First Look at Transformers Legacy Armada Megatron, Titan Class Nemesis and More

Nemesis looks good.

Armada Megatron looks almost exactly like the recent release.

Armada Prime looks fantastic.

Nonplussed by the others.

The War Dawn two pack looks nice, still not sure I'll be getting it due to other stuff I like more. also it being an SDCC exclusive may hinder my access to it.

Beachcomber looks okay but again seems too big for a so-called minibot, is he going to tower over BB just like Cosmos? I'm beginning to think redoing these are DLX Bots was a mistake and that they should be somewhere in between core and DLX, or at least scales down a bit. Otherwise they're going to have to resize CJ and BB.

Devcon was the most exciting one for me even if it was reuse of Blurr because it looks totally different and accurate to the character. This is the only one I will definitely be buying

Axelgrease has an interesting and cool looking color combo in bot mode and that's about it for me, don't know if that's enough to warrant me buying her though.

Nice to finally get Dirge out again, hopefully a few others will follow soon.

Nemesis looked amazing even if it's still unfinished! This is the only other one that really got a reaction out of me, and while I'd like to say it's a day one purchase/preorder that just isn't the case. I have to be frugal with so many other priorities ATM so I'll have to wait for a sale unfortunately.

As for the rest of the livestream nothing else interested me.

First-Aid wrote:
Armada Megatron looks almost exactly like the recent release.

Hmm, no, I mean, they are similar, because they are based on the same guy, but he's pretty different to the Combiner Wars version which is the most recent one we've gotten. Different tank mode, and very different robot mode body style.

Combiner Wars:



New Legacy version


Original


I think they only thing missing is his little shiv in his left palm and Leader One. Sad no Minicon made the cut. also, don't think he has the minion capture chamber on his leg.
The swiveling turret, the movable missile launcher (no launching missiles this time).
The extending waist...


All there.

Nemesis looks pretty good, definitely better than The Ark. Can't wait to see the finished product. I was looking forward to Megatron, but I'm underwhelmed. Still gonna preorder him, but I'll rely on comparison to the original.

I was surprised by Devcon, he looks pretty good. I already have adequate versions of Dirge and Beachcomber, so I'll pass.

And then Ark and Nemesis' eyes locked...
and love was in the air....
Sorry, I'll stop now.

One shame about the UT characters getting new toys is they lack all the features of their earlier figures. But I guess that's the trade off for better articulation.

I liek Axlegrease but I really do not want a Lockdown remold out of it. It's already a remold and it isn't at all the type of sleek tall body that would work for lockdown. Lockdown is a pretty major character with a legacy of his own, he should get a new toy. And Axelgrease redeco/retool would just be a placeholder and I aint got space for any more placeholders. I thought we were done with stuff like that.

RiddlerJ wrote:And then Ark and Nemesis' eyes locked...
and love was in the air....
Sorry, I'll stop now.

That would actually be a hilarious set-up for a cartoon episode.

Finally, more Armada figures WITHOUT the one thing the show literally revolved around and made it special. Just what everyone wanted.

Munkky wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:And then Ark and Nemesis' eyes locked...
and love was in the air....
Sorry, I'll stop now.

That would actually be a hilarious set-up for a cartoon episode.

(song starts playing)

"BABY COME BACK! ANY KIND OF FOOL CAN SEE..."

I love that Armada Megs.

Nemesis is not too bad looking. I'm curious to see the finished product.

As for that Dark Leo Prime, it's so SEXY!

Emerje wrote:Single retail Dirge is battle damage free.

The Earthrise 2-pack one never had any to begin with.

We just had the latest Hasbro Transformers Legacy update! What does Death think...?

Core Dinobots Scarr and Swoop: Well, I wasn't tempted by any of the OTHER core Dinobots - so I'm not tempted by these either. Pass. I like the Leader Studio Series Dinobots better, that's all .

Beachcomber: Only thing that's tempting, but not enough to pre-order. The Legends size version from Titans Return is still pretty good, and, based on what I see, not much smaller than the new 'deluxe' version. The only thing I'd be missing is the 'evo fusion' parakeet. Pass.

Devcon: It's neat that they devoted time and energy to making a figure from a throwaway character in the G1 animated series who was only seen once. But I never liked that episode, really - the only thing that might have made me go for it is if it contained a "Sleezardo" mini figure . Pass.

