch!

Rattrap looks pretty good. I want a more fun organic rat mode Rattrap, and this looks like the one! Crazy to think I'll have 3 Rattraps. he wasn't my favorite character, but he was still really good and enjoyable, so he is deserving of the 3 toys in my collection he'll have!

I'm also very appreciative of the smaller sizes. I've come to realize I am really good with the downsizing of the figures since more can fit on a shelf to make a better looking army, and it makes the bigger guys actually seem bigger. I'm cool with it!

transformers_va wrote:What a shame.. to go from a great WFC line, with Siege and Earthrise, to this. This guy just looks cheap, and brings down the line overall. If they wanted another BW line, they should have kept it separate from WFC.

I could not disagree more.

FINALLY adding Beast Wars? This is finally starting to put the "s" back in "Generations". The line should not be 95% G1 with a random callout or 2 thrown in. Make it like this, 50% G1/50% BW, and continue that diversity.

Transformers should be like Marvel Legends, and this is at long last a step in the right direction, a step that was made in Thrilling 30 and then stagnated, and now is finally headed that way again.

transformers_va wrote:What a shame.. to go from a great WFC line, with Siege and Earthrise, to this. This guy just looks cheap, and brings down the line overall. If they wanted another BW line, they should have kept it separate from WFC.

this is a legend class dude at legend class price, don't expect it to be perfect

I'm not expecting perfection by any means, but I think these will stick out like a sore thumb, not fitting in well with the rest of the WFC line

This Rattrap has already the advantage of not having rat ears obscuring his vision.

transformers_va wrote:What a shame.. to go from a great WFC line, with Siege and Earthrise, to this. This guy just looks cheap, and brings down the line overall. If they wanted another BW line, they should have kept it separate from WFC.

Really? For the size class I thought they did a bang up job!

I'll definitely be getting this.

Okay, I can't be the only one thinking this... but does it look like Mr Trap's rat mode has been sniffing some of the 'white stuff' ?

transformers_va wrote:What a shame.. to go from a great WFC line, with Siege and Earthrise, to this. This guy just looks cheap, and brings down the line overall. If they wanted another BW line, they should have kept it separate from WFC.

Compared to the Siege/ER two micromasters in a pack that it is replacing it doesn't feel cheap and is somewhat of an improvement. Just don't compare it to old beast wars figures that had metal springs and mechanic doohickys at half the price.

Comparison:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I could not disagree more.

FINALLY adding Beast Wars? This is finally starting to put the "s" back in "Generations". The line should not be 95% G1 with a random callout or 2 thrown in. Make it like this, 50% G1/50% BW, and continue that diversity.

And I cannot disagree with THIS more.

I think their sales will show that those who were keen on the G1 asthetic, will not be keen on the BW characters. There are so many great WFC releases to date, and this just feels like a letdown.

transformers_va wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I could not disagree more.

FINALLY adding Beast Wars? This is finally starting to put the "s" back in "Generations". The line should not be 95% G1 with a random callout or 2 thrown in. Make it like this, 50% G1/50% BW, and continue that diversity.

And I cannot disagree with THIS more.

I think their sales will show that those who were keen on the G1 asthetic, will not be keen on the BW characters. There are so many great WFC releases to date, and this just feels like a letdown.

Trukk not Munky!!!

Another comparison for mid transformation and the origional rattrap

Sabrblade wrote:

transformers_va wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I could not disagree more.

FINALLY adding Beast Wars? This is finally starting to put the "s" back in "Generations". The line should not be 95% G1 with a random callout or 2 thrown in. Make it like this, 50% G1/50% BW, and continue that diversity.

And I cannot disagree with THIS more.

I think their sales will show that those who were keen on the G1 asthetic, will not be keen on the BW characters. There are so many great WFC releases to date, and this just feels like a letdown.

Trukk not Munky!!!

Yeah, I'm generally a Trukk not Munky type, but I'm actually loving the OG Beast Wars cast being made in conjunction with WFC. The Rattrap itself gives me hope for aesthetically improved versions of the 90s figures, which I had all of them. I know the gimmicks will be gone, but that's easy to overlook (for me).

