Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack

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Thanks to Amazon, we have confirmation of that Bumblebee 3-Pack that was rumoured a while back. While we don't have pictures, we do have the product code, the price (£64.99), and most importantly: The contents!

Celebrate the heroic Auto bot scout with the Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack
3 Deluxe scale Bumblebee figures with movie-inspired detail
1977 Chevrolet Camaro from Movie 1 converts in 12 steps
1967 Chevrolet Camaro from Movie 4 converts in 18 steps
2016 Chevrolet Camaro from Movie 5 converts in 17 steps

In other words, the three molds included are...

'07 Movie's Deluxe Class '77 Camaro Bumblebee (Takara version pictured)

Transformers (2007) Bumblebee Gallery

AoE's Deluxe Class High Octane Bumblebee (Hasbro version pictured)

Transformers Age of Extinction: Generations High Octane Bumblebee Gallery

TLK's Deluxe Class Bumblebee (Hasbro stock photos pictured)

All three of these will likely have new decos, though we aren't sure how different they will be until we have proper images. So, are you sold on this set already, do you wanna wait to see more, or does this not appeal to you at all?
Let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

Credit(s): Amazon

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Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895552)
Posted by whip_it on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:19pm CDT

Kurona wrote:The pre-order listings tonight just keep on coming, as online retailer Robot Kingdom has one up for the Movie 1 Optimus Prime re-issue from the Transformers: Tribute line. A redeco of the Leader-class toy from the toyline of the very first 2007 live-action movie, this figure is set for release on July 13th as a celebration of 10 years of Live-action Transformers movies. Click on the image below to pre-order this figure for $89.90 if you wish and tell us what you think in the forums!

so nasty, i feel sorry for anyone who spends even a dollar towards this

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895617)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 10th, 2017 @ 3:08pm CDT

Fellow Seibertronian MaverickPrime has alerted us to a review of the Transformers Tribute Optimus Prime & Orion Pax Evolution pack! The set features the deluxe War for Cybertron Optimus Prime with a new deco, and a unique version of Orion Pax: A retool of Titans Return Kup! Chefatron's review itself has comparisons between Optimus Prime to the original version of the mold, and Orion Pax with Animated Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime and Thrilling 30 Orion Pax.

Check out the video embedded below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895630)
Posted by Seibertron on July 10th, 2017 @ 3:50pm CDT

carytheone wrote:That just screams Target exclusive

I kinda want that Orion repaint but I don't need a second Linebacker Prime. Is the WfC OP deco any different?

Do we know where this set can be found?

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895633)
Posted by william-james88 on July 10th, 2017 @ 3:53pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
carytheone wrote:That just screams Target exclusive

I kinda want that Orion repaint but I don't need a second Linebacker Prime. Is the WfC OP deco any different?

Do we know where this set can be found?

Yup, TF Scoure has it for $60

https://tfsource.com/transformers-tribu ... orion-pax/

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895637)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 10th, 2017 @ 4:01pm CDT

MaverickPrime, think you can give us the product code for this? It should be where the bar code is on the box.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895682)
Posted by LordBludgeon on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:36pm CDT

Is this set going to be sold in stores? Or just online retailers?

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895690)
Posted by Deadput on July 10th, 2017 @ 6:18pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Yup, TF Scoure has it for $60

https://tfsource.com/transformers-tribu ... orion-pax/

Is this a good store to get it from for a Canadian like myself?

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895696)
Posted by ExciKaiser on July 10th, 2017 @ 6:56pm CDT

whip_it wrote:so nasty, i feel sorry for anyone who spends even a dollar towards this

I don't really agree.

Ok, it's absolutely not screen accurate. At all.

But it's his only issue. As a toy, it's a good toy, from the ratchet joints era, which doesn't feel hollow at all etc.

