Clarification on the Identity of the Mercedes E550

I grow tired of the speculation and am just looking forward to watching a really good (I hope) Transformers movie this summer.

Nelson is a dick and Bay loves lying to us. Case in point the Mercedes is Wheeljack and the Ferrari is Mirage. I don't care what some guy whose name is "Nelson" says.

Lapse Of Reason wrote:I grow tired of the speculation and am just looking forward to watching a really good (I hope) Transformers movie this summer.

Me too, everything is starting to contradict what was said before. I'm just going to wait for the movie to find out who's in it.

He also said the Fire Truck isn't Sentinel Prime. Why would ANYONE believe him?

I am now convinced that Nelson's job is Misdirection. Bay sent him out to spread these rumors to generate speculation and interest in the film. I'm just gonna wait for the movie to see what's what.

The way I see it, the kids are going to know the names of the characters because they buy the toy, and I'm the same. Brawl is still Brawl to me, not Devastator. One line of dialogue isn't going to change the fact that until I saw the movie he was Brawl, and after the movie the packaging still said Brawl.
It's the same here. In my mind books and toy packaging is more concrete than a few lines in the movie, so to me, and I'm sure to any kid that has the toy, they will be called whatever it says on the box.
This whole "Ah, but they're really soandso in the movie!" is childish and petty. Okay, you want your movie to have surprises. That's fine. Don't let plot points leak! But at least give each character one name and stick to it. This IS a kids franchise after all. Why make it so confusing for a bunch of children that just want to play with toys and see their toys on the big screen?

"Mummy, mummy, buy me Mario and Cleverbot for Christmas!"
"Yeah sure." "Hmm, they only have Mirage and Wheeljack? No Mario or Cleverbot anywhere. Oh well, I'll get him that educational dictionary instead."

First Nelson is a grade A jag bag. The ferarri is supposed to have an Italian name......when did Transformers take on human names? The accents are bad enough. This Mercedes will be Wheeljack, have the freaked out hair like Einstein, and will have a thick German accent. The Ferrari is Mirage (not Mario, Dario, or Donatello) and have an Italian accent. The Wreckers already have the stereotypical NASCAR fan characteristics - Topspin has a mullet, Roadbuster wears a baseball cap and sunglasses, and Leadfoot has a beergut. Can't wait for the Southern drawl. I just want to know - if Danica Patrick was racing NASCAR this year - would we get a female robot in Daisy Dukes? If we thought the Twins were stereotypical in ROTF - this movie is really shaping up to be a cluster &@€%.

Get JJ Abrams to do the reboot. Then people will get a good story and keep us guessing without the misinformation BS.

-- AF

Whatever, Michael Bay (aka Nelson) can talk all he wants. I'm sure Hasbro are very happy that he will cause them to rename thousands of dollars worth of toys for a name in the movie. Devastator was supposed to be called Brawl in the first movie. Unless we are supposed to believe the tank in the first movie was rebuilt into a hulking combiner that the Autobots have been unable to take down but one shot from a huma weapon can do just fine. Why bother trying to lie at this late stage? The movie is out in a month. We will see soon.

The Blue Mercedes is Wheeljack
The Ferrari is Mirage
The Silver Mercedes is Soundwave
Sentinel Prime is the main villain, not Shockwave
Silverbolt is not in the movie

The ONLY crap they've pulled that might of actually done is the Twins being removed, but I highly doubt it. I'm sure they will be in the movie.

Seriously, its too late to pull the misinformation crap. Nelson also talks like a total prick.

brains.......... hahahahahahahahahahahahaha omg i just peed my diaper.

I can sum this up with one line from Invader Zim:

"LIIIIIES! THE FILTHY EARTH BOY LIIIIIES!"

Just more misdirection. If it's already published in the official novels then it's cannon. We know that, the rest if the internet knows that, and Nelson knows that. He's just trying to stir the pot until the movie comes out in a month. Or the game in two weeks.

since Bay lies alot about most of everything that deals with his Transformer movies, makes you wonder if the Dinobots are in it, since he said they would be stupid and wouldn't know where or how to fit them into the film? But its amazing how he can bring Sen Prime into the film along with Laserbeak and many others.

Stockade wrote:since Bay lies alot about most of everything that deals with his Transformer movies, makes you wonder if the Dinobots are in it, since he said they would be stupid and wouldn't know where or how to fit them into the film? But its amazing how he can bring Sen Prime into the film along with Laserbeak and many others.