Axlegrease: I've shied away from the Junkion figures in Legacy so far, for one simple reason - they're weaponizers, and I got tired of that in the Siege/Earthrise lines. Pass.

Nemesis Leo: Didn't like it in the normal colors, don't even like it in black. Pass.

Dirge: Already got this one (and Ramjet) from the Earthrise Two-pack. No need for another! Pass.

Armada Megatron: The only other one that tempts me, simply because it's Megatron. But looking it over? I don't think I like it enough to pre-order. It's an H-Tank, and that automatically loses points with me. I like my tanks nice and solid, not with a big ol' empty space in front. I never liked the Shrapnel horns on his head, or the shoulder pads. And it's got the tank turret just sticking on his back, it doesn't look like they did anything with it, really. Looks like it would really hinder the articulation in robot mode. Tentative pass.

So - it looks like there was almost NOTHING in this round that motivates me to buy. Shame, really. But don't let that stop the rest of you! If you like these, go for it!

Although - I am tempted by that Nemesis Titan...

We're you expecting Megatron to be like the recent release? Hence inaccurate to the source material?

Axelgrease and Core Dinos will be pre-ordered as soon as Amazon Listings are available (Scar pre-order still isn't on Amazon as of this post). Nemesis definitely looks cool. Adding the AIRLOCK connector wasn't necessary, but its a nice touch, but it will also make The Ark stand out more as the only modern Generations Citybot/Playset (aside from T30 Metroplex) that cannot be connected.

Dark Leo Prime actually has painted eyes in Lion Mode . Looks way better as most of us figured it would.

o.supreme wrote:Axelgrease and Core Dinos will be pre-ordered as soon as Amazon Listings are available (Scar pre-order still isn't on Amazon as of this post). Nemesis definitely looks cool. Adding the AIRLOCK connector wasn't necessary, but its a nice touch, but it will also make The Ark stand out more as the only modern Generations Citybot/Playset (aside from T30 Metroplex) that cannot be connected.

Dark Leo Prime actually has painted eyes in Lion Mode . Looks way better as most of us figured it would.

It's a shame isn't it? Especially given that if the ark had airlock compatibility, it would be possible to do the boarding scene properly as a display.

Megatron is the king of the wave with Devcon as a close second and the Nemesis is looking amazing. I skipped the Ark and don't regret it, but this giant decepticon is probably a must get.

Nemesis and Armada Megatron look great. And Devcon was a pleasant surprise.

That Titan Nemesis is looking pretty awesome. Not too into titans so that'll be a pass for me but alt mode looks great

I'm skipping on core dinobots as well

Armada Megatron is looking pretty well done! Not my cup of tea but that's a good figure and fingers crossed for Tidal Wave

Armada Prime isn't really for me either. But if they do the powerlinx one that's mostly blue with some red highlights I just might

Not really interested in coneheads but glad for those missing Dirge

Nemesis Leo/Copy Convoy I'm on the fence about. I like the idea of having the character but not sure if I want to double dip on that mold. To be fair I've double dipped on every other cat bot, so..

Axelgrease isn't really doing it for me either. The colors look great and it's always nice to have more fembots, alt mode looks great too. But decepticon junkion just isn't it for me, I don't see that fitting into my collection unless they make more and they're all really cool

Beachcomber looks good, the bird is a nice touch. The alt mode is awesome. Never been into the character though, so I'll wait on Sandstorm as my buggy bot

Devcon is cool. Can't even tell where blurr was used on this guy. Happy to finally add this character into my collection, mayhaps I'll use him as a mandalorian type character. Showing his face makes him a permanent apostate though so idk

Okay I see blurrs toes on devcon now lol

Only thing I don't like is his face. He looks so friendly. He's a bounty hunter, make him look more menacing

Rodimus Prime wrote:We're you expecting Megatron to be like the recent release? Hence inaccurate to the source material?

The armada toys havent suffered from that (Optimus, Starscream, Hot Shot), so I expected Megatron to look exactly as he does.

While there's lots of fun stuff here, not sure what I'll get. I swore off titans due to lack of space but damn, that ship mode on nemesis is really cool. I think I'll get it.

While the armada stuff looks excellent, I just don't have a connection to armada enough to give it space in my collection.