It's not like it's the first time we get a good toy not screen accurate.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895707)
Posted by Overcracker on July 10th, 2017 @ 7:49pm CDT

whip_it wrote:
Kurona wrote:The pre-order listings tonight just keep on coming, as online retailer Robot Kingdom has one up for the Movie 1 Optimus Prime re-issue from the Transformers: Tribute line. A redeco of the Leader-class toy from the toyline of the very first 2007 live-action movie, this figure is set for release on July 13th as a celebration of 10 years of Live-action Transformers movies. Click on the image below to pre-order this figure for $89.90 if you wish and tell us what you think in the forums!

so nasty, i feel sorry for anyone who spends even a dollar towards this

Why?

He's not 100% screen accurate sure but he's a decent toy for what he was back in 2007.

Maybe not $89.90 decent but still well worth a regular purchase. $40 to $50 bucks worth easily.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895708)
Posted by Cobotron on July 10th, 2017 @ 7:52pm CDT

That Leader Prime is the only Movie Prime I own (well, OK, I have EMOP, but...) and while I'm not a movie fan, I adore that toy. It is a cool symbol of the switch in design from the Cybertron line to the first movie toys. It's design carry's over so many things that make the Cybertron toys great toys.
It may not seem great to the die hard movie fans, but if you are a fan of how well designed toys are made, it's a magnificent toy.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895711)
Posted by william-james88 on July 10th, 2017 @ 7:57pm CDT

Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Yup, TF Scoure has it for $60

https://tfsource.com/transformers-tribu ... orion-pax/

Is this a good store to get it from for a Canadian like myself?

nope probably one of the worst for Canadians.
You have to deal with the exchange and duty fees and the very expensive shipping so far were you I would wait to see if some Asian eBay stores have this instead. That was the best way to get some of the platinum sets.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895729)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 10th, 2017 @ 8:52pm CDT

Hm, nope that Orion is pretty ugly.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895746)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 10th, 2017 @ 9:50pm CDT

Cobotron wrote:That Leader Prime is the only Movie Prime I own (well, OK, I have EMOP, but...) and while I'm not a movie fan, I adore that toy. It is a cool symbol of the switch in design from the Cybertron line to the first movie toys. It's design carry's over so many things that make the Cybertron toys great toys.
It may not seem great to the die hard movie fans, but if you are a fan of how well designed toys are made, it's a magnificent toy.

I agree completely. Also, RUBBER TIRES!
I own the Premium version so I've no need for that one. Still, anyone who is not rigid in their TF collecting habits and want some oddballs here and there, that leader OP is a solid purchase.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895747)
Posted by Terrsolpix on July 10th, 2017 @ 9:52pm CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cobotron wrote:That Leader Prime is the only Movie Prime I own (well, OK, I have EMOP, but...) and while I'm not a movie fan, I adore that toy. It is a cool symbol of the switch in design from the Cybertron line to the first movie toys. It's design carry's over so many things that make the Cybertron toys great toys.
It may not seem great to the die hard movie fans, but if you are a fan of how well designed toys are made, it's a magnificent toy.

I agree completely. Also, RUBBER TIRES!
I own the Premium version so I've no need for that one. Still, anyone who is not rigid in their TF collecting habits and want some oddballs here and there, that leader OP is a solid purchase.

I've got an entire shelf of oddballs, might as well add another :-P

well, that's assuming it isn't more than a kidney and 3 fingers.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895749)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 10th, 2017 @ 9:58pm CDT

Terrsolpix wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cobotron wrote:That Leader Prime is the only Movie Prime I own (well, OK, I have EMOP, but...) and while I'm not a movie fan, I adore that toy. It is a cool symbol of the switch in design from the Cybertron line to the first movie toys. It's design carry's over so many things that make the Cybertron toys great toys.
It may not seem great to the die hard movie fans, but if you are a fan of how well designed toys are made, it's a magnificent toy.

I agree completely. Also, RUBBER TIRES!
I own the Premium version so I've no need for that one. Still, anyone who is not rigid in their TF collecting habits and want some oddballs here and there, that leader OP is a solid purchase.