Sabrblade wrote:Trukk not Munky!!!

I have no problems with the BW line, and I understand a lot of people like it. My point was that the 2 lines shouldn't have been combined, and instead should have been done separately

transformers_va wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Trukk not Munky!!!

I have no problems with the BW line, and I understand a lot of people like it. My point was that the 2 lines shouldn't have been combined, and instead should have been done separately

Pretend the beast figures have a different line name on the box. Problem solved.

I'm mainly G1 but loved beast wars (also cos I prefer vehicles to animals as alt mode in g1 too) - I do think BW are trickier to get right as they went the organic alt mode route. I have a couple of the generations figures including rattrap and this looks better in spite of its size. Will probably get it and get the other BW figures depending on how good they did their job...

Personally I prefer the transmetal/robotic look for beastformers, but this is still a good looking figure of the "fur coat" look. That said, any arthropod figures I'm eagerly anticipating, especially if they're done this well.

transformers_va wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Trukk not Munky!!!

I have no problems with the BW line, and I understand a lot of people like it. My point was that the 2 lines shouldn't have been combined, and instead should have been done separately

It's a line where Autobots and Decepticons time-travel to join in the Beast Wars. How else were they going to do that?

Posting to subscribe, cause it's kinda my job.

ARRRRRGH! So on the fence with Kingdom. I don't feel the OG BW toys need an update. The original toys are pure gold! But oddly enough I think that Rat Trap looks great! Good sculpt, good articulation, and the right size. Oddly enough I never had the first Rat Trap so, fill in the gap with this new version, or go hunting for an old one. Or just do nothing at all.

While I'm irked at these leaks, because I like the suspense and anticipation of not knowing, I am excited to see how these Kingdom toys shake out. Whether I dive in or not.

Unless I missed it, I seem to be the only person who doesn't like his shoulder joints! I've had other figures ( I'm old, can't remember who) but having the pegs face that way just makes turned me awkward to do anything with. Hope it's not like that

Cheetron wrote:Unless I missed it, I seem to be the only person who doesn't like his shoulder joints! I've had other figures ( I'm old, can't remember who) but having the pegs face that way just makes turned me awkward to do anything with. Hope it's not like that

I'm not fond of it either, but I see that they did them that way in order to give his shoulders their correct appearance at such a small size.

Oh damn, I hadn't noticed the weird shoulder setup. Hope he's not majorly limited by that.

Black Hat wrote:Oh damn, I hadn't noticed the weird shoulder setup. Hope he's not majorly limited by that.

I think he's got slots on the sides of them to let the arms still have some degree of natural movement while in that position.

Rattrap looks so good! (For a $10 legends sized figure ) Glad he has his gun, and everything that makes him Rattrap. Not too keen on the feet, but honestly considering how clean the backpack is for a shellformer, it's worth it. I both get a great sense of hope for the rest of the line, and also a great sense of dread that this might be the best

LinaNui wrote:I just submitted this video to news since I hadn't seen it front paged. Them after I hit submit the page refreshed and it was up already. oh well lol

On the figure side though. I am really not a fan of this, I think that I will be saving a lot of money this coming year if half the figures are BW. Does anyone else find it strange that we basically know of every figure that will be released in the kingdom line and ER has not even ended yet?

As Zerowolf said, we've seen this a few times snow. POTP was crazy since we even had images to represent the entire line. That was one heck of a leak.

transformers_va wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Trukk not Munky!!!

I have no problems with the BW line, and I understand a lot of people like it. My point was that the 2 lines shouldn't have been combined, and instead should have been done separately

I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Anyways, regarding this toy, I get what they are doing. We had G1 with articulation, and now it's the time for that to happen with the Season 1 Beast Wars toys. I can dig it.

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

That was awesome TonTon. Great stop motion lol. I've always loved Rattrap

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

"Buy this action figure and get a free dessert"? I'd be down for that.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

I dunno about Strawberry Shortcake her rights holders would probably want the whole line obliterated from orbit depending on how sge looked I mean they did pull a comic from Penny Arcade back in the day...

The actual review video (the stop-motion one was just a trailer for the review):

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

"Buy this action figure and get a free dessert"? I'd be down for that.