Will get Axelgrease, Devcon and Beachcomber.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Devcon is cool. Can't even tell where blurr was used on this guy. Happy to finally add this character into my collection, mayhaps I'll use him as a mandalorian type character. Showing his face makes him a permanent apostate though so idk

Only if he's in the one cult.

sol magnus wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Devcon is cool. Can't even tell where blurr was used on this guy. Happy to finally add this character into my collection, mayhaps I'll use him as a mandalorian type character. Showing his face makes him a permanent apostate though so idk

Only if he's in the one cult.

Decisions, decisions. I've also thought of using Soundblaster as a Boba Fett

The rumored Strongarm could be Cara Dune, Shadow Striker could be Fennec Shand

Till-all-R1 wrote:Beachcomber looks okay but again seems too big for a so-called minibot, is he going to tower over BB just like Cosmos? I'm beginning to think redoing these are DLX Bots was a mistake and that they should be somewhere in between core and DLX, or at least scales down a bit. Otherwise they're going to have to resize CJ and BB.

Bumblebee/Cliffjumper are supposed to be smaller than the rest of the mininots in the show. Brawn and Huffer are noticeably taller than them in shots when they are standing near them and the G1 size chart that is supposed to be used in general, shows them as being shorter. It was done intentionally, just like all the other minibots bigger than BB and Cliffjumper are taller in recent toy form. (Warpath, Cosmos, Huffer, Pipes etc.)

Armada Megatron, Axelgrease, and Beachcomber are my must haves from this. Armada Prime looks pretty good too will have to see how easy he is to get though.

Nemesis ship looks interesting but I would only really want it badly if I already had the Ark for the completionist in me, which I don't

Slashercon wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:Beachcomber looks okay but again seems too big for a so-called minibot, is he going to tower over BB just like Cosmos? I'm beginning to think redoing these are DLX Bots was a mistake and that they should be somewhere in between core and DLX, or at least scales down a bit. Otherwise they're going to have to resize CJ and BB.

Bumblebee/Cliffjumper are supposed to be smaller than the rest of the mininots in the show. Brawn and Huffer are noticeably taller than them in shots when they are standing near them and the G1 size chart that is supposed to be used in general, shows them as being shorter. It was done intentionally, just like all the other minibots bigger than BB and Cliffjumper are taller in recent toy form. (Warpath, Cosmos, Huffer, Pipes etc.)

Actually, Cliff was slightly taller than 'Bee, but I forgive them because a couple of inches is hard to do in 1/12th.

That Megatron is an amazing update, shame the inital Prime characters didn't get that.


I also like the Black Leo Convoy redeco.

Looks like another year of saving money.

While I'll still get it, Devcon is a disappointment. First official release ever and they couldn't give it a new mold? Where are the wrist guns? Maybe I'm remembering the character wrong but didn't it have a cape in some scenes?

Seems all but inevitable now that Tidal Wave will be a CC for 2024, especially since they teased future compatibility for Armada Megatron.

First-Aid wrote:Armada Megatron looks almost exactly like the recent release.

Recent meaning from 9 years ago?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:While I'll still get it, Devcon is a disappointment. First official release ever and they couldn't give it a new mold? Where are the wrist guns? Maybe I'm remembering the character wrong but didn't it have a cape in some scenes?

No cape. Devcon looks fantastic. Can't wait to finally have a proper Devcon in hand after almost 40 years. Man I loved him as a kid and I was just showing my 13 yo daughter the pics of this figure and how excited their Dad is finally having the chance to buy this figure after all of these years!

Seibertron wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Armada Megatron looks almost exactly like the recent release.

Recent meaning from 9 years ago?

I forgot that one.


Actually, I tried to put it out of my mind...


Now I'm not exactly sure which one I meant. I'm sick. I blame the NyQuil.

I’m really excited about that Beachcomber. He looks incredible.
For being a smaller deluxe, they did a great job of filling out the bot mode; there isn’t any real hollowness or gaps I could see.

Devcon looks really good even being a heavy retool.
Had no idea of him, so no plan to get him…. I may not be able to pass on this one.

I’m not sold on the Nemesis yet…. The ship mode is pretty on point, but the bot mode doesn’t have me convinced yet.
But the same thing happened for me with the Ark, and I’m definitely glad I got him.
So we’ll see. Images of the finished figure should help.

Other than that, the other reveals are all passes.
None of them looked bad per se, but they definitely won’t make it into my collection.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m not sold on the Nemesis yet…. The ship mode is pretty on point, but the bot mode doesn’t have me convinced yet.
But the same thing happened for me with the Ark, and I’m definitely glad I got him.
So we’ll see. Images of the finished figure should help.