I've got an entire shelf of oddballs, might as well add another well, that's assuming it isn't more than a kidney and 3 fingers.

Still, THAT particular edition is a clear luxury. The original can be found for cheap and even the shinier Premium version is reasonably priced.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895795)
Posted by MaverickPrime on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:54am CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:MaverickPrime, think you can give us the product code for this? It should be where the bar code is on the box.

Sorry mate, I just alerted the news crew, the one who has it is Chefatron

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1895817)
Posted by RAR on July 11th, 2017 @ 4:18am CDT

I still really like the Takara/Argos Nightwatch Prime - so I'm not averse to that mould overall. It's a better toy than the Protoform is anyway.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1896410)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 13th, 2017 @ 4:25am CDT

One again, Cherafron is the first kid on the block to review a TF product. Namely the Evolution of Optimus Prime set:

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1896414)
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 13th, 2017 @ 4:56am CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:One again, Cherafron is the first kid on the block to review a TF product. Namely the Evolution of Optimus Prime set:

This was newsed two days ago..

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1896416)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 13th, 2017 @ 4:59am CDT

Damn. I'm late...

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1896465)
Posted by ExciKaiser on July 13th, 2017 @ 9:34am CDT

I'm currently on the same state as the reviewer after this vid.

I planned to resell the WFC prime as I already have the original, but damn, it looks so damn good in this video.. I'll probably keep it.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1897074)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 16th, 2017 @ 8:31pm CDT

That tribute leader prime. I wish it had the sword too, and I agree it is a great mold. I absolutely love it.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1897768)
Posted by Va'al on July 19th, 2017 @ 10:57pm CDT

There's more! Directly from the floor at San Diego Comic Con 2017, site owner Seibertron is providing us images of the display area at the Hasbro booth - featuring so far some older reveals from existing toylines. In this post, we cover the Transformers Tribute toyline! Covering 'evolutions' in old design and new, featuring older and newer incarnations of the same character, we see the likes of Optimus Prime in his 2007 Leader class toy (but nothing on the deluxe 2pack we have already seen in stores).

These are only the initial images, of course, expect the full Seibertron.com treatment as the event continues across the weekend, with more toy images, the Hasbro Breakfast Press event Thursday morning, panel coverage on Friday and Saturday, and follow-ups with official images and more!

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1897808)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 20th, 2017 @ 4:19am CDT

Looking forward to see clearer images of that '07 Optimus. I don't think he'll be prettier than the stellar Premium version though.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1897851)
Posted by Quantum Surge on July 20th, 2017 @ 10:49am CDT

I really love that Leader Prime. It's funny he gets more chrome than the Leader Prime of TLK (which did get chrome in AOE)

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1898346)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2017 @ 10:03am CDT

The sought after Transformers Tribute Optimus Prime Evolution set, featuring a Titans Return Orion Pax, has now been found on Amazon. And not just Amazon.com, but Amazon Japan as well. While the Japanese listing is a preorder, the American listing is now live and you can purhase this Prime eligible set for $29.99. This was brought to our attention by RodimusConvoy13. Will any of you be getting this set? Let us know in the forums!

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1898351)
Posted by datguy86 on July 21st, 2017 @ 10:17am CDT

Got one. Thanks for the heads-up.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1898358)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on July 21st, 2017 @ 10:40am CDT

Just nabbed one, thanks for the heads up.
Man, I feel bad for anyone that already paid $60 from the 3rd party online retailers.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1898363)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 21st, 2017 @ 10:51am CDT

Nah, I'm good thanks. These look kinda junky to me. Wouldn't mind the other deluxe two pack that has DotM Deluxe Prima and 2007 Protoform Prime though.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1898367)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2017 @ 10:55am CDT

Glad we can help!

