English Translation for Transformers Selects Seacons Turtler Manga Comic
Monday, August 5th, 2019 12:25AM CDT
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As Sabrblade has been a long fan of the Legends Manga and associated comics we've included his summary of the issue here. He gives a great break down of where the story has been so far:
"This comic follow on directly after the end of the previous Star Convoy comic, and kinda jumps around from flashback to present to flashback to present rather than flowing chronologically. Also, unlike most Japanese manga, this comic reads from left-to-right.
To help better understand this comic, back in the Star Convoy comic, Convoy (Optimus Prime) and Galvatron were pulled into another dimension by Primus, who showed them their future deaths that awaited them (in the Headmasters cartoon) as well as a future enemy that was coming to attack this world. Convoy accepted his fate and resolved to save this world from said enemy, being temporarily upgraded into Star Convoy to drive the enemy off. Thus, Convoy was sent back to his homeworld while Galvatron, who had not accepted his fate, remained behind, seeking a power of his own to avoid his fated death."
"Galvatron is happened upon by this world's version of Turtler and Halfshell, who are space pirates and not subordinates of Galvatron. They offer to make a deal with Galvatron that will give him the same power that Convoy had received, in exchange for their extracting the Angolmois Energy from within Galvatron (which he has since he was originally upgraded by Unicron). Galvatron reluctantly agrees and, while he is in stasis, Halfshell uses the extracted Angolmois Energy to upgrade Turtler into a new form (based on the look of his new Selects toy), dubbing him the new "King of the Seacons."
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Posted by Decepticon Stryker on August 5th, 2019 @ 2:18am CDT
Posted by serre prime on August 5th, 2019 @ 4:23am CDT
i like the art
Posted by Skritz on August 5th, 2019 @ 10:58am CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Ah, so this is what leads to Super Megatron.
Unless they do an Ultra Megatron at Leader size its going to be funny to match him up against Star Convoy when he is one size class too small.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 5th, 2019 @ 12:22pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Decepticon Stryker wrote:Ah, so this is what leads to Super Megatron.
Unless they do an Ultra Megatron at Leader size its going to be funny to match him up against Star Convoy when he is one size class too small.
Alternatively, to mention Galvatron and Angolmois Energy to me, signifies perhaps a new toy for this guy:
Posted by Skritz on August 5th, 2019 @ 1:08pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Skritz wrote:Decepticon Stryker wrote:Ah, so this is what leads to Super Megatron.
Unless they do an Ultra Megatron at Leader size its going to be funny to match him up against Star Convoy when he is one size class too small.
Alternatively, to mention Galvatron and Angolmois Energy to me, signifies perhaps a new toy for this guy:
Oh man you just had to hype me up at the possibility didn't you?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 5th, 2019 @ 1:15pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on August 5th, 2019 @ 1:22pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Better he become another Galvatron, than degrading him to something inferior...
Technically there is nothing which says his Super Megatron form is weaker. It just seem to imply his appearance and personality are reverted to his Megatron self. This isn't the Unicron trilogy where a 'Galvatron' is just a repaint and upgrade to his Megatron state.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 5th, 2019 @ 1:26pm CDT
Skritz wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Better he become another Galvatron, than degrading him to something inferior...
Technically there is nothing which says his Super Megatron form is weaker. It just seem to imply his appearance and personality are reverted to his Megatron self. This isn't the Unicron trilogy where a 'Galvatron' is just a repaint and upgrade to his Megatron state.
It's not about weakness. My first foray into Transformers was The Movie, wherein to the bright eyes of a 3/4yo, Galvatron was superior to Megatron in every single way. For the most part, Simon Furman agrees with that too. There is only one consistently good Megatron (Yesss) and he was never associated with a Galvatron.
Posted by Skritz on August 5th, 2019 @ 1:31pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Skritz wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Better he become another Galvatron, than degrading him to something inferior...
Technically there is nothing which says his Super Megatron form is weaker. It just seem to imply his appearance and personality are reverted to his Megatron self. This isn't the Unicron trilogy where a 'Galvatron' is just a repaint and upgrade to his Megatron state.
It's not about weakness. My first foray into Transformers was The Movie, wherein to the bright eyes of a 3/4yo, Galvatron was superior to Megatron in every single way. For the most part, Simon Furman agrees with that too. There is only one consistently good Megatron (Yesss) and he was never associated with a Galvatron.
Amusingly that Megatron went through two upgrades (that weren't cheap repaints!) in the span of a single show yet never felt the need to rename himself.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 5th, 2019 @ 1:33pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2019 @ 1:42pm CDT
The only reason the original Galvatron upgrade was such a big divergence in appearance and name was because Hasbro wanted to keep his being an upgraded Megatron in the movie a secret since they knew the toy would see release in stores before hit theaters (and because they didn't yet know how marketable and iconic their characters were at the time).