I don't transform the ship I have. It stays a ship. They couldn't make it and not have it transform, and I get that - but I just want the ships. For me, it's an insta-buy, because as you say, the ship mode is on-point.

WHen I'm dead my kids or grandkids can transform it to their hearts content.

The Titan Nemesis is looking good, but its that impossibility to see into the future that irritates me...

Obviously the Titans for 2019 & 2020 were immensely popular being based on highly desired Original Series characters (Omega Supreme & Scorponok), These Titans also had 2nd release runs.

The last 2 years however.... The Ark (based on an original design), and Cybertron Metroplex (based on a character from another universe), clearly haven't had as much appeal. Of course the team on camera have to only say good things *The Ark was highly successful*, but the fact that BOTH of these have gone on sale for as much as 50% in some cases , tells another story.

Those who have The Ark (such as Myself) will clearly want the Nemesis as its...well *Nemesis" (pun intended). I can see some wanting The Nemesis just because it is an overall awesome design in both Ship & Robot Mode. But.... will enough people want it to make it hard to get?

Of course there is the possibility based on the past 2 years that Hasbro will produce fewer of them, so as to not have to put the excess on such extreme discount as often....

I bought The Ark at full price. While it is not nearly my Favorite Titan, I dont regret it. I got Cybertron Metroplex on a pretty significant Discount, and I still am not a fan of it. So I guess by that logic, since I actually do desire The Nemesis to some degree, I'll probably just pre-order as soon as it is available.

Stupid question, was Snarl ever available for PO? We're getting the arms and NOT the other leg?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question, was Snarl ever available for PO? We're getting the arms and NOT the other leg?

Snarl still has yet to be unveiled at all.

sol magnus wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m not sold on the Nemesis yet…. The ship mode is pretty on point, but the bot mode doesn’t have me convinced yet.
But the same thing happened for me with the Ark, and I’m definitely glad I got him.
So we’ll see. Images of the finished figure should help.

I don't transform the ship I have. It stays a ship. They couldn't make it and not have it transform, and I get that - but I just want the ships. For me, it's an insta-buy, because as you say, the ship mode is on-point.

WHen I'm dead my kids or grandkids can transform it to their hearts content.

I’m most likely with you on this…
Really, assuming I do buy her, she’ll stay in ship mode.
Now, still not an instant purchase for me; the bot mode has to at least help justify the cost.
But I’m already leaning towards preordering this when it’s possible.

I just watched that segment of the livestream again before starting this post, and I’m figuring out that the long arms and lower legs don’t bother me as they did initially.
I know a lot of these characters were designed with relatively human-esque proportions, but in a case like the Nemesis, I almost think the proportions should be less human-like.
This is the representation of a ginormous robot from outer space.
It also helps that there are no character animation models to compare this to and possibly get hung-up on.
I was hoping this would be good— it will be the last Titan I ever buy.
And I’m already thinking about how to build a diorama that allows the lower/underside tail fin to remain vertical…. Should be a fun project.

For me this does look better than the Ark.
I had confidence, but glad Hastak delivered the goods once again.

These look pretty good! Might pick up Axelgrease and Armada Megs. Already snatched a pre-order for Dirge, gotta make up for missing out on the 2 pack of course.
The Nemesis looks really cool, not sure if I'll have space for that though...
I really like how Beachcomber looks here, the parakeet is a very cute addition. I'm surprised they gave the pacifist a gun but I guess ol' Comber's gotta defend himself somehow huh? I think it's a neat inclusion anyway for the deluxe price and I like that they made it the bullbar like they did with Crankcase's grill section.

Also Devcon finally gets a juicier bone tossed his way, that's neat.

o.supreme wrote:The Titan Nemesis is looking good, but its that impossibility to see into the future that irritates me...

Obviously the Titans for 2019 & 2020 were immensely popular being based on highly desired Original Series characters (Omega Supreme & Scorponok), These Titans also had 2nd release runs.

The last 2 years however.... The Ark (based on an original design), and Cybertron Metroplex (based on a character from another universe), clearly haven't had as much appeal. Of course the team on camera have to only say good things *The Ark was highly successful*, but the fact that BOTH of these have gone on sale for as much as 50% in some cases , tells another story.