No it doesn't.

This is just stupid. Hasbro decides the names, it's there baby and thier toys.
Nelson is trying to pretend Bay has more power then he does in production.

Clearly it's wheeljack, and the red Ferrari is Mirage.
Otherwise Bay pisses off everyone who has any work already into the DOTM franchise.
From comics, to graphic Novels, to books... The awnsers are already there.

RodimalToyota wrote:This is just stupid. Hasbro decides the names, it's there baby and thier toys.
Nelson is trying to pretend Bay has more power then he does in production.

Clearly it's wheeljack, and the red Ferrari is Mirage.
Otherwise Bay pisses off everyone who has any work already into the DOTM franchise.
From comics, to graphic Novels, to books... The awnsers are already there.

Amen. At this point, I don't care about the names because we already know Bay pulls them out of a hat. But they need to stay consistent throughout the media, and he should at least have the courtesy to provide that. Supposedly he overruled Orci and Kurtzman on the first film at the last minute because Devastator sounded cooler to him than Brawl did. Fast forward: "Hey, we made so much money now we can make a second film with that big guy . . . oops. Ahh, call him Defensor!"

Nemesis243 wrote:I don't care what some guy whose name is "Nelson" says.

If that is indeed his real name!

Yeah, lets just get on with it and see the film.

RodimalToyota wrote:This is just stupid. Hasbro decides the names, it's there baby and thier toys.
Nelson is trying to pretend Bay has more power then he does in production.

^This.

That's why I always lol when ever these douche warehouses speak on stuff like this. They act like they got all the stroke, HA! I wish Hasbro would see this kinda stuff, so they could see the mentality of the people working on their franchise. Not like it would change anything now, but for the next go around.

More misinformation. Having that said, should we all go to Defcon-Delta if this happens?:

Nelson:

"Transformers: Dark of the Moon is the best of the trilogy."

I've been thinking of renaming them all anyway. There should be a special feature on the DVD where each Transformer character is randomly replaced by another one, or a shot of a bunch of scrap metal, and you have to take a drink if you can tell the difference.

And why did Jetfire have a british accent too? That made absolutely no sense at all. He must have been doing lots of stealth spy missions over London before he retired?

Autobot Firestorm wrote:First Nelson is a grade A jag bag. The ferarri is supposed to have an Italian name......when did Transformers take on human names? The accents are bad enough. This Mercedes will be Wheeljack, have the freaked out hair like Einstein, and will have a thick German accent. The Ferrari is Mirage (not Mario, Dario, or Donatello) and have an Italian accent. The Wreckers already have the stereotypical NASCAR fan characteristics - Topspin has a mullet, Roadbuster wears a baseball cap and sunglasses, and Leadfoot has a beergut. Can't wait for the Southern drawl. I just want to know - if Danica Patrick was racing NASCAR this year - would we get a female robot in Daisy Dukes? If we thought the Twins were stereotypical in ROTF - this movie is really shaping up to be a cluster &@€%.

Get JJ Abrams to do the reboot. Then people will get a good story and keep us guessing without the misinformation BS.

-- AF

Exactely what ive been saying about the steriotyping!
Why would an autobot go through all the trouble to purposely scan a ferrari then learn how to speak english in an italian accent?
Answer:
STERIOTYPES IS STERIOTYPES!
Nascar Bros
Mirage
Wheeljack
Skids
Mudflap
Jazz (Though he was AWESOME!)
and some people say Ironhide, but, well.... He's Ironhide!

Starscream GaGa wrote:The Blue Mercedes is Wheeljack
The Ferrari is Mirage
The Silver Mercedes is Soundwave
Sentinel Prime is the main villain, not Shockwave
Silverbolt is not in the movie

The ONLY crap they've pulled that might of actually done is the Twins being removed, but I highly doubt it. I'm sure they will be in the movie.

Seriously, its too late to pull the misinformation crap. Nelson also talks like a total prick.

OK since I wasn't the first to post this I'm not going to feel the slightest bit bad confirming this. The above listing, according to the novel, is accurate and yes the Twins will be in it and, as much as I HATE those two A**-hats, it will be worth it to tolerate them for the short time they are in it. Trust me, you will love what goes down with the twins if, in fact, they stay true to the screen-play. Thunderous applause will erupt and folks will stand and cheer and that's all I'm gonna say about it.

So yeah, Nelson is feeding us a load of crap at every turn but this nothing of a surprise to anybody. If you are going to follow the posts on that site, bring a shovel.