Posted by Skritz on August 5th, 2019 @ 4:59pm CDT
This also make the figure being a retooled Galvatron even more meta.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2019 @ 5:43pm CDT
Albeit, this transformation into Super Megatron will only be a temporary thing since Galvatron has to get back to his own universe in his Galvatron form in order to still be Galvatron when he partakes in the events of The Headmasters.Skritz wrote:So I re-read the comic properly now and Galvatron is losing the Angolmois energy he has in him (presumably it was infused into him when he became Galvatron, which make sense). This does make sense for him to revert into some other form of Megatron. A form of Megatron which is still more powerful than his original form but not twisted and corrupted into the Unicron-created maniac that is Galvatron.
This also make the figure being a retooled Galvatron even more meta.
Posted by Stargrave on August 9th, 2019 @ 12:26am CDT
These have not yet been translated to English but if the last issue was any indication the translation can't be far behind. Enjoy the images below, and you can click on each to take you to the original PDF at TakaraTomy.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 10th, 2019 @ 6:58pm CDT
The below manga is in Japanese, but we can expect some sort of translation in the coming days.
Check it out below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Posted by Flashwave on September 10th, 2019 @ 8:39pm CDT
I Can't read a lick of it, but I don't have to to understand everything and know the Piranhaclones just peeved Star Convoy the heck off.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on September 11th, 2019 @ 7:17am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 11th, 2019 @ 8:32am CDT
Nope. His series, Return of Convoy, came out in 1991, one year after the last piece of Japanese G1 animation, Zone, would be released on VHS in 1990. Star Convoy only got to appear in story pages and just one manga chapter (until the 21st Century, that is).Rodimus Knight wrote:On a side note, did Star Convoy show up in animation at all?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 11th, 2019 @ 6:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Nope. His series, Return of Convoy, came out in 1991, one year after the last piece of Japanese G1 animation, Zone, would be released on VHS in 1990. Star Convoy only got to appear in story pages and just one manga chapter (until the 21st Century, that is).Rodimus Knight wrote:On a side note, did Star Convoy show up in animation at all?
I'm hoping he ends homaged or used in more, i love his design. And he has the best Optimus head (which is why it was used on the BattleCore Prime and is my favorite)
Posted by Stargrave on September 22nd, 2019 @ 9:49pm CDT
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Posted by Sabrblade on September 22nd, 2019 @ 10:47pm CDT
And is... is this comic insinuating that Star Convoy also wields Angolmois Energy of his own?
Posted by First-Aid on September 23rd, 2019 @ 12:03am CDT
Seacon 1: WHo are the Cybertrons?
Convoy: We are. We are all Cybertrons. And I your leader.
Seacon 1: I didn't know we had a leader. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
Seacon 2: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship, a self-perpetuation autocracy in which the working bots-
Seacon 1: Oh, there you go talking about working bots again!
Seacon 2: That's what it's all about!
COnvoy: ...Wreck-gar...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 23rd, 2019 @ 9:38pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And is... is this comic insinuating that Star Convoy also wields Angolmois Energy of his own?
I don't think so: notice how Galvatron is glowing ominously? This could be a sign of the residual Angolmois energy in him responding to the "Star Power" Star Convoy is wielding (remember, the ship with him on board is relatively in his vicinity). What could happen is anyone guess, we'll have to wait until the next installment.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2019 @ 10:24pm CDT
True.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And is... is this comic insinuating that Star Convoy also wields Angolmois Energy of his own?
I don't think so: notice how Galvatron is glowing ominously? This could be a sign of the residual Angolmois energy in him responding to the "Star Power" Star Convoy is wielding (remember, the ship with him on board is relatively in his vicinity). What could happen is anyone guess, we'll have to wait until the next installment.
It's just, since Angolmois Energy originally had jack squat to do with Unicron, I like to wonder if anything may ever go back to exploring that avenue from before it was retconned to be Unicron's energy.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 24th, 2019 @ 6:30pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on October 11th, 2019 @ 2:28pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 11th, 2019 @ 5:26pm CDT
The term used is "Jii-sama" (じいさま). While "Jii" can be used to refer to a grandfather, it most basically just refers to an old man. Halfshell uses the "-sama" honorific merely out of respect for Coelagon, not because he's literally Halfshell's grandpa.
Posted by Skritz on October 11th, 2019 @ 7:39pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on October 11th, 2019 @ 8:28pm CDT
Skritz wrote:So is the chestplate detachable on Selects King Poseidon/Piranacon or is that a nod to the G1 toy kibble?
Removable.
Emerje
Posted by Skritz on October 11th, 2019 @ 9:08pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 11th, 2019 @ 11:03pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on October 12th, 2019 @ 7:23am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also, this comic provides some long awaited confirmation on what year Masterforce takes place in: 2020, nine years after The Headmasters and five years before Victory.