Those who have The Ark (such as Myself) will clearly want the Nemesis as its...well *Nemesis" (pun intended). I can see some wanting The Nemesis just because it is an overall awesome design in both Ship & Robot Mode. But.... will enough people want it to make it hard to get?

Of course there is the possibility based on the past 2 years that Hasbro will produce fewer of them, so as to not have to put the excess on such extreme discount as often....

I bought The Ark at full price. While it is not nearly my Favorite Titan, I dont regret it. I got Cybertron Metroplex on a pretty significant Discount, and I still am not a fan of it. So I guess by that logic, since I actually do desire The Nemesis to some degree, I'll probably just pre-order as soon as it is available.

For Titans, I give myself till black friday to see if there's a discount. You could buy one if there is a sale within one month before then and if there is a bigger sale come black friday, then buy at that price and do a return.

Of course, it really didn't pan out that way for commander class figures like motormaster or skylynx. I waited for a decent deal and by black friday (which didn't get a great deal), they were just gone. But with Titans, it's worked out thus far.

And I like what you said about Metroplex, I feel that same way too about other toys. No matter how good a deal is, if I don't like the toy, then I won't like the toy.

Sowndwave76 wrote:
For me this does look better than the Ark.

Me too, but I always found the ark to be a boring looking ship by comparison.

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:
For me this does look better than the Ark.

Me too, but I always found the ark to be a boring looking ship by comparison.

Good point.
And in terms of these toys, the Nemesis bot mode in turn is also more interesting.

LOVE the Nemesis, and I'm practically tearing up over that Armada Megs! He's everything I could have ever wanted out of a modern take on the character, with all the posability. I'm hoping we get that Tidal Wave! Eat your heart out, CW Armada Megatron, you tried.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:LOVE the Nemesis, and I'm practically tearing up over that Armada Megs! He's everything I could have ever wanted out of a modern take on the character, with all the posability. I'm hoping we get that Tidal Wave! Eat your heart out, CW Armada Megatron, you tried.

I feel some pang of pity for that mold. I didn't think it was a good toy, I didn't think it was a good Megs, and it wasn't a good Armada Megs either.
All it was good for was just being big. Even the articulation was woeful for a Combiner Wars era figure...

SpaceEagle wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:LOVE the Nemesis, and I'm practically tearing up over that Armada Megs! He's everything I could have ever wanted out of a modern take on the character, with all the posability. I'm hoping we get that Tidal Wave! Eat your heart out, CW Armada Megatron, you tried.

I feel some pang of pity for that mold. I didn't think it was a good toy, I didn't think it was a good Megs, and it wasn't a good Armada Megs either.
All it was good for was just being big. Even the articulation was woeful for a Combiner Wars era figure...

You said it perfectly right there. It just felt wrong.

ALSO, am I the only one who sees Ultra Magnus-esque shoulder stacks on that Dion toy? The tips on top, the square shape and texture, they all read Magnus. Could this be intentional allusion to the whole "Who did Alpha Trion rebuild Dion into?" thing?

That would be a funny detail, and would add up with Hasbro teasing lore like they did with Kingdom Cyclonus's description and the recent Rumble toys' spin on FIRRIB.

Although I think it's probably just to add some visual interest, maybe even for kids to have some extra play value with them by pretending they're cannons.

Someone made this digibash.





I hope this never happens.

Out of all the preorders, I'll only get Devcon to replace my Botcon one. I want all the cartoon TFs and he's one of 'em and way better than the one I already have.

Is it blasphemy to say I'm still happy with my old 3rd party "minibots" from iGear? I have the titans one too, but I just don't feel like I need to replace any of the ones I already have.

Axlegrease. I appreciate that she's a female Decepticon Junkion. And yet with those colors she really doesn't look like a Junkion at all.

Nemesis is a must have, mainly to stand opposite to the Ark.

I wonder if that'll be it for Titans for me. I don't buy them all and they the ones that are in my area of interest.

william-james88 wrote:Someone made this digibash.





I hope this never happens.

Agreed. Lockdown deserves a new mold
At the very least he should be one of those unrecognizable retools like metalhawk or devcon

I feel like the fact they went with an original character for the "scrapyard muscle car" retool instead of Lockdown just kinda proves to me that Lockdown will likely be an original (or different I should say) mold instead. Especially if they want to keep the Animated aesthetic "intact" which I think they nailed it pretty well with Prowl.