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1898402)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 21st, 2017 @ 1:04pm CDT

30$US?!
That's dirt cheap. :shock:

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1898412)
Posted by Silverwing on July 21st, 2017 @ 1:23pm CDT

This pleases my wallet.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899541)
Posted by ExciKaiser on July 25th, 2017 @ 10:02am CDT

Got mines today :
excikaiser-s-collection-p1899535.php#p1899530

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899563)
Posted by Va'al on July 25th, 2017 @ 10:41am CDT

While we do have a video review for this set - from the Transformers Tribute toyline - fellow Seibertronian ExciKaiser has been nice enough to acquire a set and provide a pictorial review of the two versions of Orion Pax / Optimus Prime, both reusing previous molds, but only one with some changed details! Find out more below.

ExciKaiser wrote:Mailman just delivered them :

Not sure if the box picture is still necessary as everybody has saw it, but..

The Two guys together.

It's really a strange set. One of the most detailled and complex Generation Deluxe, with ... ok not the worse, but at least the most simplistic looking and less detailled of TR line.
They don't match at all.

Time for comparison with their counterparts :

VS T30th Orion Pax :

So in the end ?

I initially planned to resell the WFC Prime as I already had the original.
Except now I have it, I think I'll keep it. I can't choose which one is the best. I like the more vivid colors, as well as the neon blue instead of neon pink.
It's the same conflict as between the orginal Supercon armada Prime and the Galaxy force vivid repaint.

For Orion Pax, I decided to prefer him to Kup because of the head before even buying it.
Now I got it, I'm a bit deceived by this head (the T30th was more detailled aven if smaller), but it's still far better from the Kup's one.
The plastic remains the same, whic means this strans porous-looking cheap plastic. Strange considering the WFC got the same high grade plastic as the first release.
And he is as floppy as Kup..

Oh and if you need one more reason to prefer Orion instead of Kup :

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899566)
Posted by Kurona on July 25th, 2017 @ 10:44am CDT

Interesting symbol on Pax's chest here.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899568)
Posted by ExciKaiser on July 25th, 2017 @ 10:48am CDT

The same on sides of vehicule mode.

I supposed it's eliteguard, but after check, it's not the same.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899577)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 25th, 2017 @ 10:55am CDT

I think the Prime definitely looks better than the original release. The Pax just looks awful to me. No redeeming features whatsoever.

I think I'm tempted to buy it if cheap just to have a look at how the Prime transforms as I've not played with that mold and am curious and dunno if I'd keep it or sell it on. I'd just sell the Pax right away.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899580)
Posted by ExciKaiser on July 25th, 2017 @ 11:05am CDT

Carnivius_Prime wrote:I think the Prime definitely looks better than the original release.

In fact, that's it, since my post/review, the new one replaced the original on my shelves.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:The Pax just looks awful to me.

He is correct compared to other titans return.
Not the best, but correct.

Putting him on the same box was really unfair. Even the FOC prime for the same era would look bad next to the WFC.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899587)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 25th, 2017 @ 11:14am CDT

ExciKaiser wrote:
In fact, that's it, since my post/review, the new one replaced the original on my shelves.

Yeah the newer one just has better contrast with that bolder red and darker grey particularly on the chest. That appeals to me much more.

He is correct compared to other titans return.
Not the best, but correct.

Putting him on the same box was really unfair. Even the FOC prime for the same era would look bad next to the WFC.

I don't really like the Kup figure as is though the Takara one fixes a lot of the issues I have with it such as the arms.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899598)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2017 @ 12:04pm CDT

Of all the things that were chosen from the cartoon model of Orion Pax to incorporate into this figure, it was the cartoon model's kissy lips.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899619)
Posted by Lore Keeper on July 25th, 2017 @ 1:57pm CDT

I have my set ordered and it should be getting to me tomorrow!