T-Macksimus wrote:

Starscream GaGa wrote:The Blue Mercedes is Wheeljack
The Ferrari is Mirage
The Silver Mercedes is Soundwave
Sentinel Prime is the main villain, not Shockwave
Silverbolt is not in the movie

The ONLY crap they've pulled that might of actually done is the Twins being removed, but I highly doubt it. I'm sure they will be in the movie.

Seriously, its too late to pull the misinformation crap. Nelson also talks like a total prick.

OK since I wasn't the first to post this I'm not going to feel the slightest bit bad confirming this. The above listing, according to the novel, is accurate and yes the Twins will be in it and, as much as I HATE those two A**-hats, it will be worth it to tolerate them for the short time they are in it. Trust me, you will love what goes down with the twins if, in fact, they stay true to the screen-play. Thunderous applause will erupt and folks will stand and cheer and that's all I'm gonna say about it.

So yeah, Nelson is feeding us a load of crap at every turn but this nothing of a surprise to anybody. If you are going to follow the posts on that site, bring a shovel.

The thing about how the Twins may not actually be in it is because Paramount also stated they were removed from the movie, rather then just not in it. Its possible that they had to change the scene in which the Twins are in it because they were told that they were unsuitable for the movie. While I personally think they'll still be there, the fact that it wasn't just Bay and his d-bag Nelson that said it, its still up in the air wether or not they'll make an appearance.

The rest however, is all true and Nelson knows it. He's just trying to keep the water stirred until the movie is released.

In the age of internet, most big movie morons enjoy using these smoke and mirrors to give people reasons to watch. Some odd facts,

I haven't seen a single TV ad for this flick. But I did see some propaganda at my local mega-plex.

Most of the trailers are going to youtube first, and then out to the rest of the world.

and my opinions:
Does it actually matter what some brown-nosed intern has to say about the contents or characters of a movie. The writers had that all figured out before this idiot "nelson" was drafted from the IHOP school of Cinematography, or where ever they sell such credentials for less than community college tuition.

I liked Jetfire's Alan Moore voice. It made no sense and way a bit stupid, but, well, okay, I didn't like it that much, but it's better than Bumblebee's stupid voice gimmick.

Starscream GaGa wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:

Starscream GaGa wrote:The Blue Mercedes is Wheeljack
The Ferrari is Mirage
The Silver Mercedes is Soundwave
Sentinel Prime is the main villain, not Shockwave
Silverbolt is not in the movie

The ONLY crap they've pulled that might of actually done is the Twins being removed, but I highly doubt it. I'm sure they will be in the movie.

Seriously, its too late to pull the misinformation crap. Nelson also talks like a total prick.

OK since I wasn't the first to post this I'm not going to feel the slightest bit bad confirming this. The above listing, according to the novel, is accurate and yes the Twins will be in it and, as much as I HATE those two A**-hats, it will be worth it to tolerate them for the short time they are in it. Trust me, you will love what goes down with the twins if, in fact, they stay true to the screen-play. Thunderous applause will erupt and folks will stand and cheer and that's all I'm gonna say about it.

So yeah, Nelson is feeding us a load of crap at every turn but this nothing of a surprise to anybody. If you are going to follow the posts on that site, bring a shovel.

The thing about how the Twins may not actually be in it is because Paramount also stated they were removed from the movie, rather then just not in it. Its possible that they had to change the scene in which the Twins are in it because they were told that they were unsuitable for the movie. While I personally think they'll still be there, the fact that it wasn't just Bay and his d-bag Nelson that said it, its still up in the air wether or not they'll make an appearance.

The rest however, is all true and Nelson knows it. He's just trying to keep the water stirred until the movie is released.

Unless you've seen the movie, then no, its nessasarly true. By your own admittance, its possible that even though the twins were in the novelazation, they still could be removed from the final film. Why can't this be true for other aspects of the novel?

And again, even if Nelson kis stiring the pot to make hype for the movie, so what? The more hype, the more people want to go see it. AKA, more money. Sorry, but thats just how things work.

5150 Cruiser wrote:
Unless you've seen the movie, then no, its nessasarly true. By your own admittance, its possible that even though the twins were in the novelazation, they still could be removed from the final film. Why can't this be true for other aspects of the novel?