In all serious though, I'm sure WJ was partly joking as well. But serious social issues of humanity cannot be compared to toys. It's called categorization, not segregation. It's why when you walk into a store you have groceries, domestics, sporting goods, electronics etc... otherwise it would be chaos.

I myself thought previously that WFC Trilogy was going to be a past/present/future story. But the future I was envisioning was more like Victory etc... I too feel that this line should have stuck with the original series. Not for any lack of love for BW, I think BW is great, but every BW toy in this line is a potential original series character that gets snubbed. Conversely, every original series character in this line takes a spot away from what could have been more BW characters in a line dedicated to them.

If they wanted to do a Generations crossover theme, it just could have been done better IMHO.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite in this TF line

I support this!

If you know, you know.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

"Buy this action figure and get a free dessert"? I'd be down for that.

this has just made my day

I'm actually pretty impressed by Rattrap. His robot mode is really well proportioned and articulated (with ball-joined ankles!), and I really like the rat's headsculpt. What impresses me the most is how compact his kibble backpack is, especially compared to his generations deluxe. If this is a sign of how kibble will be handled on the other BW figures, these are going to be great updates.

My main potential problem are his robot mode shoulders being on forward-facing ball joints. It probably will function just fine as the backpack wouldn't allow backwards arm movement anyway, but hopefully it's not too derpy. He could also use more paint, but that's the price point.

Overall, he's looking really good. I'll be buying him for sure.

as somebody who has had pet rats in the past, I actually appreciate te way the robot arms stick out on the rat-butt. that's actually very true to real rats lol. cute from the front, nooooooot so much from behind

Greetings Seibertronians! Hot on the heels of YouTube toy reviewer, TonTon Reviews, stop motion animation featuring our possible first look at Core Class Rattrap from next years Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Kingdom line, TonTon had now uploaded the world's first review of Core Class Rattrap!

The review was shared with us by fellow Seibertron user, Sabrblade.

We have embedded the review below for your convenience:



What do you think of this third version of this fan-favourate character? Will he be scurrying around your collection? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

Me thinks this guy will pop up at around the last Earthrise wave like Combiner Wars Buzzsaw did.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Transformers should be like Marvel Legends, and this is at long last a step in the right direction, a step that was made in Thrilling 30 and then stagnated, and now is finally headed that way again.

I agree 100%. Thats why I always loved Thrilling 30 so much. There was so much character variety and diversity (Which really showed on the shelf, Too), That I never (And still haven't) got bored with it.
I've always wanted a sort of anthology series (like Marvel Legends) And I think T30 was the closest we ever got to that.
Anyway. I think Rattrap looks pretty good. It is nice that the ears don't stick out like the T30 mold in robot mode, Thats an advantage (IMO) that it has in its favor right out of the gate compared to T30.
My only concern is the scale. Now, I haven't watched Beast Wars all the way through in a couple of years, But does this scale seem kind of wonky to anyone else? Again, It might just be me, I don't know.
Also, What do you think the odds of getting a Transmutate figure are? I think that may've been my favorite BW episode.

o.supreme wrote:I too feel that this line should have stuck with the original series. Not for any lack of love for BW, I think BW is great, but every BW toy in this line is a potential original series character that gets snubbed. Conversely, every original series character in this line takes a spot away from what could have been more BW characters in a line dedicated to them.

If they wanted to do a Generations crossover theme, it just could have been done better IMHO.

Realistically though you can't expect Hasbro to double their toy output overnight, so they would either have to drop G1 production entirely and replace it with Beast Wars (which isn't going to happen when G1 sells the most) or keep producing G1 and nothing else (which they now seem to understand annoys fans of those series).

Quantum Surge wrote:Me thinks this guy will pop up at around the last Earthrise wave like Combiner Wars Buzzsaw did.

Except it would have to be all or nothing for the wave 1 core class since that class doesn't exist on shelves right now. Buzzsaw was Legends which carried over from CW to TR, so he could be released under CW ahead of TR without screwing up the size classes. The same setup doesn't exist here, I don't see them jamming Rattrap into micromaster packaging.