Times like this do make me miss Fun Pub and the Ask Vector Prime segments. This two pack is a continuity curiosity, and I would love to be able to get an official answer on which fiction these figures are intended to belong to. My collection display depends on it! :-(

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899681)
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:12pm CDT

Lore Keeper wrote:I have my set ordered and it should be getting to me tomorrow!
Times like this do make me miss Fun Pub and the Ask Vector Prime segments. This two pack is a continuity curiosity, and I would love to be able to get an official answer on which fiction these figures are intended to belong to. My collection display depends on it!

These are technically his G1 incarnation since the back of the box calls him a data scientist and both it is supposed to show his evolution (as said in the back). So yeah, this is G1 Prime.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899682)
Posted by Kurona on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:14pm CDT

It's weird, since not only do we have different design ethics behind the two; we have very different colour schemes and hues as well -- making it all the more harder to believe they're from the same universe.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899683)
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:16pm CDT

Kurona wrote:It's weird, since not only do we have different design ethics behind the two; we have very different colour schemes and hues as well -- making it all the more harder to believe they're from the same universe.

Maybe Prime asked drift for a paintjob to represent his changed state of mind.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899684)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:17pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I have my set ordered and it should be getting to me tomorrow!
Times like this do make me miss Fun Pub and the Ask Vector Prime segments. This two pack is a continuity curiosity, and I would love to be able to get an official answer on which fiction these figures are intended to belong to. My collection display depends on it!

These are technically his G1 incarnation since the back of the box calls him a data scientist and both it is supposed to show his evolution (as said in the back). So yeah, this is G1 Prime.

That wasn't G1 Orion Pax's occupation, though. G1 Orion was a dock worker in the cartoon.

Or if you mean IDW G1, that Orion wasn't a data clerk either. He was a cop.

Only Aligned Orion was a data clerk.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899733)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 25th, 2017 @ 8:00pm CDT

I want both Kup and Orion Pax. To bad both will NEVER show up in any of my local stores. >:oP

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899746)
Posted by deliciouspeter on July 25th, 2017 @ 9:12pm CDT

It's an odd set, but glad I scored one at retail price. WFC Prime looks like something out of Warhammer 40K, and Orion looks like papercraft.

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899794)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 26th, 2017 @ 2:13am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I have my set ordered and it should be getting to me tomorrow!
Times like this do make me miss Fun Pub and the Ask Vector Prime segments. This two pack is a continuity curiosity, and I would love to be able to get an official answer on which fiction these figures are intended to belong to. My collection display depends on it!

These are technically his G1 incarnation since the back of the box calls him a data scientist and both it is supposed to show his evolution (as said in the back). So yeah, this is G1 Prime.
That wasn't G1 Orion Pax's occupation, though. G1 Orion was a dock worker in the cartoon.

Or if you mean IDW G1, that Orion wasn't a data clerk either. He was a cop.

Only Aligned Orion was a data clerk.

Wouldn't be the first time someone at Hasbro failed Transformers Continuities 101. 8-}

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899806)
Posted by Emerje on July 26th, 2017 @ 4:35am CDT

william-james88 wrote:The sought after Transformers Tribute Optimus Prime Evolution set, featuring a Titans Return Orion Pax, has now been found on Amazon. And not just Amazon.com, but Amazon Japan as well. While the Japanese listing is a preorder, the American listing is now live and you can purhase this Prime eligible set for $29.99. This was brought to our attention by RodimusConvoy13. Will any of you be getting this set? Let us know in the forums!

Bah! My procrastination gets me again. Completely sold out on both Amazon sites.

Emerje

Re: Confirmation Of Transformers Bumblebee Evolution 3-Pack (1899837)
Posted by Rated X on July 26th, 2017 @ 7:36am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Of all the things that were chosen from the cartoon model of Orion Pax to incorporate into this figure, it was the cartoon model's kissy lips.

Yeah, I wish they would have given Orion his G1 cartoon helmet instead of the Prime with a mouth look. But it isnt as Primey looking as the thrilling 30 figure so I bought it. Also the Amazon price was right where I felt it should be. Didnt really need another WFC Prime but f**k it...

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