Yes because that totally make sense.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 12th, 2019 @ 9:39am CDT
It doesn't?Skritz wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also, this comic provides some long awaited confirmation on what year Masterforce takes place in: 2020, nine years after The Headmasters and five years before Victory.
Yes because that totally make sense.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 12th, 2019 @ 5:48pm CDT
At any rate, note how the Space Pirate Seacons including Halfshell have been rebuilt into new forms... wait, where's Seaphantom?
:EDIT: And well well, not only has Turtler overcome the limitation of only combining with one of each Seacon type, when he does combine with all 5 types it's a "Perfect Mode".
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 13th, 2019 @ 8:32pm CDT
Posted by Master Farr 1 on March 2nd, 2020 @ 4:12pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 2nd, 2020 @ 6:30pm CST
Master Farr 1 wrote:Are we still getting super megatron?
We should be, the comic appears to be leading up to that.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2020 @ 10:51pm CDT
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810139768/comics_first-vol01.pdf
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810139768/comics_first-vol02.pdf
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 1st, 2020 @ 11:21pm CDT
- Unicron clones, based on Cybertron Unicron
- Sparkbots and Dead End/Bug
- What is Pretender Bumblebee doing there?
- Hey, White Lune is back... who's the boy?
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2020 @ 11:24pm CDT
And colored like the United "Ark Unicron" version of the toy.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Listing the oddities:
- Unicron clones, based on Cybertron Unicron
Maybe as part of some yet-to-be-disclosed plan to fix the continuity error of him being Bumblebee (with his Pretender helmet) instead of Goldbug during the "Controverse" manga story that was also set in 2011.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- What is Pretender Bumblebee doing there?
Since she looks younger than in this in the Legends manga, I'm thinking the boy is a young White Leo and that Convoy and Megs are in the past on Planet Beast.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- Hey, White Lune is back... who's the boy?
Posted by william-james88 on April 2nd, 2020 @ 1:37pm CDT
Here are the links:
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/490 ... -vol01.pdf
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/490 ... -vol02.pdf
And here is an image of the tank.
Posted by Albatross250 on April 2nd, 2020 @ 1:52pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on April 2nd, 2020 @ 2:09pm CDT
And people still think Super Megatron wasn't the main inspiration for the Animated Megatron! Add facial 'hair' and the resemble become uncanny.
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 2nd, 2020 @ 3:19pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2020 @ 4:57pm CDT
Why would Super Megatron have a base mode? He's only a Voyager and never had one in the original Return of Convoy fiction.blackeyedprime wrote:No base mode pics in what has been shown so far tho megatrons cockpit might not work as well as galvatronus in fan base mode.
Posted by Skritz on April 2nd, 2020 @ 5:11pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 2nd, 2020 @ 9:58pm CDT
Albatross250 wrote:The fusion Cannon can fold into a Triple Turret for his tank mode, also the Fusion Cockpit cannon is a new mold, too.
Close, the triple cannon is a separate piece that "hides" inside the main cannon in both Super Megatron modes it looks like. In the Ultra Megatron modes, the piece detaches and is placed on the back of the cockpit for Tank Mode, but I can't really tell where on Robot Mode.
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 3rd, 2020 @ 4:13am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Why would Super Megatron have a base mode? He's only a Voyager and never had one in the original Return of Convoy fiction.blackeyedprime wrote:No base mode pics in what has been shown so far tho megatrons cockpit might not work as well as galvatronus in fan base mode.
Why wouldn't this figure have one? Unless the new tooling has made the nerfed the old toys extra mode. Plus the Manga with these figures usually shows off the extra weird modes (like overlord weaponosing himself with another overlord) and even with the new tooling, not much of a mode is considered base modes on titan returns figures which this is based off. Plus ultimately this is not a return of convoy fiction super megatron, just a homage (and at that an undersized one if he has supposed to be the same size as star convoy in the original fiction.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 3rd, 2020 @ 8:29am CDT
What? Dude, Titans Return Galvatron didn't have a base mode.blackeyedprime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Why would Super Megatron have a base mode? He's only a Voyager and never had one in the original Return of Convoy fiction.blackeyedprime wrote:No base mode pics in what has been shown so far tho megatrons cockpit might not work as well as galvatronus in fan base mode.
Why wouldn't this figure have one? Unless the new tooling has made the nerfed the old toys extra mode.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 4th, 2020 @ 5:30pm CDT
Comics: Translations of "Generations Selects" Super Megatron Comic courtesy of BWTF.com
One slight oddity, in that Turtler/King Poseidon was never referred to as a Godmaster. Maybe he meant surpassing the Godmasters in terms of power.