And again, even if Nelson kis stiring the pot to make hype for the movie, so what? The more hype, the more people want to go see it. AKA, more money. Sorry, but thats just how things work.

the more the creators of a product lie about the content of their product, the more likely I am to illegally download it out of morbid curiosity at how bad something can be that you don't have the balls to admit what's there, or just let the work speak for itself.

craggy wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:
Unless you've seen the movie, then no, its nessasarly true. By your own admittance, its possible that even though the twins were in the novelazation, they still could be removed from the final film. Why can't this be true for other aspects of the novel?

And again, even if Nelson kis stiring the pot to make hype for the movie, so what? The more hype, the more people want to go see it. AKA, more money. Sorry, but thats just how things work.

the more the creators of a product lie about the content of their product, the more likely I am to illegally download it out of morbid curiosity at how bad something can be that you don't have the balls to admit what's there, or just let the work speak for itself.

Thats a piss poor excuse for illeagaly downloading content. Just go to the theathers like most people and find out for yourself. And if your going to start ppinting fingers, then you need to point them at the fan base your invloved in. If people would just let things be, wait till June 29th to see the real movie, not go by a novelazation or a kids coloring book, then they will not only get there answers, but can also be surprised at the same time. But no.. people go by something that has been proven time and time again not to represent the final product in every detail, and get mad when the people that have spent over a year creating something try and keep some of the secrets just that... Secrets!

Whether this guy is correct or not, technically not all of the transformers in the movie were not referred by their Hasbro names.

Scavenger in ROTF was never referred to as Scavenger by the crew. Bay and the crew just address him as "wheel-bot".

Looks like nelson the site admin of Michael Bay's Shoot for the Edit forums is being especially generous today. After just revealing that the red Ferarri 458 Italia will be Dino, he has now dropped the name of the blue Mercedes E550. Drum roll please.........................

Que. Pronounced "Q."

He also provided a link to the Wikipedia entry for "Q" from the James Bond franchise in his post.

Click here to view his original post on Shoot for the Edit.

que?

His name is in homage to Que from James Bond.

Note: Que means 'what' in portuguese. LOL

This whole name confusion is so retarded I don't believe any of this crap. For example the thing that was said about soundwave not being the silver mercedes because the mercedes company wouldn't like having their car as a decepticon thats crap it is soundwave. And why in the world would they just make up some random transformers characters and names for the move when there is a whole universe to go off of?

I'm think I'm gonna go find this "Nelson" guy and pummel him. This misdirection campaign is annoying.

I'm not sure if I believe this or not. I think an Aston Martin would be more appropriate for a character called "Q," though...

as in Star Trek or James Bond?

I'll believe it when I see it or hear it in the film.

man i swear i heard that name back when we first saw the einstein looking bots head on a stick.

You did, they used that name during production.

Once again, it's of no consequence to me, since there was no resemblance to Wheeljack to begin with.

Mista Fawlty, Mista Fawlty!

Both of those names suck ass, but maybe that wheeljack nickname, and dino meh
if nelson says that not megatron I going freaking kill him.

kinda odd since wheeljack is in the game. i know it probably has nothing to do with the movie just sayin. and yes, id rather have wheeljack too.

*sigh* Damn it I just found out that

Bay didn't pick the name, Ferrari did, it couldn't be a name attached to Hasbro's Transformers brand, blah blah, yadda yadda.

rich prime wrote:*sigh* Damn it I just found out that

Bay didn't pick the name, Ferrari did, it couldn't be a name attached to Hasbro's Transformers brand, blah blah, yadda yadda.

Then IMO, they never should have used the ferrari in the place. Its not like there isn't a slew of sports/exotic cars to choose from. Heck, Put a ZR1 Corvette in its place. I understand that product placment like this pays the bills, but when they dictate the role and more importantly the name, thats crap. Homage doesn't need to given to Ferrari in this case. This is not a Ferrari movie. This is probabaly going to be the worst name in TF history.

The worst name in TF history? "Erector" "Flare-up" and more would like to have a word with you outside, 5150.

craggy wrote:The worst name in TF history? "Erector" "Flare-up" and more would like to have a word with you outside, 5150.

This

But at least Dino is better then that dreadbox crap 10 millions times better.

wouldn't anyone agree?

i won't belive anything until i see the film for myself. we are all quite aware of Bay and his games since the production stages of the first film.

Who the hell taught Nelson to spell? Last time I checked there was no Q in Wheeljack!

W-H-E-E-L-J-A-C-K...nope. Hmmm, let's try the other Mercedes character. S-O-U-N-D-W-A-V-E...nope, there's no Q in that name either. Go back to school, dumbass!!